Linux-Setup Digest #685, Volume #19 Sat, 23 Sep 00 21:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux on ZIP Floppy? (Steve Withers)
modem seems to freeze after transferring 500kB ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
SBLive card causes lockup! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Linux+RAID+Win2k dilemma (Emilio Federici)
Printing from windows to a Linux printer ("Brian McKeen")
Re: Printtool ("Brian McKeen")
Re: Printtool ("Brian McKeen")
Re: Changing resolutions (Jaffar)
Re: Automated linux reboot (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: SuSE v's RedHat (/dev/null)
Re: linux on a floppy ("William Alexander Segraves")
Re: Ok..."Delaying eth0 initialization"?? (/dev/null)
Re: SuSE v's RedHat (Greg White)
Installation problems with 40GB disk (Chris F Clark)
Re: SuSE v's RedHat ("Jason Byrne")
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From: Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux on ZIP Floppy?
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:21:15 +1200
Barry OGrady wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 21:53:54 +1200, Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
> >I have a P-166 with 64MB of RAM.....and a spare IDE ZIP floppy drive
> >(roughly 97MB capacity). I'd like to install a basic Linux sytem on the
> >ZIP floppy that would support my ethernet card and a text-based user
> >interface. I'd actually like to run the command line version of the SETI
> >@ Home client on this wee system.
> >
> >An alternative would be to boot the system from a CD and use the ZIP
> >floppy as writeable storage - perhaps the swap file could go there.
> >
> >Anyone done this?
>
> I've never heard of a Zip floppy. Do you mean the 100 Mb Zip disk?
> ZipSlack is supposed to run on a 100 Mb Zip disk, and it is very easy to install.
Barry
Thanks. I'll check it out.
I have discovered that my P-166 system BIOS thinks the IDE ZIP drive is a
CD-ROM......and
won't boot off it anyway. Maybe Soyo have BIOS upgrades..... :-)
It's the only mobo I have that's too old to boot from whatever......
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: modem seems to freeze after transferring 500kB
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 15:48:07 -0700
Good afternoon:
Can anyone suggest a cause/fix for a modem's happily transferring about
500KB, and apparently locking up? This seems to be a reproducible
behavior on the Linux side of my machine; I have no problem with this
modem on the Windows 95 side of my machine.
The fact that I can routinely get 500KB to 1MB to transfer makes me
think I have done the ISAPNP/SETSERIAL stuff properly. The freezing of
the modem makes me think I have missed something.
The modem is a USR 56K internal data/fax modem, the operating system is
Red Hat 6.2.
Thanks,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SBLive card causes lockup!
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 22:52:18 GMT
Hi,
I've been having terrible trouble getting RedHat 6.2 to boot, and
finally got frustrated enough to yank out my PCI cards. When I yanked
out my SBLive card it booted up just fine. Here is the behavior I get
when the card is in a slot:
1) I select 'linux' at the LILO prompt
2) Next line shows "Loading Linux........"
3) Goes to next line and freezes
There is no further output. No "uncompressing kernel" message.
Keyboard is locked and I must press reset button. Taking out the
SBLive card makes it all magically work.
With the SBLive in place, I am able to successfully boot to Windows98
with no trouble whatsoever, so I'm guessing it can't be a hardware
conflict. Yet it doesn't seem that the kernel is getting far enough
for it to be a driver problem.
One interesting tidbit. If I boot from the installation floppy that
comes with RH6.2 by typing 'vmlinuz root=/dev/hda6', the machine boots
just fine even with the SBLive in the machine. Booting from the boot
disk created during installation freezes just like booting from the HD.
I've tried upgrading the kernel to 2.2.16-3 using the RPMs from RedHat,
but it still freezes. FYI, I'm running an Athlon 800 on a Tyan Trinity
K7 SlotA motherboard.
Anyone have any thoughts on how to get this to work?
Thanks,
Mark
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Emilio Federici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Linux+RAID+Win2k dilemma
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 23:18:56 GMT
Hi everybody, I've been happily running for quite a while my PC with
two Quantum Fireballs on a Abit Hot Rod controller with software RAID0
and Windows 98 on the second partitions of the two drives.
I've been using loadlin in order to prevent lilo from complaining about
the RAID0 not supported and/or the fact that the Windows partition is
located two far from the beginning of the HD (I don't remember what
cylinder number is the limit). This is tha partition table of the
booting HD:
Disk /dev/hde: 16 heads, 63 sectors, 19906 cylinders
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hde1 63 263087 131512+ 83 Linux
/dev/hde2 263088 526175 131544 fd Linux raid autodetect
/dev/hde3 526176 10295711 4884768 fd Linux raid autodetect
/dev/hde4 * 10295712 20065247 4884768 c Win95 FAT32
(LBA)
Now I've got my hands on Windows 2000, and since it hasn't got a DOS
mode I can't find a way to run loadlin so I'm considering reverting to
lilo but will it be able to get rid of this messy configuration?
Thanks in advance for your help.
--
Emilio Federici
NUOVO INDIRIZZO-> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <- NUOVO INDIRIZZO
ICQ:27013758
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From: "Brian McKeen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Printing from windows to a Linux printer
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 23:21:44 GMT
Hi
I just installed a local printer to my Linux server and would like to use
it as a remote printer for my windows machines on my network. Anyone know
how to do that? Any suggestions are appreciated. thanks in advance
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From: "Brian McKeen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Printtool
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 23:28:37 GMT
"JB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8qdn01$2dm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm using Printtool under RH6.2 to set up an Epson Stylus 740. Followed
the
> notes to the letter but nothing happens when I print.
>
> Where should I start looking.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> JB.
>
>
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From: "Brian McKeen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Printtool
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 23:29:51 GMT
hi
I had the same problems trying to install an epson 860...I finally changed
the printer type to use the default epson and it worked. Once I got that
working I played around with it and got it to work with the epson color
stylus 800 driver
"JB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8qdn01$2dm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm using Printtool under RH6.2 to set up an Epson Stylus 740. Followed
the
> notes to the letter but nothing happens when I print.
>
> Where should I start looking.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> JB.
>
>
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From: Jaffar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Changing resolutions
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 01:31:13 +0200
In data Sat, 23 Sep 2000 16:32:15 -0700, P-Body ha scritto:
> How do I change the screen resolution?
running Xconfigurator ... ?
--
Ciao!
Gian Matteo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: Automated linux reboot
Date: 23 Sep 2000 23:34:39 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark R. Holbrook wrote:
[-]
>Something in my linux system is causing it to crash periodically if it
>runs for longer than about 4 days.
[-]
>At some point in the near future I'm going to try a kernel update. In
>the meantime I want to setup a routine to "restart" the computer
>nightly say at about 2:30 AM.
>
>Can I simply put a call to "shutdown -r now" in my root cron to occur
>daily at 2:30AM? Any problems doing this?
[-]
Yes - it might crash at 2:29 8-]
See /usr/src/linux/Documentation/watchdog.txt for an alternative
solution. It may be worth a try at least.
Cheers,
Juergen
--
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From: /dev/null <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: SuSE v's RedHat
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 19:37:18 -0400
Stewart Honsberger wrote:
>
> On Mon, 21 Aug 2000 08:23:00 -0700, Scott Mann wrote:
> >There are no direct equivalents. SuSE does network configuration
> >in a "master" file that includes other config options. It is
> >/etc/rc.config.
>
> The rc.config file is actually merely the config file for the
> /sbin/SuSEconfig application. SuSEconfig just edits all the affected
> files with the requisite changes made in rc.config.
Yep and if your setup isn't too complex it won't screw things up.
It's REALLY nice for a first time user.
>
> It's quite possible to abandon the use of rc.config and hand-teak all
> the config files yourself. Any file that you hand-tweak will (should)
> be left alone by SuSEconfig in subsequent runs. It'll complain about
> the file having been edited by something other than itself, but that's
> as far as it'll go.
Yep.
>
> >Also, it sets up initial routing table entries,
> >including a default router, in /etc/route.conf. The start-up
> >script is /etc/rc.d/network.
Yep. That's a mistake as it is not a good thing to run routed unless
you absolutly need it. You don't on your internal network, unless it
is subneted and the nets are on different segments (go thru a swith
or another router). If the switch is smart, you still don't need it.
>
> Since this person is obviously switching from RedHat, why not let him
> know the proper place of these files? Take a look at your /etc directory
> at the listing of "rc.d";
>
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Jun 3 06:07 rc.d -> ../sbin/init.d
>
> The proper (standard) place for these files is actually /sbin/init.d in
> which you can find the rc#.d directories for all the runlevels.
Actually Red Hat did get the placement of these files in the correct
place
and it was with great consternation that I discovered SuSE had seen fit
to
move them from where Sys-V keeps them. After I got used to it though I
have become kind of fond of their (SuSE's) thinking on this and don't
like
Red Hat nearly as much as I do SuSE -- but for sheer upgradability and
easy maintenance, I'll take Debian over them all and it is more Red
Hat-ish.
Slackware is nice but I have not used it since kernel version 1.0. That
was
the first Linux system I installed. 0.98, May 1993. Sure was different
from
Coherent. SuSE has a nice IRIX sort of feel to it. Slackware, Debian,
and
Red Hat are more like SVR5.
I have heard that the Caldera distro is a sweet install. SuSE's install
is
trivially easy BUT it is a pain to do a custom install of just a
minimalist
system. If you want to do that stay with Slackware or Debian.
:)
--
If children don't know why their grandparents did what they
did, shall those children know what is worth preserving and what
should change?
http://www.cryptography.org/getpgp.htm
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From: "William Alexander Segraves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux on a floppy
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 18:42:49 -0500
Reply-To: "William Alexander Segraves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Another alternative:
Go to www.slackware.org , where you'll find links to sites from which you
can download any of the disk sets you want.
Bill Segraves
"William Alexander Segraves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8qipd2$n7v$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Slackware 3.X -- A, AP, and N disks -- should get you up and running. It
> helps to have a computer with a CD-ROM for copying the disk images over to
> 3.5 in. floppies.
>
> Slack' rescued my son's old 386DX33 w. 8 MB ram from the scrap heap. With
> Perl from disk set D, it now works on my LAN as a server for web page and
> script testing.
>
> Bill Segraves
> Auburn, AL
>
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From: /dev/null <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: Ok..."Delaying eth0 initialization"??
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 19:50:09 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> This morning my box was running fine, receiving email and letting me ftp
> out. Then I pulled down a bunch of rpms, did a bunch of security stuff
> (having just gotten cracked), and rebooted. Now, my eth0 isn't coming
> up. It keeps saying "Delaying eth0 initialization", but what does that
> mean? Delaying it til when, and why? Where do I look to see what I
> changed? This happens if I use linuxconf to restart the network
> service, or if I use netcfg to attempt to activate the eth0 interface
> (and also during boot time).
>
> duane
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
I believe but may well be wrong that this happens because the you
switched
from a compiled in ethernet drive to a module AND the module is not
being
loaded at bootup because your insmod is not set up correctly.
Again I may well be wrong having not had this problem in some time, I
believe
you may find that the card is a PCI card and that either need to compile
support for the card into the kernel OR figure out how to set it up in
/etc/modules.conf.
Anyway start looking in that area and someone will correct my
misinformation.
Just be carefull.
--
If children don't know why their grandparents did what they
did, shall those children know what is worth preserving and what
should change?
http://www.cryptography.org/getpgp.htm
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From: Greg White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: SuSE v's RedHat
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 00:08:38 GMT
/dev/null wrote:
>
> Stewart Honsberger wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 21 Aug 2000 08:23:00 -0700, Scott Mann wrote:
> > >There are no direct equivalents. SuSE does network configuration
> > >in a "master" file that includes other config options. It is
> > >/etc/rc.config.
> >
> > The rc.config file is actually merely the config file for the
> > /sbin/SuSEconfig application. SuSEconfig just edits all the affected
> > files with the requisite changes made in rc.config.
>
> Yep and if your setup isn't too complex it won't screw things up.
> It's REALLY nice for a first time user.
>
> >
> > It's quite possible to abandon the use of rc.config and hand-teak all
> > the config files yourself. Any file that you hand-tweak will (should)
> > be left alone by SuSEconfig in subsequent runs. It'll complain about
> > the file having been edited by something other than itself, but that's
> > as far as it'll go.
>
> Yep.
>
> >
> > >Also, it sets up initial routing table entries,
> > >including a default router, in /etc/route.conf. The start-up
> > >script is /etc/rc.d/network.
>
> Yep. That's a mistake as it is not a good thing to run routed unless
> you absolutly need it. You don't on your internal network, unless it
> is subneted and the nets are on different segments (go thru a swith
> or another router). If the switch is smart, you still don't need it.
>
> >
> > Since this person is obviously switching from RedHat, why not let him
> > know the proper place of these files? Take a look at your /etc directory
> > at the listing of "rc.d";
> >
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Jun 3 06:07 rc.d -> ../sbin/init.d
> >
> > The proper (standard) place for these files is actually /sbin/init.d in
> > which you can find the rc#.d directories for all the runlevels.
>
> Actually Red Hat did get the placement of these files in the correct
> place
> and it was with great consternation that I discovered SuSE had seen fit
> to
> move them from where Sys-V keeps them. After I got used to it though I
> have become kind of fond of their (SuSE's) thinking on this and don't
> like
> Red Hat nearly as much as I do SuSE -- but for sheer upgradability and
> easy maintenance, I'll take Debian over them all and it is more Red
> Hat-ish.
>
> Slackware is nice but I have not used it since kernel version 1.0. That
> was
> the first Linux system I installed. 0.98, May 1993. Sure was different
> from
> Coherent. SuSE has a nice IRIX sort of feel to it. Slackware, Debian,
> and
> Red Hat are more like SVR5.
>
SNIP
Never heard anybody else say that Slackware is anything like SVR*... As
far as I'm concerned, the only reason it's not completely *BSDish is
that it has runlevels... ;)
GW
Followups set to comp.os.linux.security to avoid further cross-posts.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.admin
From: Chris F Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Installation problems with 40GB disk
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 00:10:14 GMT
I just bought a new HP 9680C with Windows 98 2e installed. I'd like
to make the system dual boot with Linux (I have Red Hat 6.0 on CD from
my other machine.) I made space on the drive (see chart below).
However, the Linux installation process cannot read the drive and thus
refuses to put the Linux partitions on it.
/dev/hda - Model Maxtor 94098U8
C: 3GB fat32 win98
- 1GB unformatted freespace (to put Linux /)
E: 500mb fat
Extended Partition 34.5GB
128mb swap
128mb swap
128mb ext2 (for /tmp)
128mb ext2 (for /var)
2GB ext2 (for /usr)
8GB ext2 (for /home)
D: 24GB fat32
The precise messages I get are
If I pick disk druid:
Fdisk error
An error occured reading the partition
table for the block device hda. The
error was: No such file or directory.
If I look at the screen that alt-f4 shows I see
<4>hda: Maxtox 94098U8, ATA Disk Drive
<4>hdc: CD-W54E, ATAPI CD-ROM Drive
<4>hdd: TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-M1302, ATAPI CD_ROM Drive
<4>ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
<4>ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x3f6 on irq 15
<6>hda: Maxtox 94098U8, 39082MB w/2048kB Cache, CHS=5293/240/63
...
<4>Partition check:
<4> hda: hda1 hda3 hda4 < hda5 hda6 hda7 hda8 hda9 hda10 hda11 >
If I pick fdisk:
This is fdisk running on your hda hard drive.
[and then nothing, it just quits]
If I switch to the bash# prompt, and run:
bash# fdisk /tmp/hda
I get:
The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 5293.
This is larger than 1024, and may cause problems with:
1) software that runs at boot time (e.g. LILO)
2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs
(e.g. DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)
Unable to read /tmp/hda
bash#
So, what do I do???
-Chris
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From: "Jason Byrne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SuSE v's RedHat
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 17:39:28 -0700
> Never heard anybody else say that Slackware is anything like SVR*... As
> far as I'm concerned, the only reason it's not completely *BSDish is
> that it has runlevels... ;)
yep... Slackware is definitely a BSDish system - shouldn't have been
included in the system V comparison.
---
I definitely prefer SuSE over RedHat... but I think Slackware is my new
favorite - not for bells and whistles... but for a nice clean no-frills
linux.
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