Linux-Setup Digest #660, Volume #19 Wed, 20 Sep 00 18:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: easy questions for a linux user w/ a little experience (Buschman)
Re: telnet problem (Zen Sorcerer)
Resetting WindowMaker to Defaults ("SM")
2.4.0-test8 with Modules and SoundBlaster (simple Question)
Re: Screw-up in Install on Win NT ("SM")
Re: IBM 60G0611 LAN adapter configuration (Valentin Guillen)
Re: RH6.2 PCMCIA Network card ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: easy questions for a linux user w/ a little experience ("bluster")
Re: Recognizing 3com 3c905c NICs Wtih FloppyFW ("bluster")
shockwave problem (root)
Boot hangs at "Loading Kernel" ("Jeff Muse")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Buschman)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: easy questions for a linux user w/ a little experience
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 20:06:05 GMT
OK as for the floppy mount, it says:
mount: /mnt/floppy is not a block device
return 32
What does this tell you? What is a block device?
Buschman
On Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:03:24 GMT, Pete <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Buschman) wrote:
>>
>>
>> OK I am trying to run Ip Masquerade on Mandrake 7.1. I tried using
>> an identical pair of 3 Com 3c905b-tx 10/100 cards but they wouldn't
>> seem to work together, but mandrake would recognize them during setup.
>>
>> I went out and bought a pair of linksys LNE100TX 10/100 cards because
>> I was advised that they worked very well in such a situation and were
>> cheap.
>>
>> OK so I rebuild the machine from scratch but Mandrake doesn't
>> recognize the cards. I find out that it requires a 'tulip' driver.
>> Mandrake offers two generic tulip drivers, but neither of them work.
>> OK so I go to linksys's site and download the correct tulip drivers.
>>
>> Now I have a couple of problems.
>>
>> a) I can't seem to mount my floppy drive. Short of restarting my
>> machine and watching carefully is there a way for linux to tell me a
>> list of the devices and what it is taging them as? (i.e.
>> HD0,Part0=hda, HD0Part1=hdb,CDROM=hdc,floppy=???)
>>
>> b) In the setup I checked supermounting. Under X i am getting errors.
>> Once I find out what linux is calling my floppy, how do I change that
>> in X? The last time I installed 7.1 I did not check supermount and
>> there was a mount/unmount entry in the drop down menu. You could
>> configure the properties of mount and unmount. Now that supermounting
>> is enabled, how do I alter those properties?
>
>You should be able to sort all of these issues out in drakconf - to
>stop supermount use 'startup services' and uncheck the box against
>supermount. Use Linuxconf to have a look at what is being mounted
>(Linuxconf--File Systems--Access Local drive) and where (floppy
>=/dev/fd0 if drive A), or just type mount at a prompt. You can mount
>drives in Linuxconf as well. The format for mounting a floppy is
>
>su -c mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
><secret>
>
>change ext2 to vfat if necessary and make sure directory /mnt/floppy
>exists first!
>>
>> c) Is the mount command for floppy the exact same as for CDROM?
>> Obvious with a different /dev/???...
>
>No -different filesystem.
>
>su -c mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom
><secret>
>
>>
>> d) I am a little confused by these kernel modules? Could someone
>> give me the low down on how they interact with the kernel? How is
>> adding a module different from recompiling the kernel? What does
>> recompiling the kernel do? I do have a programming background and
>> understand how compiling and open source code works. So i think I
>> understand, but would just like some confirmation.
>
>Modules can be loaded as/when necessary and can be swapped if memory is
>getting tight. The Kernel itself can't. By recompiling the Kernel you
>are creating one specifically for your machine without any unecessary
>bits added in so you should end up with a smaller kernel than the
>current one :-)
>
>>
>> e) How come my CDROM is called hdc or hdd instead of being called
>> cdrom like it used to? Is this the new version of mandrake that does
>> this? previously I was using mandrake 6.1 so there are a lot of new
>> things here.
>
>Looks like the sym link hasn't been set up for some reason:-
>
>ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/cdrom
>
>
>Pete
>
>
>>
>> Thanks for your time.
>>
>> Buschman
>>
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
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From: Zen Sorcerer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: telnet problem
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 20:30:08 -0000
You probably need to install the telnet-server. You DO NOT NEED to install
wu-ftpd for telnet access. I have no clue why Philip would tell you to
install wu-ftpd???
Just mount the Red Hat CD and install the telnet-server:
rpm -i telnet-server*
But keep in mind that telnet is not a good way to connect to your machine
over a network because it's unsecure. Take a look at OpenSSH
http://www.openssh.com instead.
Zen
Quiney, Philip [HAL02:HH00:EXCH] wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > hi
> > i'm newbie to linux
> > i just installed redhat 6.2, the gnome workstation version
> > however, i can't telnet to my machine
> This says it all....workstation. It dosen't install the telnet or ftp
> servers hence the problems you are seeing..
>
> Mount the RH CD and go to the /mnt/cdrom/RedHat/RPMS directory
>
> type
>
> rpm -i telnet-server<TAB> wu-ftpd<TAB>
>
> where <TAB> means press the TAB key to complete the file name.
>
> It will now work although root is not allowed telnet or ftp access by
> default - this can be changed if desired.
>
> > i get this error
> > Connection closed by foregin host.
> > i used rpm to install inetd
> > added the line
> > telnet stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/telnetd in.telnetd -b/etc/issue
> > to inetd.conf
> Dosen't help if the daemon is not installed ;-)
>
> > i looked in hosts.deny and there are no entries
> > i set hosts.allow to ALL:ALL:ALLOW
> I would revert this back to the default of empty....
>
> Regards
>
> Phil Q
>
> --
>
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From: "SM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Resetting WindowMaker to Defaults
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 15:33:42 -0500
While attempting to update the setup (look &feel) for WindowMaker, an error
occurred (no details were given) and I lost my pop-up menu. The only way for
me to get out of the X shell was to turn the machine off. On logging back
with the WindowMaker shell, I was faced with a completely blank screen, no
menu items, no icons, no access to a terminal window, and no way to reboot.
Except by turning the machine off!
My Questions -
1) Since I can log into XTerm using KDE, I'd like to restore the default
WindowMaker setup. How can I do this?
2) If I need to log out of the graphical interface, and don't have access to
the 'Logout' option, if I have access to a console window, is it appropriate
to use 'xkill'? Or is there a more suitable command?
3) Anything else I could use?
Thanks in advance.
Samir.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: 2.4.0-test8 with Modules and SoundBlaster (simple Question)
Date: 20 Sep 2000 20:23:11 GMT
OK, this should be a simple question, but the only answer I see
doesnt work.
I have a 2.4.0-test8 kernel, compiled with modules, and a SundBlaster
Audio card.
Acording to the /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound/README.modules
file I added the line
alias char-major-14 sb
to the /etc/modules.conf file.
When I just 'start' a sound application (xmcd) I get NOTHING.
No sound.
However if I then do a
/sbin/modprobe sb
from the /lib/modules/2.4.0-test8/kernel/drivers/sound directory
(Im not sure if being there is important or not), then the modules are
loaded and everything works properly.
So the QUESTION...
Since the above line doesnt work, wWhat should I REALLY put in
/etc/modules.conf to get this to work automagically?????
--
Reg.Clemens
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[ please cc me with any solution, Id hate to miss the answer in all the
stuff ging by on this list... ]
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From: "SM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Screw-up in Install on Win NT
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 15:55:12 -0500
PS I posted this earlier on the Mandrake newsgroup, and didn't get any
advice that worked for me. I've tried lilo -u, but that didn't work.
==== ORIGINAL MSG =====
Any help will be greatly appreciated here.
I installed Linux on a SMP system with a prior installation of Win NT. W/o
realizing it, I installed LILO on the MBR instead of the root partition. Now
I can't get Win NT back!!! I don't have an NT rescue disk, and I can't seem
to be able to uninstall LILO. I even tried doing an upgrade re-install of
WinNT. Is there any way I can get WinNT to run again without destroying
everything I have on my NT partitions? I'd be losing almost 2 years of work
here.
Also, because it's an SMP system, I'm unable to start up Win 95/98 and use
BOOTPART to restore my boot sector, since COMMAND.COM does not seem to like
running under a dual processor system.
I tried editing /etc/lilo.conf (results listing below). The boot process
hangs when I select 'nt' as the boot option.
I have the following boot sector files in my /boot directory. There's only
one candidate for a backed up boot sector file from Win NT. I believe it's
the one which was used when I executed lilo -u. Is it possible it was not
used, since lilo is still booting my system?
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 512 Sep 18 11:20 boot.0800
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4568 Oct 18 1999 boot.b
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4568 Oct 18 1999 boot.b
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 612 Oct 18 1999 chain.b
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 620 Oct 18 1999 os2_d.b
Thanks again, any help I can get will be greatly appreciated.
Samir.
==== LISTING FOR lilo.conf =====
boot = /dev/sdb6
prompt
vga = normal
read-only
image = /boot/vmlinuz-secure
label = linux
append = "hdc=ide-scsi"
root = /dev/sdb6
image = /boot/vmlinuz
label = linux-up
append = "hdc=ide-scsi"
root = /dev/sdb6
other = /dev/sda1
label = nt
table=/dev/sda1
other = /dev/fd0
label = floppy
table=/dev/fd0
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From: Valentin Guillen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: IBM 60G0611 LAN adapter configuration
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 20:58:16 GMT
If all else fails, open the case, pull a card out, and look at the main
chipset on the card. Then research thepart number on the chip.
Usually, any brand/model of NIC which uses the same chipset would use
the same "driver" and you could, when installing/configuring the card,
specify one of these other more popular cards which use the same chip.
Good Luck,
Valentin Guillen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: RH6.2 PCMCIA Network card
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 20:57:10 GMT
In article <8qanal$r30$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Lorenz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello there,
>
> I'm rather new to Linux, so i apologize if my question seems too
simple.
>
> I have just installed redhat 6.2 on a compaq Armada V300 laptop; it
has a
> 3Com 3c574 PCMCIA 16 bit 10/100 Ethernet card (a very common model),
and it
> seems that the card is correctly identified and initialized (the
100mb led
> on the cable turns on as Linux boots). Now i'd like to connect my
laptop to
> the network (that is, i think, loading the correct module an
configuring the
> ETH0 interface); but i don't know how.
>
> So: how should i find if this card has an appropriate module for it?
How
> should i configure the ethernet connection?
>
> Thank you for your help,
>
> -Lorenz
>
>
I just had a problem with my laptop. Make sure the PCMCIA service is
starting before the Network service. If PCMCIA starts after Network,
you will get a error 'Delaying eth0 initialization', or something like
that. I used DHCP and reserved an IP for Linuxbox let the DHCP server
do its magic. badda boom
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "bluster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: easy questions for a linux user w/ a little experience
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 17:10:06 -0400
Buschman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> Now I have a couple of problems.
>
> a) I can't seem to mount my floppy drive. Short of restarting my
> machine and watching carefully is there a way for linux to tell me a
> list of the devices and what it is taging them as? (i.e.
> HD0,Part0=hda, HD0Part1=hdb,CDROM=hdc,floppy=???)
to see which device files are linked by /dev/cdrom /dev/floppy etc....
ls -l /dev
To list the partitions on a drive use "fdisk -l" e.g. type:
fdisk -l /dev/hdb
to list the partitions on the primary ide controller, slave drive.
floppy drive device file names:
fd0 = first floppy (DOS A:)
fd1 = second floppy (DOS B:)
ide device file names are standardized in linux and assigned as follows:
hda = ide0 - drive0 (primary ide controller, master drive)
hdb = ide0 - drive1 (primary ide controller, slave drive)
hdc = ide1 - drive0 (secondary ide controller, master drive)
hdd = ide1 - drive1 (secondary ide controller, slave drive)
partition numbers are appended to the raw device name, e.g.:
hda1 = first partition on primary ide controller, master drive
hdc4 = fourth partition on secondary ide controller, master drive
> b) In the setup I checked supermounting. Under X i am getting errors.
> Once I find out what linux is calling my floppy, how do I change that
> in X? The last time I installed 7.1 I did not check supermount and
> there was a mount/unmount entry in the drop down menu. You could
> configure the properties of mount and unmount. Now that supermounting
> is enabled, how do I alter those properties?
I don't know about Supermount, but the mount/unmount commands use the
settings in the /etc/fstab (File Systems TABle) file, these can be
viewed/changed in linuxconf, go to the "filesystems-local drives" section
and click on the list to see properties for a particular entry, or the
/etc/fstab file can be editied by hand, for info on what to put in there
type "man fstab".
> c) Is the mount command for floppy the exact same as for CDROM?
> Obvious with a different /dev/???...
The un/mount commands use the settings in /etc/fstab so the mount commands
can look the similar, in fact if fstab is good you need only type the mount
point OR device file name not both e.g. "mount /mnt/cdrom" will work since
the mount command will look up the rest of the info (dev file, filesystem
etc.) in fstab. Un/mount command line settings will override those in fstab
e.g. if you type "mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt/dosflop" mount will use the
msdos filesystem and mount the first floppy (A: in DOS) onto the
/mnt/dosflop dir regardless of the settings in /etc/fstab.
> d) I am a little confused by these kernel modules? Could someone
> give me the low down on how they interact with the kernel?
I don't know the low levels (yet), but modules are pieces of the kernel
executuable (binary) which have been separated from it (compiled separately)
so they can be loaded/unloaded into active memory on demand.
This is done using the insmod (install module) and rmmod (remove module)
commands.
Other module utilities include: modprobe, depmod, lsmod, check the man pages
of these commands.
Most modules are hardware device drivers (e.g. mouse, NIC, sound)
and can be added to enable new hardware without recompiling the kernel.
> e) How come my CDROM is called hdc or hdd instead of being called
> cdrom like it used to? Is this the new version of mandrake that does
> this? previously I was using mandrake 6.1 so there are a lot of new
> things here.
Most systems put a symbolic link called cdrom into the /dev dir for ease of
use. If the /dev/cdrom link is not there you can create it with the ln
(link) command
(as root) type:
_ make a symbolic link
/ _ existing file to link to
/ / _ link name
/ / /
ln -s /dev/hdX /dev/cdrom
where hdX is the raw ide device file of your cdrom e.g. hdc for a cdrom on
the secondary ide controller, master drive.
hope this helps!
bluster
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From: "bluster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Recognizing 3com 3c905c NICs Wtih FloppyFW
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 17:25:18 -0400
I just got the new version of FloppyFW and it included support for 3c509
I just gave it my IP info and it booted fine, ID'd both my 3c509's without a
problem :-) I got the image from:
http://www.zelow.no/floppyfw/download/floppyfw-1.1.1.img
hope it works for you!
bluster
kjbecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:At8y5.811$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Dear List,
>
> I am attempting to install two 3com 3c905c NICs on an
> old 586 PC for use as a firewall using the FoppyFW distribution
> (runs off a single floppy). I downloaded the 3c509 driver (supports
> the 3c905c NICs I am told) module from the FloppyFW website,
> added it to the modules subdirectory, and added the name of
> the module to the modules.lst file using DOS EDIT. However, after
> booting from FloppyFW I find that ifconfig does not recognize
> eth0 and eth1; suggesting the module is not loading. When I
> check the two NICs under DOS using the 3link-id.exe utility from
> 3com, both cards and their details appear.
>
> I am at a point on the learning curve somewhere between newbie
> and intermediate and have simply run out of ideas. Does anyone
> have any experience getting 3c905c NICs to work and if so what
> did you have to do? How does one normally use modules? Do I
> have to use rawrite on the module in any way? Any and all comments
> will be appreciated. Sure would like to get this project moving again.
>
>
> Respectfully,
> Ken Becker
>
>
>
>
>
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: shockwave problem
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 08:56:08 +1100
I have installed shockwave 4.o as per the instructions. looking in about:plugins
reports that the shockwave plugin is there.
but I get the "Shockwave not installed" error when loading a shockwave page.
Any hintas from any one?
TIA
Julian
Linux Newbie since 1995
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From: "Jeff Muse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Boot hangs at "Loading Kernel"
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 16:10:18 -0700
Help!
I just recompiled the kernel on my OpenLinux eDesktop 2.4 system from 2.2.14
to 2.2.17 using bzImage. Since this is something I don't do often, I
followed the directions in "Running Linux".
Everything went smoothly until I went to boot into the new kernel image. The
first thing I noticed was that where I previously had three operating
systems (OpenLinux eDesktop, OpenLinux eServer, and Windows) listed as
choices on Caldera's startup screen, I had to press <Tab> to list my
options. When I selected the new "Linux" option, the display hung partway
through "Loading Kernel". Several periods were displayed after the loading
message, and then nothing else happened. The hard drive light was on for a
while, but then even that stopped.
Using my boot disk got me back to the system the way it was when I first
installed it, with none of the changes that I had made since. Mounting the
Desktop partition onto eServer got me the same thing.
I have several questions.
1) Why did lilo's display change when all I did was point it to a new kernel
image?
2) Why is the boot hanging, and how do I fix it?
3) How can I get my files back (I never deleted or overwrote anything)
without re-installing and restoring from back-up?
Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
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