Linux-Setup Digest #538, Volume #19               Sat, 2 Sep 00 21:13:10 EDT

Contents:
  Re: How do I install .tgz files from a CD? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Trying to install Linux Mandrake 7.0, where in heck is KDE? (Bit Twister)
  Slackware Linux 7.0 fails to see type 82 and 83 primary partitions ("Mike Thomas")
  Re: Turning X-capable workstation into X terminal (Jean-Louis Leroy)
  Re: Wiped Linux but LILO still there ("sandrews")
  Re: associations (James Franklin)
  Re: Wiped Linux but LILO still there
  Re: dialup and a proxy server (Zebee Johnstone)
  Re: Slackware Linux 7.0 fails to see type 82 and 83 primary partitions (Robert 
Grizzard)
  Re: ppp failure (Nick Kew)
  UDFS for CDRW (Greg Davis)
  Re: HOW TO BECOME AREGULAR USER (SOMERTON KENNEDY)
  Lost ability to boot Windows with Disk Manager in dual boot system ("Jess Jackson")
  3dfx Voodoo3 AGP RH 6.1 (Rodney Loisel)
  Trying to install Suse 6.4.. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: src.rpm error: failed build dependencies: stylesheets is needed (my business)
  Re: /usr partition won't unmount on shutdown (Chris Rankin)
  automount problem on kernel 2.3.99-pre9 (Benny Li)
  Re: Install question - newbie- Laptop (Garry Knight)
  Re: How to print with HP Deskjet
  changing desktops ("Brian")

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How do I install .tgz files from a CD?
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 22:56:36 GMT

Generally to install a tgz you get to choose the directory yourself, I
frequently put it in /tmp first, and if I want to keep it, I move it to
/usr/local/src.

A rough guide which won't always work to installing .tgz files is (where
xxx is the name of the file before the .tgz):

cp xxx.tgz /tmp
cd /tmp
tar xfz xxx.tgz
cd xxx
### Try this
./configure && make && make install
### If that doesn't work type "pico INSTALL" or "pico README" and
### follow the instructions there.

This process should install the binaries on your system, you don't have
to keep the source directory, but if you do you should probably move it
to /usr/local/src

Regards,

Ian.

> I want to install  kexplorer.tgz  which came in a CD with the Maximum
> Linux Magazine.   But I don't
> know how to do it.... How do I extract it, to what directory, and how
do
> I install it?  Please take me
> through the steps....
>
> Thank you,
> Gerardo
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bit Twister)
Subject: Re: Trying to install Linux Mandrake 7.0, where in heck is KDE?
Reply-To: This_news_group.invalid
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 23:13:16 GMT


Sounds like you did a Server install instead of Workstation.

I use Custom/Expert so I get what I want.



On Sat, 02 Sep 2000 00:17:59 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I ran through the GUI installation process, and everything seemed to
>go well. It installed X Windows, I could reboot and login with the
>root user....
>
>But no KDE. This became apparent from previous posts here when people
>said if I typed "startkde" in the xterm and nothing happened, then KDE
>was not installed.
>
>Well I went into the xterm and typed "startkde" and it said the
>command was not found....
>
>So where is KDE, and how do I get it on my machine? I'm installing
>from the Mandrake 7.0 set you buy retail in stores, and I really would
>like to get a UNIX system going (already failed miserably in my
>attempts to install FreeBSD), but I'm completely lost now...
>
>Any assistance would be appreciated
>
>---Losing hope in NY


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From: "Mike Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Slackware Linux 7.0 fails to see type 82 and 83 primary partitions
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 09:27:32 +1000

Hi all.

I tried to install Slackware v7.0 from the CD with the book "Slackware Linux
for Dummies".

With fdisk I made a primary swap (type 82, /dev/hda2) and primary linux
native (type 83, /dev/hda3) partitions on /dev/hda and wrote the partition
table to disk.

There is also a preexisting Windows partition (/dev/hda1).

When the CD boots up and I start "setup", it says that I haven't got any
swap or native Linux partitions, so I can't install any further.

I tried fdisk again and the partitions were definitely there.

Rebooting didn't help.

I tried using cfdisk, and the fdisk's and cfdisk's from Debian's slink and
potato distributions, but still setup can't see the partitions.

I have never had this problem before and have been using and installing
Slackware for many years.

Any ideas?

Cheers

Mike Thomas




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From: Jean-Louis Leroy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Turning X-capable workstation into X terminal
Date: 03 Sep 2000 05:20:49 +0200

Don't bother, I found the problem: RH 6.0 had enterprise's inittab
start `prefdm`, which resolved to `gdm`. Once I repointed it to xdm,
everything started working...
-- 
Jean-Louis Leroy
http://users.skynet.be/jll

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From: "sandrews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wiped Linux but LILO still there
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 19:35:38 -0500

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> 
> I used to share my 10gb drive between Linux Mandrake 7.0 and Windows
> 98SE. However I wiped the Linux partition using Partition Magic 5.0
> Pro as I  want to use 2 seperate drives for 2 seperate OS's. The
> problem is that  LILO still wants to boot into Linux(which isn't
> there) as a default. This  means that I can no longer turn on my PC
> and leave it to come on, as it  tries to boot Linux, with obvious
> results. Can I either remove LILO  altogether or at least make Windows
> the Default OS? I know very little  about Linux, so please be gentle!
> Thanks in advance!  Alan.
> 
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com http://www.help.com/

fdisk /mbr works well

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Franklin)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: associations
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2 Sep 2000 18:46:19 -0600

On Sat, 02 Sep 2000 21:35:38 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Go into the Gnome Control Panel and go to Edit MIME Types.
>David
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>In article <8ojpft$bkb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  "Darren Welson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> How do I associate an application with a particular file type, like a
>> certain editor with text files?  I use rh62 and am using gnome in X.
>>
>>
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.

Although I use KDE I will offer this.  In KDE I have to ensure that I create
the file mime first, go to the application mime and associate that particular
file mime, the go back to the file mime and pick the application that I
associated with it.  Maybe Gnome is more intuitive.
-- 
James

A Daily Quip, Quote, or Fortune:
"Whom are you?" said he, for he had been to night school.
                -- George Ade

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Wiped Linux but LILO still there
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 23:48:27 GMT

You evidently installed LILO to the mbr. Since you intend to continue
using Linux, but on another disk drive, there are two things you can do:

1) Remove LILO entirely for the time being, until you get around to
installing a fresh copy of Linux in its new home. Use a DOS/Win boot
floppy.  At the a:> prompt issue command: fdisk /mbr     Clears LILO out
of the mbr.

2) Install Linux now. As part of the installation, install LILO into the
mbr pointing to the new Linux partition, but indicating the windows '98
partition as the boot default. After your installation routing gathers the
information needed to correctly edit the /etc/lilo.conf it will run the
lilo to properly set the newly configured LILO un the mbr As a little
homework reading pursuant to this whole process, check out one or more of
the linux+win95 multiboot how-to's or mini how-to's which can be found in
the documents hierarchy at www.linux.org, so that if at some future time
you need to make further changes to your booting configuration you can do
them by simply editing the /etc/lilo.conf file and running the lilo
command.

--Kevin


On Sat, 02 Sep 2000 20:29:05 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I used to share my 10gb drive between Linux Mandrake 7.0 and Windows 98SE.
>However I wiped the Linux partition using Partition Magic 5.0 Pro as I 
>want to use 2 seperate drives for 2 seperate OS's. The problem is that 
>LILO still wants to boot into Linux(which isn't there) as a default. This 
>means that I can no longer turn on my PC and leave it to come on, as it 
>tries to boot Linux, with obvious results. Can I either remove LILO 
>altogether or at least make Windows the Default OS? I know very little 
>about Linux, so please be gentle!
>Thanks in advance! 
>Alan.
>
>--
>Posted via CNET Help.com
>http://www.help.com/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zebee Johnstone)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.dial-up,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: dialup and a proxy server
Date: 2 Sep 2000 21:39:39 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In comp.os.linux.setup on Sat, 2 Sep 2000 14:17:58 -0700
Steven L. Dahlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Can anyone tell me if there is a product or a way to setup a proxy server
>with dial up capabilities, i.e., allowing anyone on my network to make a
>request and, if there is no current connection to the ISP, disl up and
>establish the connection.  Earlier I tried diald but despite a lot of input
>from several and a lot of elbow grease I was unable to make it work.

Diald is not much chop and is old.

Read the man page for ppp, especially the demand, persist, idle and
holdoff parameters.

Zebee

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From: Robert Grizzard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Slackware Linux 7.0 fails to see type 82 and 83 primary partitions
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 18:48:47 -0500


[note followup-to adjusted]

Mike Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all.

> I tried to install Slackware v7.0 from the CD with the book "Slackware Linux
> for Dummies".

> With fdisk I made a primary swap (type 82, /dev/hda2) and primary linux
> native (type 83, /dev/hda3) partitions on /dev/hda and wrote the partition
> table to disk.

> There is also a preexisting Windows partition (/dev/hda1).

> When the CD boots up and I start "setup", it says that I haven't got any
> swap or native Linux partitions, so I can't install any further.

> I tried fdisk again and the partitions were definitely there.

> Rebooting didn't help.

> I tried using cfdisk, and the fdisk's and cfdisk's from Debian's slink and
> potato distributions, but still setup can't see the partitions.

> I have never had this problem before and have been using and installing
> Slackware for many years.

> Any ideas?

Make boot and root disks from the images on the CD-ROM and try installing
that way?

I have heard reports from a couple of different people now that one of the
Linux-book-and-CD publishers was sending out broken CDs.  This may be one of
them.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick Kew)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: ppp failure
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 22:24:59 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        Peter Riggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Yes, is there a problem?

Fair enough.  It just doesn't look much like a UK phone number (maybe I'm
being naive), and given the full minute delay after your dialling it,
I surmised that perhaps you hadn't connected to anything.

-- 
Nick Kew

Site Valet - the essential service for anyone with a Website.
Now available at <URL:http://valet.webthing.com/>

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From: Greg Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: UDFS for CDRW
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 20:18:15 -0700

I want to set up my linux os to mount a udfs cd (incremental packet
written).  It would also be nice to be able to write to the cdrw using
the fs.  I am sure lots of people are wondering the same so please help
us out and post a reply.

thanks
Greg


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From: SOMERTON KENNEDY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HOW TO BECOME AREGULAR USER
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 00:16:47 GMT

thanks mike for your help [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mike Walsted wrote:
> 
> If, for example, you want the new
> regular user (named normal) with a password of abnormal, log in as root and run
> useradd normal
> passwd normal abnormal
> Hope this helps
> mikewalsted
> 
> On Sat, 02 Sep 2000, SOMERTON KENNEDY wrote:
> >I RECENTLY INSTALLED MANDRAKE 7 AND IM AROOT USER I WOULD LIKE TO BECOME
> >AREGULAR USER BECAUSE ITS DANGEROUS TO BE AROOT USER THANKS

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From: "Jess Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Lost ability to boot Windows with Disk Manager in dual boot system
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 00:24:32 GMT

I have a Quantum Fireball TM3200A as the master in a two drive
configuration. I am running the Quantum Disk Manager 9.5 software. I run a
dual boot Windows 98 / Redhat 6.0 Linux system and it did run LILO as the
boot selection. That configuration has worked fine for 10 months.

I not knowing that it was a VERY BAD idea defraged the Windows C: drive in
Windows. Now when I boot, I get the regular boot up screen showing my two
physical drives, but the only thing the system will let me do at that point
is put in a floppy and hit sapcebar to boot that floppy.

I can boot Linux off the floppy disk I created when I installed Linux.

But I cannot boot Windows 98 at all. I can boot a DOS floppy. I tried "FDISK
/MBR" and "SYS C:" but neither fixed the problem. I also ran the Disk
Manager Bootable floppy disk. It gives me a "Red" screen with the message
"Disk Manager unable to read the Dynamic Drive Overlay Loader."

I would like to get back where I was with LILO but would be happy just to be
able to boot Windows 98 normally. I can always boot Lunix off the floppy.

HELP!!!






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From: Rodney Loisel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 3dfx.glide.linux
Subject: 3dfx Voodoo3 AGP RH 6.1
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 20:30:01 -0400

3dfx Voodoo3 AGP   distr: RH 6.1
System p2mmx 96MB
Is this card supported in Linux
If so where might I start getting info for it.
Thanks
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Trying to install Suse 6.4..
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 00:27:41 GMT

Hi - Suse 6.4 is having a problem recognizing my CDROM: it's a Pioneer
DR766 SCSI, the SCSI adapter is SIIG SC2459 BIOS version 1.0. The
manuals aren't very straightforward. They discuss differnt kernel
parameters and so forth but I couldn't find anything for my particular
hardware configuration. At present I can't boot from CDROM, neither
is loadlin able to mount the CDROM. Any help appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
EL Squid


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From: my business <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: src.rpm error: failed build dependencies: stylesheets is needed
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 00:28:08 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 02 Sep 2000 14:29:24 GMT, my business <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >
> >
> > Trying to --rebuild a certain src.rpm, I get the following error:
> >
> > $ rpm --rebuild ghc-4.08-1.src.rpm
> > Installing ghc-4.08-1.src.rpm
> > error: failed build dependencies:
> >        stylesheets is needed by ghc-4.08-1
> >
> >  What is this `stylesheets' in reference to?
>
> I have this on RH6.2. Have no idea what ghc is or why it needs it. If
> memory serves, this may be in the errata somewhere. IOW, this version
is
> an update.
>
> [hal@feenix hal]$ rpm -qa | grep stylesheet
> stylesheets-1.54.13rh-1
>
> Is ghc documentation related?
>
> --
> Hal B
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> --
>

  Ok.

  I have basic RH6.1 which seems not to include a stylesheets RPM.

  ghc happens to stands for Glasgow Haskell Compiler.

  No idea why a compiler would need sylesheets.

  But I'll try the stylesheets RPM from RH6.2.

  Thanks.

--


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From: Chris Rankin <au.zipworld.com@{no.spam}rankinc>
Subject: Re: /usr partition won't unmount on shutdown
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 11:43:45 +1100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Unfortunately this has created a number of problems, the most serious of
> which is that when I try to shut down my machine it hangs, saying that
> hda5 (the /usr partition) is busy and can't be unmounted.

The "-r" option of unmount will try to remount busy partitions as
"read-only". The shutdown can then proceed and you won't need to fsck.
You will need to find the umount command in your shutdown script, which
will probably be somewhere in /etc/rc.d.

> Another less serious problem is that many of what used to be symbolic
> links in the /usr/lib directory are now copies of the file (rpm
> complains about this regularly).

"cp -dpR" would have done what you wanted.

You can correct this by hand, although it'll be a bit tedious. First, go
to a "bare-bones" mode such as "telinit 1" so that as few things are
active as possible. Then you need to discover all of the libraries on
/usr which are IDENTICAL to each other so that you can replace the
copies with links to the file with the most complete version
information. E.g.

# ln -sf libThingy.so.x.y.z  libThingy.so.x.y

This will replace the libThingy.so.x.y object with a symbolic link to
libThingy.so.x.y.z. Your X libraries will also probably be affected.
Finally you can run ldconfig just to be sure everything is OK. It should
run without error.

BTW I don't use RedHat so maybe there's a "magic" rpm option to restore
all of your packages? This would be a lot easier although maybe less
instructive ... ;-)

You really should do something like this because you are wasting a lot
of disk space with all these libraries.

Chris

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From: Benny Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: automount problem on kernel 2.3.99-pre9
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 00:47:36 GMT

hi,

    I just built this kernel on RH6.1
    Everything was fine until i did "shutdown -r now"................

    The system hung at the point where it said it cannot unmount /proc
because automount is not present.

    Then, I rebuild the kernel with automount enabled, now it cannot
recognize partitions /dev/hda5, 6, 7, 8, 9

    can somebody suggest why?


thanks
ben


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From: Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: Install question - newbie- Laptop
Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 01:48:23 +0100

Lyndon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>1) You cannot use DOS's fdisk to create a Linux partition. You need to
>use Linux's fdisk to do this. Unfortunately, you need Linux installed
>somewhere on your computer to do this. 

Or you can just use Ranish Partition Manager which runs under DOS:
http://www.users.intercom.com/~ranish/part/

-- 
Garry Knight
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: How to print with HP Deskjet
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 15:13:40 -0600

On Sat, 02 Sep 2000 21:32:19 +0200, T. Bundies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>I installed Red Linux  V.8 and I am nearly satisfied. But there is still
>one problem:  my HP Deskjet 895Cxi is not working. Somewhere I read that
>it is possible to print with, but how to I do not know.  Can someone
>give me a hint?
>
>CU,
>  Thomas
>

I believe that the program that you are looking for is pnm2ppa. 

Alternately, go to www.linuxdoc.org and check the HP-HOWTO.  It 
covers setting up linux and various HP equipment.

Monte


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From: "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: changing desktops
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 00:58:59 GMT

I use RH6.0.
I have KDE for my root account but when I switch to my user account it
starts Gnome.  I would like to change this account to use KDE but I cannot
find where or how this is started.  In Gnome  the Settings/ Desktop
Switching Tool does nothing.
Where is the particular desktop set and how would I change it to use KDE?

Thanks
Brian




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