Linux-Setup Digest #660, Volume #20 Mon, 19 Feb 01 04:13:07 EST
Contents:
Linux with Intel 815 chipset (MooJoo)
Re: Thanks- to all who replied to "is it possible to move linux files on C:(msdoss
to hda2 ? (Peter B. Steiger)
LILO Boot Problem (Suzanne Dunphy)
Re: Will upgrading my glibc rpm hose my system? (Peter B. Steiger)
Re: Help for ATA 100 !! (Suzanne Dunphy)
Re: Installed RH7, Win98 no longer boots (Brian)
Re: LILO Boot Problem ("Fu")
Re: KDE won't start (2000Q4) (Olivier Robert)
Fresh inst. of RH6.2 on Mirror/Stripe RAID (Genesis)
Re: Logs telnetd & ftpd (Michael Heiming)
Power Management Problems (jeff)
HPLaserJet 6L ("Zayin Krige")
Re: file systems with errors at boot ("Eric")
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From: MooJoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux with Intel 815 chipset
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 05:13:36 GMT
I have a Dell Dimension that uses the Intel 815 chipset. I purchaed
RH7.0 and installed it before I found out that it doesn't support the
chipset. This was late last year. Is anyone aware of an available driver
that supports this yet?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter B. Steiger)
Subject: Re: Thanks- to all who replied to "is it possible to move linux files on
C:(msdoss to hda2 ?
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 05:37:30 GMT
On 18 Feb 2001 22:42:24 GMT, Oldbehr sez:
>thanks everyone for your help. It worked - however I now understand that when
>one mounts c: as a directory that operations on that directory effect C: it is
>not some how a copy - dont know why I thought it was! just to make you laugh a
>bit i did an rm -rf * and deleted nearly all files on C:!!! hours of fun Linux
>- still I learning fast.
{grin} been there, done that. My big problem is still the way rm
takes an unlimited number of parameters. You say "DEL * {space}.BAK"
in DOS and it can't understand sending two parameters - * and .BAK
so it gripes at you and quits. You say "rm * {space}.BAK" in Linux
and it will happily delete all files (the * part) and try to delete
BAK before telling you there is no such file.
One of these days I'm going to download the source to rm and
put in about three layers of "Are you sure? Are you really REALLY
sure?" protection for idiots like me who accidentally skip a space
when trying to delete only some files.
It takes me back to 1981, when I was first learning this wacky
new system called PC-DOS and wanted to delete all the files in
my subdirectory - but I couldn't get rid of these two files . and ..
no matter how hard I tried. After typing DEL . and DEL .. over
and over for twenty minutes, I went back to the root directory
and couldn't figure out how all THOSE files had disappeared
when all my DEL commands took place in the subdirectory.
Peter B. Steiger
Cheyenne, WY
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From: Suzanne Dunphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LILO Boot Problem
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 00:38:34 -0500
Here is the situation.
I have a system with the Promise Ultra100 controller and two harddrives,
one on each channel of the controller (/dev/hde and /dev/hdg). I have
Windows2000 on /dev/hde. Linux is installed on /dev/hdg with root on
/dev/hdg7 and boot on /dev/hdg5. LILO is installed on /dev/hdg5 which
is /boot.
NT Loader loads when the system is started and gives me the choice to
run either Windows2k or Linux. The problem is when I choose linux it
gives me "LI" and nothing else. I was told by somebody it had to do
with LILO not wanting to look at the second physical HD for the second
stage bootloader. This doesn't quite make sense to me since the first
stage bootloader is located on the second physical hd but eitherway I
was wondering if anyone had a fix?
Thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter B. Steiger)
Subject: Re: Will upgrading my glibc rpm hose my system?
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 05:56:39 GMT
On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 20:29:47 GMT, Steve Martin sez:
>Frederic Faure wrote:
>> >I've found a higher version of the glibc on the Redhat web page, but
>> >before I install it, I want to know the consequences. If I install, say
>> >'glibc2.1.92-14', is this going to break my existing programs or require
>> >me to do a complete upgrade?
>Actually, that's kind of what I meant when I recommended an "upgrade".
>I didn't actually mean to do the distro's "upgrade" install... just to
>get a newer distro. Mea culpa for the linguistic imprecision.
>
>I have in fact had some bad experiences in doing Red Hat's idea of
>an "upgrade", problems that did not appear when doing a straight
>"install".
But for Linus' sake, don't EVER uninstall glibc. Back when I was
first trying to get vpn to work through my IP Masquerade, I read that
I needed a new kernel. But in order to install the new kernel (I was
on RH 6.2 at the time), I had to install a new rpm. In order to
install a new rpm, I had to upgrade glibc... or something like that,
it's all part of a partially buried memory that will take years of
therapy to sort out. Anyway, somewhere along there I got the
bright idea of first uninstalling glibc before installing the newer
version, thinking that this way I would prevent conflicts. RPM
was only too happy to oblige, when I told it --nodeps, and before
it was finished the entire OS was toast. I never knew how many
binaries - those essential for basic operation - rely on external
libraries! In my little procedural-programming-DOS world, the
whole functionality is wrapped up in the EXE (I'm still suspicious
of those newfangled DLLs) and you can safely delete library
add-ons because of course you only need them when you're
compiling new executables, right?
Because the whole system shut down abnormally, the file
system was left unstable. Because the file system was unstable,
I couldn't even reinstall RH because it said I had to remount and
run fsck, which I couldn't do because glibc was gone... oh,
the humanity! I think I finally kludged a way to make fsck work
by getting to the command shell hidden behind the RH install
program, but it took about 15 hours of nonstop hacking to get
there.
All of which is a long way of saying, listen to Steve. Don't just
replace glibc, or half the programs that depend on it will break.
And when RPM tells you that removing or upgrading a package
will cause others to fail, it's right.
My wife still laughs her head off and reminds me of that nightmare
whenever I tell her how much more stable and reliable Linux is
than Windows. Yeah, well, at least Linux only crashes when I
tell it to!
Peter B. Steiger
Cheyenne, WY
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From: Suzanne Dunphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Help for ATA 100 !!
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 00:59:03 -0500
Not true at all. I boot linux of an Ultra66 and Ultra100 card from Promise on
two different systems. You just half to tell the kernel about the other two ide
channels by booting like this: linux ide2=a,b ide3=c,d where a,b,c, and d are
memory addresses you get from looking at the /proc/pci file (or lspci).
Rick Duval wrote:
> I've read in other newsgroups that it doesn't support ATA-100 as boot
>
> --
>
> Rick Duval
> canoffroad.net
>
> "Mark Phalan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:ULSj6.2727$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Are you sure that you have put the hard-drive onto the first IDE channell.
> > Linux won't be able to detect your hard-drive if it is on the third or
> > fourth chanells except with a kernel recompile. Also is your board RAID
> > enabled? If so make sure that you configure the correct harddrive to be
> your
> > boot harddrive.
> >
> > Ralph H. Stoos Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > All,
> > >
> > > I have recently acquired a Athlon 1 Gigahertz with and ASUS A7V
> > > motherboard and a half Gig of RAM (and other stuff) in the hopes of
> > > making a killer Linux box which of course will accomplish any task
> > > instantly. Last night I sat down to install Redhat 7.1beta with 2.4
> > > kernel..
> > >
> > > The motherboard is set up to use primary and secondary ATA 100
> > > interfaces (of which I have one connected to a 30 gigger) and also
> > > another set of interfaces for primary and secondary plain old EIDE
> > > drives. You would think on the surface that you could connect up to 8
> > > drives all told.
> > >
> > > Here is how I am set up. I have the 30 Gig ATA-100 drive set as primary
> > > master and there is no ATA-100 secondary drives at all. As the EIDE
> > > Secondary Slave I have a TDK 16X burner.
> > >
> > > When the system boots, I get the standard Award BIOS message as it
> > > discovers EIDE drives. It does detect the CD-ROM. Then, it launches a
> > > special ATA-100 detector program and sees the 30 gig as the Primary
> > Master.
> > >
> > > It will not boot the CD to install so I made a boot disk and tried
> > > that. I get the Install screen from floppy but after all is said and
> > > done, it reports that it finds no drive to install on in the machine.
> > >
> > > Please tell me I just need a special ATA-100 driver on the boot disk or
> > > a version of Linux supports ATA-100.
> > >
> > > Please reply to the group but also:
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > >
> > > Ralph
> > >
> >
> >
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From: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installed RH7, Win98 no longer boots
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 06:30:07 -0000
RESOLUTION: I fixed it, but I don't know exactly how, and I don't know why
it broke in the first place, but here is what I did in case anyone wants
to know:
My 20 GB drive was originally set up like this:
Windows FAT partition 8000 MB
Linux /Boot partition 16 MB (LILO installed here)
Linux Extended Partition
Linux /Swap 64 MB
Linux /Root what's left, ~ 9GB
When I tried to upgrade to RH7, I think I unwisely instructed the
installer to place LILO in the MBR, instead of the /boot partition. After
that, I started getting the "Verifying VMI Pool Data" hang when booting to
Windows. This may have screwed up the partition table or something in
there that Win needs to boot.
I decided to reinstall RH 7, one last time before totally wiping my drive
and trying over. This time I installed with the "expert" option instead
of the regular "workstation" install. I performed a custom install and
pretty much put every package that is on the Red Hat CD on my computer.
But the key thing that I think made Windows boot again was that I re-
partitioned with FDISK during the RH installation process. Disk Druid
didn't allow me to specify cylinders, so, in FDISK, I removed one cylinder
from the end of the Windows partition (down from 1022 to 1021) and moved
the linux /boot, /root, /swap partitions down accordingly. I did this
based on a theory that maybe the RH7 required a larger /boot partition and
therefore LILO wasn't fully below the 1023rd cylinder. That's probably not
true- but hey, I was desperate.
Anyhow, during the installation I specified that LILO was to be installed
in the /boot partition and NOT the Master Boot Record (MBR). This is
critical, I think, because Windows doesn't like not owning the MBR. After
I rebooted LILO came up and I was able to boot into both Windows and Linux
just fine. I think that when I altered the partitions, FDISK must have re-
set the partition table in the MBR and that a corrupt partition table was
the problem in the first place.
Now I only have one issue- if I set Windows (it actually comes up as DOS
in LILO but that can be changed in Linuxconf) to be the default boot OS,
then I get an error. It says something about not finding a disk image or
something like that. I haven't resolved this yet. Nevertheless, I can
still boot both OS's just fine, and I can still mount the Windows
partition from linux. No data appears to have been destroyed from windows
when I altered the partition, and I consider that to be luck.
Brian
Brian wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> This sucks. I have/had a dual-boot system with Windows 98 and Red Hat
> 6.1, using LILO to boot. I performed a workstation-class install of Red
> Hat 7, which went flawlessly. It even detected that I wanted to dual-
boot
> with a DOS partition. However, when I opt to boot into DOS the screen
> says:
>
> Verifying DMI pool data
>
> ...and then the cursor stops and blinks on the next line. It does not
> boot. I have tried the following:
>
> 1. lilo -u (this causes my system to stop at "LI")
> 2. booting with a Windows boot disk (get to the "verifying..." line and
> stops, and I made sure BIOS boots from A drive first)
>
> I think that if I could just get back into Windows I could "fdisk /mbr",
> and restore the MBR, but I can't even get in with a boot floppy! Any
> ideas on how I can get back into Windows?
>
> thanks,
> brian
>
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From: "Fu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO Boot Problem
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 01:45:56 +0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Suzanne Dunphy"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here is the situation.
>
> I have a system with the Promise Ultra100 controller and two harddrives,
> one on each channel of the controller (/dev/hde and /dev/hdg). I have
> Windows2000 on /dev/hde. Linux is installed on /dev/hdg with root on
> /dev/hdg7 and boot on /dev/hdg5. LILO is installed on /dev/hdg5 which
> is /boot.
>
> NT Loader loads when the system is started and gives me the choice to
> run either Windows2k or Linux. The problem is when I choose linux it
> gives me
> "LI" and nothing else. I was told by somebody it had to do with LILO
> not
> wanting to look at the second physical HD for the second stage
> bootloader.
> This doesn't quite make sense to me since the first stage bootloader is
> located on the second physical hd but eitherway I was wondering if
> anyone had a fix?
>
> Thanks
this web site should provide a solution.
http://www.littlewhitedog.com/reviews_other_00011.asp
in short it tells you to copy the boot sector of your linux partition into a
512 byte file and store it on your windows drive. you then point the win2k boot
manager to the file so it can load linux.
read before trying or you might have to re-install you linux. especially
since may or may not apply your particular partition arrangement.
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fu
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: KDE won't start (2000Q4)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Olivier Robert)
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 06:54:59 GMT
Keith Walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Log out to a text screen and type 'switchdesk KDE' without the quotes
> and then start X again.
I didn't do it that way, but I saved this trick. Thx :-)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Fresh inst. of RH6.2 on Mirror/Stripe RAID
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Genesis)
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 07:23:23 GMT
Hey,
I am trying to install RedHat 6.2 on Mirror/Stripe RAID,
there are no other disks in my box.
There are 4 four 20 gig disks in the RAID, and 40 gig total
capacity in RAID.
I am using a Promise FastTrak100
The installer gets to the point of asking what class of install
I want and then when I click next, it says that there are no suitable
devices to install to.
Is it possible to do a fresh install to RAID?
Is it possible to do a RAID only system?
Do I need a disk to install to, then RAID the others...?
If I do that can I get it to be totally RAID afterwards?
Could someone direct me to the appropriate documentation for
what I want to do?
Maybe a description?
Thanks,
Genesis
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 08:34:10 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Logs telnetd & ftpd
Jeff Moore wrote:
> I am trying to find the connection logs for telnetd and ftpd. I have
> read the man for syslog, telnetd, and ftpd and I have not seen any
> reference to the logs. Are there such logs, or do I have to write some
> script for this?
>
> I am using RedHat Linux 7.0 with a static IP and I keep getting ftpd:
> FTP session closed, and telnetd: ttloop: read: Connection reset by
> peer, in my syslog, but I have found no way to trace the logins. I am
> debugging the server now and I am interested to know if some client on
> my lan is doing this somehow, or if someone from the internet is
> responsible. I am rotating and expiring my accounts and passwords, so I
> do not think I have any security risk, but I would like to be able to
> trace this syslog entry.
>
> I have two clients on my lan that are running Napster that have caused
> problems for my server in the past, but I think I have gotten all the
> bugs worked out with it. I am also running Yahoo Messenger, Aol,
> Netscape AIM, and Dialpad on my lan with two clients, but I cannot tell
> if they are the cause.
>
> Any comments or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Jeffrey Moore
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err... what list?
Hello,
you can increase the loglevel for ftp and telnet from where it's started,
mostly inetd.
read man ftpd and man telnetd
edit your /etc/inetd.conf to your needs and reload inetd.
Good luck
Michael Heiming
Please don't crosspost so much.
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From: jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Power Management Problems
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 02:13:52 -0600
I'm running RH7 on a Dell Optiplex GX1. I'm having a problem with it
auto suspending the system. If it's left alone for a while, the drive
powers down. I started to notice that the first time I try to POP in and
check my mail, or initiate SSH, it hangs for 30-40 seconds - I assume to
"wake up" the drive.
I do not have X-Windows installed, the apmd is disabled, and I have
disabled power management in the BIOS. Any help would be greatly
appreciated!!!
Thanks,
Jeff
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From: "Zayin Krige" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HPLaserJet 6L
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 10:15:27 +0200
Since I've installed 2.4.0, my hp laserjet 6l stop printing after a random
number or pages. no errors, nothing. spool file is still in
/var/spool/lpd/lp, and lpc status tells me that it is printing, when
actually its not.
any ideas?
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: file systems with errors at boot
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 09:32:13 +0100
> One thing that may be happening is that the device is slowly dying on
> you. That is the most common cause of file system errors that do not go
> away.
>
Don't be too eager to throw that disc out.
post the output `fdisk -l /dev/hd[ab]`
Windows(or actually a bad partitiontable) can very well be the cause of
this.
Eric
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