Linux-Setup Digest #472, Volume #19              Fri, 25 Aug 00 08:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Re: upgrading video card (E J)
  Turbolinux Install on Thinkpad 240X? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Redhat setup help! (Eric)
  Re: Debian Potato 1.2 root floppy problem (Colin Watson)
  Re: default font not found (Eric)
  Re: disk druid and red hat 6.2 (Eric)
  Re: How do I set the physical geometry? (Villy Kruse)
  key configuration & bash/readline ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Oh where oh where can my modem be? (Zahid A. Ali)
  Re: Oh where oh where can my modem be? (Repo)
  How do I uninstall linux? ("Lars Olsson")
  Re: RedHat 6.0 on a HP LC2000 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Belgian keyboard layout in Suse 6.4 (The Contact)
  Re: mirroring an hd (The Contact)
  Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows ("Joseph T. Adams")
  Re: How do I uninstall linux? (The Contact)

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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: upgrading video card
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 23:19:05 -0700

See the following website:
http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/3Dfx-HOWTO.html

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I have Redhat 5.2 installed on my system, and want to upgrade the video
> card to a Voodoo3 2000 PCI.  I read here that Redhat only started
> supporting the V3 cards with version 6.1.
>
> Would the easiest thing be to buy a copy of Redhat 6.2 and run the
> installation upgrade after installing the Voodoo 3 card?  I'm just
> interested in the 2D aspects of the Voodoo 3 for linux.
>
> --
> <remove 7of9 for e-mail replies>
>
> Bill Jones  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Turbolinux Install on Thinkpad 240X?
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 06:40:56 GMT

Hello,

I'm trying to install Turbolinux 6.0 on a Thinkpad 240X and am running
into problems because (a) the Thinkpad doesn't allow bootstrapping
directly from the CD-ROM, and (b) the Turbolinux boot diskettes don't
recognize the IBM CD-ROM drive in the Portable Drive Bay (it connects via
a PCMCIA IDE card). I imagine this problem is common to most versions of
Linux when trying to install on the Thinkpad. At this point my only
choice seems to be to set up an FTP server on another machine and try to
access the installation CD that way. Do people have other suggestions?

Thanks!

K


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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redhat setup help!
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 08:51:35 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Peepsta wrote:
> 
> I've tried desperately to get Redhat linux operating
> on my Athlon 650 system.  Everytime I get the same
> problem.  After setup and installing Linux gnome, I
> can't login.  I enter the correct password at login but
> it just says invalid Password.  I've installed it 3 times
> already and get the same problem.
> Can anyone give me some pointers in what I'm doing wrong?
> BTW, It's RedHat 6.2
> 
> Peepsta

You cannot login at all ?
Or just not in a graphical login (runlevel 5)
hit <ctrl><alt><F2> and try to log in there.
Tried logging in as root? As a normal user?
These are just a few things to try.
No need to reinstall linux just because xdm/gdm is acting up.

Eric

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: Debian Potato 1.2 root floppy problem
Date: 24 Aug 2000 19:28:05 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>System: AMD k5PR133, Tyan S1563S mbd with Intel HX chipset
>Symptoms: Debian Potato i386 rescue idepci 1.2M disk boots correctly,
>          but the corresponding root 1.2M disk is not recognized:
>          "Couldn't find valid RAM disk image starting at 0."
>Other checks: The images are what Debian distribted, because they have
>              the md5sums that Debian says they should have, as measured
>              on the actual rescue and root floppies used, both before
>              and after the failed mount of the root disk.
>              The 1.2M drive is ok, because it was used when the md5sums 
>              of the floppies were calculated.
>Comments: Is this an officially recognized problem?

I suggest you look through the archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(see http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/) and ask there if you don't
find anything. It's possible, if unfortunate, that none of the people
testing potato happened to be booting from a 1.2Mb drive.

>Where would any revised floppy images be found?

  ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/

... and mirrors, but as far as I know there haven't been any revisions
for the i386 architecture. (There have for Alpha and SPARC, due to
problems with bootable CDs.)

>Is the code of dbootstrap available separately?

I believe it's in the boot-floppies package, which you'll find in:

  ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/source/admin/
        boot-floppies_2.2.16.tar.gz

(recombine onto one line). Rather than compiling dbootstrap on its own,
you might be best to try to build boot-floppies yourself and get the
1.2Mb images from there. Of course, better would be to get debian-boot
to do it for you. :)

>I'm presuming that when Debian asks for the root disk, it means that
>the rescue disk is to be removed, and the root disk inserted in the
>drive which previously held the rescue disk.  This is not stated
>explicitly.

Yes, this is normally the case, though I'm far from a boot-floppies
expert.

>If there is an option to load the root image from another drive, I
>haven't found it.  

Have you checked the text accessible via the various function keys from
the rescue disk's main menu? I *thought* there was such an option there,
but I can't remember for certain.

-- 
Colin Watson                                     [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"Oh Danny Boy, the pipes, the pipes are calling,
 From glen to glen, and down the mountainside ..."

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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: default font not found
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 09:04:45 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I had this same problem, default font fixed not found.
You need to make sure that the first listing in the fontpaths is the
directory containing the fonts.alias file in which the fixed font is
set.
That directory on my system is:
  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc

but be sure to check the fonts.alias file there, the first alias must be
the fixed font.


Eric

ascii_superstar wrote:
> 
> dDi I have to copy everything that is in that ocnfig file, or just the font
> paths. I ask this as I have copied the main fontpaths accross but X font
> server still fails to shutdown but fonts that were messed up are now
> working.
> 
> thanks
> 
> "Hal Burgiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 20:18:10 -0400, Mike Brickey
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >Hi
> > > I don't know the cause of this problem but there is a workaround.
> > > Edit
> > >your XF86Config-4 file by commenting out(put a '#' in front of the
> > >line) the line Fontpath  "unix/:-1" then add you fonts in like:Fontpath
> > >"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi" you can add all the fonts you have.
> > >Then restart X. Same thing happened to me when I upgraded to 4.0.1 from
> > >3.3.6
> >
> > It's not a bug. You have your systems setup to use xfs font server from
> > a different version of X. What you are doing is not just a workaround,
> > but the right approach. Move all fontpaths from /etc/X11/fs/config. Or
> > at least try them one at a time. That is where the xfs fontpath is (or
> > was). Turn off xfs while you are at it.
> >
> > --
> > Hal B
> >  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > --

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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: disk druid and red hat 6.2
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 09:10:34 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> i know this group is more 4 those choosing a
> platform but i am taking a chance someone may
> beable to give me the help i so desprately need
> or can direct me to where i can find the info i
> need.
> I have downloaded and began installation of red
> hat 6.2 - i used fdisk format a pc HD (19 gig)
> once you partition the drive into linux native
> parts (root, swap, var, ect.) red hat install
> drops you into druid to finish up formating the
> partitions - the problem arises here i have no OK
> button.  Only buttons i have are: add, edit,
> delete, reset, and a back button on the lower
> right of screen.  i have specified mount points
> and everything but i can not get to the next
> step.  Am i missing something, is there a way to
> format and mount partitions through linux
> fdisk??  any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Damon
> 
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Someone else answered this in another thread, I think.
(At least it looks like the same problem to me)
You have probably not made a / directory (the root directory).
This is not the same a /root , which is the "home-directory"
of the root user.
The naming is bit confusing, so a /root directory is not the
root directory, the root directory is /

Don't you just love this naming stuff :-)

Eric

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: How do I set the physical geometry?
Date: 25 Aug 2000 07:53:01 GMT

On 24 Aug 2000 12:04:17 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Norman Levin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> > Modern hard disks do not have anything like a physical geometry in the
>> > old-style sense of the term.  
>
>> ** until disk go solid state or bubble memory, they certainly have
>> a physical geometry.
>
>He never said they didn't have a physical geometry; just that it's
>nothing so simple as "cylinders, heads, and sectors per track."
>

Just consider that disks nowadays have more sectors per track on the
outer tracks than on the inner tracks.  The outer tracks are longer
and therefore there are room for more bits.  That is also how you
can try to multiply the CHS values and won't get a value different
from the total disk size.

The appearent geometry of ide disks is largely dictated by the number
of bits allocated to each of cyls, heads, and sectors.  Read the
HOWTO/mini/Large-Disk for the gory details.

-- 
Villy

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: key configuration & bash/readline
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 07:48:31 GMT

I'm running RedHat 6.2, and I'm having trouble setting up
bash command-line editing as I'd like it.

I'd like to use Ctrl-leftarrow and Ctrl-rightarrow to move
the cursor to the next/previous word respectively.

However the Ctrl-arrow keys seem to give the same codes as
the arrow keys, e.g. leftarrow = ^[[D  ctrl-leftarrow = ^[[D.
(except for some reason under konsole, where leftarrow = ^[OD ???)

Is there any way to differentiate between the ctrl and
unmodified arrow keys?

TIA
--
Dave.


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From: Zahid A. Ali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Oh where oh where can my modem be?
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 08:27:00 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

First of all, apologies in advance for asking a question which has been
touched on here recently. I'm running TurboLinux 6.0 on a junky little
clone which came with a modem on the motherboard. Of course, the
documentation doesn't tell me ANYTHING about how to configure the
hardware.

Anyhow, kppp can't find my modem. On ttyS0 I get "Modem does not
respond", while on ttyS1-3 I get "Modem is busy".

Question 1: Before I wiped out Win98 and replaced it with Linux, the
modem worked. So my modem may be a WinModem. How can I find that out
for sure?

Question 2: Assuming my modem is not a WinModem, is there any way to
ascertain what COM port it is actually using? Since I have an actual
serial port, I assume that is ttyS0, which explains why I get a
different message there. That still gives me three to choose from.

Question 3: Once I figure out which port (ttyS1-3) the modem is using,
how can I get past the "Modem is busy" problem?

Thank you VERY much for your help. They have made just about every
aspect of Linux installation easier for us part-timers, but modem
configuration is a bear!
--
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From: Repo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Oh where oh where can my modem be?
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 08:53:47 +0000

"Zahid A. Ali" wrote:

> First of all, apologies in advance for asking a question which has been
> touched on here recently. I'm running TurboLinux 6.0 on a junky little
> clone which came with a modem on the motherboard. Of course, the
> documentation doesn't tell me ANYTHING about how to configure the
> hardware.
>
> Anyhow, kppp can't find my modem. On ttyS0 I get "Modem does not
> respond", while on ttyS1-3 I get "Modem is busy".
>
> Question 1: Before I wiped out Win98 and replaced it with Linux, the
> modem worked. So my modem may be a WinModem. How can I find that out
> for sure?
>
> Question 2: Assuming my modem is not a WinModem, is there any way to
> ascertain what COM port it is actually using? Since I have an actual
> serial port, I assume that is ttyS0, which explains why I get a
> different message there. That still gives me three to choose from.
>
> Question 3: Once I figure out which port (ttyS1-3) the modem is using,
> how can I get past the "Modem is busy" problem?
>
> Thank you VERY much for your help. They have made just about every
> aspect of Linux installation easier for us part-timers, but modem
> configuration is a bear!
> --
> Zahid
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Please doctor the e-mail address before replying.
>
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Zahid
Take a lookat:
http://www.idir.net/~gromitkc/19991212a.html

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From: "Lars Olsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How do I uninstall linux?
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 11:06:20 +0200

Hello!

I'm currently running a system with both win98 and redhat linux installed on
different physical harddisk drives. Now i need to uninstall my linux system
and make the linux drive available to windows again. How do I accomplish
this without wrecking my win98 system? Now LILO starts my system, but how
can I replace it with win98 default OS Loader? And how can I reformat my
linux drive back to fat32? Right now fdisk doesn't even detect the linux
drive.

All help is appreciated

/Lasso

PS. Don't worry. I'm not abandoning linux forever, just temporarily (lack of
disk space). DS.

________________________________________
Lars 'Lasso' Olsson
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 25921349



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RedHat 6.0 on a HP LC2000
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 10:16:47 GMT

Hi,

I have same problem as you, Are you have solution ?.
Please tell me about your solution.

Thanks in advance,
Pichet R.


In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=E9bastien?= Cottalorda
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've just bought a HP Netserver LC2000 on which I plan to install
RedHat
> 6.0
> The Problem is that during the installation, the install program did
not
> see neither my SCSI Adapter ncr53c8xx nor the AMI MegaRaid Adapter
> I can install anything.
> I've tried with the RedHat6.1, but no way too.
>
> May be it's a hardware problem because I've manage to set up a HP LH3
> with those two cards (ncr53c8xx and AMI Megaraid) without any problem.
>
> Do you know if this server as incompatibilities with Linux ??
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> S�bastien
>
>


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From: The Contact <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Belgian keyboard layout in Suse 6.4
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 11:06:30 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> It seems that the belgian keyboard layout is not
> really belgian : I had the same problem.
> However I found the correct layout.
> In Yast, I chose azerty/azerty, which seems to
> work properly.
> To verify that you have the same layout as I have,
> you can logon as root, and type the following:
> # cd /etc/rc.d
> # ./kbd status
> Keymap
> /usr/lib/kbd/keymaps/i386/azerty/azerty.map.gz is
> loaded.
> 
> This keyboard layout however is not used in X. To
> configure this, start SaX and select as keyboard
> layout:
> Generic 104-key PC
> Belgian
> 
> The only character that is still wrong, is the �
> (trema, Umlaut) : it is not configured as a dead
> character.

There is a Belgian-HOWTO which adresses all this problems (I'm using
be2-latin1 with � enabled, just like �, �, �, �, � etc...)

URL: http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Belgian-HOWTO.html

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From: The Contact <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: mirroring an hd
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 11:17:25 GMT

hac wrote:
> Boot from a rescue floppy/CD.
> Create partitions on the new disk with cfdisk.
> Mkfs those partitions.
> Mount the old and new partitions.  All at once, or as pairs.
> "find /mnt/old1 | cpio -dmpv /mnt/new1"
> Lather, rinse, repeat.
> 
> You can use the "a" flag if you want to preserve the access time field
> for the files; I haven't found a reason to care.  The "d" flag creates
> directories as needed.  The "m" flag preserves the modification time.
> The "p" flag is the key; the "pass-through" or "copy/pass" mode.  The
> "v" (verbose) flag lets you see what's happening.
> 
> The "--sparse" flag will preserve sparse files, which you might have
> if you run certain applications.  If you don't know about sparse
> files, you probably don't need to.
> 
> I sometimes pipe find through sort and then on to cpio, but I'm weird.
> 
> I fail to see why another program is needed.  Linux is not Windows; it
> doesn't break if files end up in different blocks.  Image copies
> preserve fragmentation, and have problems with bad blocks.  Why is
> this desirable?  Copying filesystems as filesystems works much better,
> whether you use tar, cpio, or dump & restore.  You can change
> partition sizes, and tune filesystem parameters like block size.

Aren't there problems concerning the System.map-file? If cpio just
copies everything to a non-identical-partitioned,
non-identically-geometried HD, then the kernel itself will complain,
doesn't it? And rerunning lilo wouldn't help, because you just can't get
to running lilo...

> There are broken tar, cpio, and dump programs out there.  GNU tar and
> cpio have worked for me.

Thx, if cpio does the job, you'll've saved me a lot of think-time :�)

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From: "Joseph T. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Date: 25 Aug 2000 11:19:13 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

: Joseph T. Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
: news:8o4ina$daf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

:> In comp.os.linux.advocacy mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> : This who XML hysteria worries me. We have people thinking that it is
:> : something other than a very inefficient text based file format. Example:

: As a a data storage format XML is no better than any other file format and
: it does not prevent creating none portable private data format.

: Remember this example:

:  <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1" ?>
:  <!DOCTYPE RESULTSET SYSTEM "http://fubar.com/fubar.dtd">
:  <RESULTSET>
:    <RESULT ID="0" >
:      <MATCHES>0</MATCHES>
:      <TIME>0.1605</TIME>
:      <RATINGS>0</RATINGS>
:      <MAXSCORE>2510</MAXSCORE>
:      <SCORE>6947</SCORE>
:      <SIZE>6536</SIZE>
:      <LANGUAGE>_LANG1_</LANGUAGE>
:      <DATE>957148708</DATE>
:      <FORMAT>0</FORMAT>
:      <MODDATE>0</MODDATE>
:    </RESULT>
:  </RESULTSET>


: How portable would this version of it be?

:  <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1" ?>
:  <!DOCTYPE RST "http://localhost/fubar.dtd>
:  <RST>
:    <R ID="0" >
:      <F0>A</F0>
:      <F1>q20e3</F1>
:      <F2>e</F2>
:      <F3>lsm2</F3>
:      <F4>928l</F4>
:      <F5>pqke</F5>
:      <F6>2ksnfui</F6>
:      <F7>mpqw395hg</F6>
:      <F7>2</F7>
:      <F8>5</F8>
:    </R>
:  </RST>

Equally, if it is valid (i.e., has a DTD, and conforms to it).

But it does tremendously violate the *spirit* of XML.  XML is supposed
to be human-readable.

And you do get portability advantages even if you don't fully
understand the data.  The structure and data are represented together. 
If you can reverse-engineer (determine the meaning of) all the tags
except F2 and F6, then you can make confident use of these, even if in
the next version of the format, they add a couple more fields (element
types) and take away one or two of the ones you do understand. 

In a binary format, you'd always be at risk of problems due to
variable field length.  That can't happen with XML.


Joe

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From: The Contact <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I uninstall linux?
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 11:24:33 GMT

Lars Olsson wrote:
> 
> Hello!
> 
> I'm currently running a system with both win98 and redhat linux installed on
> different physical harddisk drives. Now i need to uninstall my linux system
> and make the linux drive available to windows again. How do I accomplish
> this without wrecking my win98 system? Now LILO starts my system, but how
> can I replace it with win98 default OS Loader? And how can I reformat my
> linux drive back to fat32? Right now fdisk doesn't even detect the linux
> drive.
> 
> All help is appreciated

First of all, fdisk (under linux, best of all with a rescue-disk) and
set all your linux-partitions from 'Ext2' of 'Linux Native' to 'FAT32'.
This will make fdisk (of windows) find the partitions (but you'll have
to remake/format them in order that windows will be able to use them).
Then, rebooting under windows (if LILO hangs, use a rescue-disk for
windows) run 'fdisk \mbr', which will fix the MBR to the normal Win98
bootloader.

Don't forget, you possibly need rescue-disks for Linux and Windows (and
don't forget to back-up the windows-directory, because some versions
crash when the partition-table is altered).

> PS. Don't worry. I'm not abandoning linux forever, just temporarily (lack of
> disk space). DS.

Pfffff... I was holding my breath when I read your title, but now I'm
relaxed (again) :�)

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