Linux-Setup Digest #508, Volume #19 Tue, 29 Aug 00 11:13:14 EDT
Contents:
Re: anyone know of good continuous music stream player for linux? (Black Dragon)
Re: Linux RH6.2 RAID1 - Anyone succeed at this? (moonie;))
Re: Recommendations on a good book. (Black Dragon)
Re: GTK/GLIB not working!!!! (Black Dragon)
Re: telnet error (Black Dragon)
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: accessing fat32 partition (Black Dragon)
Re: 2 Ethernet cards, system won't boot ("Michael Perry")
Re: How to get latest GNOME distibution ("Michael Perry")
Re: upgrade to a new version of glib ("Michael Perry")
Re: make Win98 the default OS on LILO (Black Dragon)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Black Dragon)
Subject: Re: anyone know of good continuous music stream player for linux?
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 14:16:05 GMT
On Mon, 28 Aug 2000 21:49:29 -0700 in comp.os.linux.setup,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> `Ethan VonderWeid' said:
>I'm looking for something akin to Spinner, but that runs on linux. for
>those not familiar with Spinner, it's a windows app that plays a
>continuous stream of music (I think it uses realplayer under the hood).
>you choose a "channel" (each channel streams a different music genre)
>and away you go. not as much hassle as hunting down and organizing mp3s
>or cds, but on the downside you have to listen to the occasional ad.
>anyway, spinner.com has more details for the truly curious.
>
>anybody know of such a beast?
>
>thanks in advance,
I use XMMS [ http://www.xmms.org ] to listen to streaming audio.
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Black Dragon
"Resist militant `normality' -- A mind is a terrible thing to erase."
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From: moonie;) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux RH6.2 RAID1 - Anyone succeed at this?
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 10:20:40 -0400
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Professor Bruno wrote:
>[ Article crossposted from panix.user.unix,panix.questions ]
>[ Author was Professor Bruno ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ]
>[ Posted on 25 Aug 2000 17:17:04 GMT ]
>
>Per subject line, I've been trying to setup RAID1 on a RH6.2
>which has two Seagate 20.5 GB drives, but can't
>get my root and boot partitions on the RAID1.
>
>I've combed through the HOWTOs and the linux-raid
>archives trying to figure this out. Anyone
>on this panix newsgroup been successful?
>
>Thanks!
>
>
>Max Pyziur BRAMA - Gateway Ukraine
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.brama.com/
There is a how-to for exactly this at www.linuxdocs.org
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moonie ;)
Registered Linux User #175104
http://counter.li.org
KDE2
Kernel 2.4.0-test5
XFree86 4.0 Nvidia .94 drivers
RAID 0 Striped
Test-Pilots-R-Us ;)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Black Dragon)
Subject: Re: Recommendations on a good book.
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 14:19:10 GMT
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000 00:52:03 -0400 in comp.os.linux.setup,
<> `moonie;)' said:
[...]
>Red Hat Linux 6 Unleashed has been like a godsend to me (even though I run
>Mandrake 7.02)
I agree, Red Hat Linux Unleashed is an *excellent* book!
--
Black Dragon
"Resist militant `normality' -- A mind is a terrible thing to erase."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Black Dragon)
Subject: Re: GTK/GLIB not working!!!!
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 14:34:21 GMT
On 28 Aug 2000 23:56:17 -0500 in comp.os.linux.setup,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> `Gene Heskett' said:
>Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Matt ;
>
>> i just installed linux, and when trying to install something, i
>> think GAIM, it kept saying that i needed to install GTK 1.2.8 or
>> better, so went to www.gtk.org and downloaded, and tried installing
>> it, but it asked for GLIB
>> 1.2.8 or better, so i went back to www.gtk.org noticing that they
>> also had GLIB. i installed it, and no error messages. so then
>> getting back to installing GTK, it still said that GLIB 1.2.8 or
>> better was needed. i am confused, because i had just installed
>> GLIB, and tried reinstalling many times, but it still has the same
>> error messages. please help. thanks.
>
>The tar.gz from the GTK site puts it in a different directory. So the
>old one isn't overwritten, and its being found first. I chased that one
>around for a couple of months before I got brave and killed one whole
>directory, and that fixed it right up.
No need to do that. Use "./configure --prexfix=path" (config scripts usually
default to /usr/local, I need to use /usr on my Red Hat box) when running
configure to overwrite the original installation. Do a "./configure --help"
for more info. After compiling / installing, be sure to also run ldconfig.
--
Black Dragon
"Resist militant `normality' -- A mind is a terrible thing to erase."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Black Dragon)
Subject: Re: telnet error
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 14:41:08 GMT
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000 21:35:12 +0800 in comp.os.linux.setup,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> `Fred' said:
>Dear all,
>
>I setup a PC with redhat 6.2. I can telnet to this PC from other machine.
>However, it shows the following error message when I try to telnet to other
>machine from this PC.
>
>
>Trying ***.***.***.***...
>Connected to abc.def.com (***.***.***.***).
>Escape character is '^]'.
>Connection closed by foreign host.
>
>
>I try to ftp to other machine. It can't make connection too. Could you tell
>me what the problem is? Thanks a lot.
The "other" machine is refusing connections. Are you sure it's actually running
telnet and ftp servers?
--
Black Dragon
"Resist militant `normality' -- A mind is a terrible thing to erase."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 14:42:18 GMT
Sure you could use xml, as long as your install program can write it.
It would equivalent to the registry in WinX or the assorted /etc files
(and more) in *x. But these mechanisms work (ugly as they may be in
their own unique ways). Why are you trying to fix the part of software
installation & configuration that isn't broken?
In article <6WNq5.22658$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"paul snow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, the biggest problem is the interactions. If I have a set of
(any sort
> of structured description, so why not use, or ASOSDSWNU ) XML, why
can't we
> carry this XML forward to automate how we deal with them?
>
> Another complexity is just what we install. We can use (ASOSDSWNU)
XML to
> help us there too.
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8ofk4s$8vl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > There's nothing magic about xml, as others have pointed out.
Despite
> > all the current hype, it's really just SMGL lite--25 year old
> > technology chopped down to a manageable size & warmed over. The
only
> > reason people thinks it's hot is 'cause it has 'X' in its name.
> >
> > Though it's got no technical advantage over other file formats, it
does
> > have some value due to the hype--there's some consensus for it, so
it's
> > a kind of lingua franca. A big disadvantage over other formats is
that
> > it's so verbose--data files typically grow by an order of magnitude
> > when converted to xml format.
> >
> > It's already being used for configuration files & deployment
> > descriptors--something like what you're describing. It's
descriptive
> > enough & it works. I admit that I use xml frequently because, all
else
> > being equal, it's what everybody else thinks is new & hot &
sexy. So
> > people think our software is cool 'cause it use xml. & like I said,
> > it's no disadvantage that it works & you can get free parsers for it
> > from IBM & Sun & Oracle etc.
> >
> > But it doesn't solve any new problems. The biggest pain in the ass
in
> > installing new software on an existing system is the interaction
with
> > the software & hardware configuration that is already there.
> > That's the tough part & xml doesn't help with that. That's the job
> > that install programs do.
> >
> > In article <3q1p5.14319$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > "paul snow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Here is a few observations:
> > >
> > > Linux on the desktop (and as a server) requires it to beat Windows
> > XXX hands
> > > down for ease of configuration, security, and management.
> > >
> > > Installing software is simply the act of constructing in storage a
> > proper
> > > representation of the software. In other words, our talking about
> > > installing software on a computer is like a painter insisting she
is
> > > installing a picture of a duck onto her painting. It doesn't
matter
> > how she
> > > does it, she is rendering the duck, not installing it.
> > >
> > > We need to get rid of install programs, on all platforms. There
isn't
> > > another single thing we do on computers that causes more in
dollars
> > and time
> > > (Solitaire *is* a close second, however ;-).
> > >
> > > XML can be used to define a program in abstract. A single,
separate
> > > Software Rendering Facility can be used to take a program's
abstract
> > form in
> > > XML and render it to the target computer system.
> > >
> > > XML can be used to capture the options required for this
rendering.
> > >
> > > XML can be used to refer to a group of programs in abstract (XML),
> > and their
> > > options (XML), in order to define a single definition that can be
> > expressed
> > > in different ways on different computer systems to construct an
> > operational,
> > > distributed application. (Unlike today, where we have to install
> > every web
> > > server, every firewall, every Java JDK, every etc. all from
scratch,
> > with
> > > one mistake preventing any of it from working!)
> > >
> > > This discussion about how XML might be used along with Linux to
> > create a new
> > > concept in Operating Systems is beginning. We have the technology
> > and the
> > > know how. We just have to take our computer system, set it on its
> > side and
> > > view it a bit differently. This technology is going to
completely
> > change
> > > the rules of software configuration, management, and security, and
> > you can
> > > make it happen.
> > >
> > > http://www.egroups.com/group/xmlos/
> > > http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/xmlos/
> > >
> > > Paul Snow
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Black Dragon)
Subject: Re: accessing fat32 partition
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 14:51:53 GMT
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000 11:26:51 GMT in comp.os.linux.setup,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> `Paolo Meriggi' said:
>Hi all, I got a Mandrake 71 distribution and I recompiled my kernel
>(2.2.14) in order to work with RTLinux. Since then, I can see the dos
>partitions (a 2.5 Gb primary and a 500 Mb extended) only with the
>origuinal kernel (2.2.15) shipped with the distribution.
>When I boot from the patched RTLinux Kernel, it says "Wrong major or
>minor Number".
>
>My fstab is :
>-----------------------------
>/dev/hda6 / ext2 noatime 1 1
>/dev/hda1 /mnt/dosC vfat user,exec 0 0
>/dev/hda5 /mnt/dosD vfat user,exec 0 0
>none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
>/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 ro,nosuid,noauto,exec,user,nodev 0 0
>/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy vfat sync,nosuid,noauto,user,nodev,unhide 0 0
>none /proc proc defaults 0 0
>/dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0
>------------------------------
>
>Any help will be appreciated.
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>Paolo Meriggi
Perhaps you in-advertantly configured vfat as a kernel module? In that case,
you would need to use "insmod vfat.o" before mounting the dos parititons.
See also: "rmmod", for removing kernel modules.
--
Black Dragon
"Resist militant `normality' -- A mind is a terrible thing to erase."
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From: "Michael Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2 Ethernet cards, system won't boot
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 06:28:44 -0800
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David M. Siegel
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've just gotten a new development system, with 2 ethernet cards, so
> that it can also be used as a firewall.
>
> The system works fine with one ethernet card. With two cards, though,
> the system won't start; it seems to shift the address of my ide drives,
> and consequently it can't find the kernel.
>
> Here's the configuration:
>
> Linux Mandrake 7.1 Asus P2B motherboard
> 2 750 MHz PIIIs
> 512 Meg RAM
> 2 Maxtor 40 Gig hard drives
> Promise Ultra/66 controller (both drives are connected to the Ultra/66
> controller; that's what pushed me to Mandrake, which contains a kernel
> with Ultra/66 support) Soundblaster Live Value Elsa Erazor TNT2
> 2 3com 3c905c PCI ethernet cards
> and the usual floppy, keyboard, etc.
>
> Because of the ultra/66, my two drives are hde and hdg. If I put in the
> second ethernet card, the system claims to find partitions at hdi and
> hdk. The numbers and sizes of these partitions match the ones that
> should be at hde and hdg. Of course, since it's looking for hde and
> hdg, the boot fails claiming that it can't mount the filesystem.
>
> Once I went ahead and reinstalled the OS. When I did that, the 3c509
> module wouldn't load, claiming that the device or resource was busy. I
> looked at the information in /proc/interrupts and
> /proc/pci and could see no conflict. According to the bios, it's
> assigning the second card to IRQ 5; I see nothing else that wants IRQ 5.
> Since that time, I reinstalled again with one ethernet card; I don't
> have copies of the /proc listings.
>
> I might, I suppose have conflicts with i/o ports and/or device memory.
> I'd appreciate suggestions for detecting and fixing these problems.
>
> If I install the second ethernet card, as I mentioned above, the boot
> fails, claiming that it can't mount the first filesystem. If I then use
> the Mandrake 7.1 boot CD as a rescue image, it allows me to mount the
> partitions on hde!
>
> Deeply confused,
> -dms
Does the promise ide controller take an irq? I imagine you can boot with
one nic card but not two. Just to keep up here, where is your soundcard located
irq-wise? If you could somehow print the irq's being used for each device, I
think that would be quite helpful. I am no ultra66 user. I tend to stick with scsi
stuff; but someone else looking at the output of some /proc files may point at
something.
One other thought, are you using a shared irq spot for the pci promise controller that
may be right next to the second ethernet controller? A few of the pci bus share
irqs. Have you manually moved one of the nic cards to another pci slot and tried
again? I would try moving the nic card that is probably next to the promise controller
elsewhere or move the one that shares an irq. Thats just a guess though; because it
got me once when I wanted to have a system with a sblive pci card and a nic card.
Suddenly, the system would not play sounds but networking worked quite well.
When I moved the pci card to another location... voila. All worked.
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Michael E. Perry
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From: "Michael Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to get latest GNOME distibution
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 06:18:12 -0800
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Black Dragon) wrote:
>
> On Mon, 28 Aug 2000 15:52:21 -0400 in comp.os.linux.setup,
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> `Robert Morelli' said:
>
>>I'm really shocked that I need to ask this, but I've been to the GNOME
>>web site and I simply can't find the page with the main gnome package.
>>The links at the site seem to lead in circles.
>>(It kind of worries me when the people who are
>>supposed to be giving Linux usability can't even design a web site.)
>>
>>The best I can do is find a page that has several dozen individual
>>packages. If downloading and separately installing several dozen
>>packages is what's needed, I'll do that, but I was under the
>>impression that GNOME had some kind of painless installer.
>>
>>If there is some one package I can download, would someone here be kind
>>enough to tell me the precise URL at which it can be found? (I'm using
>>Calder OpenLinux).
>
> I was a little surprised myself that I had to download and install all
> the GNOME packages separately when I upgraded it, but I just endured it
> instead of complaining. ;-) After doing some research on the order of
> installation, and unpacking all the downloaded tar-balls into
> /usr/src/gnome, I wrote the following script to help automate the
> process, which works flawlessly on Red Hat 6.0 and will need to be
> modified to suite your GNOME version and system.
>
>
> gnome-install.sh
>
Can't one just install helixcode gnome? They have a graphical installer and
updater for all the most recent packages for all the distributions? This seems
a bit easier than installing all the packages by hand.
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Michael E. Perry
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From: "Michael Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: upgrade to a new version of glib
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 06:21:41 -0800
In article <8oeen2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Hung Ngoc Lai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I am trying to install GTK+; however, GTK+ requires glib versions 1.2.8
> or higher. At the moment, I am running glib version 1.2.5. How do I
> remove version
> 1.2.5 and replace it with 1.2.8 so that I can run GTK+? I am a linux
> newbie so please gentle with me? Please have your instructions to me as
> specific as possible. Thanks.
>
> David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Are you using a rpm-based distribution? Like redhat, suse, caldera, or turbo?
If so, you could download binary rpm replacements for each one. When I first
wanted to do this, the rpm upgrade path for glib/gtk+ seemed very confusing.
You could also manually install the libraries. I have installed newer versions of
the drivers I previously installed via tarball archive "over top". I don't know if
this is the factory approved way of doing things; but its what I did. Now I use
debian, and this stuff kinda takes care of itself.
I would definitely check out a mailing list or two or newsgroup specific to your
distribution and see if redhat or whatever has released a newer version you could
just rpm upgrade to.
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Michael E. Perry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Black Dragon)
Subject: Re: make Win98 the default OS on LILO
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 14:57:45 GMT
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000 14:17:42 +0200 in comp.os.linux.setup,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> `Eric' said:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> hi all,
>>
>> Recently, I installed win98 and Redhat6.0 successfully on my PC, but
>> the default os loaded by LILO is Redhat6.0, how do I change it to Win98?
>>
>> thanks in advance
>>
>> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>> Before you buy.
>
>add (or change) the line
>
>default=linux
>
>in /etc/lilo.conf to
>
>default=dos
>
>the name is whatever name you chose for windows (defaults to dos in RH6)
>and do not forget to run lilo after you changed this file.
>
>BTW, I'm not 100% sure about this, but I believe you can use linuxconf
>too to change the default boot.
That is correct, and I personally avoid linuxconf like the plague 'cause it
has given me major headaches in the past. It's great for getting started,
but after manually editing config files after gaining some experience, I found
it has a tendency really botch things up.
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Black Dragon
"Resist militant `normality' -- A mind is a terrible thing to erase."
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