Linux-Setup Digest #535, Volume #19 Sat, 2 Sep 00 07:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: Compiling LAN card driver under Mandrake ("Suddn")
Re: Trying to install Linux Mandrake 7.0, where in heck is KDE? (moonie;))
Mail server ("Jacques Human")
Re: RH6.2 hangs while "Starting pcmcia" (Tim Smith)
Re: Linux Mail Server (Nick Kew)
Re: ppp failure (Nick Kew)
Re: Can I use a 486/50 for linux? (Steve Wright)
HP Colorado 20G (Raffael Herzog)
Re: Total Beginner Needs Help!! (Colin Watson)
Re: GTK & LIBSIGC install on redhat 6.2 (Colin Watson)
Re: How To Boot Windows Or Linux ??? (Colin Watson)
Re: can't resolve local host name , help ! (Colin Watson)
Re: Trying to install Linux Mandrake 7.0, where in heck is KDE? (Colin Watson)
Re: having problems copying cd image (Colin Watson)
Re: mounting 16bit dos partition (Colin Watson)
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From: "Suddn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Compiling LAN card driver under Mandrake
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 05:28:16 GMT
Thanks, I'll read it over but this file doesn't have a make file so I'm not
real hopeful. Here are some of the error messages I get when I try to
compile the darn thing....
The command line. (less the -l/usr/src/linux/include switch.
> gcc -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O6 -c winbond-840.c
> [ -f /usr/include/linux/modversions.h ] && echo -DMODVERSIONS`
>
Below is a small portion of the output:
>
> In file included from /usr/include/linux/string.h:37,
> from winbond-840.c:105:
> /usr/include/asm/string.h:46: parse error before `size_t'
> /usr/include/asm/string.h: In function `strncpy':
> /usr/include/asm/string.h:47: number of arguments doesn't match prototype
> /usr/include/linux/string.h:13: prototype declaration
> /usr/include/asm/string.h:61: `src' undeclared (first use in this
function)
> /usr/include/asm/string.h:61: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only
> once
> /usr/include/asm/string.h:61: for each function it appears in.)
> /usr/include/asm/string.h:61: `dest' undeclared (first use in this
function)
> /usr/include/asm/string.h:61: `count' undeclared (first use in this
> function)
> /usr/include/asm/string.h:63: warning: control reaches end of non-void
> function
> /usr/include/asm/string.h: At top level:
> /usr/include/asm/string.h:84: parse error before `size_t'
> /usr/include/asm/string.h: In function `strncat':
If you want to try compiling it yourself the gnu source can be had at:
ftp://www.scyld.com/pub/network/winbond-840.c
"Jonathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8ooeck$jub$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <93Gr5.42680$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Suddn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Mandrake has a lot of great things going for it but compiling programs
> > doesn't seem to be one of them. In earlier versions I could compile
> my
> > winbond-840 driver with no errors and no warnings. As of 7.0 there is
> NO
> > WAY!
> >
> > I went out to DEJA and did a search and found that a LOT of people are
> > having the same problem as me. However, none of the purposed
> solutions has
> > helped.
> >
> > I have installed all kernel headers and source. I have included
> > the -l/usr/src/linux/include switch in the gcc command line. I
> downloaded
> > the driver directly onto a linux disk. I have sacrificed my
> neighbor's cat
> > to the great Penguin. What more is there?
> >
> > What the %$#^% did Mandrake do to their &%#$@# 7.0 and 7.1 versions
> that has
> > made them so *%$#@ incapable of compiling a simple driver! I have
> been
> > trying to compile this driver for over six months! I have asked many
> > questions, and even wrote to the author of the driver who, although
> > answered, was very rude. (Apparently he gets about a dozen emails per
> day on
> > the subject.)
> >
> > I have tried to compile other programs with Mandrake. gnuCash
> compiles fine
> > on Red Hat but pukes on Mandrake. This is the end of the rope for me.
> If I
> > don't find the answer soon then great features or not, I'm dumping
> this pig!
> >
> >
>
> OK, sounds like you may have tried this, but just in case ...
>
> have you checked sections 13.4.4 and 13.4.5 on this
> page?
>
> http://www.linux-mandrake.com/guides71/en/mdkrefguide/install-free-compi
> lation.html
>
> I have not run 7.0, but 7.1 has given me no problems compiling proggies
> (yet)
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: moonie;) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Trying to install Linux Mandrake 7.0, where in heck is KDE?
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 03:54:35 -0400
On Sat, 02 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>On Sat, 02 Sep 2000 03:29:06 GMT, Greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>well I dont know if this pertains to 7.0, but I use 6.0 which i believe is
>>to be the same virtually. try startx at the console.
>>
>> GR
>>
>Startx just launches a screen with two xterm windows and some sort of
>log. There are none of the features I have been led to believe should
>exist in the GUI for Linux (ie- some sort of menu bar, right-click for
>properties, etc).
>
>Does startx provide that for other people and just not for me? What am
>I doing wrong?
try typing "init 5" at the cli (as root) this will get you to the GUI login
screen and allow you to choose your WM/environment.
--
moonie ;)
Registered Linux User #175104
http://counter.li.org
KDE2
Kernel 2.4.0-test5
XFree86 4.0 Nvidia .94 drivers
RAID 0 Striped
Test-Pilots-R-Us ;)
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From: "Jacques Human" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mail server
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 09:59:08 +0200
I have a org. with a dialup mail acc. They are using mailbridge to access
their mail via a dialup every hour. (But doesnt work that well) now I want
to migrate to linux. They have aliases on the mail server at their ISP. Were
can I find some help regarding the setup of the mail server (step by step)?
tx
Jacques
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Tim Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.qeuestions
Subject: Re: RH6.2 hangs while "Starting pcmcia"
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 02:29:26 -0700
aleks wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I've changed network device for Toshiba Tecra8100 from 3Com PCMCIA card
> to
> docking station (3c905C PCI). After that it hangs on message:
> Starting pcmcia
>
> If I use PCMCIA network card, it boots ok. In case using Toshiba
> docking station and if I use interactive mode and don't start PCMCIA,
> it boots to level 5 and network is up.
> I've only installed drivers from 3Com and changed an entry in
> conf.modules:
> alias eth0 3c90x
> I use the same name for interface, as it was before.
>
> Could anyone correct me, if I made something wrong or tell how
> to find the source of problem /solve it?
>
> Regards,
> Aleks
Good chance you are seeing a failure during I/O or IRQ probe.
If you have Windows in another partition, use it's device manager
to see what I/O, memory, IRQ, and DMA resourced are being used
by your devices. Then try using the Interactive startup of RH6.2
to skip the startup of parts of the os that (on previous, failed
startup caused your problem). Then look at the .conf files that
apply to those devices to see if they failed to properly exclude
resources in use by other devices from being probed. (I had a
RH6.2 system that always probed an I/O range used on the system
board while trying to start my nic. After excluding the I/O range,
everything was fine. Sorry I'm not quite the guru you need here,
I had assistance in tracking down this problem.
-Tim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick Kew)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux Mail Server
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 01:04:00 GMT
In article <8oo904$nr6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Stratford) writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Raymond Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> I am completly ammused by people pointing to sever SMTP MTA's without
>> seeing the big picture (except for the last person).
Agreed.
>> 500000 user accounts is almost impossible (specially on linux it stops ad
>> user account 65535).
Only an issue if you insist on mail users also being system users.
>> Imagine the amount of diskspace you need and teh ammount of INodes.
That would call for an optimised filesystem. I'm not going to attempt
the arithmetic regarding inodes...
>> I think you are way out of your league with Linux. Now you are only
>> talking about SMTP what about pop3 which is a real resource hog when it
>> comes to collecting mail! 1 systems is not enough!
>
> Again, we don't know what his requirements are, so POP3 may not come
> into the equation (but if it does, you're quite correct.)
That calls for an optimised mailbox. If you use BSD format, then any
way of reading it is going to slow as the box grows. With Maildir, you're
back to inodes but POP isn't so slow.
> On the MTA front, I'd go for either Sendmail or Postfix. Sendmail's
> big and cumbersome, but it will do pretty much everything you'd need.
> postfix is much smaller and easier to use, but more limiting with what
> you can do with it.
Uh .. postfix doesn't look particularly small or limiting to me.
> I'd avoid Qmail if at all possible - it has
> definite problems when things get that large.
Pardon? I wonder what Hotmail and Yahoo will do when they get that large?
--
Nick Kew
Site Valet - the essential service for anyone with a Website.
Now available at <URL:http://valet.webthing.com/>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick Kew)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: ppp failure
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 01:23:31 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Peter Riggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Sep 1 21:08:34 linux chat[17146]: -- got it
> Sep 1 21:08:34 linux chat[17146]: send (ATDT856666^M)
Is that really your ISP's number?
--
Nick Kew
Site Valet - the essential service for anyone with a Website.
Now available at <URL:http://valet.webthing.com/>
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From: Steve Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can I use a 486/50 for linux?
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 22:09:34 +0000
On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, Bruce D. Meyer wrote:
>I have a 486 / 50 with 8 MB ram, and about 235 MB HD space. Anyone know off
>the top of their head I it is worth installing RH62 to this? or will it
>thrash horribly? A pur workstation, non X conifg would be fine,l just
>soemthign to hack out aek, sed, perl stuff on etc...
yeah. I use a 486DX266 and run Peanut 8.0 with X and it's all good.
I have 36M of RAM though and a 10GB HDD. With this hardware I see about 1 MB
of my swap partition in use (it's 64 MB) when fully loaded. Thats with httpd
and X with 4-5 apps running. The only thing that is slow is the X
newsreader.
Steve
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From: Raffael Herzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HP Colorado 20G
Date: 02 Sep 2000 12:36:21 +0200
I've got problems with my HP Colorado 20G internal ATAPI tape
drive. If I write something, everything seems to work well. But when
try to read, I just get an I/O error and the kernel log sais:
Sep 2 20:21:36 montuno kernel: ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc = 1e, key = 5, asc = 20,
ascq = 0
Sep 2 20:22:11 montuno last message repeated 2 times
Sep 2 20:22:11 montuno kernel: ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc = 8, key = 5, asc = 2c,
ascq = 0
Sep 2 20:22:13 montuno kernel: ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc = 1e, key = 5, asc = 20,
ascq = 0
This is the interesting part of the output of dmesg:
: hdd <-> ht0: HP COLORADO 20GB rev 4.01
: hdd: overriding capabilities->speed (assuming 650KB/sec)
: hdd: overriding capabilities->max_speed (assuming 650KB/sec)
: hdd <-> ht0: 650KBps, 13*32kB buffer, 6336kB pipeline, 100ms tDSC
I found some information on exactly that issue at
http://asimov.lib.uaa.alaska.edu/linux-kernel/archive/2000-Week-13/0650.html
but I still don't understand what I could do about this issue. Seems
like I'll have to patch the kernel. I'm using SuSE 6.4 with kernel
2.2.14.
Any suggestions would be appreciated!
--
Raffael Herzog
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
May the penguin be with you!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: Total Beginner Needs Help!!
Date: 2 Sep 2000 10:03:48 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I installed Mandrake 7.0 onto my PC. When I start up my PC and LILO
>begins, the default OS is Linux. How can I change it so the default is
>Windows. I like to be able to turn my PC on then leave it to boot itself
>up.
As root, edit /etc/lilo.conf, move the image= section which refers to
Windows to be before the other image= section(s), and run '/sbin/lilo
-v'.
>Also, when I do choose Linux, sometimes the log-in screen (with the
>penguin) flashes and won't accept any input (except for CTRL/ALT+DELETE
>and it shuts down when I do that!!)
>Any Ideas?
Have you tried Ctrl-Alt-Backspace? That should kill the X server, and if
I understand you correctly you're running some kind of display manager
like xdm or gdm, so that will restart the X server for you.
>I have no experience at all with Linux, but in time would LOVE to be able
>to scrap Windows98 permanantly!!
It's worth a shot. I eventually got rid of Windows after realizing that
it had got to the point where I was just never interested in using it
any more.
--
Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"Oh baby you're the only thing in this whole world / That's pure and
good and bright / And wherever you are and wherever you go / There's
always gonna be some light" - Meat Loaf, "Bat Out Of Hell"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: GTK & LIBSIGC install on redhat 6.2
Date: 2 Sep 2000 10:00:06 GMT
Daniel D. Downing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am trying to install GTK++, and was directed to install LIBSIGC
>first. This I did and ran all of the test to check the LIBsigc
>installation and they passed. Then I ran the configure program for
>GTK++ and it said LIBsigcc was not found.
You probably just installed the runtime library; you also need the
development package (probably called something like libsigc-devel) if
you want to compile things against libsigc.
--
Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"There is perhaps in every thing of any consequence, secret history,
which it would be amusing to know, could we have it authentically
communicated." - James Boswell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: How To Boot Windows Or Linux ???
Date: 2 Sep 2000 10:08:13 GMT
Yura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Ever heard about LILO?
>Probably your BestLinux doesn't configure LILO during installation, but
>let me tell you, LILO is the coolest boor manager ever.
I have to say that GRUB is quite possibly cooler. :) It's the boot
manager you're advised to use when running GNU/Hurd kernels, but it's
happy with Linux too. And its user interface is much friendlier than
LILO's. It's not really used much in the mainstream at the moment,
though, so probably hasn't had quite as much testing.
--
Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"Why would you make a better DPL than Wichert?
(Wichert, I'm particularly interested in your answer to this)"
- Anthony Towns, debian-vote
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: can't resolve local host name , help !
Date: 2 Sep 2000 10:17:56 GMT
Bert Douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>When I put a host name in the "/etc/hosts" file, I should be able to
>look it up without going to the DNS server. But when I type the "host"
>command at the shell, it always goes to the DNS, then says "host not
>found".
That's fine; that's what host is supposed to do, just like nslookup.
Both explicitly go directly to the name server rather than going through
the resolver library, which is what normally resolves hostnames to IP
addresses on your system (among other things).
If you want to check that your hostname will be looked up correctly, try
something like 'ping' instead.
>Are there any other files that are involved in resolving host names?
/etc/nsswitch.conf is involved too. 'man nsswitch.conf', as well as
'info libc "Name Service Switch"', will give you the full details.
--
Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"Everyone, please welcome our new friend Stef. He's here with us
because he thinks he's a penguin." - http://www.userfriendly.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: Trying to install Linux Mandrake 7.0, where in heck is KDE?
Date: 2 Sep 2000 10:52:01 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>On Sat, 02 Sep 2000 03:29:06 GMT, Greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>well I dont know if this pertains to 7.0, but I use 6.0 which i believe is
>>to be the same virtually. try startx at the console.
>
>Startx just launches a screen with two xterm windows and some sort of
>log. There are none of the features I have been led to believe should
>exist in the GUI for Linux (ie- some sort of menu bar, right-click for
>properties, etc).
>
>Does startx provide that for other people and just not for me? What am
>I doing wrong?
A few concepts ...
There isn't really any such thing as a single "GUI for Linux". You have
an X server, which more or less just sits and handles the low-level
drawing to the screen, as well as some other administrative things. X
clients - that is, any program that wants to pop up a window on your
screen, or whatever - connect to the X server (either over a network
connection or else by faking a network connection on the local machine).
There's a special X client called the window manager which draws borders
around windows, lets you move them around or whatever, gives you some
menus (often by clicking on the desktop), and most of the other things
you normally associate with a GUI. Some people also use "desktop
environments", which are basically collections of special X clients that
make the whole thing more consistent and easier to use; menu bars and
icons on the desktop are usually provided by desktop environments. Both
window managers and desktop environments nowadays often support themes.
All of these are completely independent. You use whatever X server
matches your hardware, like Windows' display drivers, and you can also
use whatever window manager you want and whatever desktop environment
you want (or none, if you prefer). KDE is just another desktop
environment (with an associated window manager, called kwm if I remember
correctly), so telling your Linux distribution's installer to install
the X Window System doesn't necessarily mean you're going to get KDE
too. startx just starts up an X server, a few clients, and a window
manager (all configurable in ~/.xinitrc). You'll need to find out how to
install packages using Mandrake, and then install the KDE packages.
For reference, at home I use sawfish as my window manager and no desktop
environment, which is very clean and distraction-free: no menu bar, no
icons getting in my way, a theme that's fairly modern-looking and easy
on the eye, right-click on the desktop gives me my menus, and the whole
thing is configurable to the hilt.
At work I have a rather faster computer, so at the moment I'm using the
Enlightenment window manager and the GNOME desktop environment (the
defaults there - Enlightenment is a bit heavy for me, though). Apart
from the fact that I've tried to make the keyboard bindings similar at
work so that I don't get too confused, you'd hardly recognize them as
the same system.
So try out KDE and see if you like it; I didn't at all, but tastes vary.
If you don't, then have a look at GNOME and some other window manager,
or you might end up preferring something like my setup which takes up as
little screen space as possible (actually, none in my case). There are
too many alternatives to count easily.
Looks like my AI of a .signature generator has done it again!
--
Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"And finally, the most important part of any GUI, the command-line
interface." - Branden Robinson, Debian XFree86 maintainer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: having problems copying cd image
Date: 2 Sep 2000 10:21:46 GMT
tej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>1st of all i'm pretty new to linux. i am upgrading my pc from redhat 6.1
>to 6.2, because i'm having problems with 6.1 and my network card driver. i
>copied an image of redhat 6.2 to a cd and created a boot disk (my linux
>machine is not online). then i start up my linux machine with red hat 6.1
>and ran the command:
>mount -o loop -t iso9660 <isofilename> <mountpoint>
>i set <mountpoint> to the mnt dir. (also tried this with the base and root
>dir). then i rebooted with the boot floppy and tried installing 6.2 off
>the hard drive, but i keep getting the error that the red hat file tree was
>not found on /dev/sda1. Can anyone tell me what i'm doing wrong.
Filesystem mounts aren't preserved when you reboot. If you've burnt the
image to a CD, why are you trying to mount it from the ISO image? I
think that if you want to install off the hard drive you usually need to
download individual packages (or copy them off the CD), but you'll need
to check Red Hat's installation manual.
--
Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"But in your dreams, whatever they be / Dream a little dream of me."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: mounting 16bit dos partition
Date: 2 Sep 2000 10:56:47 GMT
nickmbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I would like to be able to share files on one partition between win98
>and Red Hat 6.0 (At least until I get a PPP connection figured out) Is
>there a way that I can simply mount the drive in Linux and see it in
>Windows?
If you create, say, the directory /mnt/windows, then something like
'mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows' will mount the first partition
(1) on your first IDE hard disk (hda) and make it visible in
/mnt/windows. Read 'man fstab' to find out how to make that happen every
time you boot. If that partition is your normal Windows partition, then
of course Windows will be quite happy to read it. :)
>Do I need samba?
No, not unless you want to mount drives shared from another Windows
machine on the network.
Hope that helps,
--
Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"There is perhaps in every thing of any consequence, secret history,
which it would be amusing to know, could we have it authentically
communicated." - James Boswell
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