Linux-Setup Digest #576, Volume #19               Thu, 7 Sep 00 17:13:10 EDT

Contents:
  Re: "Securing and Optimizing Linux: RedHat Edition" : Good? (Frederic Faure)
  Re: a newbie question before installing linux, please help... ("philo")
  Re: Scsi Tape Drive on RH 6.2? ("Christopher A. Stevens")
  Re: Yet another Ethernet question (please help) (Flotsam)
  Re: NEW NVIDIA DRIVERS (Warning) (pug)
  Converting HD back to Windows (James Carter)
  Re: scsi will not load ("Christopher A. Stevens")
  Re: HELP!!!!! Need help on linux installation!!!!!!!!! Linux Newbie question!!!! (M. 
Buchenrieder)
  Re: HELP!!!!! Need help on linux installation!!!!!!!!! Linux Newbie question!!!! (M. 
Buchenrieder)
  Kernel ("ronnie")
  Re: Fdisk problem with SCSI HD (erik albeda)
  Re: rpm-4.0 (Peter Riggs)
  Re: kernel 2.4.0-test7 module error ("The infamous \"Brian\"")
  Re: HELP!!!!! Need help on linux installation!!!!!!!!! Linux Newbie  (mst)
  help: glibc problems (johnny B)
  Re: Linux box & Win NT Server for Inet connection ("Nisi")

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frederic Faure)
Subject: Re: "Securing and Optimizing Linux: RedHat Edition" : Good?
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 19:26:45 GMT

On Thu, 07 Sep 2000 00:57:08 -0500, "David .."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>You can get it here to see if you want to buy it.
>
>http://www.linuxdoc.org/guides.html

404 FILE NOT FOUND... :-(

Thx anyway
FF

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From: "philo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: a newbie question before installing linux, please help...
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:22:14 -0500

when you get to your linux installation you will have to delete on of the
partitions to create the free space for adding your linux partitions.
you will still be able to access the remainder from windows...
for example if you delete your  E: drive to install linux...your F drive
will be reassigned the designation E:
then you can install LILO on your mbr and dual boot.
the only thing i'm not sure about it where to put your /boot
partition...
you better read up on that as it may have to be installed on your primary
master. but it will only require a 15 meg partition
Philo

Philo



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From: "Christopher A. Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Scsi Tape Drive on RH 6.2?
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 15:38:52 -0400

Neal Rhodes wrote:
> 
> Ok, I've got a working RH 6.2 system, Scsi controller(s).  I've got
> a shiny new external VXA tape drive and cable.   And I've read every
> How-to I could find on what happens next to make the linux system
> aware of the tape drive, and what device names I should use to access
> it.
> 
> Can anyone point me in a direction?
> --
Not a redhat user, so I don't have detailed instructions, but the scsi
device for  tape drives is
st# as in /dev/st0, /dev/st1, etc.

Watch bootup or do a "dmesg" and look for the kernel detecting SCSI
device st0 and the tape drive name.
If not there, then you need to install the kernel module for the scsi
tape support called st.o using whatever configuration tool is available
for redhat.

>From the command line, you can do (as root), "/sbin/insmod st" as a
temporary solution until you get redhat configured to load the module
for you.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Flotsam)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.networking,linux.dev.newbie
Subject: Re: Yet another Ethernet question (please help)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 19:39:21 GMT

On Thu, 07 Sep 2000 15:07:31 GMT, Chris Huhta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Now, I'm using a cable modem, my NIC is a ISA 3com 3c509B, my isp is 
>@home.  If I recall correctly, under 7.0 I was actually able to leave it 
>in PnP mode, and use pnpdump/isapnp to configure it in linux...easily.  
>Now, for whatever reason, this doesn;t work on the new install.  Has 
>something changed in 7.1 that I'm just not aware of, or am I doing 
>something wrong?

I haven't _tried_ turning on PnP in the BIOS settings, but everything
I've read says it must be disabled to use it in software.  Otherwise
devices get initialized before software, i.e. isapnp (someday, we hope,
Linux kernel) gets a chance at them.  Then you get "busy" signal.

>In W98, the 3c509b gets config'd to 0x210 IRQ 5 in PnP.  I go into Linux, 
>where eth0 can't be pulled up on boot (of course).  From the konsole, I 
>run "pnpdump >intel.conf".  The intel.conf file contains info for the 
>3com (it IS found).  I change the IRQ to 5 in this file and make sure the 
>address line, irq line and act y line are uncommented.  Then I run isapnp 
>intel.conf  and get the error of something like "Can't probe blah blah 
>while device is already running"  I do a lsmod...no evidence 3c509 (or 
>any other NIC module that I know of) is a running module.  I 
>then specifically went into network config portion of drakconf and 
>unckecked the adapter1 "enabled" button to prevent any kernel modeule 
>from being loaded.  Still a problem.  

Initializing the device, and loading the module, are two different things.

If the Pnp has already initialized it, and the settings _happen_ to not
conflict with anything, I wonder if you could just insmod or modprobe
3c509 and have it working.  Probably not a good idea.  Once isapnp sets
the parameters, the NIC module should usually pick them up automatically
(autoprobe).   Or else you put them into conf.modules....

>I've read the HOW-TO on ethernet, 
....so you already know that stuff.
>and I know it says you HAVE to turn PnP off, but I'm sure I was able to 
>get it to work under 7.0 with PnP on.  I'm FRUSTRATED!

Could be your memory is mistaken, or something else was keeping
it from working correctly....

>I've also heard of new issues with DHCP correctly setting up the hostname 
>etc. in 7.1 as compared to 7.0?  Any tips for @home users (other that the 

If you don't get immediate help on this, just search back a little
ways on this newsgroup; I know I've seen some proposed solution.

Fl.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (pug)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: NEW NVIDIA DRIVERS (Warning)
Date: 7 Sep 2000 19:43:29 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Let's put it this way...I had to MODIFY one of the files in the kernel-0.9-5 tarball 
to get it to compile.  Once I did, it choked on Quake rather quickly.  Very bad...


On Thu, 07 Sep 2000 06:41:00 GMT, Bernhard Mogens Ege <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I would be very carefull with these new nvidia drivers (version 0.9-5) 
>as I have just lost my ext2 partition due to a crash caused by these
>drivers. I am reinstalling redhat as I type this. Thank God I could
>salvage my home directory (which was renamed to something like #348753 
>and moved to /lost+found. fsck'ing my partition took about 30 minutes
>(mainly just holding return for yes (have no idea what I was asked,
>but fsck had to be run manually)). After fsck, I still had files I
>couldn't move or delete, hence me reinstalling everything.
>
>I don't know why this happened, could be that the nvidia drivers don't
>like kernel 2.2.17 for some strange reason).
>
>So my point is, be carefull and take backup of precious files.


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From: James Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Converting HD back to Windows
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 19:45:33 GMT

HI: I have upgraded my hard drive and the old 1.2Gig hard drive that I
had in my computer I want to give to the father-in-law. I copied all the
info from the 1.2gig to my new hard drive and I wiped out the 1.2 gig
with fdisk. I removed the root(mount), /user and swap with no problems.
Now when I install the hard drive into his computer it will only
register as 504meg hard drive and no bigger. I have tried partition
magic 4.0 on it and that is all it comes up with also. If I start to
reinstall linux back onto the drive to see if it sees the full 1.2 gigs,
it sees the full 1.2 gigs fine. What am I doing wrong. I have read lots
of posts saying delete the partitions in linux's fdisk and you will be
fine, I did that and still the 504megs when I try to convert to dos. The
only thing I can think of is reinstalling linux back to the way it was
before and then putting in the partition magic 4.0 rescue disk and
trying to delete it before touching it with dos's fdisk. Any idea's. The
bios in the startup of his computer finds it no problem as 1.2gigs and
configures correctly so it's not a bios problem. I have no clue on what
to do. Anybody had this problem when trying to convert back to dos?

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From: "Christopher A. Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: scsi will not load
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 16:11:54 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I can install Redhat 6.2 succesfully, but the system reboots and
> cannot see any scsi hosts, and so kernel panics.
> 
> Symbios NCR8x SCSI controller PCI card:
> 0 disks
> 
> Adaptec 7800 SCSI controller on board:
> 0 disks
> 
> Netraid 3si SCSI RAID controller PCI card:
> 8 disks @ 18Gb configured:
> 0 disks on controller0
> 4 disks on controller1
> (first two disks are RAID1)
> 4 disks on controller2
> (second two disks on controller1 and all disks on controller2 are
> RAID5)
> 
> During the install process the system correctly detects the Netraid
> 3si scsi controller and loads the megaraid driver. The disks are
> visible to the install OS, and after partitoning /boot on sda1, / on
> sda5, and swap on sda6, the OS formats the partitions and installs the
> packages.
> 
> The system then reboots and gets as far as detecting the IDE CDROM.
> Then it kernel panics because it has not loaded the megaraid scsi
> module, and therefore it cannot see the root partition on sda5.
> 
> I have used a rescue disk to access the system, and gone into the
> initrd file using losetup /dev/loop, and I saw that the megaraid.o
> driver was under /lib/modules, and I even added insmod megaraid.o to
> the linuxrc file.
> 
> The problem remains.
> 
> Does anyone have any ideas...?
> 
> Peter

Not an expert here, and not a redhat user, but do you have the correct
kernel installed.  I think that if you are going to have root (/) on a
SCSI controller, the SCSI controller support has to be compiled in the
kernel. It can't be a loadable module,  because the kernel has to mount
root first before loading modules.  The exception being, using a ramdisk
image (initrd) that is being loaded before the kernel boots, that
contains the correct modules. 

After re-reading your message, it seems that RH is using a ramdisk image
for modules.  If that is not working, then try compiling the SCSI
controller code into the kernel instead of using a module.

Also, I have not done RAID, but I think I remember reading something in
a HOWTO once about only "LINEAR" and "RAID0" is supported for the root
file system, don't know if that is still true.  But if you can do this,
then make sure the RAID code is either in the kernel or being loaded by
initrd as well.
-- 
Christopher A. Stevens
Navigation/Data Reduction

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: HELP!!!!! Need help on linux installation!!!!!!!!! Linux Newbie 
question!!!!
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:52:57 GMT

"glico" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>Hello i am a windows user but i want to give linux a try, although i can't
>afford to buy a new computer but i have bought a second-handed harddisk
>instead. 

Good idea. There's no need to buy additional HW just for a test run.

>I hope to install linux on my new second-harddisk without erasing
>the win98, 

No problem.

>how do i do that??? 

You bought a Linux distribution; these do contain a setup program
that should guide you through the whole process. Just make sure that
you do not accidentally erase or overwrite your existing Win98 
partition(s). If you installed the new HD on the same cable that
the first drive is using, then your disk must be jumpered as "slave"
drive (the existing drive must be set to "Master"). Linux will
call this drive /dev/hdb (your first HD is /dev/hda), unless you're
running the drives off of a Promise Ultra controller or similar add-on
card. Boot the system with the first CDROM in the drive; if your
system is setup to boot from a bootable CDROM, then it will start
from the CDROM and guide you through the installation from there. 

>How do I create a dual boot so that i can
>select which OS to start up with???? 

This is the default if installing Linux after Win9* .

>Also the harddisk I bought is FAT32,
>how do I change it to FAT16 so that I can install redhat linux 6.2 on it???

[...]

No need to do that. Linux doesn't have any problems in reading/writing 
FAT32 partitions. It supports FAT32 since 1997/1998, IIRC.
Besides that, you don't need any partition on that drive. Linux
uses its own filesystem, called "ext2fs" . Delete the partition.


Michael
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          Lumber Cartel Unit #456 (TINLC) & Official Netscum
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: HELP!!!!! Need help on linux installation!!!!!!!!! Linux Newbie 
question!!!!
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:56:16 GMT

Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[...]

>BTW connect the 2nd HDD as /dev/hdb (slave drive on the first IDE
>controller),
>    because some bios'es aren't able to boot from the second controller.

[...]

That's not needed. As long as LILO is in the MBR of the first drive
on the first channel, the /boot partition may reside wherever you want.

Michael
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From: "ronnie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 16:20:54 -0400

How can I find out what options are compiled into my kernel.  I know I can
look at modules.conf to see what modules are loaded but does that tell the
whole story?  Does the newer kernel have specific support for the AMD Alpha
processor and VIA kx133 chipset?



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From: erik albeda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Fdisk problem with SCSI HD
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 20:28:54 GMT


As far as I know your SCSI controller card should support software 
interrupt 13, if it doesn't, than fdisk doesn't work correctly on SCSI 
drives. 

Erik Albeda, Netherlands

Beggar wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have a Segate 18GB Ultra2 SCSI HD, after I "fdisk" it and write the
> partition to disk. It work fine without any error message, but the
> problem is that when I quit fdisk and enter fdisk again, the partition
> table does not change as I modify before.
> 
> what's the problem?? Harddisk problem or fdisk problem?  It have also
> use "cfdisk",  but with the same result.
> 
> Help!!
> 
> Dicky
> 


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From: Peter Riggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rpm-4.0
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 20:36:17 GMT

Jinghua Tang wrote:

>  Dear experts,
>
>    I was trying to install the php4.0 on my redhat linux 6.2. It says I
> need something >3, so I download the rpm-4.0-0.67.6x.i386.rpm to try to
> install it. But I the installation of this version of rpm. I failed to
> use the rpm any more. Is there any way to recover the rpm, or I have to
> reinstall the linux? Thank you in advance!
>
>   Jinghua

rpm 4 uses a different datadase to previous versions so after installation
use the command
rpm --rebuilddb  to create a new database. I am quoting this from memory
but I think it was that simple.

Regards,
Peter.



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From: "The infamous \"Brian\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: kernel 2.4.0-test7 module error
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 20:38:48 GMT

Hi Justin:

Justin Dubs wrote ...
>make clean
>> make dep
>> # make clean - Don't do this one
>> (very important with test7)
>> make bzlilo
>> (or whatever - perhaps "make bzdisk" for a test floppy)
>> make modules
>> make modules_install

>Make clean remove all binary files that have been generated thus far,
>this includes the ones you just produced in 'make dep'.  This means
>that 'make bzlilo' has to recompile them AGAIN.  This will make
>kernel compilation take a lot longer.  In other words, clean is
>undoing your dep so bzlilo has to redo it.  Anyway, just an FYI,


Make dependancies does have anything to do with binaries. All it does is
looks and makes sure all the files are available that are required to make
the build.

Making dependancies first is SOP with kernel building.

For a super-clean start, including and .config files lying around, use "make
mrproper".

You are very correct in your statement about taking much longer to do a
build after using the kernel source for earlier builds but it shouldn't
effect the first build because there should be no pre-existing binaries.

Why I was suggesting the first poster do a "make clean" is because it is my
recent experience that a fresh test7 kernel source will build a bad kernel
UNLESS it is first cleaned. I have not looked into what the problem is it's
just my experience to date.

Best regards,

The infamous "Brian"



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From: mst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP!!!!! Need help on linux installation!!!!!!!!! Linux Newbie 
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 16:40:57 -0400

glico wrote:
> 
> Yes i do attach my first HD (windows installed) to my primary IODE
> controller as Master and the Second HD (where i want to install linux on) to
> my Primary IODE controller as Slave. Driver letters are arranged as C;E on
> first HD and D;F on second HD, so do you mean linux will see my first HD as
> /dev/hda and second HD as /dev/hdb????? and do you mean I should only
> partition /dev/hdb during linux installation??? and after installation drive
> D;F will become mke2fs type instead of FAT32 is that right????? sorry for
> asking too much question because I am not confident enough to do it
> myself... ^_^!
> 

You can choose to keep 1 or more FAT partitions on the second hard
drive, if there's enough space; I assume from your description of the
drive letter assignment, that each drive has a primary and an extended
partition (Windows has weird ways to assign drive letters, so it may not
be true) - i.e. D is the primary and F the extended partition on the
second HD, correct? You could then keep D and delete F, using the DOS
Fdisk.exe, to make space, then begin the installation (sorry, cannot
help you with the RedHat install, I use another distribution, namely
Slackware) and use the free space to create a Linux partition  (actually
2 or more: a root partition - type 82, and a swap partition - type 83)
using the Linux fdisk (or Disk Druid, as I seem to recall is what RH
uses).

A little on partition names: the first partition on the second HD
(currently D) is named /dev/hdb1; the second partition will be
/dev/hdb2, etc.

If you want multi-boot with LILO, you will have to install it on the
Master Boot Record of your first HD, even if Linux is on the second HD,
and pass it the correct arguments in the configuration file,
/etc/lilo.conf

There's a lot to be said on the subject. Suggested reading:
Multi-Disk-HOWTO (nice presentation of the filesystem layout),
DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO (guidelines for beginners), Installation-HOWTO
(self-explanatory), all to be found in
http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/. Also the manual page of
LILO.

MST

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Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 23:20:11 -0400
From: johnny B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: help: glibc problems

hi

i'm running redhat6.0 with glibc 2.1.1 installed in /. i've just
compiled and installed glibc 2.1.3 in /usr/local. I still need 2.1.1 for
many binaries, including init so i cant get rid of it. But when i run
certain programs, like xmms and xmps, i get the following errors (even
after recompiling):

xmms: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: version `GLIBC_2.1.1' not found (required by
/usr/local/lib/libc.so.6)

i've rearranged ld.so.conf to search /lib, then /usr/lib and
/usr/local/lib in that order or else i cant boot up.  why do i get the
error above if glibc2.1.1 is in my library search path?

thanks
ali


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From: "Nisi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux box & Win NT Server for Inet connection
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:14:39 -0400

It sounds like you do not have your networking configured correctly, or I am
missing something. If I am understanding you right, you have two network
cards in your NT box. One network card connects to your DSL router and has a
IP address that was given to you by the DSL company. The other network card
in the NT box is for the local network. It has a LAN IP. If this is set up
this way, then all is fine. My questions are:

-Is this NT box running NT server?
-Is this the Primary Domain Controller?
-Do your other Windows computers have to log in to a domain (local  network)
to get internet access?

If you have answered yes to these, then what you need to do is this:

-configure the network card in the linux box with a LAN IP and the subnet of
your network.
-configure the domain into the Linux box and the gateway
-add the DNS to the linux box
-configure samba as a member of your domain
-add the name of the linux box to the NT server as a domain member (server)

if you are unsure on this, and this is a multi-step process, go check out
www.linuxdoc.org . read the Howto on Samba and on Networking.......

If you are still having problems, try to narrow it down a bit to a specific
task, i.e. assigning a getway to linux or assigning the DNS search order.
this way you will get a better answer.....there is just way too many
possibilities that you did not classify in your questions....
If you need more help, please let me know...go to the site below and email
me

Nisi
www.mindlessmayhem.com




C�dric CHEN wrote in message <8p3kfo$qb7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I tried to confirgure Sanba, but I am really newbie in this way and I used
>Gnomba (Gnome interface of Samba) but I found only the way to share
>directories on NT server.
>And I still not can reach the second ethernet card to have acces to Inet
(my
>connection to Inet is done thru a ethernet card with ADSL connection) the
>message is still Network not reachable  (the ip address of the second card
>is 10.0.0.10 instead of the local 128.1.0.X)
>If you have any idea of what's happening?
>Because with W98 I only indicated the IP N� of the NT server to connect to
>the second card.
>
>hoping your help
>
>C�dric
>
>Nisi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a �crit dans le message :
>8ollu1$48n$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Well, if NT is setup up as the gateway, and you are on a NT network, then
>> you will need to add your system to that network. Install Samba and setup
>> your linux box as a system on the network.
>>
>> What I believe is happening is that NT is refusing to "share" its
internet
>> connection cause your system is not part of the NT domain. That is if you
>> have set up an NT domain.........
>>
>> Nisi
>> www.mindlessmayhem.com
>>
>> C�dric CHEN wrote in message <8ojri0$qfo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> >Hello,
>> >
>> >I tried to connect a Linux station (PIII with Mandrake 7.0 distribution)
>on
>> >a local network with an NT server to have an internet connection through
>> the
>> >local network.
>> >I have the connection to the NT server (OK with ping, good answer).
>> >I indicated the IP adress of the NT server as gateway for all acces
>> networks
>> >
>> >But I don't have access to Inet :(
>> >
>> >Do I miss something? (all the Win station have only the gateway ip
adress
>&
>> >it is working, so don't know what to do)
>> >
>> >hoping on your help.
>> >
>> >C�dric
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>



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