Linux-Setup Digest #597, Volume #20 Fri, 9 Feb 01 14:13:11 EST
Contents:
Re: RH 7.1 beta, USB tape drive and software ("Nathan")
Need help find Modem!!! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
RedHat 6.2 and Kernel 6.2 on an SMP machine ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Installing linux on VERY old computer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Is swap really needed? ("g.montgomery")
Re: Need help find Modem!!! (James D Parker Jr)
Re: Linux on Intel 386 problem (Erik Leunissen)
Re: Need help find Modem!!! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Please visit my 3D graphics site ("Robert Francois")
Re: X Window to WinNT ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Write protect windows mount (Jim Lokken)
Re: Xclock with NO title (Donald)
win98 and linux networking (Todd Ahlstrom)
Re: Setting up user account on TurboLinux ("News Reader")
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From: "Nathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: RH 7.1 beta, USB tape drive and software
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:15:21 -0500
I tried tar, cpio, Taper, and a simple backup script. They all seem to
freeze at some point in the backup process.
"John Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> What about "man tar"... ?
>
>
> "Nathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:3a82df4b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a Compaq EP with RedHat 7.1 beta (2.4 kernel) and a Seagate USB
> tape
> > drive. The system does recognize theF reecom hub and drive (/dev/st0)
and
> > it shows up in the usbview utility. All I need is some software or
> utility
> > that can write to the drive. I've attempted to use taper and Amanda
with
> no
> > success. Has anyone tried BRU with this compbination? I'll buy it if I
> > need to. I just want to know if there's a simple 'cpio' script that I
can
> > use.
> >
> > BTW, the linux-usb (http://www.linux-usb.org) web site offers no help
when
> > trying to install usb tape drives. I find this odd since usb can be
used
> > with so many devices. oh well...
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Nathan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 11:23:49 -0500
Subject: Need help find Modem!!!
I have a U.S Robotic 56K Modem:
Using Mandrake 7.1. on Pent 111 700 M.
and Win 98se.
All works fine both Windoze and Linux except
linux can't find the modem. Tried KDE and Gnome, same result. I had Warp/4
on before and the Modem worked fine.
I have the modem port set for Com4, and that may be the prob. I do have to
keep that setup.
Set it for that in Linuxconf, but no soap.
The linux hardware does not show the Modem
and all settings say busy or can't open.
I know this is vague, but maybe some one can tell me how to
find the problem or where to look.
I have the right DSN, etc settings.
Many tnx whatever!
Albert, Wa3fib.
It took me 83 Yrs to get this dumb.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RedHat 6.2 and Kernel 6.2 on an SMP machine
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 16:25:03 GMT
Hi,
I am a Linux newbie, so please bear with me.
I have a DELL 610 with 2 Intel Processors.
I have RedHat 6.2 installed and want to upgrade
to the latest kernel. How can I do this? Anyone
have pointers to resources for accomplishing this?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Sagar
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Installing linux on VERY old computer
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 16:38:24 GMT
I had a 386SX-16Mhz with 5Megs Ram and 40Meg HD notebook
that I ran Slackware during 1995-1997.
The only 'trick' was to COPY each 'floppy' directory from
the slackware CDROM (on another windows machine) to different
floppies (disk aa, ab, ...., x, ...).
Then make the boot & root disks (nowadays RedHat [or is it
a standard?] calls them Boot and Rescue -- both are same
functionally) and you are set!
I managed to fit in the regular linux kernel (before modules
were standard), the base utilities, and just the compiler
(WITHOUT the libraries).
I wouldn't dare dream of doing such with the RedHat shit.
Sarma
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Mon, 05 Feb 2001 19:30:16 -0000, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> > Whats an example of a single floppy linux?
> I'll give you three:
> Tomsrtbt ("Tom's Root/Boot"),
> LOAF ("Linux On A Floppy"), and
> LRP ("Linux Router Project")
>
> > And how can I make one or get one?
> Download it from one of a number of sites.
> For instance, take a look at the Tucows Linux 'mini-distributions'
> page (ftp://ftp.linux.tucows.com/pub/distributions/mini/) and pick
> one.
>
> > Thanks.
> > JL
> >
> >--
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> Lew Pitcher
> Information Technology Consultant
> Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group
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From: "g.montgomery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is swap really needed?
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 17:02:45 GMT
Okay Paul,
I'm buying into your explanation. I won't worry in the future
that "top" has indicated that I have 400 MB of "stuff" being
squirelled away in RAM "just in case" the application that
needed it in the first place ever gets into execution again.
I'm buying it, because it's probably just the way it is. But,
it's does not appeal to my sensibilities to have a rather
distorted view of the available memory. Let me call the
stuff that is squirreled away "trash" for the moment, and
then let me say that unless I invoke the application which
converts a portion of that "trash" into a more rapid
invocation cycle, it is indeed trash. Top is misleading,
in that I don't know what of the memory allocated belongs
to actual processes currently in execution. There ought
to be a way to have it both ways - 1. All the woulda-coulda-
shoulda stuff saved for a rainy day; and 2. Only the stuff
currently allocated for processes in execution at this time.
Of course, I can conjure up situations where this latter would
bounce up and down like a yoyo, and have in fact created
such situations (e.g., scripts on a Sun Enterprise server
which did literally thousands of separate invocations of
a small set of processes, one after the other, in which the
the shared objects used by the processes probably stayed
in memory even though the requiring process recurred
and terminated repeatedly) But there are instances where
one would like to know just how much RAM is used
without re-booting the kernel.
Maybe what I am thinking of is a tool to "clean out" all
the memory allocated to defunct processes.
Am I jousting with windmills?
Gene.
Paul Kimoto wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, g.montgomery wrote:
> > Thanks for the comment, Paul. I will note the buff and cached
> > entries in the future to see how they play into the overall picture.
> > However, I still haven't given complete voice to my concern.
> > It isn't that applications (via the operating system) claim all
> > the turf in sight, it's that when the process is killed, the memory
> > claimed is not released back. If that were to be done by a
> > specific application, I think it might be called a memory leak -
> > memory "malloc'd" and not "free'd".
> >
> > I just re-booted RH7.0 system. Before rebooting, the only
> > "application" I was running, aside from the many daemons,
> > X, and the stuff that gets run when you log onto the system,
> > is Netscape Communicator (Navigator + Messenger). Top's
> > "mem:" showed the usual 508976K ( 512M less the 8 Meg
> > for the AGP). The "used" was within 4 Meg of that amount,
> > implying to me that I had a set of whopper applications in
> > memory. But none showed up on the %MEM column,
> > save for the usual X, netscape-communicator, etc. Then,
> > I re-booted and after logging on and starting X, I showed
> > only 84 Meg used. I started Netscape, the used number
> > climbed, and then Messenger, still a little more climbing.
> > I am now sitting at 135 Meg used, and the only apps I have
> > brought in are Communicator (Navigator + Messenger).
> >
> > I would expect in a system which is operating properly,
> > that when I shut down Netscape (Navigator and Communicator)
> > and return to the status just after I had logged on,
> > started X and invoked top in an xterm, that the system
> > would return to the 84 Meg of memory used, as
> > opposed to the now 136 Meg it claims is used. To
> > my way of thinking, there is dead wood out there, if
> > I have no application that is reserving the space. The
> > application which called for the space is gone, so the
> > dibs on the memory should also be gone if the OS
> > and it's children are working correctly!
> >
> > Am I wrong?
>
> Yes, you are wrong.
>
> The amount top(1) shows are "used" _includes_ the amounts under "buff" and
> "cached". Look at the output of free(1), which shows the same quantities
> but also subtracts out "buff" and "cached" from "used" for your
> convenience.
>
> Example: Even after you shut down netscape, the images of the executable,
> its dynamically linked libraries, and other parts of the filesystem (e.g.,
> your .netscape/cache) remain cached (or maybe that's "buffered", I can
> never remember which) in memory until the system finds some better use for
> that memory. (Why should it not?) You may find that large programs (e.g.,
> netscape) start up noticably slower the first time. That's because they
> may already be (partially) mapped into memory on subsequent invocations.
>
> --
> Paul Kimoto
> This message was originally posted on Usenet in plain text. Any images,
> hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my consent,
> and may be a violation of international copyright law.
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From: James D Parker Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need help find Modem!!!
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 12:52:17 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have a U.S Robotic 56K Modem:
> Using Mandrake 7.1. on Pent 111 700 M.
> and Win 98se.
>
> All works fine both Windoze and Linux except
> linux can't find the modem. Tried KDE and Gnome, same result. I had Warp/4
> on before and the Modem worked fine.
> I have the modem port set for Com4, and that may be the prob. I do have to
> keep that setup.
> Set it for that in Linuxconf, but no soap.
>
> The linux hardware does not show the Modem
> and all settings say busy or can't open.
>
> I know this is vague, but maybe some one can tell me how to
> find the problem or where to look.
> I have the right DSN, etc settings.
>
> Many tnx whatever!
> Albert, Wa3fib.
> It took me 83 Yrs to get this dumb.
>
> <snip>
I have Red Hat 7.0 and an ISA Plug and Play US Robotics 56K Modem which I
have gotten to wrk. I used pnpdump, isapnp and setserial to get the modem
recognized. Then it was just a matter of doing dialer/modem configuration
which may be different for your Linux distribution. Is your modem ISA Plug
and Play? Repost with response to this question and I'll provide more details
if yours is ISA Plug and Play. I got the info from a web page which
discussed PCI plug and Play as well. I'll need to do some research to refind
that page.
Jim
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From: Erik Leunissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux on Intel 386 problem
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 18:46:29 +0100
Matt and Deann,
Thanks for pointing out to me an alternative distribution, requiring
less memory.
Greetings,
Erik Leunissen
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>
> Looks like you don't have enough memory for the install. I'd try Slackware,
> which should only require 8 megs for the install.
>
> "Erik Leunissen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > L.S.
> >
> > When booting my old intel 386 machine from a Linux boot diskette, it
> > locks up at a certain stage in linuxrc. The stage where the system locks
> > up is after the selection of the keybord settings, and the main linuxrc
> > menu never appears. A manual reset is needed to unlock the machine
> > (<Ctrl> <Alt> <Del> does not work anymore).
> >
> > I believe that the very stage at which this happens, could be a clue to
> > the nature of the problem (that is to more experienced Linux users than
> > me).
> >
> > Below, I've described the hardware (in case that this information is
> > relevant to the problem), which runs under exactly the same
> > circumstances under an old MSDOS 6.2 without problems (the same hardware
> > has also run under Win95 previously). The Linux distribution I've been
> > using is SuSE 6.4.
> >
> > Can the nature of the problem (more or less) be deduced from this
> > information ?
> >
> > I'd appreciate very much some advice on how to proceed,
> >
> > Thank in advance,
> >
> > Erik Leunissen
> >
> > ==== Hardware (very old stuff) =========
> > Intel 386 DX 40 Mhz
> > 8 MB RAM
> > 1 IDE hard disk 1,2 MB
> > 1 IDE/ATAPI CDROM (cannot boot from here, alas!)
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 12:55:35 -0500
Subject: Re: Need help find Modem!!!
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/09/01
at 12:52 PM, James D Parker Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I have a U.S Robotic 56K Modem:
>> Using Mandrake 7.1. on Pent 111 700 M.
>> and Win 98se.
>>
>> All works fine both Windoze and Linux except
>> linux can't find the modem. Tried KDE and Gnome, same result. I had Warp/4
>> on before and the Modem worked fine.
>> I have the modem port set for Com4, and that may be the prob. I do have to
>> keep that setup.
>> Set it for that in Linuxconf, but no soap.
>>
>> The linux hardware does not show the Modem
>> and all settings say busy or can't open.
>>
>> I know this is vague, but maybe some one can tell me how to
>> find the problem or where to look.
>> I have the right DSN, etc settings.
>>
>> Many tnx whatever!
>> Albert, Wa3fib.
>> It took me 83 Yrs to get this dumb.
>>
>> <snip>
>I have Red Hat 7.0 and an ISA Plug and Play US Robotics 56K Modem which I
>have gotten to wrk. I used pnpdump, isapnp and setserial to get the
>modem recognized. Then it was just a matter of doing dialer/modem
>configuration which may be different for your Linux distribution. Is your
>modem ISA Plug and Play? Repost with response to this question and I'll
>provide more details if yours is ISA Plug and Play. I got the info from
>a web page which discussed PCI plug and Play as well. I'll need to do
>some research to refind that page.
>Jim
***********************
Many many tnx for the reply, Jim.
It is driving me nuts, because the modem does work on
Warp OS2/4, Windows, etc with no probs.
Yes it is an ISA Plug and Play. 56K.
I do know how to configure it if I can get it recognized,
I have another machine (Pent1) and works fine on that.
How and where would I use pnpdump, & isapnp & setserial???
I am an OS/2 guy and also pretty stupid ;-((.
PS, I think the RH and Mandrake are very much the same.
Thanks again.
Albert, Wa3fib.
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From: "Robert Francois" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Please visit my 3D graphics site
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 23:31:38 +0100
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: X Window to WinNT
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 18:23:32 GMT
Im a Linux newbie but it sounds to me like you need samba.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Joerg Ettrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm searching for a tool, which enables me to get access to a NT box
> (for example running MS Office) from all my Linux and Unix (DEC)
machines.
> I heard something about "vmware" but I think this is more a tool
which
> enables me to have two operating systems on one machine (?), I want to
> have only one NT box in my network and I want to be able to access it,
> specially the MS office, under LINUX and UNIX (DEC).
>
> Can anyone help me ....????
>
> thanks in advance,
> kind regards,
>
> Joerg
>
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From: Jim Lokken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Write protect windows mount
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 12:33:13 -0600
Thanks, I'll give it a go.
Lew Pitcher wrote:
>
> On Fri, 09 Feb 2001 09:03:15 -0600, Jim Lokken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >I would like to make my Windows drive writable only by root. Any other
> >users should only have read privleges as I don't want someone learning
> >linux to accidentally mess something up on windows. If I need something
> >transferred over, I would do it as root. As root, I went to the /mnt
> >directory and did "chmod 755 windows". That command doesn't seem to
> >actually change the permissions. The only way I found to make it read
> >only was to go in linuxconf and set the read only flag. That solves the
> >first part I need by not letting joe user write to it, but it also makes
> >it so the root can't write to it. If I want to write to it, I have to
> >go back into linuxconf and change it. Something that takes longer than
> >I would like it to.
> >
> >Can someone recommend the best way to do this for me?
> >
> >JRL
>
> man mount, and look for the -o flag
>
> umount /mnt/windows
> chmod 0755 /mnt/windows
> mount -t vfat -o umask=033 /dev/hd.of.windows.drive /mnt/windows
>
> Lew Pitcher
> Information Technology Consultant
> Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group
>
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
> (Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
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From: Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Xclock with NO title
Date: 9 Feb 2001 13:54:16 -0500
Spidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Is it possible to have an xclock running with borders only and no
: title?????
: Man doesn't help.
Most likely yes but it probably depends on which window
manager you are using (gnome, kde, fvwm, twm, etc.)
Usually there is a setup file for the window manager that
will allow you to set things like no title (for example in
fvwm the setup file is .fvwmrc)
Use man to find out more about your window manager not xclock.
If you post what window manager you are using some one might
be able to better help you as well.
-Donald
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From: Todd Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: win98 and linux networking
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 18:57:04 GMT
I have my linux machine up and running Red Hat 6.1 currently. I have a
cable modem which I have hooked to eth0. I also have a win98 machine
that I would like to be able to access the internet through the cable
modem. I connected the win 98 machine to my linux machines eth1 card.
What I need to know is how to get the windows machine and the linux
machine to communicate. I am very new to linux networking, so I am not
sure how to do this with tcp/ip. Like I mentioned I have the cable
modem working fine on eth0, I just need to get the win98 machine to
communicate with eth1 and be able to access the internet. If I am doing
something horribly wrong here, excuse my ignorance. I am excited about
Linux, but I still need to have that win98 machine hooked up to the
internet for my wife.
Thanks,
Todd
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From: "News Reader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Setting up user account on TurboLinux
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 13:58:29 -0500
I did sign on as root to run turbousercfg. The user was created. It just
won't let me sign on as THAT user (or any other user besides root). I wonder
if there's other privileges thing I need to setup before that account is
active.
Thanks.
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