Linux-Setup Digest #402, Volume #19 Tue, 15 Aug 00 00:13:11 EDT
Contents:
migration from YP/NIS+ to LDAP (Leonid Andreev)
Re: Coppermine SLOW PERFORMANCE... ("John Mazza")
Re: RedHat and Windows 2000 ("Cobb")
Re: Linux on AMD (blowfish)
Re: Linux on AMD (blowfish)
Re: Caldera and SCO, was Linux on AMD (blowfish)
Re: pcmcia include file clash 2.4.0-test6 & pcmcia-3.1.19 (David Hinds)
Re: Caldera and SCO, was Linux on AMD (blowfish)
Re: Booting from a different kernel image (Peter Mitchell)
Re: Tri Boot win98,w2k,linux using w2k boot manager? (Rod Smith)
Re: How to remove a non-rpm program? (bryan1976)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leonid Andreev)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: migration from YP/NIS+ to LDAP
Date: 14 Aug 2000 22:22:27 -0400
Hi,
I'm wondering if anybody out there is using LDAP as their main
directory service (instead of YP/NIS+). RedHat comes with a collection
of migration tools that translate your /etc files and/or NIS maps into
LDIF files, plus the nss_ldap library and a collection of pam.d
replacement files; there's even a preconfigured ldap-aware
nsswitch.conf replacement. The whole migration process seems like a
straightforward enough thing to do, but I would really like to hear
some real-life stories; how reliable/robust/simple to administer the
whole scheme is? Is it more/less secure than NIS? NIS+? I'm really
interested in your experiences, good and bad alike. Thanks in advance
for any info you can provide!
Email replies are especially appreciated.
best,
-leonid
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From: "John Mazza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Coppermine SLOW PERFORMANCE...
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 02:34:50 GMT
You might want to check the BIOS settings for CAS latency to make sure that
you are not experiencing excessive wait states on memory access.
<Alvaro Palma Aste [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8ma86c$dl3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> En comp.os.linux.hardware EKK escribio:
>
> Do you have the FPU activated in Kernel?
> Are you using PC100? Is your Pentium running with FSB at 100Mhz? in
> this case, probably you have a Pentium at only 490 Mhz (if your
> Pentium is B (or E, I never can remember what is for Coopermine and
> what for 133Mhz), the FSB MUST BE 133MHZ!!!
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Regards from Chile
>
> >OK,
>
> >I HAVE SAID THIS BEFORE, BUT DIDN'T GET AS MUCH RESPONSE
> >AS I THOUGH I WOULD.
>
> >HAS ANYONE EXPERIENCED BELOW-EXPECTATIONS PERFORMANCE FROM
> >COPPERMINE PENTIUM III CHIPS?
>
> >MY NEW PIII850, PIII650 PERFORM ONLY MARGINALLY BETTER THAN
> >MY OLD PII450.
>
> >CACHE!!!!
>
> >IS THIS OR IS THIS NOT AN ISSUE?
>
> >SUPPOSEDLY THE NEW 256KB ON-DIE CACHE IS MORE EFFICIENT, BUT
> >PERHAPS ONLY FOR MUNDANE WINDOWS TASKS. IF I AM RUNNING A
> >MEMORY-INTENSIVE LARGE PROBLEM THAT IS MOSTLY FLOATING POINT
> >OPERATIONS, AM I BETTER OFF WITH THE LARGER CACHE.
> >IT SEEMS TO BE THE CASE WITH OTHER PROCESSORS, LIKE MIPS OR
> >ALPHA. FOR EXAMPLE THE ALPHA 667MHZ (DP264) HAS A FAT 4MB
> >CACHE AND IT IS TWICE AS FAST AS A PIII500(512KB CACHE).
> >ALSO, THE MIPS PROCESSORS FREQUENCY IS BELOW PENTIUM FREQ.
> >BUT THE LARGER CACHE USUALLY SEEMS TO MAKE UP IN OVERALL
> >SPEED.
>
> >NOW. I KNOW THE ALPHA IS THE FASTEST OUT THERE AND I AM
> >VERY HAPPY WITH IT, BUT I THOUGHT THAT A PIII850 WOULD AT
> >LEAST BE 1.5 TIMES FASTER THAN A PII450.
>
> >WHAT IS GOING ON?????
>
> >SHOULD I JUST RETURN THESE NEW PROCESSORS AND HUNT FOR AN
> >EXTINCT PIII600MHZ WITH THE OLD-STYLE 512KB CACHE????????
>
>
> >PERPLEXED,
>
> >AG
> >--
>
>
> >P.S.: PLEASE ALSO REFER TO MESSAGE WITH HEADER:
> >"slow PIII850MHz performance..."
>
> >THANK YOU MUCH.
>
>
>
>
>
> >Alessandro Giachino, Software Engineer
>
> >EKK Inc.
> >2065 West Maple C309 tel. 248-624-9957
> >Walled Lake MI 48390 fax. 248-624-7158
> >_____________________________________________
> > http://www.ekkinc.com
>
> --
> Atte
>
> �lvaro Palma Aste
> Grupo de Ing Biom�dica
> U. de Chile
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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From: "Cobb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,aus.computers.linux,hk.comp.os.linux,linux,sdnet.linux
Subject: Re: RedHat and Windows 2000
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 03:07:38 GMT
Win9x will overwrite the boot sector of the HDD, and in effect will wipe out
whatever boot loader (i.e. LILO) you're running so that you can only boot
into Win9x. I'm not savvy on WinNT or 2k, but I can only assume that they
do not exert the same behavior.
--
http://www.cobbcomputer.com
New computers from $499 with NO contracts or rebates!
Hien Vu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I don't understand why you have to "first install windows98, then windows
> 2000..." Can you just install windows 2000 directly then Linux after that?
>
>
>
> Anonymous wrote:
>
> > yes, i had done the same thing before too, you must first install win9x,
> > then windows 2000, and then linux... even though i use winlinux now,
which
> > runs on my win9x partition :)
> >
> > "JC" <j168.1*DONTSPAMME*@email.com> wrote in message
> > news:l7Jl5.9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > I installed windows 98, then redhat linux 6.2, then windows 2000 and
had
> > no
> > > problems.
> > > I think if you install linux after installing windows, it should be ok
as
> > > well.
> > >
> > >
> > > BEryllium wrote in message <8n6h6f$mph$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > > >I am planning to install RedHat in my PC, which has installed
Win2000.
> > To
> > > >avoid incompatibilities. What should I notice?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Also, which one (RedHat or Win2000) should be installed first if I
would
> > > >like to install them in the new PC?
> > > >
> > > >Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux on AMD
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:25:01 -0700
Craig Bingman wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, blowfish <..> wrote:
> >You know what?
> >
> >Actually it's very easy to show a newbie how to build from source.
>
> Your comment presumes that there is someone to show the newbie how to
> build from source. In many cases, there isn't. There certainly wasn't
> anyone holding my hand when I first installed it, several years ago.
>
All the newbie has to do is ask.
Oh. BTW. I never tell any newbiw to RTFM like those "guru". I try to help them to
solve their problem.
For the record. I NEVER had any formal computer/programming trainning. It's just a
hobby started many years ago. My background has nothing to do with cs, or ee, or
math. And I figured out everything all by myself. And I know those fscking manuels
are just that. FM. Most are outdated.
> Craig
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] < New Primary E-Mail Address
> http://fpage1.ba.best.com/~cbingman
--
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer user.
(Have Fun with geek's culture:-Version
2.4-pre-release99999-test-1234567.pre-beta5000.)
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs ==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSzzzzz!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female deer.)
RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A needle
pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That will bring
us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh.
(c)Copy Righted by Alex / blowfish-2000. All Rights Reserved.
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux on AMD
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:29:14 -0700
Bob Hauck wrote:
>
> On Mon, 14 Aug 2000 13:29:24 -0700, blowfish
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Bob Hauck wrote:
> >>
>
> >> >Do you think Linux distro like Redhat really any better than Windoz?
> >>
> >> Why are you here, instead of one of the advocacy groups where this crap
> >> belongs?
> >>
> >Ouch. A RedHead gets hurt.
>
> I don't use Red Hat, and I'm tired of your trolling.
>
GNU/Debian... Right?
You can choose to ignore my posts, or kill file my posts.
The options are yours. But this is a public, open forum. I don't like a lot of
things others are posting too. But it's freedom of speech. So. I live with it.
;-)
> *PLONK*
>
> --
> -| Bob Hauck
> -| To Whom You Are Speaking
> -| http://www.haucks.org/
--
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer user.
(Have Fun with geek's culture:-Version
2.4-pre-release99999-test-1234567.pre-beta5000.)
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs ==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSzzzzz!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female deer.)
RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A needle
pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That will bring
us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh.
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.sco.misc
Subject: Re: Caldera and SCO, was Linux on AMD
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:38:25 -0700
Bill Vermillion wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Tony Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >However, I think the purchase could mean very good things
> >for Caldera- they pick up a lot of engineering talent, and
> >of course source code for things Linux currently doesn't
> >have -
>
> Well part of this is exactly why Love left Novell and founded
> Caldera. He believed in Unixware, and He couldn't get those who were
> so enamored of the Novell way to use the Unixware material they acquired
> from USL to even look at it, so he started Caldera. That makes Calerda
> one of the early players in the Linux world - and the plus is that
> it was founded by those who believed in Unixware
>
Yeah. I understand that Caldera is one of the early Linux player. Like Slackware
and SuSE.
> Love left in 1994. It was a year later, 1995, when Novell sold the
> USL to SCO. More than a few left Novell when the Netware side came
> on so strong against Unixare.
>
I had very limited experience with Novell. Tried SCO for a little while. It seems
to me that SCO had always been kind of funky. Maybe they made a lot of decisions
on the Santa Cruz Beach while surfing, instead of in the broadroom.
> This is just my opinion/speculation, but given Love's past like of
> Unixware and the fight's he fought for it at Novell, I suspect he's
> had his eye on CSO for a while. I don't know if he was part of the
> group that casued Novell acquire USL in the first place, but I
> wouldn't be surprised. THere's more to Caldera than 'just another
> Linux company'.
>
I know, Linux is just part of Caldera.
> I just went to check something and see the SCO Web site has
> reverted to what it was last week instead of the SCO/Caldera
> web page that came up eariler today. This has to be confusing for
> all concerned.
>
>From what I've read. What they have released on their press release to the IT rags
are different to what they talked about their plans are, to the financial news
reporters.
It's confusing as hell.
> >As to being broken, I have had contrary ...
>
> I had the impression from the other poster that he meant 'broke' in
> terms of no money. Ah - such is this language we call English.
>
My apology. I should have used the word "bankrupted" instead of the word "broke."
> --
> Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com
--
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer user.
(Have Fun with geek's culture:-Version
2.4-pre-release99999-test-1234567.pre-beta5000.)
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs ==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSzzzzz!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female deer.)
RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A needle
pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That will bring
us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh.
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From: David Hinds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: pcmcia include file clash 2.4.0-test6 & pcmcia-3.1.19
Date: 15 Aug 2000 03:31:16 GMT
In comp.os.linux.portable Alastair Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Above is a part of the Configure script from the beta version. Now if I
: have CONFIG_PCMCIA set in my kernel config it merrily sets up the
: includes so that the kernel include file versions are hit first.
That is as it should be.
: Thus
: with my kernel sources 2.4.0-test6 I get an incorrect version.h and
: goodness knows what else.
No it is not incorrect. If you enable CONFIG_PCMCIA in your kernel,
then you must want to run the PCMCIA code that is in your kernel. The
PCMCIA header files in the kernel tree must take precedence. If that
is not what you want, then you should turn off CONFIG_PCMCIA.
: and all seems to build ok.
This is not a supported configuration and may fail in strange ways.
: I can see that if I don't have CONFIG_PCMCIA
: set in my kernel config I would be ok - but why would I be compiling
: card services if I don't have PCMCIA support enabled?
PCMCIA support in your kernel is equivalent, more or less, to what you
get if you compile the stuff in the modules directory of the PCMCIA
package. If you enable CONFIG_PCMCIA in your kernel, then you've got
it in your kernel, and you should not be trying to compile the modules
from the standalone PCMCIA package. That's why a "make all" in this
situation doesn't build any modules: it only builds the user tools.
If you don't want to use the kernel PCMCIA support, then go ahead and
turn off CONFIG_PCMCIA in your kernel. Then the PCMCIA Configure will
let you build the modules in the standalone PCMCIA package.
There is overlapping functionality between the PCMCIA support in the
kernel tree, and what is in the separate PCMCIA package. The PCMCIA
Configure script chooses which to use based on what you selected for
CONFIG_PCMCIA.
-- Dave
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.sco.misc
Subject: Re: Caldera and SCO, was Linux on AMD
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:41:23 -0700
Bill Vermillion wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bill Vermillion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I just went to check something and see the SCO Web site has
> >reverted to what it was last week instead of the SCO/Caldera
> >web page that came up eariler today. This has to be confusing for
> >all concerned.
>
> Ah. The page I saw this AM as the default is now linked on the
> original home page as "New Web Sites". That was a surprise when I
> was trying to hunt for something and it had all changed.
>
That's part of the beauty, or the curse of the web. Instant changes/updates at a
moment's notice. :-)
> --
> Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com
--
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer user.
(Have Fun with geek's culture:-Version
2.4-pre-release99999-test-1234567.pre-beta5000.)
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs ==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSzzzzz!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female deer.)
RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A needle
pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That will bring
us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh.
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From: Peter Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Booting from a different kernel image
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:18:10 -0700
You can do it with loadlin - just pass the name of the new
kernel in the parameters.
The other problem (which applies with lilo and loadlin) is
if the modules don't match the kernel, eg different
versions. I don't know what is the best way to handle this.
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Tri Boot win98,w2k,linux using w2k boot manager?
Crossposted-To: microsoft.public.win2000.setup
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 03:58:02 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <XFAl5.469591$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith) writes:
>
> The usual way to do this is to use Linux's dd to extract an image of the
> Linux boot sector, thus:
>
> dd if=/dev/hda7 of=linux.sct
Oops. I left off a couple of important parameters. That should be:
dd if=/dev/hda7 of=linux.sct bs=512 count=1
Actually, the bs=512 parameter just re-states the default, and so can
be omitted. The count=1 parameter is critical if you just want to get
the boot sector, though; omitting it results in an extraction of the
entire partition.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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Subject: Re: How to remove a non-rpm program?
From: bryan1976 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:52:32 -0700
Go to the source dir from where you compiled the program and
change to superuser an type "make uninstall" without quotes.
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