Linux-Setup Digest #683, Volume #19 Sat, 23 Sep 00 15:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Lilo Problems ("cloud")
Re: Ok..."Delaying eth0 initialization"?? ("Nathan Bell")
Re: How to adjust kde display (Michael Iwaki)
Re: linux on a floppy ("Mr. Bean")
Re: Lilo Problems (b1qcxc82)
Re: Lilo Problems (Josef Oswald)
Re: Implications ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: linux on a floppy ("William Alexander Segraves")
Re: Lilo Problems (E J)
Re: PM and LILO problems!!!! (E J)
Re: linux on a floppy (Josef Oswald)
Re: HELP: lilo not booting Win98 (E J)
Re: Linux having trouble with Athlon/Thunderdbird? (Carlos Moreno)
Re: Linux on ZIP Floppy? ("David Turley")
Re: PPTP question between Linux server and W2000/NT4 client ("Paul Soares")
Re: Can't login! Yes, I was cracked. (Jim Marshall)
Re: Linux, Win2K, 2 hard drives, & MBR's ("Jim Harback")
Re: converting bootdisk to loadlin zimage ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Automated linux reboot (Mark R. Holbrook)
Xfree86 4.01 installed but mouse very jerky ("valkyrie")
Found it! (Re: Ok..."Delaying eth0 initialization"?? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "cloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Lilo Problems
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 16:19:18 GMT
hey,, hoping you can help with some lilo problems i am having
when i start lilo i get LIL- and it just sits there..... any clue why,,,
and also,, how do you create the lilo boot disk once inside Linux (not
during setup)
Thanks
Patrick
*&&Linux convert in training
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From: "Nathan Bell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: Ok..."Delaying eth0 initialization"??
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 12:44:07 -0400
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8qh98n$m8o$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Now, my eth0 isn't coming
> up. It keeps saying "Delaying eth0 initialization", but what does that
> mean? Delaying it til when, and why? Where do I look to see what I
> changed? This happens if I use linuxconf to restart the network
> service, or if I use netcfg to attempt to activate the eth0 interface
> (and also during boot time).
My RH 6.2 laptop does the same thing but it eventually brings the interface
up.
What kind of ethernet card is it? Is it a pcmcia card? Type 'dmesg', does
it give any extra information? What does /var/log/messages say?
you can try to bring up the interface manually with:
ifconfig eth0 YOUR_IP broadcast YOUR_BROADCAST netmask YOUR_NETMASK
for example
ifconfig eth0 128.61.32.230 broadcast 128.61.32.0 netmask 255.255.255.0
then type 'ifconfig' and see what happens.
if you want to see where your eth0 is being initialized try
grep "eth0" /etc/rc.d/*
Hope that helps.
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From: Michael Iwaki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to adjust kde display
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 16:43:56 GMT
I tried to run xvidtune by logging in as root, getting into /usr/X11R6/bin
directory and then typing in xvidtune. It came back with 'Error: can't open
display'.
Michael Iwaki
flipper wrote:
> Michael Iwaki a �crit :
>
> > How did you use xvidtune? Did you have to run xf86config to get into
> > xvidtune? I have redhat 6.2. Excuse me if the questions seem rather basic.
> > I'm new to this.
> >
> > Michael Iwaki
> >
>
> Hi,
>
> No, just open a console, xterm or other and type xvidtune. A screen
> prompt and you can adjust all of your monitor values. It should be safe
> if you have your monitor specs. Otherwise, try small increment values.
>
> Bye
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From: "Mr. Bean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux on a floppy
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 00:48:59 +0800
Just wondering. Is it possible to connect to another Linux box through SLIP and
then do the installation?
scott ferguson wrote:
> I've seen a small distro on a floppy. text based command line. I would like to
> do an install on a 486 with out a cd rom.. Lots of ram, 500meg hard drive but
> not networked, stand alone machine
> email reply please to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Thanks
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From: b1qcxc82 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lilo Problems
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 16:50:15 GMT
Hi cloud
I eagerly await answers to your problem. I'm in the same boat except I only
get LI
I'm using Slackware 7.1 (well not exactly USING yet)
Lorraine
cloud wrote:
> hey,, hoping you can help with some lilo problems i am having
>
> when i start lilo i get LIL- and it just sits there..... any clue why,,,
> and also,, how do you create the lilo boot disk once inside Linux (not
> during setup)
>
> Thanks
> Patrick
>
> *&&Linux convert in training
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From: Josef Oswald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lilo Problems
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 17:18:13 GMT
Hello,
b1qcxc82 schrieb:
^^^^^^^
some people prefer real names in such ngs :-)
> Hi cloud
> I eagerly await answers to your problem. I'm in the same boat except I only
> get LI
> I'm using Slackware 7.1 (well not exactly USING yet)
> Lorraine
You did not tell if you get this at your first boot-up ( was Linux running on
the pc at all?)
here is link
http://judi.greens.org/c/h/get/lilofaq.html
both of you did not tell if there is another OS on the same pc. (Because Lilo
needs to reside below the 1024 Cylinder) If both Linux did not run yet, then
there is a problem with the Hard disk.
as to the boot disk: This depends on the distribution Patrick; f..e Example
with SuSE you can use yast.
hth :-)
>
> cloud wrote:
>
> > hey,, hoping you can help with some lilo problems i am having
> >
> > when i start lilo i get LIL- and it just sits there..... any clue why,,,
> > and also,, how do you create the lilo boot disk once inside Linux (not
> > during setup)
> > Thanks
> > Patrick
> >
> > *&&Linux convert in training
--
Josef Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
registered-linux-user # 13.818 at http://counter.li.org
-Strange it works but we don't know why: it's Windows it does not have bugs only
features....
the lie of the 20th. century..... will it continue in the third Millennium?
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.software.config-mgmt
Subject: Re: Implications
Date: 23 Sep 2000 17:20:25 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Kaz Kylheku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 01:45:25 GMT, paul snow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>Here is the equation:
:>
:> X --> P --> E
It's not an equation. There is no equals sign.
: 1. comp.os.linux.advocacy
: 2. comp.os.linux.misc
: 3. comp.os.linux.setup
: 4. comp.software.config-mgmt
: I'm seeing it through 4 where it is slightly topical, but uninteresting. The
: presence of 1 removes any doubt that you are a troll. The contents remove any
: doubt that you are a boring kook with uninteresting, unoriginal ideas who is in
: need of professional help.
Amen. I couldn't follow the stream of thought, and if I couldn't, few
people can. I think he is trying to say something connected with the
old idea of maintaining a programs history along with its code. In, say,
a functional programming environment (like unix!), this happens naturally
at the level of files when you rewrite code, so long as you are careful
to copy and modify the code, and not to modify it in situ, because then
the old inode is preserved. So long as it is referenced, it can be
recovered! People have sometimes suggested or even tried turning "rm"
into an operation like "mv foo hiddendir/foo.verN". He may even
be suggesting the idea of doing this at the object level, whatever
the object level is in the system in question(in unix, this IS the file
level). That could be lines of code, or even bytes.
Hey! I understood that!
Peter
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From: "William Alexander Segraves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux on a floppy
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 12:28:37 -0500
Reply-To: "William Alexander Segraves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Slackware 3.X -- A, AP, and N disks -- should get you up and running. It
helps to have a computer with a CD-ROM for copying the disk images over to
3.5 in. floppies.
Slack' rescued my son's old 386DX33 w. 8 MB ram from the scrap heap. With
Perl from disk set D, it now works on my LAN as a server for web page and
script testing.
Bill Segraves
Auburn, AL
"Mr. Bean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Just wondering. Is it possible to connect to another Linux box through
SLIP and
> then do the installation?
>
> scott ferguson wrote:
>
> > I've seen a small distro on a floppy. text based command line. I would
like to
> > do an install on a 486 with out a cd rom.. Lots of ram, 500meg hard
drive but
> > not networked, stand alone machine
> > email reply please to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Thanks
>
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lilo Problems
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 10:49:05 -0700
I don't if this will solve your problem, I used to get rid of my LI problem on
my Redhat 6.2.
Some background. I have a 40G hard drive but Compaq won't give me an update to
my BIOS. It can only access 8G.
I had MaxBlast (EZ-Bios), a disk overlay and I jumpered the 40G hard drive as a
2G drive.
Here is my arrangement of my harddisk from beginning to end. (Pardon the
numbering sequence but it works)
16M hda3-/boot (This is important, the boot partition must within the 1024
cylinder, that is why it is in the beginning of the disk)
216M hda2-swap
7G hda4-/
32G hda1-windows
I applied lilo to hda3 partition and made the partition active.
If I applied lilo to hda partition, it messed up my EZ-BIOS.
b1qcxc82 wrote:
> Hi cloud
> I eagerly await answers to your problem. I'm in the same boat except I only
> get LI
> I'm using Slackware 7.1 (well not exactly USING yet)
> Lorraine
>
> cloud wrote:
>
> > hey,, hoping you can help with some lilo problems i am having
> >
> > when i start lilo i get LIL- and it just sits there..... any clue why,,,
> > and also,, how do you create the lilo boot disk once inside Linux (not
> > during setup)
> >
> > Thanks
> > Patrick
> >
> > *&&Linux convert in training
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PM and LILO problems!!!!
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 11:02:40 -0700
Your remaining harddisk partition numbers should be the same after blowing
the NT partition away.
The first thing I would do, is go to the BIOS and disable and enable your
harddisk controller, to automatically rescan your harddisk parameters.
If that does not bring your LILO back to life, there is only one option,
Bring out your Redhat 6.2 CD.
Do an upgrade (NO WORKSTATION, OR SERVER OR CUSTOM INSTALL).
Select something small to upgrade.
At the end of your upgrade, it should redo your lilo.
Hopefully the new lilo will be bootable.
Configure your lilo to triple boot again.
grooveman wrote:
> Hi again.
> I am running RH linux 6.2 with kernel 2.2.17 on an Athlon 700 system
> with 256 megs of ram.
>
> I had everything working fine on a tripple boot. Win NT, Win 98,
> Linux, using Boot Magic and Partition Magic.
>
> Well, my NT crashed, and it was time to get rid of it anyway, so I went
> into Partition Magic, and killed that partition. When I went to reboot
> in Linux, Lilo would not work. I get just the LI of LILO on the screen,
>
> and it locks up. All efforts to boot with floppy wound up in kernel
> panic.
>
> I thought that maybe it was because Everything had slid down one
> partition,
> /boot being on hda3 now instead of hda4, and so on down the line. So
> I
> went back into partition magic and put in an NTFS partition in where
> Winnt used to be, just for padding, but it didn't work either...
>
> I am fresh out of ideas here! I REALLY don't want to have to go and
> reinstall everything... I put so much work into that system...
>
> I don't know any params for the lilo boot disk either... I don't know if
> they would help or not...
>
> Help!
>
> Thank you!
>
> Chris
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Subject: Re: linux on a floppy
From: Josef Oswald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 18:05:15 GMT
"Mr. Bean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Just wondering. Is it possible to connect to another Linux box through SLIP and
> then do the installation?
Yes:-) But you need to recompile both kernels for that option to work,
>
> scott ferguson wrote:
>
> > I've seen a small distro on a floppy. text based command line. I would like to
> > do an install on a 486 with out a cd rom.. Lots of ram, 500meg hard drive but
> > not networked, stand alone machine
> > email reply please to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Thanks
>
--
Josef Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
registered-linux-user # 13.818 at http://counter.li.org
Strange it works but we don't know why: it's Windows it does not have bugs
only features....
the lie of the 20th. century..... will it continue in the third Millennium?
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP: lilo not booting Win98
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 11:09:47 -0700
I had a Win98 booting problem, but my Windows 98 system files crashed.
I had to made my /boot partition not active (this is where lilo starts off from)
and made my windows98 partition active.
I booted with my windows98 floppy disk
a:> sys c:
I made my /boot partition active (where lilo starts from)
and all is well.
Adam Lewis wrote:
> X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.9 (Beta 3) (x86 32bit)
>
> I've install linux a dozen times on different machines, and this is the first
> time LILO has not been able to boot a Win98 partition. I installed RedHat
> v6.1. I have two hard drives: One IDE (with linux installed) and one SCSI
> (with win98 installed). I have /boot mounted on one partition, and / (root)
> mounted on another (both on the IDE drive).
>
> Here is my lilo.conf file: (any ideas?)
>
> boot = /dev/hda
> timeout = 50
> linear
> prompt
> default = linux
> vga = normal
> read-only
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> image = /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.12-20
> label = linux
> initrd = /boot/initrd-2.2.12-20.img
> root = /dev/hda6
> other = /dev/sda1
> label = win98
> table=/dev/sda
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From: Carlos Moreno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux having trouble with Athlon/Thunderdbird?
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 14:21:54 -0400
jb wrote:
>
> so when you are asked to put in kernel options, type:
>
> linux x86_serial_nr=1
>
> and you'll be set. Just wanted to clarify that the value should be 1, and
> not 0. Hope I'm not repeatingt the obvious.
Well, it wasn't obvious to me! :-)
Just to check: are we talking here during installation? Or is it at
the LILO prompt (at boot time) that I have to enter that? (if it is
at installation, I guess I would have to choose "expert" at the
installation boot prompt?)
Thanks!
Carlos
--
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From: "David Turley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on ZIP Floppy?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 17:17:14 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Withers
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a P-166 with 64MB of RAM.....and a spare IDE ZIP floppy drive
> (roughly 97MB capacity). I'd like to install a basic Linux sytem on the
> ZIP floppy that would support my ethernet card and a text-based user
> interface.
ZipSlack
www.slackware.com
--
David Turley
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Paul Soares" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: PPTP question between Linux server and W2000/NT4 client
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 18:19:48 GMT
You have to patch pppd and then you will have 40bit and 128 bit RC4
encryption
with chap authentication.
Paul
"Jason Hong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you have suggestions.
>
>
> 1. Downloaded poptop rpm packages from http://www.moretonbay.com/vpn
> pptpd-1.0.0-1.i386.rpm
> 2. Installed poptop daemon on RedHat6.2, and the Linux box is a VPN
server.
> 3. I can hookup W2000 or NT4.0 clients to the server and have no problems.
>
> Question:
>
> I am not sure if poptop has a good encryption in order to protect data for
> remote working employee. What will be the quick and dirty solutions for
> encryption for W2000 or NT4 clients? Again, the linux box is the server.
> I try not to compile Linux kernel but I am trying to hook up MPPE.
>
> Thank you,
> Jason
>
> Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you have suggestions.A
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Marshall)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: Can't login! Yes, I was cracked.
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 11:09:06 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In comp.os.linux.security on Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:30:17 -0400,
/dev/null <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>
>This one is a talented show off.
>
Huh? Looks like a root kit to me.
--
You are not my son!
-- Homer Simpson
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From: "Jim Harback" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux, Win2K, 2 hard drives, & MBR's
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 20:23:24 +0200
The MBR is located on the first physical hard drive. Normally the C drive
or hda1 for ide drives or sda1 for scsi drives.
In article <8qgbcs$k49$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Linux, Win2K, 2 hard drives, & MBR's I know how to install Windows 2000,
> Windows 98 SE, and Linux on the same hard drive with multiple
> partitions. Install Win98SE first, then Win2K; NT Loader will install
> in the MBR (master boot record) and take care of Win98SE. Then install
> Linux, but place LILO in the first sector of the Linux boot partition.
> Then use BootPart to add Linux partition in the NT Loader boot menu.
> Relatively simple. However, what do you do if there are two hard drives?
> Doesn't each hard drive have its own MBR? Where does NT Loader go?
> Where does LILO go? If NT Loader is in the MBR of the first hard drive,
> and LILO is in the secord hard drive, what happens? Should I place LILO
> in the first sector of the Linux boot partition? Then what goes in the
> MBR of the secord hard drive? Etc., etc., ... Thank you.
>
>
> -
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
--
Jim Harback
www.GlobalLinux.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: converting bootdisk to loadlin zimage
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 18:19:36 GMT
Thanks Mick for the reply. I did find a way to solve
my problem similar to what you suggest. It turns out
the boot floppy is a Minux formatted boot disk, so I was
able to mount it after booting and cp the vmlinuz
to my MSDOS partition on the hard drive. From there
it's just a one line LOADLIN command and I was under
way. Now I just have to figure out how to recompile
a new kernel...within about 40megs of space.
Cheers,
uwuh
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mickey Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How about trying the opposite of one of the ways those
> diskettes are created? I don't know if you're familiar
> with 'rawrite' but I've used it to create image diskettes
> for linux boot, rescue, etc. The complement to rawrite
> ought to be 'raread' (I've never tried it) but it claims
> to make an image file from a diskette. Raread is available
> at the URL below and might be worth a try. If not, then
> I'm sure the dd command from linux will probably work as
> well. Once you get an image file you should be able to use
> loadlin and have it be identical to booting the disk (I
> think :)
>
> http://www.tavi.co.uk/os2pages/rawrite.html
>
> hth
> Mick
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > I've got a bootdisk that works and is unusual in
> > that respect, since I have a system with MicroChannel,
> > a SCSI controller not in use, and my hard drive is
> > neither IDE nor SCSI but is ESDI.
> >
> > I would like to use loadlin to boot from DOS, but
> > I can't seem to convert my bootdisk into something
> > that works. I tried removing the first 106 bytes
> > (comparing it to a zimage that does boot with loadlin
> > showed that the first 106 bytes of a boot disk are
> > a header of some type) but that was unsuccessful.
> >
> > I would compile a new kernel however when I boot up
> > via floppy and install the proper device files for
> > ESDI drives, I can mount the main Linux partition,
> > create and delete files in it, but not (get this)
> > read or write them. They are all "not found".
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> > uwuh
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Mark R. Holbrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Automated linux reboot
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 11:39:52 -0700
Hello,
Something in my linux system is causing it to crash periodically if it
runs for longer than about 4 days.
I have a fair number of "servers" running and perhaps one of them is
causing the problem.
At some point in the near future I'm going to try a kernel update. In
the meantime I want to setup a routine to "restart" the computer
nightly say at about 2:30 AM.
Can I simply put a call to "shutdown -r now" in my root cron to occur
daily at 2:30AM? Any problems doing this?
Mark
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From: "valkyrie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,redhat.general
Subject: Xfree86 4.01 installed but mouse very jerky
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 20:49:37 +0200
Hi
I have installed Xfree86 4.01 over Xfree86 3 using the install script but
when I restart it loads up x and shows the gnome logon screen but as soon
as I move my mouse it is erratic and jump all over the screen. Please advise
on what i am missing or where to correct this .
Thank you in advance
Quentin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Found it! (Re: Ok..."Delaying eth0 initialization"??
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 18:36:20 GMT
Ok, found it. The bunch of RPMs I downloaded also included a kernel
bump from 2.2-14 to 2.2-16. I hadn't updated my lilo.conf at all, so it
was still trying to look for my modules in the 2.2-14 area and not
finding them (I'd also lost my sound). Modified lilo to point to the
new image and all seems well!
Thanks for all the help!
In article <8qh98n$m8o$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> This morning my box was running fine, receiving email and letting me
ftp
> out. Then I pulled down a bunch of rpms, did a bunch of security
stuff
> (having just gotten cracked), and rebooted. Now, my eth0 isn't coming
> up. It keeps saying "Delaying eth0 initialization", but what does
that
> mean? Delaying it til when, and why? Where do I look to see what I
> changed? This happens if I use linuxconf to restart the network
> service, or if I use netcfg to attempt to activate the eth0 interface
> (and also during boot time).
>
> duane
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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