Linux-Setup Digest #674, Volume #19 Fri, 22 Sep 00 11:13:09 EDT
Contents:
boot linux from lan ("robert zhang")
Re: Reinstall Question (aflinsch)
How to use 3Com ISA Ethernet Card ("Andrew Werden")
Re: Unable to run XWindows (Peter T. Breuer)
Re: easey peasey questions ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Viruses hazards? (ziman)
Re: easy questions for a linux user w/ a little experience (Dr. Christopher S.
Fortin)
System Logger ("Teck Meng, Liaw")
Re: How to use 3Com ISA Ethernet Card ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Implications (Andreas K�h�ri)
Re: easy questions for a linux user w/ a little experience ("Peter T. Breuer")
suse 6.4 cannot execute binaries? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How to use 3Com ISA Ethernet Card (Hotel Balderdash)
Re: suse 6.4 cannot execute binaries? (Christopher W. Aiken)
installation problems with RH ("jhuman")
Re: samba / nt problem (NAVARRO LOPEZ)
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From: "robert zhang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: boot linux from lan
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 08:12:53 -0500
Is there a way to boot linux from lan network, or how does the boot from lan
(in bios setup) work at all?
thanks
-robert
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From: aflinsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Reinstall Question
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 09:13:22 -0500
John Thompson wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Hi, I am thinking of reinstalling Windows 98 SE on my dual boot machine
> > and I was wondering if anybody knows if it will write over the boot
> > sector and make my Linux unbootable.
>
> Yes, it will.
>
> > If it does that, does anybody know
> > what I should do to put LILO back there without having to reinstall the
> > Linux all over again, I've got Red Hat 6.1 on a 350Mhz Amd-K6 Compaq.
>
> Make sure you have a bootable linux floppy. After you install
> Windows, boot linux from the floppy and re-run lilo to write lilo
> back into the boot sector. If you've added or deleted partitions
> or want to boot the Windows partition from lilo, edit your
> /etc/lilo.conf appropriately before you run lilo.
>
Also, if you have added or deleted partitions when installing windows,
you will need to check out your fstab also since the partition names
won't be the same anymore.
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From: "Andrew Werden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: How to use 3Com ISA Ethernet Card
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:26:33 GMT
I've just loaded Redhat 6.2 on an old Gateway 166 previously running NT 4.0.
Linux does recognize the 3Com ISA Etherlink III card (model 3C509B-TPO). It
neither starts the ethernet adaptor, nor recognizes any interrupts for it.
Any idea how I can get my network card working?
/Andrew
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter T. Breuer)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.redhat.install,alt.comp.periphs.videocards.matrox
Subject: Re: Unable to run XWindows
Date: 21 Sep 2000 18:17:21 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: hangs there after displaying the usual text mesages and then the screen
: goes blank. I cannot use CTL+ALT+DEL or CTL+ALT+BKSPC to exit Linux or
: XWindows. One other thing that I noticed was that Windows 98 detected
: the display card as standard PCI VGA, but when I installed the Matrox
: display drivers, it worked fine.
: So what could be wrong here.
Show us the output from X -probeonly (or whatever your server is) and we may
be able to guess.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: easey peasey questions
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:59:14 GMT
On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:47:45 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>1. what is the best software for mounting my psion revo on my linux OS.
>(yes I have read PSION How To)
> 2. Is there anything that downloads the pictures from my digital
>camera (Olympus C420L)
>3. Is there any way to get my cheap winmodem (connexant HCF) to work?
>4. if Q3 is no, would an AMR modem be any better?
How much does a real modem cost? What is your time worth? You will
probably find that it is cheaper in the long run to go buy a real,
supported modem than to screw around with some brain dead winmodem.
>5. Any software out there like Mathcad?
>6. any software out there for 3D drafting (I'm a design engineer)?
Visit SAL (Scientific Applications on Linux). There are all kinds of
math and drafting programs out there. How good, and what user
interface they use, ... will be variable.
A good matlab clone is octave. A good stats language like S is R.
Gord
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Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 17:04:26 +0300
From: ziman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Viruses hazards?
Hi all
Well, I'm pretty new to this Linux thing, I've just installed RedHat 6.2
on my home PC and I'd like to know if there are any viruses or hacking
hazards that I should take precaution against? Is there any anti virus
software
that I should use?
Plus- Is there any way to use my wheel button on my Microsoft Wheel
Mouse to
scroll pages?
Thnx!
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Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: easy questions for a linux user w/ a little experience
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (parared)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dr. Christopher S. Fortin)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:08:06 GMT
I seem to recall that Buschman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> Wow! That was a great post bluster. thanks for taking time out of
> your day to try and help a newbie.
>
> I am still unable to mount the floppy. I always get the same error no
> matter what or where I try and mount it.
>
> mount: /mnt/floppy is not a block device
> return 32
>
> I have no clue what this means. I have thried changing the name of
> the drive, the device, the mnt, the filesystem. Everything. But
> still the same message.
< disclaimer, this from a RH6.2 background, but I expect Mandrake 7.1 to
be similar >
OK, ..
1 ) does you /etc/fstab have a line like
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto noauto,owner 0 0
if not, put it in.
2 ) check that
> ls -al /mnt
total 34
4 drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 Sep 7 13:46 ./
4 drwxr-xr-x 28 root root 4096 Sep 8 08:19 ../
2 dr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 2048 Apr 28 06:55 cdrom/
4 drwxrwxr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 6 1996 floppy/
4 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep 7 13:44 zip1/
16 drwxr-xr-x 2 fortin local 16384 Sep 19 09:09 zip4/
ie make sure that /mnt/floppy exists and is a directory.
3 ) notice the "auto" in 1 above. That means that the mount cmd will
try to figure out what kind of fs you have on the floppy. Actually,
what fs *do* you have on the floppy? If it is ext2 (Linux) you should
be able to, as a regular user, type
> mount /mnt/floppy
and it will automagically work. If the floppy came from a windows box,
the vfat or msdos fs support must be compiled into the kernel, or
available as a module. Anyone know it Mandrake 7.1 includes this
support by default?
The "not a block device" sounds like you might have "/dev/fd" rather than
"/dev/fd0" in your fstab.
Good Luck,
Chris
--
Dr. Christopher S. Fortin, PhD EE Scientist@BBN [keyserver.pgp.com:11371]
"So now the tape drive is sitting out in the yard, and I have to replace
the tape drive and the window I threw it through."
-- Paul Tomblin in the Monastery
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From: "Teck Meng, Liaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: System Logger
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 12:19:20 +0800
Hi!
I manage to get my Red Hat 6.2 up, and finally also get my network work
correctly. Since then I have a few system services seem to taking a very
long time to up during boot process, one of them is System Logger. The
whole boot process normally take less then a minute to boot, but now the
System Logger take up 4 to 5 minute before the boot process go to next
services. Is this normal? Is it have anything to do with the network
installation, right now I have no workstation connected to the server yet.
How can I speed up the boot process like I have before?
Thanks in advance.
Thomas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: How to use 3Com ISA Ethernet Card
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:09:54 +0200
Andrew Werden wrote:
>
> I've just loaded Redhat 6.2 on an old Gateway 166 previously running NT 4.0.
> Linux does recognize the 3Com ISA Etherlink III card (model 3C509B-TPO). It
> neither starts the ethernet adaptor, nor recognizes any interrupts for it.
>
> Any idea how I can get my network card working?
>
> /Andrew
first thing to do is to get the 3c509 out of the PnP mode.
3com has 2 installation diskettes on their site. boot from your windows
bootdisk and use the second 3com install disk to run 3c5x9cfg.exe. make
sure you disable pnp and reboot. first write down the IRQ and IO
settings!
second thing to do is to setup your internet-settings in RH. i don't
remember what the programme is called, but it's that handy config tool
that comes with RedHat. (what's it called again?)
remember to fill in the io-adress like this: io=0x300 (substitute 300
with the actual io. IRQ is optional as you will see.
if you filled it al in correctly, you should be able to ping your
localhost (no response? NiC is not properly installed, check the io).
good luck!
Niels
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.software.config-mgmt,comp.software-eng
Subject: Re: Implications
From: Andreas K�h�ri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 22 Sep 2000 16:34:53 +0100
In article <%0Iy5.12646$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
paul snow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Implications
>========
>
>So suppose that you are required to come up with a model that explains not
>only what your software does (which various OO technologies do with varying
>success), but also where your software comes from.
Your software comes from you.
>This requirement would
>force you past the von Neumann model, where the program store P defines the
>execution environment E:
I fail to see the connection to the von Neumann model.
The program store does not define an execution environment.
>
> P --> E
>
>Non-trivial computer systems are constructed from a collection of
>software, installed in some order.
If you're not talking about microcode, cache protocols or the like,
then I would say that this is nonsense. The complexity of a computer
system does not depend on e.g. the operating system it runs.
>So in non-trivial computer systems, there always
>exists some independent definition of P. Call this definition X.
>
> X --> P --> E
>
>Furthermore, X is not generally a single source. If X is a disk image
>applied to the hard drive (the P of a computer system), then X may in fact
>be a single source. But usually it isn't.
(void)
>
>So X is made up of a set of components representing the number of installs n
>required to build up P in a given computer system.
>
> X = {X(1), X(2), X(3),...,X(n)}
>
>Our current software architectures do not model X. In fact, they doesn't
>tend to model installation and integration at all. IT spends 75 percent of
>their money in this area, but it doesn't seem to be important enough to
>study.
Eh, what's "software architecture"? I know that the hardware
architecture does not model X (the software). That's because it's not
its task.
>
>With open software, modeling X is even more important, since the various
>components of X come from different sources, and in many different releases
>and versions. Understanding and modeling how this is done will lead to
>better solutions and mechanisms for software development and distribution.
Buggerit.
Why do we want to model software?! Please, tell me! Oh, don't bother
BTW, I just killfiled you anyway so I won't see your answer.
>
>Fun Implications
>===========
>
>This math may remind some (those with a biological background) of DNA. It
>should. I would claim that all process based systems are forced into this
>model, by definition. X forms the DNA for a computer system. Genes are the
>components of DNA, much like some X(i) is a component of X.
>
>Thus there is a very literal genetic component to computer systems because
>both a living cell and a computer system are process based systems.
>
>The genetic nature of computer systems can not be circumvented.
>
>Really Fun Implications
>===============
>
>So software is defined by the "genes" of a computer system, the installation
>medium. That means that a software package, like what I might buy at a
>computer store, represents genetic material.
That is a valid picture of it, yes.
>
>The biological term for the exchange of genetic material is... sex.
Ok.
>
>Adding software to my software library is a literal form of computer sex.
Whatever turns you on.
>
>So all along, our computers have been using us to spread their genetic
>material, like bees.
No. Computers are, by definition, unable to use anything. It has no
free will and can not think. It can't plan or spread its software or
write license agreements or produce new operating systems. A computer
will do whatever you tell it to do. If you tell it to do whatever it
wants to do, you must first tell it about the options it has. It's an
it. It will always be limited.
>
>We are also their agents for developing new genetic material, and we are the
>environmental agents that supply the developmental pressures that drive some
>genetic material to extinction, while other material (like Linux perhaps?)
>flourishes.
Nope.
>
>And most of the alternatives to Linux require people pay for their
>software...
>
>
>Paul Snow
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
Intresting views, but really off topic.
*plonk*, sir.
What a strange person...
/A
--
Andreas K�h�ri, <URL:http://hello.to/andkaha/>. Junk mail, no.
========================================================================
What part of "GNU" did you not understand? <URL:http://www.gnu.org/>
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: easy questions for a linux user w/ a little experience
Date: 22 Sep 2000 13:57:46 GMT
In alt.os.linux.mandrake Buschman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I am still unable to mount the floppy. I always get the same error no
: matter what or where I try and mount it.
: mount: /mnt/floppy is not a block device
: return 32
We are still unable to see what you are typing as a command in order to
cause this error to appear. Whould you mind reporting it, please?
:>> configure the properties of mount and unmount. Now that supermounting
:>> is enabled, how do I alter those properties?
Turn OFF supermount.
Look, it's simple: To mount your device you make a mount point for it,
like so:
mkdir -p /mnt/floppy
Then (possibly as root), you give the command to mount it there:
mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
That's all. That was for a formatted floppy. If you want to see if the
device is working, just blatt it without mounting it. Something like
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/fd0 should nicely erase your floppy (as root).
Of course, a floppy has to be in the drive when you do this, the drive
itself must not already be mounted, etc. etc. etc. Let us make use of
your eyes and report the state of the machine and the error messages
(from /var/log/messages) to us, so that we can share in your
information.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: suse 6.4 cannot execute binaries?
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:29:38 +0200
hi all.
i've just downloaded StarOffice 5.2 ,but SuSE 6.4 won't execute this
binary. (so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin). according to SUN, i should try to
enter this (so-5_2 etc.bin) at the command line, but all i get when i do
so is a a bash prompt saying "command not found".
if i enter " . so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin at the command line, there is
some activity for a minute of two, but afyer that all i get is a message
that the binary could not be executed.
i tried to download so5.2 twice, so I don't think the .bin is corrupted.
does anyone know how i can get SuSE to execute this .bin, of is there
another way i should try to install it?
thx in advance,
Niels
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hotel Balderdash)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: How to use 3Com ISA Ethernet Card
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:48:17 GMT
# modprobe 3c509
# vi /etc/conf.modules
alias eth0 3c509
:wq
# ifup eth0
# ifconfig -a
HB
On Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:26:33 GMT, "Andrew Werden"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've just loaded Redhat 6.2 on an old Gateway 166 previously running NT 4.0.
>Linux does recognize the 3Com ISA Etherlink III card (model 3C509B-TPO). It
>neither starts the ethernet adaptor, nor recognizes any interrupts for it.
>
>Any idea how I can get my network card working?
>
>/Andrew
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher W. Aiken)
Subject: Re: suse 6.4 cannot execute binaries?
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:01:26 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:29:38 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
->hi all.
->
->i've just downloaded StarOffice 5.2 ,but SuSE 6.4 won't execute this
->binary. (so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin). according to SUN, i should try to
->enter this (so-5_2 etc.bin) at the command line, but all i get when i do
->so is a a bash prompt saying "command not found".
->
->if i enter " . so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin at the command line, there is
->some activity for a minute of two, but afyer that all i get is a message
->that the binary could not be executed.
->
->i tried to download so5.2 twice, so I don't think the .bin is corrupted.
->
->does anyone know how i can get SuSE to execute this .bin, of is there
->another way i should try to install it?
->
->thx in advance,
->
->Niels
Try adding "./" ( w/o qutes ) to the front of your bin file.
(i.e. ./so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin )
--
---
Christopher W. Aiken, Scenery Hill, Pa, USA
chris at cwaiken dot com, www.cwaiken.com
Preferred O/S: Debian Linux 2.2
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From: "jhuman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: installation problems with RH
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:04:33 -0400
I'm trying to install rh 6.2 onto a tecra 510CDT labtop and I already have
5.2 on there but everytime I put the disk in I get "LI" , only half of the
lilo prompt instead of the intro screen for 6.2. I know I have seen this
somewhere but forgot what to do to bypass it and install 6.2. Any help
would be appreciated..
thx in advance,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: NAVARRO LOPEZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: samba / nt problem
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:54:57 +0200
Glitch wrote:
>
> NT says that all the time to me when im at school. NT sucks at
> networking, OR the sysadmin doesn't knwo what to do. I hooked my laptop
> up to the school's network and i opened up network neighborhood and what
> do i see? Only one domain, the one I use at home. None of the school's
> domains showed up. I waited a few minutes and checked again. Now a few
> domains did show up but not all. Waited a few more, same thing. Waited
> again and some more showed up but others disappeared. What hell kind of
> network is this? I click on a computer to acces, the one right next to
> me and NT says the share isn't available. IT SHOULD BE, there is nothing
> wrong. I wait and try again, now it works for some reason.
>
> basically NT can't handle networking I think. I cant help u fix it as I
> didnt even do anything at school but wait and hope nt would finally tell
> me i could do what i wanted.
>
Basically you don't understand what are you doing. Instead of some
flaming words you should think if you do know what are you talking
about. Then, I would consider about understanding how the resources
discovering on a SMB/CIFS network goes, and after that I would suggest
asking the sysadmin about the wins server IP address.
Just the same as using NetBT broadcast discovering on a LAN with more
than 5-10 PCs is a waste of bandwith, is talking on a newsgroup about
things noone is interested about.
--
SALUD,
Jes�s
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