Linux-Setup Digest #529, Volume #19               Fri, 1 Sep 00 03:13:10 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows (David Schreiber)
  Re: Linux Mail Server ("D. C. & M. V. Sessions")
  Re: X11 on ThinkPad 1422 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Please Help: Problems after recompiling kernel (Brendan Boyle)
  Re: Upgrade RH 5.2 to 6.2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  XXGDB trouble under Linux (Ron House)
  Re: Testing bad memory: was: why lots of bad hardware.. (hac)
  Newbie Installation Question (Timber__Wolf)
  Compiling LAN card driver under Mandrake ("Suddn")
  Re: Newbie Installation Question (Alex)
  Re: Newbie Installation Question (Black Dragon)
  Laptop Mouse behaving funny on X (Rajesh Radhakrishnan)
  Re: Installing hdparm utility (and compiling it) (Colin Watson)
  Re: Boot Issue ("C.J. Miller")
  Re: Boot Issue ("C.J. Miller")
  Re: Linux Mail Server (John Winters)

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From: David Schreiber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 02:01:05 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


> I do not recall if it stands for "Wireless Applications Protocol" or
> "Wireless Access Protocol."


The WAP binary XML encoding specification is used to transmit XML data
for WAP devices without the overhead of normal XML.  It is not the same
as WAP.  The spec is at:


http://www.w3.org/TR/wbxml/


I guess you could use it for non WAP related applications where you
wanted to remove the overhead of XML.


--
http://www.caverock.net.nz/~davids
Welcome to nowhere fast. Nothing here ever lasts.


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From: "D. C. & M. V. Sessions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux Mail Server
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 19:16:43 -0700

Raymond Doetjes wrote:
> 
> Uhhm neither Linux nor FreeBSD or any other Unix system can hold 500.000 mailboxes
> and therefor users.
> The password wile can only handle 64K on users. thats no 500000 users!

The clients don't have to have accounts on the primary server.
There are several ways to handle this, including subdomains and
hash functions on the username, which assign the traffic to
secondary servers.

Many ISPs get by just fine with far more than 64K users and
BSD variants.

> Phil wrote:
> 
> > Dustin Puryear -[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]- spewed forth the following rubbish:
> > >On 28 Aug 2000 13:28:40 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil) wrote:
> > >>
> > >>Not necessarily, I've heard of a guy over in the Netherlands running postfix
> > >>(ok it's FreeBSD so I'm cheating a small bit) on a standalone box with 500,000
> > >>users.
> > >
> > >I assume you mean he is running Postfix on FreeBSD and not that
> > >Postfix only runs on FreeBSD since I have Postfix running quite nicely
> > >on Linux (and SCO OSR5).
> >
> > Yes, considering the guy was talking about Linux, talking about postfix
> > running on FreeBSD is cheating a small bit. I see no reason why Linux couldn't
> > do the same, but anyways, a standalone box for a mail server is probably
> > impractical, especially for that many users
> > Phil.

-- 
|   Engineers solve problems -- it's what we do.  |
|            Do you want to be a problem?         |
|     D. C. Sessions === [EMAIL PROTECTED]     |

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: X11 on ThinkPad 1422
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 02:22:14 GMT

Thanks for the tip.  In the interim, I stumbled across
  http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/
aka Linux on Laptops, which had a link for the
ThinkPad i1400 to
  http://home.swbell.net/dennisle/linux/thinkPad.html
I got the latest versions of the recommended rpms and
it worked like a charm.

--Ted


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Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 11:19:10 +0800
From: Brendan Boyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Please Help: Problems after recompiling kernel

Black Dragon wrote:

> On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 16:24:12 +0800 in comp.os.linux.setup,
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> `Brendan Boyle' said:
>
> >I just recompiled my kernel for the first time and as is to be expected
> >I screwed it up somewhere.  I followed all the instructions and felt
> >pretty proud about it but now I can't find my cd burner anymore.  Kudzu
> >tells me on startup that it no longer exists.  When I compiled the
> >SCSI support I included all the Adaptec drivers but mine wasn't in the
> >list.  I have an Adaptec 2940 SCSI card.  Does anyone know which part of
> >xconfig  I need to reset to get my SCSI card back?  It is a dual
> >SCSI card and my scanner hangs off it as well so I have lost that too.
> >I'm running RedHat 6.2
> >
> >Also I now get an error message at startup that says "fstype devpts not
> >supported".  I can't spot this fstype in the Kernel Configuration so any
> >pointers to that would also be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >Thanks in advance
> >Brendan Boyle
> >Shadowtech
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Did you configure the kernel scsi drivers as modules? If so, you need to
> run depmod and modprobe, or manually load the modules with insmod.
>
> --
> Black Dragon
>
> "Resist militant `normality' -- A mind is a terrible thing to erase."

Thank you, I recompiled the kernel without using SCSI modules and my CDRom
and scanner are back.

Brendan Boyle


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Upgrade RH 5.2 to 6.2
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 03:07:18 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>       Looking for opinions and experiences on upgrading RedHat 5.2
>       to Redhat 6.2.  Any major problems or has it gone smoothly ?
>
> Jon
>
I've had problems upgrading from 5.2 to 6.2. I recently posted to this
NG but haven't received a reply on it yet. I think my ISP's newserver is
having problems. It took about a week before I even saw my initial post.

Here's what I posted:

Subject:
            Upgrade to RedHat 6.2 not smooth! Help!
       Date:
            Sun, 20 Aug 2000 00:10:16 -0400
       From:
            Tim Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
       BCC:
            [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Newsgroups:
            comp.os.linux.setup




Hi.

I had RedHat 5.2 with KDE and wanted to upgrade to RedHat 6.2. I
selected the upgrade option on the the install. Everything went smoothly
during the install process. (Or so I thought.) When I rebooted, the
problems begin:

1) kudzu hangs my machine when it gets to my modem - I have to let that
time out

2) It won't mount /dev/hda3, /dev/hdb5 (two partitions I have for the
Win95 side) The message is that the devices have the  wrong major or
minor number. They were just fine before.

    I also can't mount my floppy as  vfat, or my cdrom. I get the same
error message about wrong major or minor number.

3) message 'fs type devpts not supported by kernel'.  I found out later
that when I do a 'uname -r',  I still get 2.0.36.

4) kppp and all my other KDE apps are getting a message like:

# kppp
kppp: error in loading shared libraries: libqt.so.1: cannot open shared
object file: No such file or directory

I have library libqt.so.2. I'm not sure what happened to libqt.so.1.
All I know is, all my KDE apps worked before. (KDE was  installed in
/opt/kde)

5)
Aug 18 20:21:06 localhost depmod: depmod: QM_MODULES: Function not
implemented
Aug 18 20:21:06 localhost rc.sysinit: Finding module dependencies failed

 6) sysctl error

Aug 18 20:53:25 localhost sysctl: net.ipv4.ip_forward = 0
Aug 18 20:53:25 localhost sysctl: error: 'net.ipv4.conf.all.rp_filter'
is an unknown key
Aug 18 20:53:25 localhost sysctl: error: permission denied on key
'net.ipv4.ip_always_defrag'
Aug 18 20:53:25 localhost sysctl: error: permission denied on key
'kernel.sysrq'

I don't know what this  means, but it doesn't look good.

7) OSS sound license isn't coming up anymore. (I kind of expected that
one.)

Please help get my system in working order. Thanks.


################# end of post ##################

It turns out that if I boot off of the boot floppy, everything is fine,
but I'd like to boot off my HD. How do I change this?



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From: Ron House <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: XXGDB trouble under Linux
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 03:26:35 +0000

I recently asked here how to upgrade my compiler without upgrading my
whole system (RedHat), and upgraded the appropriate RH packages as
instructed, but I had to also upgrade various others that the new
compilers relied on. However, since then XXGDB has stopped working.
Originally it just said "Killed" and gave another prompt. I upgraded GDB
and various other systems, and now XXGDB says "Cannot get memory with
malloc" and stops. GDB itself works. Any thoughts on what I might try
next?

-- 
Ron House     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
              http://www.sci.usq.edu.au/staff/house

Goodness trumps ideologies.

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From: hac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Testing bad memory: was: why lots of bad hardware..
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 03:39:18 GMT

Jonathan Grobe wrote:
> 
> In article <8oju8n$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ..wrote:
> >
> >> What errors do you get? Signal 11 or 7 can mean you have a bad memory
> >chip
> >> in RAM or cache.
> 
> I am getting Signal 11 and installation aborting when I try to
> install Mandrake. How do I test memory?
> 
http://reality.sgi.com/cbrady_denver/memtest86/

-- 
Howard Christeller  Irvine, CA   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timber__Wolf)
Subject: Newbie Installation Question
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 04:01:34 GMT

Ok I am very new to Linux.  I have been working with NT for way to
long and I want to learn something new.  
I have a Dell Inspiron 7500 Laptop 196 MB of ram 18 GB Hard Drive 
ATI 3D Rage Mobility AGP-133 3Com 3c575 PCMCIA NIC

I would like to have three OS's w98 NT and Redhat 6.2

My problem is partitioning the drives.  The only beginner level linux
docs that break this down that I can find are for 2GB and smaller
drives.  I haven't gotten any farther but from what I understand it's
not real dificult to finish up the install.  

This is how I would like to partition the drives:
c:\ Win98  2GB  FAT16
d:\ Winnt   2GB  FAT16
e:\ Winnt   6GB  NTFS

the rest for Linux.....

I need a good step by step doc (something that will hold my hand and
walk me through the installation step by step).  I have been reading
for the past two days trying to learn and the longer I do the more
confused I get.  

My e-mail is timber@{nospam}choice.net
or leave a followup in the newsgroup

Many thanks ahead of time.

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From: "Suddn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Compiling LAN card driver under Mandrake
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 04:15:01 GMT

Mandrake has a lot of great things going for it but compiling programs
doesn't seem to be one of them.  In earlier versions I could compile my
winbond-840 driver with no errors and no warnings.  As of 7.0 there is NO
WAY!

I went out to DEJA and did a search and found that a LOT of people are
having the same problem as me.  However, none of the purposed solutions has
helped.

I have installed all kernel headers and source. I have included
the -l/usr/src/linux/include switch in the gcc command line.  I downloaded
the driver directly onto a linux disk.  I have sacrificed my neighbor's cat
to the great Penguin.  What more is there?

What the %$#^% did Mandrake do to their &%#$@# 7.0 and 7.1 versions that has
made them so *%$#@ incapable of compiling a simple driver!  I have been
trying to compile this driver for over six months!  I have asked many
questions, and even wrote to the author of the driver who, although
answered, was very rude. (Apparently he gets about a dozen emails per day on
the subject.)

I have tried to compile other programs with Mandrake.  gnuCash compiles fine
on Red Hat but pukes on Mandrake.  This is the end of the rope for me.  If I
don't find the answer soon then great features or not, I'm dumping this pig!






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From: Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie Installation Question
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 00:15:04 -0400

Timber__Wolf wrote:

> Ok I am very new to Linux.  I have been working with NT for way to
> long and I want to learn something new.
> I have a Dell Inspiron 7500 Laptop 196 MB of ram 18 GB Hard Drive
> ATI 3D Rage Mobility AGP-133 3Com 3c575 PCMCIA NIC
>

<snip>

>
> I need a good step by step doc (something that will hold my hand and
> walk me through the installation step by step).  I have been reading
> for the past two days trying to learn and the longer I do the more
> confused I get.
>

Since you are installing Red Hat, why not just check the doc from Red
Hat?
http://www.redhat.com/support/docs/installing_linux.html

You can find some links in this page... It *should* be quite useful.

Hope this helps.

Alex.

>
> My e-mail is timber@{nospam}choice.net
> or leave a followup in the newsgroup
>
> Many thanks ahead of time.

--
============================================
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http://www.seti.org/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Black Dragon)
Subject: Re: Newbie Installation Question
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 04:15:28 GMT


On Fri, 01 Sep 2000 04:01:34 GMT in comp.os.linux.setup,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> `Timber__Wolf' said:

>Ok I am very new to Linux.  I have been working with NT for way to
>long and I want to learn something new.  
>I have a Dell Inspiron 7500 Laptop 196 MB of ram 18 GB Hard Drive 
>ATI 3D Rage Mobility AGP-133 3Com 3c575 PCMCIA NIC
>
>I would like to have three OS's w98 NT and Redhat 6.2
>
>My problem is partitioning the drives.  The only beginner level linux
>docs that break this down that I can find are for 2GB and smaller
>drives.  I haven't gotten any farther but from what I understand it's
>not real dificult to finish up the install.  
>
>This is how I would like to partition the drives:
>c:\ Win98  2GB  FAT16
>d:\ Winnt   2GB  FAT16
>e:\ Winnt   6GB  NTFS
>
>the rest for Linux.....
>
>I need a good step by step doc (something that will hold my hand and
>walk me through the installation step by step).  I have been reading
>for the past two days trying to learn and the longer I do the more
>confused I get.  
>
>My e-mail is timber@{nospam}choice.net
>or leave a followup in the newsgroup
>
>Many thanks ahead of time.

What you need is a good book, and I suggest Red Hat Linux Unleashed. At
$39 usd the last time I looked, it's worth it's weight in gold, and comes
with Red Hat cd's too.

-- 
Black Dragon

"Resist militant `normality' -- A mind is a terrible thing to erase."

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From: Rajesh Radhakrishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Laptop Mouse behaving funny on X
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 01:04:58 -0400

Hi,

I just installed Redhat 6.1 on a Toshiba Tecra 730CDT laptop. Everything
is working great except that the laptop mouse behaves erratically ie. it
suddenly becomes active (while I am typing) and when I move the mouse it
grabs the contents of the xterm (like if the left-mouse click was always
pressed) and won't disengage. Then I have to play with both the mouse to
deactivate it.

However when I use an external mouse, the external mouse behaves fine.

Any suggestions?

Thanks
Rajesh

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: Installing hdparm utility (and compiling it)
Date: 31 Aug 2000 21:09:58 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I'w working on COREL LINUX 2.2.12
>
>In order to use hdparm utility (to increase transfert speed on my hard
>disk) I've downloaded that tool (from sun site).

Corel is based on Debian, and Debian has a package of hdparm. Does Corel
not have this?

>I've made the "tar" and it created me a complete directory
>(/usr/src/hdparm-3.9) with hdparm.c, hdparm.8, Makefile, etc ...
>After that I should process a "make" order but I don't succeed in doing
>it (because there seems to be no "make" on my PC).

So a reasonable thing to assume would be that you'll need to install
one. Install the make package. You'll also need at least gcc and
libc6-dev. You really will need a reasonable number of the development
packages in Corel if you plan to compile your own software.

-- 
Colin Watson                                     [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"And after the fire there came a still small voice ..."

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From: "C.J. Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.slakware,alt.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Boot Issue
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 06:38:21 GMT

Hmm...what is this loadlin? I'm a newbie, so speak slowly. :)

chris

Robert Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Use loadlin instead of lilo.  Never heard of loadlin?  That's because it
> works so well there are far fewer questions about it.
>
> On Wed, 30 Aug 2000 19:31:47 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I'm attempting to run Slackware 7.0 on a Celeron 667 with 64MB RAM and a
> >15GB drive. I've used FIPS to create a 13MB win98-FAT32 partition and a
> >2MB linux partition. The root linux partition is 700MB and is set to be
> >bootable, the swap partition is 128MB, with the remaining free space
> >left over for the \usr partition. The problem is that after completing
> >setup and rebooting, immediately after the BIOS prompt I get a "Missing
> >Operating System" error. Also, the creation of my LILO boot disk fails
> >repeatedly with "not enough space" errors, even after formatting the
> >disks for linux. Further, LILO itself fails during setup. I've tried to
> >configure it manually and that seems to work, but I still get the
> >missing operating system error.
> >What am I doing wrong?
> >
> >
> >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> >Before you buy.
>
>
> --
> R o b e r t  P r i c e
> ======================
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From: "C.J. Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.slakware,alt.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Boot Issue
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 06:41:16 GMT

Okay. The second time I tried the install, I did choose the MBR option.
However, I got a stream of 01s on to infinity. Refreshed my MBR, fdisked and
formatted, then tried again with a clean install of win98 only--got the same
thing. Am I leaving something out?

chris

Nisi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8olm8e$49d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am not sure, but I am getting the impression that you did not select in
> the install to use LILO as your default boot loader. It seems that the MBR
> has been cleared on the disk so that is the reason that you get the
"Missing
> Operating System" error, and because LILO is not installed there you are
not
> getting the friendly LILO prompt. I would check your install again.
>
> Nisi
> www.mindlessmayhem.com
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message <8ojnf3$4gn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >I'm attempting to run Slackware 7.0 on a Celeron 667 with 64MB RAM and a
> >15GB drive. I've used FIPS to create a 13MB win98-FAT32 partition and a
> >2MB linux partition. The root linux partition is 700MB and is set to be
> >bootable, the swap partition is 128MB, with the remaining free space
> >left over for the \usr partition. The problem is that after completing
> >setup and rebooting, immediately after the BIOS prompt I get a "Missing
> >Operating System" error. Also, the creation of my LILO boot disk fails
> >repeatedly with "not enough space" errors, even after formatting the
> >disks for linux. Further, LILO itself fails during setup. I've tried to
> >configure it manually and that seems to work, but I still get the
> >missing operating system error.
> >What am I doing wrong?
> >
> >
> >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> >Before you buy.
>
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Winters)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux Mail Server
Date: 1 Sep 2000 07:43:18 +0100

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Raymond Doetjes  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am completly ammused by people pointing to sever SMTP MTA's without
>seeing the big picture (except for the last person).
>
>500000 user accounts is almost impossible (specially on linux it stops ad
>user account 65535).
>Imagine the amount of diskspace you need and teh ammount of INodes.

What part of "You are looking at clusters and server farms and the
like." did you not understand?

John
-- 
John Winters.  Wallingford, Oxon, England.

The Linux Emporium - the source for Linux CDs in the UK
See http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/

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