Linux-Setup Digest #597, Volume #19              Mon, 11 Sep 00 02:13:06 EDT

Contents:
  Re: boot problem ("Christopher A. Stevens")
  Re: How do I find a lib file? ("Christopher A. Stevens")
  Rookie - new 6.2 install won't boot (Abe)
  Re: RAID problem - md version? ("Christopher A. Stevens")
  Re: What is Anaconda in RH? ("Christopher A. Stevens")
  ed command not found -- Help (Gerardo Rincon)
  Re: ed command not found -- Help ("dale hites")
  Re: What is the maximum swap space?  Max RAM? ("Doug Rickard")
  ppp not quite working (Topher Cawlfield)
  Re: Linux - What Do I Need To Know? (SOMERTON KENNEDY)
  "Fatal Server Error: No Screen Found" during Installation
  Re: how to configure PPP ("Dave Stanton")
  Re: NEW NVIDIA DRIVERS (Warning) (moonie;))
  Re: 3c509 module not installing, help! (Jordan Thompson)
  Re: What is the maximum swap space?  Max RAM? (Bento Loewenstein)

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From: "Christopher A. Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: boot problem
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 22:09:32 -0400

Check your /etc/fstab file.  See if there is an entry that is trying to
mount /dev/sda1.  If so, comment it out (put # at start of line) and see if
that solves the problem.

"Allen and Erin Brandt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
> I just installed Linux on my computer. Slackware 7
>
> I compiled the kernel and copied it to /vmlinuz.
>
> I ran LILO and installed it onto the MBR.
>
> I have a scsi system that is too wierd to describe. But, at any rate, my
> setup is as follows and cannot be changed.
>
> /dev/sda1    DOS partition, tagged bootable (6)
> /dev/sda2    Linux Swap partition (82)
> /dev/sdb1    Linux partition (83)
> /dev/sdc1    Linux partition (83) (where the vmlinuz boot image is
> located).
>
> The kernel boots fine, but the following error screws up the final
> kernel load. It reads:
>
> INIT: Version 2.76 booting
> /etc/rc.d/rc.S: Testing Filesystem status: read-only file system
> Parallelizing FSCK version 1.15 (18-Jul-1999)
> /sbin/e2fsck: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open
> /dev/sda1
> (null):
> The superblock could not be read or does not describe a corect ext2 file
> system....
>
> From there the computer will only boot in some limited mode.
>
> Obviously the kernel is checking for a Linux partition on /dev/sda, but
> obviously, one does not exist because that is the dos partition and the
> swap file.
>
> How can I fix this?
>
> Thanks in Advance,
> Al Brandt
>



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From: "Christopher A. Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I find a lib file?
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 22:24:43 -0400

Well, one way is to use the find command. (do man on find).
To find a file do,
>find / -name libaw3d.so.7
this will look for your file under root (/).  But if you have a bunch of
mounted file systems and CDROMS this could take a while, so you can do
>find / -mount -name libaw3d.so.7
The "-mount" means to only search files on the mounted filesystem,
so, for example it won't look for files on a CDROM that you might have
mounted under /cdrom or any NFS mounted shares.
If you don't know the exact file name you can use quoted wild cards like
> find / -mount -name 'libaw*'

A much quicker way to find files if they happen to be in your path is to do
this
> which libaw3d.so.7





"aj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello
> I need to find the shared library libaw3d.so.7. How do I go about doing
> this?  I am using Mandrake at the moment.  The rpm does not seem to have
> a file search of many packages.
> Finding individual files has been a real problem for me.  Any help I can
> get will be appreciated.
> Thank you
>     Aaron
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Abe)
Subject: Rookie - new 6.2 install won't boot
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 02:41:38 GMT

Booted and installed from the 6.2 ISO image I burned.

My system is a Pentium pro 180.  The MB has solder pads for a 2nd CPU
socket and some versions of the board had 2 CPUs, but not this one.
Runs windows ok.

When booting from the HD installation things go down in flames this
way...

CPU0: Intel Pentium Pro stepping 09
calibrating APIC timer...
..... CPU clock speed is 179.6197 MHz.
..... system bus clock speed is 0.0000 MHz
Booting processor 1 eip 2000
APIC never delivered???
APIC delivery error (ef).
CPU #1 not responding. Removing from cpu_online_map.
Booting processor 15 eip 2000
Not responding.
Total of 2 processors activated (170.00 BogoMIPS).
enabling symmetric IO mode... ...done.
ENABLING IO-APIC IRQs
... Changing IO-APIC physical APIC ID to 2
Kernel panic: could not set ID
In swapper task - not syncing


Now, the 2nd time I didn't skip the boot floppy option and booted from
it (gosh that's painful to watch).  Things came up as I'd expect (nice
looking KDE environment).

Of course I'm interesting in solving this problem, but I'm doing this
for the education too so I'd like to know what happened.

I ran the Linux configuration tool and noticed that it was using an
option with "SMP" in it, which is probably the problem.  I suspect
(but didn't try) I could select the non-SMP option and solve this
problem, right?

So, it appears the installer incorrectly assumes an SMP box in my case
(although I'll admit my case is a strange one).  Anyone know if the
7.0 beta version does a better job here (is this a problem someone
else found and fixed)?

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From: "Christopher A. Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RAID problem - md version?
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 22:47:47 -0400

You probably don't have the md support in your kernel.  During Boot or type
dmesg and look for the md/RAID support being listed.  If not, either compile
your kernel with the support or look for a module to load (look in
/etc/rc.d/rc.modules).  On my system the module name is "linear".  You can
find these modules under /lib/modules.  There should be directory that
matches your kernel version.

"Daniel Foster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm trying to set up a RAID-LINEAR array, and have my raidtab as
> follows:
>
> raiddev /dev/md0
>  raid-level  linear
>  nr-raid-disks  3
>  persistent-superblock 1
>
>  device   /dev/hda3
>  raid-disk  0
>  device   /dev/hdb1
>  raid-disk  1
>  device   /dev/hdc1
>  raid-disk  2
>
> When I run 'mkraid /dev/md0' I get the error message:
> 'cannot determine md version: No such file or directory'
>
> Which means nothing to me.  I had a look in /dev and there were no md
> devices, so I did 'mknod -m 600 b 9 0' which I found off a search on
> Google.  I still get the same error though.  Any ideas?
> --
> I will never cease to be amazed by the human capacity for hyperbole.
>                                                 - Data
>
> Daniel Foster - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>



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From: "Christopher A. Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What is Anaconda in RH?
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 22:54:42 -0400

Don't know if this is your problem, but I had a similiar problem when trying
to instal Redhat for the Alpha on an old AlphaServer.  The problem was that
the video card was not supported under Xfree.  So when the install program
tried to switch to the Xserver, it crashed and I got a message about
Anaconda exception.  Make sure you are choosing the right Xserver for your
video card.  If no joy, try installing the "Server" (not sure of the exact
title) option.  This does not switch to the Xserver.  This installed ok for
me.


"Adam H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> I've been trying to install Redhat 6.2 on an older P166 box. Every time I
> do - near the end of the package installations, it gives me an error
message
> - something about an exception occurred in Anaconda. I'd like to know
> what anaconda is, if I need it, and where I would be able to take it out
> of the install process...
>
> I've been able to install Debian on this machine no worries, and have
> installed
> RH on numerous other machines - I don't know why it's just happening on
this
> one machine.
>
> Thanks & Regards
>
> Adam
>
>



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Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 22:55:40 -0400
From: Gerardo Rincon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ed command not found -- Help

I am trying to install Acrobat Reader. I un-tar the file and launch the
install by typing ./INSTALL, and everything goes OK until a ponit where
I get:

./INSTALL: ed: command not found
ERROR installing /usr/local/acrobat4/bin/acroread

It looks like my Linux does not understand the command ed

I have Mandrake 7.1    2.2.16-9 mdk

What do I do now?
Thank you,
-- 
Gerardo 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Reply-To: "dale hites" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "dale hites" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ed command not found -- Help
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 22:10:48 -0500

Gerardo,

1) check your /bin directory for ed, also do the command
find / -name ed. Both should show ed only in the bin directory.

2)If no ed found, you'll have to go get a tar or rpm of it

3)If it's not in your bin, check your path and verify it covers the
directory that ed is in.

4)Consider moving ed to bin after ascertaining why its not there.

Dale



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From: "Doug Rickard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: What is the maximum swap space?  Max RAM?
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 13:48:38 +1000

> I have 194 MB RAM, and I'm under the impression that larger the swap
space,
> the better, so I chose 384 MB of swap space (2x RAM).  My RedHat Linux 6.2
> runs without problems, but is this an overkill, or, is there something
wrong
> that I'm not aware of?

It depend on many things, the major ones being the number of processes you
want in memory at once, and the amount of memory each process needs. If all
your applications at once will fit in 194 MB ram, then theoretically you
dont even need any swap space. Remember the swap space is only for those
processes that cannot currently coexist in memory. e.g. if you have 20
processes, and each one needs 20 MB memory, then they will not all fit into
194 MB ram, so you will need at least another 200 MB swap space, if not
more. On the other hand, if you only have 10 processes and each takes only 2
MB, then 194MB ram is overkill, and a swap file is hardly required.

One rule of thumb is to assume that for a minimum case, assume that for some
reason all RAM could be swapped out at once, and therefore minimum size
should be 194 MB. On the other hand, if each user is doing really large data
base work, then you mau require several times that amount of swap space.

I think the best approach is the one that has already been suggested. Make
the swap file some arbitrary size. Then just monitor how much of the swap
file actually gets used. If its always full, then obviously you need to
increase the size, but on the other hand, if its always running at <10% then
perhaps it could be reduced somewhat.

If your load is always constant the above is easy to do. The real problem is
where you have a once a week massive application that chews up all your
memory. Judging how to handle that one is the difficult problem.

Doug.




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From: Topher Cawlfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ppp not quite working
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 23:08:02 -0500

Hi,

I'm having a problem with PPP on a computer using Mandrake 7.1.  I have
about 4 modem pools to dial into at the U of I, and I can only reliably
get into 1 of them (the one that's always busy at night, of course!).

Two have had intermittent problems of one sort or another, where it
sometimes connects but most of the time it dials in, modem connects,
waits a long time "logging on", and then times out.  The diagnostic
logs' last message (I'm using kppp) says something about being unable to
negotiate an appletalk protocol.  It appears to have authenticated me by
that point.

The main number that I would like to use has never worked.  Okay, it
worked once when I was trying all sorts of stuff with my hostname and so
on, but I still have no idea why and I can't reproduce that.  I can dial
in, and connect, but once connected I can't even ping any computers,
including any DNS servers.  I am given a dynamic IP address that shows
up with "route -n" (and the routing table looks fine to me).  When I
ping my own address, I see packets transmited and received, and get a
realistic round-trip time of 150ms or so.  But when I ping any other
computer (by IP address since I can't reach any DNS servers), I only see
packets transmitted every few seconds, and none received.

All 4 of these modem pools are using the same ppp and PAP software,
though the hardware is different.  I can boot into Windows 98 and
connect to all of them without any problems.  I've never before seen any
problems like the ones I'm having now, and have no idea how to even
investigate them further.  I have another (older) computer at home
running RedHat 6.2 and I have no problems with that one, either.   My
new computer is using a 3COM PCI modem, which from what I hear is the
only PCI modem that will work for Linux.  It took me some time to get it
working, but it appears to me that the hardware works, at least.

Has anyone seen problems at all like this, or even imagine what could
cause such problems?  I imagine that I might have done something stupid
when trying to get my computers set up over a little LAN here, using
EtherFast ethernet cards and a hub.  But I pretty much did the same
thing to both computers, and only one will connect to my favorite modem
pool.  I'm at a loss.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance,

  Topher Cawlfield  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])


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From: SOMERTON KENNEDY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux - What Do I Need To Know?
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 04:30:13 GMT

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"Marty P. A." wrote:
> 
> I know a few things about computers - but not Unix or
> Linux.
> 
> What is it that I need to know to install Linux?
> 
> I am currently reading the RUTE guide but without Linux
> installed it is not as rigorous - On the other hand this guide
> gives a good description of the Linux landscape.
> 
> Does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions as to what
> might be helpful reading for someone like me?
> 
> Marty

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: "Fatal Server Error: No Screen Found" during Installation
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 04:28:44 GMT

hi,

Can anyone help me.

OK, here's the problem.
I want to install Red Hat linux 6.1.
I boot the installation CD directly from my CDRW.

after checking my hardware for a minute, the installation
hangs, and it says:

Fatal Server Error: No Screen Found.

This is my first time messing up with any linux, so I have
no idea what it means.

could somebody tell me what's wrong with the installation?

Ok, here's my computer hardware configuration:

ATI Xpert 2000 32 MB.
Soundblaster PCI 128
Asus P5A with AMD K6-2 450Mhz
Sony CDRW 4x4x24
Motorolla 56K Voice modem

And I also have Windows 98 SE installed on my PC.

Please can somebody help me??

Thank you in advance

--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/

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From: "Dave Stanton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.ppp
Subject: Re: how to configure PPP
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 05:33:09 +0100


"Jack Kessler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8ph763$5uu$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> That certainly is the conventional wisdom and all the right buzzwords and
> credentials.  Yet connecting to an ISP in Windows consists of clicking on
an
> icon, entering a phone number, and when prompted, one's username and
> password, and it works every time.  In Linux one follows Unruh's 16 page
> HOW-TO line by line and may or may not get connected.  (In my case still
> not.)  By contrast, Linux has several busy newsgroups devoted to
frustrated
> users trying unsuccessfully to connect.  Sneering at paperclips does not
> make unfriendly software better than software that is easy to use.  Is an
> operating system that puts users like Nishat Shah through "a nightmare" in
> order to use it, really all that useful?
>
> Do you think it is an accident that Red Hat has to provide 30 days of
> installation support with each copy of its OS and Microsoft doesn't?

I don't think thats a fair comment !. I have had horrendous problems with
win9x, at least with Linux if the gui fails, the whole system stays stable
and does not force you to shutdown, reinstall. If the guy tries KPPP I think
he will find it very easy to setup.

Cheers

Dave




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From: moonie;) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: NEW NVIDIA DRIVERS (Warning)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 01:14:00 -0400

On Thu, 07 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.x S. Umar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Did you compile the kernel module from source rpm? I have no problems
>> using ANY of the nvidia drivers with my GeForce 256 and 2.2.16 kernel.
>> I don't think using your ext2 partition had anything to do with these
>> drivers....I think NVIDIA has done a great job putting together a
>> install FAQ....As I said I have been using 0.92 through 0.95 WITH NO
>> PROBLEMS!!! Let's be more fair.
>> -- 
>
>OK then... Let's be fair:
>
>I've used .92, .93, and .94 on my TNT2.  Within seconds of starting most
>3D apps, my computer has completely locked up on me.  Couldn't even ping
>it.  Forced a hard reboot.  Spent 30 minutes fsck my hard disk.  Once, my
>home directory was so screwed I had to restore everything from tape.  Now,
>perhaps nVidia isn't responsible for the fact that my home partition was
>screwed up, but their drivers *did* cause the lock up that led to hitting
>the power switch.
>
>Let's continue to be fair:
>
>I sent a couple messages to the e-mail address nVidia supplied, describing
>the situation.  I never got a response.  Not *one* response to that
>problem.  So, I visit the irc channel for them.  Although there were
>plenty of nice people there, *none* of them were helpful.
>
>So, in the grand tradition of being fair, nVidia blows me off as customer
>so I blow them of as a manufacturer.  They've lost a customer.  And until
>they change their attitude, I will *not* be coming back.
>
>Adam

I have gotten the drivers working with the following:

TNT on an Intel C300a, TNT2 on a K6-III/450, and my 11 year olds Cyrix PR233
with TNT2 M64 (PCI) even, with no problems (once they were up and running,
getting them up and running correctly can be tough though).  I think most
people just have trouble following the directions! (used kernels from 2.2.14
through 2.4.0-test5, haven't been able to get them to run on 2.2.17 though)
--
moonie ;)

Registered Linux User #175104
   http://counter.li.org

KDE2
Kernel 2.4.0-test5
XFree86 4.0 Nvidia .94 drivers
RAID 0 Striped
Test-Pilots-R-Us ;)


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From: Jordan Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3c509 module not installing, help!
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 05:23:40 GMT

I had exactly the same problem.  when I came up, eth0 failed to
initialize.
have you checked to see if it is actually enabled?
run netconf -> basic host information -> adapter 1
make sure the settings are correct and that it is enabled!

Hope this helps,
Jordan

Donald K Knepshield wrote:
> 
> mst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> : >
> : > Here's an interesting situation:
> : >
> : > I install Redhat 6.2 via FTP and choose the 3c509 driver for the
> : > install.  The install goes smoothly.  The system reboots.  Upon reboot
> : > the device eth0 won't install.  I found the 3c509 config and diagnostic
> : > utilities by Donald.  I used them and they worked correctly verifying
> : > that my card was at I/O address 0x300 and interrupt 10, and using
> : > 10baseT.  So, I specified in conf.modules:
> : >
> : > alias eth0 3c509
> : > options 3c509 io=0x300 irq=10
> : >
> : > and then rebooted...upon reboot I got:
> : >
> : > /lib/modules....../3c509.o insmod eth0 failed.  Delaying eth0...
> : >
> : > Do I need to compile support for this into the kernel?  It seems as if
> : > modules have been working for everyone else, can anyone help me out?
> : >
> :
> : Check if any other device uses the i/o or irq of your NIC.
> 
>         I don't think you need the options line either.
> I have a 3c509 card installed on two separate machines and in both cases
> all I had to do was set the setting in dos (irq, io, Non plug'n'pray, and
> half-duplex) and the cards worked fine.  I had conflicts for both cards and
> had to change the IRQ (sound card, and another NIC).  Sometimes a
> cat /proc/interrupt might show if something is on the IRQ (if the other
> device is in use).
> 
> --
> 
> Kevin Knepshield
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- 
=================================================
Jordan R. Thompson
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://JordanThompson.freeyellow.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bento Loewenstein)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: What is the maximum swap space?  Max RAM?
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 05:17:38 GMT

On Sun, 10 Sep 2000 22:09:41 GMT, "Arctic Storm"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>What is the maximum swap space?  Max RAM?
>There are many web sites, including RedHat, that seems to imply that the
>maximum swap space is 128 MB.  They never say that it cannot be larger than
>128 MB; they simply say that it can handle up 128 MB of swap space.
>I have 194 MB RAM, and I'm under the impression that larger the swap space,
>the better, so I chose 384 MB of swap space (2x RAM).  My RedHat Linux 6.2
>runs without problems, but is this an overkill, or, is there something wrong
>that I'm not aware of?
>By the way, what's the maximum RAM supported by RedHat Linux 6.2?
>Thanks,...
>
>From man mkswap(8):

... "In  the  old  style,  the  rest of this first page was a bit map,
with a 1 bit for each usable page of the swap area.  Since the first page
holds this bit map, the first bit is 0.  Also, the last 10 bytes  hold
the  signature.  So,  if  the page size is S, an old style swap area can
describe at most 8*(S-10)-1 pages used for swapping.  With S=4096 (as on
i386), the useful area is at most 133890048 bytes (almost 128 MB if you
believe in  1MB=2^20  bytes),"...

... "In the new style swap area this is precisely what is done.  The
maximum useful size of a swap area now depends on the architecture.  It is
roughly 2GB on i386, PPC, m68k, ARM, 1GB on  sparc, 512MB on mips, 128GB
on alpha and 3TB on sparc64".

"OPTIONS

-v0    Create an old style swap area.

-v1    Create a new style swap area.

If  no  -v  option  is given, mkswap will default to old style if the size
of the swap area does not exceed the maximum size of an old style swap
area, and also if the current kernel is  older  than  2.1.117  (and  also
if PAGE_SIZE  is less than 2048).  The new style header does not touch the
first block, so may be preferable (also if the swap area is small), in
case you have a boot loader or disk label there".

RedHat's instalation runs mkswap to initialize your swap partition, and if
it detects a space larger than 128 Mb it automaticaly selects new style,
so there's to worry about your settings.

IIRC the maximum memory for x86 systems is 2Gb of physical RAM in 2.2
kernels, but the new 2.4 series will expand this to 8 Gb or more.

Bento.


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