Linux-Setup Digest #579, Volume #19               Fri, 8 Sep 00 03:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Re: HELP: XFree86 compilation woes. (dpace)
  Wierd delays (David Lee Lambert)
  Re: kernal (Dennis Lee Bieber)
  Re: Yet another Ethernet question (please help) (Dennis Lee Bieber)
  Re: help: connecting to ISP, can someone help (Mostyn BRAMLEY-MOORE)
  Linux Hang on install ("Chris Hood")
  Re: Boot Disk Cannot Find Hard Disk. (David Efflandt)
  HELP!! Linux Hangs during boot ("Jesse")
  Re: Kernel Compile Going Nowhere (Alastair Foster)
  Re: Speeding up Linux, slow computer ("Lonni J. Friedman")
  Modem Problems ("Ralph")
  Re: Token ring net card (wired)
  Re: Where is smb.conf? (Antonio =?iso-8859-1?Q?Capap=E9?= Gil)
  Re: X configuration (Richard Anggono)
  Re: kernal (A Guy Called Tyketto)

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From: dpace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: HELP: XFree86 compilation woes.
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 01:51:04 +0000

johnny B wrote:

> hi
>
> i've downloaded XFree86 version 4.01 and i'm trying to compile it. I
> keep getting errors similar to the following:
> ---------------------------------------------------
> gcc -c -O2 -fno-strength-reduce  -ansi -pedantic -Wall
> -Wpointer-arith    -I../.. -I../../exports/include  -Dlinux -D__i386__
> -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199309L -D_POSIX_SOURCE -D_XOPEN_SOURCE -D_BSD_SOURCE
> -D_SVID_SOURCE  -D_GNU_SOURCE -DX_LOCALE   -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO
> -DXTHREADS  -D_REENTRANT -DXUSE_MTSAFE_API    -DMALLOC_0_RETURNS_NULL
> -DHAS_SNPRINTF -DLIBX11    -fPIC LabGcLC.c
> /usr/include/bits/mathinline.h: In function `__signbitf':
> In file included from /usr/include/math.h:348,
>                  from LabGcLC.c:37:
> /usr/include/bits/mathinline.h:117: warning: ANSI C forbids specifying
> structure member to initialize
> /usr/include/bits/mathinline.h:117: initializer element for `__u.__f' is
> not computable at load time
> /usr/include/bits/mathinline.h: In function `__signbit':
> /usr/include/bits/mathinline.h:122: warning: ANSI C forbids specifying
> structure member to initialize
> /usr/include/bits/mathinline.h:122: initializer element for `__u.__d' is
> not computable at load time
> /usr/include/bits/mathinline.h: In function `__signbitl':
> /usr/include/bits/mathinline.h:127: warning: ANSI C forbids specifying
> structure member to initialize
> /usr/include/bits/mathinline.h:127: initializer element for `__u.__l' is
> not computable at load time
> make[4]: *** [LabGcLC.o] Error 1
>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> All the errors seem to stem from mathinline.h. what can i do about this?
>
> i've read the documentation. it says that it's preferable not to use GNU
> make, as, and ld. Could this be the problem? If it is, what other
> versions of make, as and ld can i get? (ie non GNU versions)
>
> thanks
> ali

Maybe you can find a newer version of mathinline.h that does not have
the problem. I bet it did not come with the 4.01 download.

David Pace - Free commodity/stock graphing software
and Linux links at http://www.daveware.com



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From: David Lee Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Wierd delays
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 22:58:55 -0400

I have a few problems with my Linux box.  It's being converted piecemeal
from Slackware to Debian, and has some home-grown and a lot of
home-compiled software.  CPU is an AMD K5, and the kernel is compiled for
TCP/IP with a lot of internet utilities installed.  Right now I don't have
a phone line, but the software is in place to run PPP (when I stay at my
parent's place, for instance).  It also has an Ethernet card.  Right now
the only other computer on that network is my Win95 system.  I use SAMBA
to share files, both user home directories and applications;  in fact,
most of my DOS and windows applications are stored in /usr/dosbin=G: and
/usr/winbin=H: so that I can use them under dosemu and WIne as well as
under windows on the other system.  I do telnet and X accross the network,
too.  I'm sorry that I can't quote all the software version numbers from
memory;  most of the software is a stable version, 2-4 years old.

PROBLEM 1

SAMBA works fine,  but telnet and (I think) most other Internet services
hang when I try to access them from the win95 mackine.  A lot of daemons
hang when starting up,  too;  amd would hang for two or three minutes.  I
actually can connect with telnet from the client,  if I'm patient;  if I
slowly hit [enter] a few times,  the server will eventually bring up the
login screen,  but,  if I do nothing,  it will time out and disconnect.  I
think I've traced the problem to the DNS system.  My resolv.conf looks
something like this:

# /etc/rosolv.conf
order hosts, bind
resolver 127.0.0.1

and hosts:

# /etc/hosts
192.168.0.4  ruth   # win95 box
192.168.0.5  ramoth # linux box

Utilities like ping and nslookup hang when they need to resolve a hostname
too.  named is running,  and I think the configuration files instruct it
to reproduce the same information as in hosts.  There is a zone file for
0.168.192.IN-ADDR.ARPA,  and one for 'lmert.private'.  I think the major
version number of my named is 8.  The manpage isn't very clear about my
situation.  Any advice?

PROBLEM 2

I have XFree86 running on Linux.  I tried to install a newer Debian X
server and accidentally erased some config files,  so I've been trying to
fix them.  Today I successfully ran XF86Setup,  but I don't trust the
system to xdm quite yet.  Be that as it may...  Since I last ran
XF86Setup,  I can start the X server and it runs fine.  However,  when I
quit X,  the system seems to hang (the keyboard doesn't work,  nor the num
lock key).  Even when X is running,  if I do CTRL-ALT-F1 etc. to switch to
a different virtual console,  the screen goes blank and the system doesn't
respond.  Sometimes,  after many seconds (over a minute,  it seems),  the
contents of the virtual console appear and I can continue the text session
as before.  During this time,  the system is perfectly responsive to SAMBA
or telnet,  although (as noted above) initial login with telnet is
daunting.  Killing the X sever doesn't seem to help either.

Any advice or directions to clear documentation would be greatly
appreciated.

--
DLL




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From: Dennis Lee Bieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,linux.help
Subject: Re: kernal
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 20:36:36 -0700

On Thu, 07 Sep 2000 16:07:45 +0100, Ian
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> declaimed the following in
alt.os.linux.mandrake:

> I am trying to get Linux Mandrake 7.0 running on an old 486. I get
> problems with the math emulation.
> 
        Not surprising... the Mandrake binaries are compiled for
Pentium+ class processors.

> I have been advised to compile myself a kernel. I allready have Linux
> running on a Pentium machine. I was advised to compile it on the pentium
> and copy it across onto the 486.
>
        Others can (and did) cover this. I believe you are safe as long
as you somehow "name" the kernal explicitly, so that the boot load
doesn't see it.

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 > ============================================================== <
 >   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  | Wulfraed  Dennis Lee Bieber  KD6MOG <
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 >            Home Page: http://www.dm.net/~wulfraed/             <

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From: Dennis Lee Bieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.networking,linux.dev.newbie
Subject: Re: Yet another Ethernet question (please help)
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 20:36:35 -0700

On Thu, 07 Sep 2000 19:39:21 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Flotsam) declaimed the
following in alt.os.linux.mandrake:


> I haven't _tried_ turning on PnP in the BIOS settings, but everything
> I've read says it must be disabled to use it in software.  Otherwise
> devices get initialized before software, i.e. isapnp (someday, we hope,
> Linux kernel) gets a chance at them.  Then you get "busy" signal.
>
        Somewhere, some standard definition for that BIOS option needs
to be created...

        On my system, the option "ON" state means that the final loaded
OS will do all the PnP operations. And the manual for Mandrake 7.x
explicitly advises setting /that/ to "OFF" so that the BIOS DOES set up
as much hardware as it can.

        <sigh> I long for my old Amiga's AutoConfig. AutoConfig not only
set up address ranges, but if a card needed a driver, the driver code
was in ROM /on the card/ and AutoConfig would set up the access to that
ROM code.


        Just to confuse matters... What driver does a 3COM
"OfficeConnect" 10/100 NIC use -- it doesn't ID as a any of the
905/509/etc sequences... It shows as a 3CSOHO100-TX! I think Mandrake
7.1 found it as a 905 (7.0 didn't find it at all). I've not asked as I
only used that card for a week -- to transfer all my data from a 233MHz
W95 system to a new 733MHz W98 system.

--
 > ============================================================== <
 >   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  | Wulfraed  Dennis Lee Bieber  KD6MOG <
 >      [EMAIL PROTECTED]     |       Bestiaria Support Staff       <
 > ============================================================== <
 >        Bestiaria Home Page: http://www.beastie.dm.net/         <
 >            Home Page: http://www.dm.net/~wulfraed/             <

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mostyn BRAMLEY-MOORE)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: help: connecting to ISP, can someone help
Date: 8 Sep 2000 03:51:12 GMT

>What is the standard or most common format/order of hosts?

read the NAG (network administrator's guide) at www.linuxdoc.org and you'll 
see some sample hosts files.  

m.
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From: "Chris Hood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Hang on install
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 00:09:18 -0400
Reply-To: "Chris Hood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I am trying for the first time to install Linux 6.2
I get booted up from the CD and go fine through everything until I get to
the partitioning....When I try to make any changes to the disk partition it
just hangs...
The drive came out of a Win me machine that was freshly formatted..It is 4.2
G....I even tryed the auto partition in the server install....Do I need to
format with DOS Fat 16 first because of something crazy with Millenium or is
my copy just a dud...I downloaded an ISO..

Thanks,
Chris





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.portable,linux.redhat.install,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Boot Disk Cannot Find Hard Disk.
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 04:12:37 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 7 Sep 2000 23:07:59 +0800, Roger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Ive RH 6.0 install in my laptop.I created a boot disk from RH 6.2 CD in
>another system.
>Used the boot disk (floppy) to boot in my RH 6.0 laptop and was told cannot
>find hard disk in my system.
>Must I transfer the Base and RPM files in other for the boot to find the
>hard disk?
>Thanks.
>Roger

If it is a plain old boot disk where you copied vmlinuz to the floppy, it
could be that / on this system is a different partition than / was on the
other system.  In this case you would need to use rdev to tell the kernel
on the floppy which /dev/hd is /.

I am not sure how you would boot a LILO floppy for this, but there may be
info in the lilo docs.

-- 
David Efflandt  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/  http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/  http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/


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From: "Jesse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: HELP!! Linux Hangs during boot
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 15:42:57 +1000

Hi, I have installed RedHat Linux 6.0 on my pc. It has been working fine
(for about a year now) without sound (I didn't bother setting it up) until
recently, when I decided to try to configure my sound card.  I used the
'sndconfig' program, and during setup I decided it was too much trouble (for
now) to set up, so I cancelled. Everything worked fine until I tried to
reboot Linux again. It tries to load the midi module (which it didn't do
before) and just stops...I can't get into Linux!

I just need to get into linux...can anyone help me? is there a way of
disabling some of what it tries to load? I have a boot disk, but all that
does is boot into linux, and still gets stuck while loading the midi
module...I don't think I have a rescue disk...please, any suggestions will
be greatly appreciated. Please send all your solutions/suggestions to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] asap. Thanks in advance.





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From: Alastair Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel Compile Going Nowhere
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 04:59:46 GMT

In article <8p9dtt$plf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson) wrote:

> >Maybe, but I got it from www.kernel.org and I don't think it could
> >possibly have been corrupted at my end, since I'm sure my 'net
> >connection and my hardware are perfectly healthy.
>
> It can happen sometimes. If you still have the tarball around then it
> might be worth checking the signature against that found alongside it
at
> www.kernel.org.

Okay. I'll try that.


> Some kind of other software problem is probably more likely, though.
> What distribution are you running? (Just as a point of reference ...)

I have the Mandrake distribution, currently using the 2.2.9 kernel.
Basically, I am attempting to compile 2.2.16 in order to get support for
my Zip drive, for which I understand I need kernel 2.2.14 or above.

Here is a rundown of what's on my system:
Kernel modutils: 2.1.121
GNU C: 2.7.2.3.f.1
Binutils: 2.9.5.0.31
LibC6: 2.1.1
Dynamic Linker (LDD): 2.1.1
C++ Library: 2.7.2.8
Procps: 2.0.7
Procinfo: 16
Psmisc: 18
Net-tools: 1.52
Sh-utils: 1.16
Autofs: 3.1.3
NFS: 2.2beta50
Bash: 2.03.5(1)
Ncpfs: 2.2.0
PPPD: 2.3.10
Util-linux: 2.10c
The version numbers of the above packages match or exceed the
requirements specified in the /Documentation/Changes text. Note that my
version of make is 3.79.1.

There are two other points of interest pertaining to my system:
 - /sbin/ and /usr/sbin/ are not contained in my path environment
variable. Could this be causing some trouble?
 - I have had one or two problems with 'make' in the past. It crapped
out when I tried to compile Krn (a KDE newsreader), so I'll try and
download that tarball again and if it still fails to compile then I'll
see if it gives any error that may offer some evidence as to what is
wrong.

I hope this extra information provides some clues.

--
 - Alastair Foster
http://users.netaccess.co.nz/ala/


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: "Lonni J. Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Speeding up Linux, slow computer
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 21:20:33 -0400



Jason LaPenta wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Could someone be so kind as to point me to some docs on how to speed up
> X / Linux? I bought a new Athalon 600MHz computer which is really fast,
> but X and Linux are dog'n, and I really like to speed things up. I
> benchmarked the computer and it is really fast, there is just something
> not working in the configuration.

Well, you could always recompile your kernel for a performance boost. 
Since you didn't say much at all about your system, its hard to provide
more info.

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From: "Ralph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Modem Problems
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 16:05:41 +1000

My standard external no name modem (FCC ID H52PT-3020) works well under NT4
SP6 but when I connect it to my Linux RH6 kernel 2.2.16 and run kppp to
connect to the internet I get the message that my modem is busy. What is
causing this? I'm trying to set up a firewall on my Linux box to allow my
NT4 and Win 95 computers to access the internet.

Any ideas?

Thanks.
Ralph.



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From: wired <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Token ring net card
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 08:41:38 +0200

Well I found a 'beta' driver for the lanstreamer at IBM's site, besides as far as
I can see the lanstreamer driver is already in mandrake linux 7.1...but I still
can't get it to work though, and since ISA is not an option I'll just wait till
the LAN here at work is changed to Ethernet and then I'll use that !

but thanks for trying

Rasmus

Bill Grzanich wrote:

> Hi, Rasmus.
>
> It's been well over a year since I've played with token ring, but at that
> time, none of the PCI token ring NICs were supported.  I had to replace my
> Lanstreamer with an IBM ISA card... don't remember which one now.  There were
> only a handfull of token ring cards supported, as I recall, but they were all
> ISA.  I kept hearing that the Lanstreamer was going to be supported "real soon
> now", but once I had the server up and running, I left it alone.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> -Bill
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, wired <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >I have problems getting my Token ring card to work in linux ( mandrake
> >7.1 )
> >the card is an IBM lanstreamer ( PCI )
> >The linux pc is the only non windows pc on the Token ring based LAN
> >
> >I'm kind of a newbie with linux so I've tried anything I could think of
> >to get it to work, but it doesn't help. In the detection utility the
> >card is found, but in I/O an IRQ it has -1, could it be that it is
> >conflicting with the soundcard, which by the way works fine. I've setup
> >the needed tcp/ip addresses (at least I think I have)..
> >
> >Any suggestions to what I can do to get it to work
> >
> >-
> >Rasmus
> >-
> >


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From: Antonio =?iso-8859-1?Q?Capap=E9?= Gil 
Subject: Re: Where is smb.conf?
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 06:23:45 +0000

In /etc
TheSpud wrote:

> I know this is a dumb qiestion, but where can I find the default
> smb.conf file? I tried doing a search with the RPM handlers and come
> up empty! I need to get back to the clean default file first installed
> by Red Hat 6.1.
>
> TIA
> BK


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From: Richard Anggono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: X configuration
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 18:03:07 +1100

Jonathan wrote:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   Richard Anggono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > My PC runs win98 and Redhat6.0. The Icons on the desktop and the
> panel
> > > at its bottom are very big; the width of the panel is about 3cm. I
> > > thought the problem is to do with one of the settings on the
> > > XF86config; but which one and how?
> > >
> > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > > Before you buy.
> >
> > The problem is *not* in XF86Config. This file is used to set the
> keyboard
> > type, mouse settings (number of buttons, scrolling, baud rate, etc),
> > monitor type and your screen resolution (+Xserver type).
> >
> > The icons on your desktop will depend on the window manager you used,
> > KDE, Gnome, AfterStep, etc.
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> >
>
> Yes, as you said, XF86Config includes settings for *resolution* which
> affects the size of the icons ...
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

Ahh. I see, I don't use icons on the desktop. So I assumed that Window
Mangers do provied some kind of setting to change the icon size (for the
visually impaired.... hehe).

Thanks for pointing it out.



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From: A Guy Called Tyketto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernal
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,linux.help
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 07:06:36 GMT

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In comp.os.linux.setup Dennis Lee Bieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, 07 Sep 2000 16:07:45 +0100, Ian
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> declaimed the following in
> alt.os.linux.mandrake:

>> I am trying to get Linux Mandrake 7.0 running on an old 486. I get
>> problems with the math emulation.
>> 
>         Not surprising... the Mandrake binaries are compiled for
> Pentium+ class processors.

>> I have been advised to compile myself a kernel. I allready have Linux
>> running on a Pentium machine. I was advised to compile it on the pentium
>> and copy it across onto the 486.
>>
>         Others can (and did) cover this. I believe you are safe as long
> as you somehow "name" the kernal explicitly, so that the boot load
> doesn't see it.

                *MAJOR WARNING*

        When you go to configure your kernel (make (menu,old,x)config),
and you go to specify your processor type, if you are compiling a kernel
for a 486 based machine, on a pentium, BE SURE TO SPECIFY THE 486
PROCESSOR! Apologies for the caps, but it is that important. If you
compile it on a pentium based machine, and use pentium instructions,
you're going to be S.O.L, as the 486 won't know what those instructions
are. 

        If compiling a 486 kernel doesn't work for you, at the very
least, compile for a 386 w/math coprocessor. At the very least, the 486
will see that.

        Good luck.

                                                        BL.
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