Linux-Setup Digest #678, Volume #19 Fri, 22 Sep 00 19:13:11 EDT
Contents:
Re: converting bootdisk to loadlin zimage (Mickey Stein)
Re: Boot error messages, how can I pipe them to a file (Martin 2000)
Re: No Idea why this lilo.conf works! (Bill Unruh)
eth0 Promiscious mode (Alex Rier)
HELP: lilo not booting Win98 (Adam Lewis)
Re: Implications (Andreas K�h�ri)
Re: Can't login! Was I cracked? (Cory Phillips)
setting video mode with 'vidmode' ("Corey Wirun")
dhcp client and server on same box? ("Corey Wirun")
Re: monitor frequency out of range (Clive DaSilva)
Re: Clueless newbie can't install modem (Clive DaSilva)
Re: ISAPNP ad1816 sound card problem (Clive DaSilva)
Re: HP4500 print driver (Clive DaSilva)
Re: Linux having trouble with Athlon/Thunderdbird? (Jaffar)
Multidrives, Multipartitions, Multiboot: Best Way ("Patrick Bartek")
Re: Implications ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
About ALS007 Sound Card Install. ("dewang")
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From: Mickey Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: converting bootdisk to loadlin zimage
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:17:33 -0700
How about trying the opposite of one of the ways those
diskettes are created? I don't know if you're familiar
with 'rawrite' but I've used it to create image diskettes
for linux boot, rescue, etc. The complement to rawrite
ought to be 'raread' (I've never tried it) but it claims
to make an image file from a diskette. Raread is available
at the URL below and might be worth a try. If not, then
I'm sure the dd command from linux will probably work as
well. Once you get an image file you should be able to use
loadlin and have it be identical to booting the disk (I
think :)
http://www.tavi.co.uk/os2pages/rawrite.html
hth
Mick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
> I've got a bootdisk that works and is unusual in
> that respect, since I have a system with MicroChannel,
> a SCSI controller not in use, and my hard drive is
> neither IDE nor SCSI but is ESDI.
>
> I would like to use loadlin to boot from DOS, but
> I can't seem to convert my bootdisk into something
> that works. I tried removing the first 106 bytes
> (comparing it to a zimage that does boot with loadlin
> showed that the first 106 bytes of a boot disk are
> a header of some type) but that was unsuccessful.
>
> I would compile a new kernel however when I boot up
> via floppy and install the proper device files for
> ESDI drives, I can mount the main Linux partition,
> create and delete files in it, but not (get this)
> read or write them. They are all "not found".
>
> Any suggestions?
> uwuh
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: Martin 2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Boot error messages, how can I pipe them to a file
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 20:30:03 -0000
Allen and Erin Brandt wrote:
>
> Hi, I just compiled a new kernel. It boots fine, but it tries to install
> a bunch of stuff that I didn't put in. For instance, it tries to install
> all this PCMCIA stuff, when I never asked for that when I did 'make
> config'. So I get a bunch of errors that fly past the screen 'unresolved
> dependencies' and the like.
>
> How can I get a text file of all these boot messages so that I can try
> to resolve them?
>
> Thanks,
> Al Brandt
Dont listen to them! dmesg ) file is your friend... I cant write a greater
than char, but wtf.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: No Idea why this lilo.conf works!
Date: 22 Sep 2000 20:39:17 GMT
In <8qg9vl$g0e$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>On install of RH6.2, I specified to put lilo in the "first partition
>of the hard drive" because I heard that the existing lilo that ships with
>RH6.2 has the 1024th cylinder problem. I have linux installed on a 15GB drive.
>I'm still a bit puzzled.
So, what did you have installed in the MBR to actually boot up the
system? Something has to have been there and it looks like it was LILO.
How did it get there?
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From: Alex Rier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: eth0 Promiscious mode
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 23:22:48 +0200
Hi,
I want to develop a sniffer using libpcap.
It opens eth0 in promiscious mode.
I don't want to run my sniffer as root.
How can I configure eth0 to be able to run my sniffer
as a regular user? (Without using suid root)
Thanks,
Alex Rier |
Linux Consultant | Tel: +972-52-442549
Breakthrough Ltd. | FAX: +972-3-5364060
http://www.breakt.co.il | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: HELP: lilo not booting Win98
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adam Lewis)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 21:02:25 GMT
I've install linux a dozen times on different machines, and this is the first
time LILO has not been able to boot a Win98 partition. I installed RedHat
v6.1. I have two hard drives: One IDE (with linux installed) and one SCSI
(with win98 installed). I have /boot mounted on one partition, and / (root)
mounted on another (both on the IDE drive).
Here is my lilo.conf file: (any ideas?)
boot = /dev/hda
timeout = 50
linear
prompt
default = linux
vga = normal
read-only
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
image = /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.12-20
label = linux
initrd = /boot/initrd-2.2.12-20.img
root = /dev/hda6
other = /dev/sda1
label = win98
table=/dev/sda
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.software.config-mgmt
Subject: Re: Implications
From: Andreas K�h�ri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 22 Sep 2000 23:19:25 +0100
In article <8qgdcb$mma$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Andreas K�h�ri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In article <%0Iy5.12646$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> paul snow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Implications
>> >========
>> >
>> >So suppose that you are required to come up with a model that
>explains not
>> >only what your software does (which various OO technologies do with
>varying
>> >success), but also where your software comes from.
>>
>> Your software comes from you.
>
>I don't write every program I use, and I know I didn't write every
>program he uses.
Then I feel that choice of forums were a little bit misleading.
>
>>
>> >This requirement would
>> >force you past the von Neumann model, where the program store P
>defines the
>> >execution environment E:
>>
>> I fail to see the connection to the von Neumann model.
>> The program store does not define an execution environment.
>
>Your machine is off. You turn it on. Something executes. What
>defines that something?
Ah.
>
>>
>> >
>> > P --> E
>> >
>> >Non-trivial computer systems are constructed from a collection of
>> >software, installed in some order.
>>
>> If you're not talking about microcode, cache protocols or the like,
>> then I would say that this is nonsense. The complexity of a computer
>> system does not depend on e.g. the operating system it runs.
>
>Huh? I can't for the life of me figure out what he could possibly mean
>here.
He? You mean me?
I mean that the software does not make the machine. The only ware that
makes a machine into what it is are the small routines implemented
into the ROM. Without protocols for maintaining cache coherence an SMP
wouldn't be an SMP. Without the microcode, the Motorola 68000 would
never have been able to execute the early Mac OS.
>>
>> >So in non-trivial computer systems, there always
>> >exists some independent definition of P. Call this definition X.
>> >
>> > X --> P --> E
>> >
>> >Furthermore, X is not generally a single source. If X is a disk
>image
>> >applied to the hard drive (the P of a computer system), then X may
>in fact
>> >be a single source. But usually it isn't.
>>
>> (void)
>>
>> >
>> >So X is made up of a set of components representing the number of
>installs n
>> >required to build up P in a given computer system.
>> >
>> > X = {X(1), X(2), X(3),...,X(n)}
>> >
>> >Our current software architectures do not model X. In fact, they
>doesn't
>> >tend to model installation and integration at all. IT spends 75
>percent of
>> >their money in this area, but it doesn't seem to be important enough
>to
>> >study.
>>
>> Eh, what's "software architecture"? I know that the hardware
>> architecture does not model X (the software). That's because it's not
>> its task.
>
> X is the set of software that can be installed on a computer system.
> P is the set of installed software in a computer system.
> E is what you get when you turn your computer system on.
>
>I get the impression that he didn't have a clue.
That's me again, isn't it?
Do you have a clue? *I* don't know how much IT companies invest in
various areas, and I don't know where you get your numbers from.
Why do we want to model X?
>
>> >
>> >With open software, modeling X is even more important, since the
>various
>> >components of X come from different sources, and in many different
>releases
>> >and versions. Understanding and modeling how this is done will lead
>to
>> >better solutions and mechanisms for software development and
>distribution.
>>
>> Buggerit.
>>
>> Why do we want to model software?! Please, tell me! Oh, don't bother
>> BTW, I just killfiled you anyway so I won't see your answer.
>
>Everything we do is patterned around some model of the problem. That
>is what math is, a model of the relationships between concepts. If you
>can prove things about the real world using mathmatical models, you can
>reach the moon.
>
>My claim is that we have a big integration, development, and deployment
>problem with software. And we do not have an appropriate model of the
>problem. Why would we need such a model? Well, so we can make
>progress, do things better, understand what and why we do what we do.
I did a Deja-search on you and found a lot of this... I'm going to cut
a little...
[cut]
>>
>> Intresting views, but really off topic.
>>
>> *plonk*, sir.
>>
>> What a strange person...
>
>Thanks.
I'm truly sorry, but I wish I had a reference to an article that you
might like (or is it a book?). "The Selfish Gene" (I don't have the
name of the author here right now). It's about how our genes are in
fact using us as a vessel. It sounds something like what you wrote in
that last part of your original post. Make a web search, you ought to
find it.
Good night all.
/A
--
Andreas K�h�ri, <URL:http://hello.to/andkaha/>. Junk mail, no.
========================================================================
What part of "GNU" did you not understand? <URL:http://www.gnu.org/>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cory Phillips)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: Can't login! Was I cracked?
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 21:12:41 GMT
Don't know why you couldn't telnet to your machine, but you might look
at /etc/hosts.deny and see the there is a entry that would keep you
locked out such as "ALL : ALL".
On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:19:14 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike
Frisch) wrote:
>On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 03:40:33 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>So, today I'm telnetted in from work, all is fine. I go in and out
> ^^^^^^^^^
>I hope you really meant you "sshed". telnet is bad news when it comes to
>security. If you're not using ssh, consider it!
>
>Mike.
>
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From: "Corey Wirun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: setting video mode with 'vidmode'
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:07:15 -0600
Hi All,
When I was testing a new kernel, I did a 'make bzdisk' to throw the test
kernel on a floppy. I also wanted this kernel to change the video mode on
startup, so I did a 'vidmode -v /dev/fd0 7' to change the mode.
Now that the kernel is on my hard drive, how to do I do this so the hard
drive kernel also changes the video mode?
My kernel file is /boot/vmlinux-2.2.16-21
I would have thought that 'vidmode -v /boot/vmlinux-2.2.16-21 7' would have
worked...?
Thanks in Advance
Corey.
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From: "Corey Wirun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: dhcp client and server on same box?
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:14:04 -0600
Hi all,
I've got a 2 NIC'd redhat 6.2 box with a 2.2.16 kernel. One card (eth0)
gets it's own dhcp address from my ISP over a ADSL line. The other card
(eth1) is a DHCP server which serves addresses in a specific range to
computers on my local LAN. Right now, both NICs work: I still get the
external address and client boxes running WinNT, etc are able to get an
address from Linux, but they can't get through to the internet through ping,
etc.
But, I can't ping to the outside even from the linux box itself. Default
routes missing perhaps?
Does anyone have an example of a dhcpd.conf file that allows me to this?
Ultimately, this machine is going to be a firewall, but not if I can't get
'through' it to the outside world.
Thanks in Advance!
Corey.
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From: Clive DaSilva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: monitor frequency out of range
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 18:20:18 -0400
hmmn eddie
if i was in your shoes, i would boot from a bootfloppy (that way the
Xwindows does not come up), and run xf86config to re-do your
Xsettings.
btw wonder why its a bad idea to start X at bootup ? *grin*
good luck
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I set my monitor frequency too high in Xconfigurator and now all I get
>is a message from my monitor telling me that it is out of range. I
>can't change anything because my monitor won't show anything but this
>message. Is there anyway out of this? I know that I should not have
>been randomly messing around with out paying attention to my Hf and Vf
>but done is done.
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
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From: Clive DaSilva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Clueless newbie can't install modem
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 18:27:24 -0400
Hi there
first thing, is the modem a winmodem because they don't work with
linux. If it isnt, then its probably a plug and play modem, which you
have to help linux detect. There is a utility called isapnp which I'm
sure comes with Redhat 6.(9??? -- whoa). Best bet is to do a search on
the net using the term isapnptools, or read your redhat docs, becasue
its a lil too confusing to explain here, but its a GREAT LINUX
LEARNING exercise ;))
good luck
"LabRat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>I've checked with RedHat and my modem manufacturer as well as
>linux.org and tuxedo.org
>
>My problem is this: I've got Linux RedHat 6.9 and a 56k Voice ISA
>modem made by ACEEX (www.aceex.com) . They tell me that during
>setup Linux will detect and give options for which modem is present.
>This was not the case!
>
>How do I configure the modem in RedHat and use dial up to verify?
>Any Man pages, links, or txt's greatly appreciated.
>
>Thank you for reading,
>LR
>
>P.S. I'm new to the Linux groups (obviously). If there is an FAQ
>could it or a link to it be posted please?
>
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From: Clive DaSilva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ISAPNP ad1816 sound card problem
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 18:33:38 -0400
Hi Pieter
ok, another device is using 0x220. try this ..cat /proc/ioports and
you will see what device is using this address. edit /etc/isapnp.conf
and use another address, an unused one. I had this problem when i went
from slackware 3.6 to 7.1
good luck
Pieter van Beek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have an ad1816 pnp sound card, and RH6.0, kernel 2.2.5
>
>The problem is, it won't play a sound. The mixer works, though, I can test that with
>the microphone.
>Below, there's some more information about what I found out so far. Does anyone knoe
>what could be going on here?
>
>Pieter van Beek.
>
>when running isapnp is run, it complains:
>
>Board 1 has Identity 2f ff ff ff ff 81 71 93 04: ADS7181 Serial No -1 [checksum 2f]
>isapnp.conf:64 -- Fatal - resource conflict allocating 16 bytes of IO at 220 (see
>isapnp.conf)
>isapnp.conf:64 -- Fatal - IO range check attempted while device activated
>isapnp.conf:64 -- Fatal - Error occurred executing request '<IORESCHECK> ' ---
>further action aborted
>
>After removing the (CHECK) option in the corresponding line in isapnp.conf, it works:
>
>Board 1 has Identity 2f ff ff ff ff 81 71 93 04: ADS7181 Serial No -1 [checksum
> 2f]
>ADS7181/-1[0]{Analog Devices AD1816A}: Ports 0x220 0x388 0x530; IRQ5 DMA1 DMA3 -
>-- Enabled OK
>
>Loading the module goes fine, too:
>
>Sep 14 20:48:59 node1527a kernel: ad1816: AD1816 sounddriver Copyright (C) 1998
>by Thorsten Knabe
>Sep 14 20:48:59 node1527a kernel: ad1816: $Header: /home/tek/tmp/CVSROOT/sound21
>/ad1816.c,v 1.28 1999/01/16 19:01:36 tek Exp $
>Sep 14 20:48:59 node1527a kernel: ad1816: io=0x530, irq=5, dma=1, dma2=3, isadma
>bug=0
>Sep 14 20:48:59 node1527a kernel: ad1816: detect(530)
>Sep 14 20:48:59 node1527a kernel: ad1816: detect() - Detected OK
>Sep 14 20:48:59 node1527a kernel: ad1816: AD1816 Version: 1
>Sep 14 20:48:59 node1527a kernel: YM3812 and OPL-3 driver Copyright (C) by Hannu
> Savolainen, Rob Hooft 1993-1996
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From: Clive DaSilva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HP4500 print driver
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 18:35:47 -0400
Sam
I would check www.freshmeat.net for printer drivers. Or you could get
a program there called apsfilter which configures your printer setup
with a neat install menu.
good luck
Samuel McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I just got a new HP4500 color laser and would REALLY like to print to it
>from Linux. Does anybody know where I can get an appropriate driver?
>Or if not, is it possible to print to it through my Win2000 machine? Or
>is there any way to get the appropriate specs so I can hack a driver
>myself?
>
>
>Thanks in advance for any help,
>
>Samuel McClure
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Jaffar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux having trouble with Athlon/Thunderdbird?
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 00:45:08 +0200
In data Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:24:26 -0400, Carlos Moreno ha scritto:
>I heard from a friend of mine that I always thought
>was knowledgeable in Linux, that the Athlon CPU does
I`ve a firend with an athlon 500 from 1 years circa, SuSE (and others
SO), and I don`t heared about problem
--
Ciao!
Gian Matteo
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From: "Patrick Bartek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 22 Sep 2000 14:54:41 +0900
Subject: Multidrives, Multipartitions, Multiboot: Best Way
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I have two HDs that I want to setup to multiboot DOS6.22/Windows3.11,
Windows98, and Linux. Linux would be the primary OS. What would be
the best way to configure these drives?
One drive is 3.1 gigs; the other 6.4. Both IDE. The system is a 133
Pentium with 64 megs of RAM. I was thinking of 2 or 3 partitions on
the 3 gig drive, one each for each MS OS with the 3rd partition as
either swap for Linux or future needs. The 6.4 drive would have 3
to 4 partitions: a small root, home, usr and swap, if I didn't put
swap on the 3 gig drive. I would like to leave room for future use on
this drive as well. So, would it be better to use logical partitioning
on it?
What about a separate var partition? Is it really a good idea, say
for safety sake, or is it fine as a directory in the root (or
another) partition?
Also, give me some ballpark size estimates for the various partitions.
The primary use would be for learning Linux and system administration,
etc., leading to setting up small business office networks, mail and
web servers, etc. So, I would like the setup as closely as practical
to that end.
Recommendations?
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.software.config-mgmt
Subject: Re: Implications
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 22:53:07 GMT
In article <%0Iy5.12646$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"paul snow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[
> Adding software to my software library is a literal form of computer
sex.
Ah, that would explain that thoroughly fscked feeling I get when
clicking through a EULA. And people think I'm joking when I tell them
our network is a clusterfsck. It really is by your definition.
Gotta go, I'm busy installing Norton's new Condoms for Windows. Can't
wait for the lubricated version to get out of beta....
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "dewang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: About ALS007 Sound Card Install.
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:34:52 +0800
How can i install als007 sound card under redhat 6.2?
Thank You.
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