Linux-Setup Digest #477, Volume #19 Sat, 26 Aug 00 00:13:09 EDT
Contents:
SuSE 7.0 huge success ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Re: Linux - dual boot (Keith Lockwood)
Upgrdeing to XFree86 4.0 (Keith Lockwood)
Re: hd partionning ("Andrew E. Schulman")
Re: FYI: Applix vs. StarOffice vs. WP8 for Linux.... (Dennis Lee Bieber)
Help for newbie stuck with linux boot floppy ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
FreeBSD: APM & Power Switch ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: how to create GUID in Linux (Erik Warmelink)
Re: Mounting CDROMs (MaryP)
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows (Bob Hauck)
Re: Partition Size Advice (John Beardmore)
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows (Christopher Browne)
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows (Christopher Browne)
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows (Christopher Browne)
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows (Christopher Browne)
Re: SendMail "catch-all" alias? ("Kim Knoblauch")
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SuSE 7.0 huge success
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 23:09:03 GMT
the new version 7.0 of the SuSE distribution was sold out within 24
hours (80.000 packages). they will now produce more packages which
should be available from September 1. ...
(i ordered mine a few days ago but still didn't receive it)
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
------------------------------
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 15:49:55 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Joseph T. Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8o6lm6$f4j$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> : <MSWORDDATA>
> : sdlkfjsda;lfkjsda f;lsdkf 2340985r32j23lkr2j r23o978xdf0sdjalfkwj 32
> : </MSWORDDATA>
>
> : (where that contains some encoded table)
>
>
> That will parse just fine.
>
> It won't be very useful to anyone but M$. But XML never promised to
> make all data useful.
If the data cannot be interpreted, then what is the use of parsing it? If a
propertary data file were converted to text as a Radix-64 or uuencoded data
stream and is framed by valid tags it is still no more useful that what we
have today. If in fact it would be less useful, processing it would be
slower and it would consume more storage and other resources than otherwise
needed.
------------------------------
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 16:03:09 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
> > Consider
> > that the data in the fields are not just encoded but also ecrypted as my
> > example was offered to illustrate.
>
> I still have cryptographie on the roadmap of my XML::Edifact module.
>
>
#---------------------------------------------------------------------------
---#
> Alf O. Watt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> proposed a simple solution using
> namespaces and processing instructions to the perlxml mailing list in
> December 1998. The beauty of this aproach is that the secure document
> is still well-formed and valid, and of the same document type. It
could
> even be translated back to UN/EDIFACT to obtain a message with
encrypted
> segments.
>
#---------------------------------------------------------------------------
---#
>
> I think that cryptographie on document level is extremly important,
> as the documents may contain confidental data.
>
> > Did you notice the address of the URL in the DOCTYPE line?
> >> : <!DOCTYPE RST "http://localhost/fubar.dtd>
>
> what about <!DOCTYPE RST "http://www.webcam.de/fubar.dtd> this would not
> only mean the same (www.webcam.de is 127.0.0.1 ;-) but offers the
possibility
> to change in future versions.
Of what value is a universal file format is the data can not be intreperted
bay any than the programs that created them? The encryption that I was
referring to was not to protect the user's data or other assets, it was
encryption to keep the actual file format propertary and both be able to
claim they are using XML and to circumvent its potiential benefits at the
same time.
Remember UniForm? It was one of the prior attempts to create a universal
file format. How many files do you have that are still in that format? I
have not seen any for more than a decade. That was only one of that many
take became very popular for a short time until reality reared it head.
Perhaps I am jaded by experience, but everything that is being stated as a
benefit of XML has been said in the part in realation to all the prior
formats as well. For me this is nothing new, but what astounds me is they
way so many seem to fail to remember the past and think they are developing
such a great thing that has never been done before.
------------------------------
From: Keith Lockwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux - dual boot
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 10:00:53 +1000
Thanks for that it worked butifuly.
Keith
The Contact wrote:
> If LILO and Partition Magic both support the +1024-cilinder boot-up,
> Linux will work just fine at a higher level of cilinders. IIRC, LILO
> with RedHat 6.2 is capable of doing that. I don't know about PM.
>
>
> Normally the partitions are already set. Do a 'fdisk -l' as root, and
> you'll see how the partitions are set.
>
> Do you have problems booting-up Linux? Or Windows?
>
> --
> The Contact
> "Knowledge should be free; appliance not."
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
------------------------------
From: Keith Lockwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Upgrdeing to XFree86 4.0
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 10:03:47 +1000
Hi,
Does any one know where I can find the RPMs to upgrade from XFree86
3.3.x to XFree86 4.0 if so can you hgive me the address.
Keith
------------------------------
From: "Andrew E. Schulman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: hd partionning
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 20:05:10 -0400
> I use to partition my disk that way:
> /
> /boot
> /swap
> /usr/local
>
> I have a 26g disk and would like to do something more like:
>
> /
> /boot
> /swap
> /var
> /tmp
> /usr
> /usr/local
> /home
>
> but I have no idea of what size should i give to each one. Actually I do
> know for :
> /boot = about 20m -50m and
> /swap = about 2* RAM
Well, since you have a working system, why not just add up how much space
each of those directories is using now?
------------------------------
From: Dennis Lee Bieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: FYI: Applix vs. StarOffice vs. WP8 for Linux....
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 18:23:15 -0700
On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 09:51:08 -0500, Nels Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
declaimed the following in alt.os.linux.mandrake:
> I'd recommend tht you try Star Office 5.2. I've used 5.1 and been
> disappointed, but 5.2 seems to be quite a bit better. It imports
The version included with Mandrake 7.1 has yet to print for me
-- I keep getting a PostScript error trap instead (through GhostScript,
to an Epson SC800).
>
> Normally I don't use the word-processors at all. I use emacs for
> entering text and programming, and Latex when I need pretty output.
Mandrake 7.1 installed Lyx (and KLyx, though the latter seems to
be one version behind Lyx?). I spent the weekend printing the help files
(aka, manuals) for Lyx. (K)Lyx looks to be a reasonable tool for routine
Latex usage -- not WYSIWYG, but not at the level of having to code the
Latex commands themselves.
--
> ============================================================== <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber KD6MOG <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Bestiaria Support Staff <
> ============================================================== <
> Bestiaria Home Page: http://www.beastie.dm.net/ <
> Home Page: http://www.dm.net/~wulfraed/ <
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux
Subject: Help for newbie stuck with linux boot floppy
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 10:17:14 +0800
Hi, any help appreciated.......
I'm currently using Gentus Linux GPL v3.0 with a dual Celeron ABIT BP-6
motherboard. I am using a boot floppy to boot into the system. My
regular LILO gets stuck at LI....and died. I'm using ATA66 harddisks
(and they are detected properly once we pass the initial boot sequence),
and i believe the kernel is already specially compiled in the CD to run
with ATA66.
Am I missing something? There is also a problem when i use upgrade
option in the Gentus CD to upgrade to a higher version Linux(such as
from Gentus v1.0 to Gentus v3.0). It always get stuck, i suspect the
installer was unable to properly read the harddisk geometry.....and i
have to install as fresh. :-(
Thank you for any help.
Regards
Damon
P.S. - Gentus distro is very similar to RedHat distro(actually i
believe it's exactly alike except with kernel compiled to handle UDMA
and some other special drivers).
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: FreeBSD: APM & Power Switch
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 02:02:23 GMT
I've been told that this can be done and that it should work:
I want to press the power switch while the machine is up and running
(FreeBSD 4.x) and have it do a shutdown -p now or something of the sort.
I've never seen it work myself. With APM enabled (BIOS, kernel and
apm_enable = "yes"), pressing the power switch causes the machine to
power off immediately...
Help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
-Ralph
rpseguin AT yahoo DOT com
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Erik Warmelink)
Crossposted-To: news.groups
Subject: Re: how to create GUID in Linux
Date: 26 Aug 2000 02:05:05 GMT
[Followup-To: comp.os.linux.setup]
In article <8o091i$24u$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> WinAPI has the methods to create GUIDs and save them to the
> registry , how to create GUIDs in the linux and where to save them?
man 5 group
--
De EEG dreigt patenten op software toe te staan:
http://petition.eurolinux.org/
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MaryP)
Subject: Re: Mounting CDROMs
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 21:20:26 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andrew Overholt
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I now have things working - I really appreciate your help. . . .the
problems were (in no particular order):
[snipped]
> 3. I was trying to mount an audio CD (BTW, can you do this?)
Sure you can, you'll just have to configure your sound card and set up
xplaycd or some other prog that will do the job. It was covered very
recently on this list, try a deja search.
MP
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 02:43:44 GMT
On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 22:40:10 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip miracle-working]
>Let�s try to discuss what it is going to take to make the above
>happen.
Oh, you'll be having a talk about witchcraft then?
[snip a few hundred lines of handwaving]
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
------------------------------
From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Partition Size Advice
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 23:26:15 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, hac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes
>John Beardmore wrote:
>>
>> So is this analogous to cluster size / directory entry issues in FAT
>> file systems ?
>>
>
>Unlike FAT, it has nothing to do with partition size limits.
>
>It's more of a performance issue. A larger block size, particularly
>one related to the processor's 'natural' block size, can give you
>faster reads and writes.
OK, but what's a natural block size ?
>The percentage of space reserved for root can be adjusted from the
>default 5%. After an ordinary user fills the disk, root still has
>some space to work with to clean up. The side-effect, and an
>important one, is that fragmentation goes up markedly as the disk
>approaches full. The reserved space helps keep the fragmentation
>down.
Are there any defragmentation tools for Linux ?
Cheers, J/.
--
John Beardmore
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 03:35:56 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when paul snow would say:
>Here is a few observations:
>
>Linux on the desktop (and as a server) requires it to beat Windows XXX hands
>down for ease of configuration, security, and management.
>
>Installing software is simply the act of constructing in storage a proper
>representation of the software. In other words, our talking about
>installing software on a computer is like a painter insisting she is
>installing a picture of a duck onto her painting. It doesn't matter how she
>does it, she is rendering the duck, not installing it.
>
>We need to get rid of install programs, on all platforms. There isn't
>another single thing we do on computers that causes more in dollars and time
>(Solitaire *is* a close second, however ;-).
>
>XML can be used to define a program in abstract. A single, separate
>Software Rendering Facility can be used to take a program's abstract form in
>XML and render it to the target computer system.
>
>XML can be used to capture the options required for this rendering.
>
>XML can be used to refer to a group of programs in abstract (XML), and their
>options (XML), in order to define a single definition that can be expressed
>in different ways on different computer systems to construct an operational,
>distributed application. (Unlike today, where we have to install every web
>server, every firewall, every Java JDK, every etc. all from scratch, with
>one mistake preventing any of it from working!)
>
>This discussion about how XML might be used along with Linux to create a new
>concept in Operating Systems is beginning. We have the technology and the
>know how. We just have to take our computer system, set it on its side and
>view it a bit differently. This technology is going to completely change
>the rules of software configuration, management, and security, and you can
>make it happen.
>
> http://www.egroups.com/group/xmlos/
> http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/xmlos/
>
>Paul Snow
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Go design your "XMLOS," and be happy.
If you feel that there is some value in using Linux as the kernel for
your "XMLOS," that's well and good.
Here are a few more observations:
- There is _NO_ requirement that Linux "beats" Windows XXX; if Linux
happens to be a _useful_ OS kernel, and if systems constructed on
that kernel happen to be _useful_, they will get used.
- I suggest that you not talk about "installing ducks;" if you
actually have a point to make about installation, it will be better
made by demonstrating the point, not by making vague analogies.
- You seem to have fallen into the trap of believing all the hype
about XML. Yes, XML can be used to "express anything," but the same
is just as true of ASCII as well as of S-expressions.
If you want to use data-driven programs, I suggest you consider
looking at Open Genera, which is just such a system. If the fact
that it uses Lisp scares you, then that probably means that _real_
data driven programming is far too scary for you to be able to cope
with.
In any case, the discussion certainly belongs elsewhere than
*.linux.*.
--
(concatenate 'string "cbbrowne" "@" "acm.org")
<http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
The people's revolutionary committee has decided that the name "e" is
retrogressive, unmulticious and reactionary, and has been flushed.
Please update your abbrevs.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 03:36:25 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Matthias Warkus would say:
>It was the 24 Aug 2000 10:43:56 -0600...
>...and Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Take a look at MacOS X Bundles:
>[schnipp]
>> Linux is halfway there already with RPM and deb; but the ultimate goal
>> is to just get rid of them.
>
>Uh-oh, I feel another flamewar coming up on NeXTish .app encapsulation
>vs. the classic Unix way of spreading an application out over bin,
>lib, share etc...
I think that makes the mistaken assumption that people _understand_
the NeXT approach.
The flames are not likely to come as a result of people knowing about
.app and "classic Unix," and considering one or the other to be
superior.
The flames will mainly come as a result of people not understanding
_either_, and associating things with some "Star Wars-like" epic
battle between the Rebellion and the Empire...
--
(concatenate 'string "cbbrowne" "@" "hex.net")
<http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
Rules of the Evil Overlord #14. "The hero is not entitled to a last
kiss, a last cigarette, or any other form of last request."
<http://www.eviloverlord.com/>
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 03:37:11 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when [EMAIL PROTECTED] would say:
>
>Joseph T. Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:8o4ina$daf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> : This who XML hysteria worries me. We have people thinking that it is
>> : something other than a very inefficient text based file format. Example:
>
>As a a data storage format XML is no better than any other file format and
>it does not prevent creating none portable private data format.
>
>Remember this example:
>
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1" ?>
> <!DOCTYPE RESULTSET SYSTEM "http://fubar.com/fubar.dtd">
> <RESULTSET>
> <RESULT ID="0" >
> <MATCHES>0</MATCHES>
> <TIME>0.1605</TIME>
> <RATINGS>0</RATINGS>
> <MAXSCORE>2510</MAXSCORE>
> <SCORE>6947</SCORE>
> <SIZE>6536</SIZE>
> <LANGUAGE>_LANG1_</LANGUAGE>
> <DATE>957148708</DATE>
> <FORMAT>0</FORMAT>
> <MODDATE>0</MODDATE>
> </RESULT>
> </RESULTSET>
>
>
>How portable would this version of it be?
>
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1" ?>
> <!DOCTYPE RST "http://localhost/fubar.dtd>
> <RST>
> <R ID="0" >
> <F0>A</F0>
> <F1>q20e3</F1>
> <F2>e</F2>
> <F3>lsm2</F3>
> <F4>928l</F4>
> <F5>pqke</F5>
> <F6>2ksnfui</F6>
> <F7>mpqw395hg</F6>
> <F7>2</F7>
> <F8>5</F8>
> </R>
> </RST>
Indeed.
And those that think that using XML will magically eliminate all the
compatibility problems of the world seem to have missed that the world
already rejected a fairly much isomorphic data representation, namely
Lisp S-expressions:
(setf document
'(xml ((version . 1.0) (encoding . "iso-8859-1"))
(doctype ((resultset) (system "http://fubar.com/fubar.dtd"))
(resultset
(result '((id 0))
(matches 0)
(time 0.1605)
(ratings 0)
(maxscore 2510)
(score 6947)
(size 6536)
(language "LANG1")
(date 957148708)
(format 0)
(moddate 0))))))
--
(concatenate 'string "cbbrowne" "@" "ntlug.org")
<http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/sgml.html>
Well, I wish you'd just tell me rather than trying to engage my
enthusiasm, because I haven't got one.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 03:37:34 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when [EMAIL PROTECTED]
would say:
>A file system is nothing more than structured storage. I believe most
>will agree that XML can indeed be used to define structured storage. I
>guess someone could argue that a file system is not structured data, or
>that a file system is the one structured data form cannot be described
>by XML. Such arguments would be pretty stupid, however.
XML represents _one form_ of a particular _SERIALIZED_ form of
"structured storage."
As such, while it would be possible to describe all of a system using
an XML document, that would probably be rather useless, as you need
some substrate on which the XML is to be stored.
In effect, XML _can't_ be the "base;" there needs to be a serial
stream on which to place the XML-formatted material. You need
something below it.
It seems more useful to talk about that specific "thing that is
below."
>*** (12) Allows configuration fixes to be formally defined
>
>Configuration fixes are changes to storage. XML provides a means of
>providing a formal definition of such fixes. These are changes to the
>file system, registry, etc. This is storage, and as such it can be
>defined in abstract using the tags and references the developer's have
>defined in the XML definition of their software.
>
>I see no big problems to formally defining configuration fixes using
>XML.
Have you got a DTD to represent formal definitions? Perhaps based on
Z?
If you do not have a language for representing formal definitions,
then all you're saying is that "someone could use XML as a substrate
to represent a formal definition language." Which does nothing about
implementing such a thing.
>*** (13) Allows such fixes to be accessed over the web
>
>XML over the Web. Do we really have to argue this one?
No, there are no "objections" particularly relevant to transmission of
data over the web.
>*** (14) Allows such fixes to be applied automatically
>
>If the fix is delivered in XML, applied to the storage configuration as
>defined by the XML of the installed packages, the installation should
>be automatic. This is aided by the idea that the Software Rendering
>Facility maintains a meta model for the computer system through time.
But is it _appropriate_ to apply the change?
If a change affects the behaviour of a system, then it is not safe to
assume that this change in behaviour is _appropriate_, as there may be
local usage and configuration that depends on the old behaviour that
would _BREAK_ when "fixes" are pushed in automagically.
>*** (15) Allows setup options to be recorded and managed.
>
>The options one sets today as one installs are nothing more than
>decision points in determining how the application should be rendered
>into storage. The abstract XML representation of an application can
>certainly define what these decision points are, and how to query the
>user for them if necessary. Yet given that they are tagged and
>defined, the software rendering facility can collect and understand the
>data used at these points as well. This is again, structured
>information.
XML can be used to "define" anything.
But "define" is not the same as "identify."
_Identification_ of correct configuration is not something that can be
done as automatically as you imply.
>*** (16) Allows simulated configuration for debugging purposes.
>
>Because the decision points are defined in the abstract representation
>of the application, various inputs can be simulated.
And if there is a need to roll back changes, what then?
And if transactional changes are made that _cannot_ be rolled back
along with the changes in configuration, _what then_?
For instance, suppose a configuration change is made to the accounting
system, a cheque is printed based on that configuration, and then it
is determined that the configuration was bad, and should be rolled
back.
The system must have a way of distinguishing between the configuration
data that is to be rolled back, and transactional data (like recording
info about a cheque that was printed) that _CANNOT BE ROLLED BACK_,
even if the amount or payee was _WRONG_.
If you try to imply XML has the slightest thing to do with resolving
these kinds of issues, then you're _drastically_ naive.
>This design is about doing configuration management at the lowest, most
>basic level. We don't want to use complicated abstractions, because
>doing so will only tie our hands. This is about simple, fast, and down-
>right low to the ground.
Evidently you want to build Fundamentally Unimportant Systems, because
systems that are actually important require abstractions that can't be
oversimplified just for the sake of pushing it all into the
procrustean bed of "pretending to be pervasively about XML."
--
(concatenate 'string "cbbrowne" "@" "ntlug.org")
<http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/linux.html>
"Now, if someone proposed using people who spam comp.sys.* groups with
political screeds in place of lab rats for drug testing, I'd
wholeheartedly concur". -- John C. Randolph
------------------------------
From: "Kim Knoblauch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Re: SendMail "catch-all" alias?
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 23:59:49 -0400
I don't understand either. My ISP has set up our domain mailbox to receive
all user names destined for the domain. He knows nothing of a user list,
Just accept all mail for this domain !
In order to cut over to using my Linux box instead of the ISP, I need to be
able to do this as well, but my FAQ and HOWTO's for sendmail say nothing
about this.
In the sendmail.cf I tried '*@xxx.com', but did not get the results I
wanted.
I assume you are suggesting a rule such as 'Kuser user -m -a' in which case
I do not understand what the first user should be, assuming the second user
is the mailbox where such e-mails go, and what do the -m -a options mean ?
Kim
djmiller wrote in message ...
>I'm not sure I understand (pardon the newbie); how is this command run? Is
>this an entry in the aliases directory, <> included?
>
>"J.E.J. op den Brouw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Really, this should be asked at the comp.mail.sendmail newsgroup.
>>
>> # place to which unknown users should be forwarded
>> Kuser user -m -a<>
>> DLlocal:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> This is for the main domain name, not for virtual domains (AFAIK).
>>
>> djmiller wrote:
>> >
>> > Is there any way to set up the aliases so that all mail goes to one
>mailbox,
>> > no matter who it's for? Or rather, some "default" alias so that when
>> > someone sends e-mail to an undefined user name or alias, it goes to a
>> > mailbox instead of getting bounced?
>>
>> --
>> --jesse
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> J. op den brouw Johanna Westerdijkplein 75
>> Haagse Hogeschool 2521 EN DEN HAAG
>> Sector Techniek The Netherlands
>> Opleiding Elektrotechniek +31-70-4458936
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Linux - because reboots are for hardware changes
>
>
------------------------------
** FOR YOUR REFERENCE **
The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests
to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is:
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.setup) via:
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
ftp.funet.fi pub/Linux
tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux
sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux
End of Linux-Setup Digest
******************************
