Linux-Setup Digest #734, Volume #19 Sun, 1 Oct 00 05:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: Trying to use PPP to across other computer (Vilmos Soti)
Re: create new part without to reboot (Lew Pitcher)
Re: Enlightenment installation (Michael Perry)
OpenLinux 2.3/2.4 Install on NEC Ready 9840 Desktop (Stewart Todd Morgan)
Re: What does druid want? "Next" button grayed (Mike Oliver)
Debian 2.2 + rpm (Jari Kohvakka)
Re: sony vaio F580 Notebook unable to install ("Stig S�rensen")
Re: typical .config file for kernel compilation ("Bill Shirley")
Re: 30 GB free space and still "no enought space" ("Bill Shirley")
Re: Does Anyone know How to DO this? ("Bill Shirley")
Re: Ram Problem (Rony Gabriel)
Re: NUMLOCK #$%@#$@%! (Jim)
Re: help: soundcard setup please (Steve Wright)
Re: Redhat 7.0 and Kernel 2.2.17 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Yast2 help!! (Ruediger Arp)
FAQ for this group? Where? (no content) (Steve Wright)
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Subject: Re: Trying to use PPP to across other computer
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2000 06:10:27 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
OK, next time don't have your problem in the Subject line. ;-)
> I been running the following command on both computers
>
> pppd -detach crtscts lock <local ip>:<remote ip> /dev/ttyS1 38400&
I use the following command:
pppd nodetach noauth passive persist local \
lock localIP:remoteIP /dev/modem 115200
Don't forget on the other machine to switch the IPs over. ;-)
I am sure it is possible to fine tune this command, but I didn't bother
since this is only a backup connection between two networked machines
if one network connection goes down.
Vilmos
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From: Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: create new part without to reboot
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 23:43:09 -0400
valery brasseur wrote:
>
> Is ther a way to create new partition under Linux without having to
> reboot after ?
'fdisk' followed by 'mkfs' followed by 'mount'
No reboot necessary.
--
Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: Enlightenment installation
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 21:02:27 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 20:21:29 GMT, Dylan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Have installed Enlightenment DR 16 on my suse 6.1 system, get error
>message when trying to start enlighenment
>
>/usr/bin/enlightenment: error in loading shared libararies:
>libjpeg.so.62:cannot open shared object file: no such file or
>directory.
>
>could this be that the rpm that i used has installed into different
>directory than suse expects.
>
Did you install the tarball version of Enlightenment and the rpm version of
libjpeg? This often happens when mixing and matching. It works the other
way too. If you install a tarball version of a library and attempt an rpm
installation of an application that needs it, the application may choke.
The library simply is not in the rpm database and cannot be found by the rpm
program.
--
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Stewart Todd Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: OpenLinux 2.3/2.4 Install on NEC Ready 9840 Desktop
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 23:13:53 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Summary:
This post relates a problem encountered when installing Caldera Systems
Open Linux 2.3 (and 2.4) on an NEC Ready 9840 Desktop system. Two
solutions are presented.
System:
Linux Distribution: Caldera Systems OpenLinux 2.3 (or 2.4)
Computer: NEC Ready 9840 Desktop
Processor: Intel Pentium MMX 233 MHz
System memory: 128 MB
The Problem:
When trying to boot Linux from the CD-ROM drive for the first time
during installation, the following appears on the screen as drivers are
loading:
.
.
.
.
usb_uhci ok
parport_lowlevel wait
At this point the boot process hangs indefinitely. This is an instance
where the important message is not the last one, but rather the
next-to-last one.
The Solution(s):
Solution One: Although it appears that the problem is the parallel port
adapter driver, in reality the usb_uhci driver is at fault. My solution
to the problem was to turn on Legacy USB Support in the system's Phoenix
BIOS. This can be done by doing the following:
1. Select the Advanced tab in the main BIOS menu screen.
2. Select the Peripheral Configuration Sub-menu
3. Toggle the Legacy USB Support option from disabled to enabled
4. Exit the BIOS menu system making sure to save the change you just
made.
If you now repeat the Linux installation process, it should proceed
without hindrance.
Solution Two: The alternative solution (which assumes that you do not
want to use the USB ports in Linux) involves creating a special boot
floppy disk without the usb_uhci driver and using the floppy to boot
during installation rather than the CD-ROM. You will also have to make
sure that Linux does not automatically detect the USB ports and
consequently try to put usb_uhci back into the list of drivers to
install at boot time.
Todd
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From: Mike Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What does druid want? "Next" button grayed
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2000 00:17:45 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dan wrote:
>
> Hmm. Did you specify a swap partition?
No. How do you do that? It doesn't seem
to be listed among the "mount points" if I
have the name right.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jari Kohvakka)
Subject: Debian 2.2 + rpm
Date: 1 Oct 2000 07:24:38 GMT
I tried to install rpm-support for Debian with 'apt-get install rpm'. It
seemed to go fine, but when I try to run 'rpm <whatever>' it says it can't
find rpmrc (don't remember the path right now :( ). I then copied that file
from a machine where rpm is already working (also a debian), it complained
something about missing rpm-'database' thing.
Is this a common problem? Any solutions? I need to get the rpm-support
working, since Sybase's idiots give sybase-common and sybase-openclient
-packages only as rpm's.
If this info ain't enough, I can send the error-messages here tomorrow from
work.
K
--
/"\ / Jari Kohvakka
\ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign / CS-major / University of Helsinki
X Against HTML Mail / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/ \ / +358 50 567 2587
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From: "Stig S�rensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,cz.comp.linux.redhat-cz
Subject: Re: sony vaio F580 Notebook unable to install
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 09:56:28 +0200
-Run the installer in textmode.
-Try RH7.0.
/Stig
"visor-palm John" <j$ohn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8r5uqv$k5t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Sony VAIO PCG-F580: Pentium III 650Mhz, 256Mb RAM, 6Mb video memory, 12 G
> hard-drive
> Display Adapter: NeoMagic MagicMedia256XL+ (v016)
> Display: 15" XGA TFT
>
> RedHat 6.1 CD's
>
> The machine has Win98 on 2 partitions and there are 3 GB left to install
> Linux.
>
> However, when I boot to the CD (or floppy) I first get the entry screen
> which asks what type of install I want to do...Install RedHat Linux (this
is
> the DOS-ish text window with the "boot:" prompt).
> Then I press <enter> to do an install...the system goes through its image
> loading (vmlinux...) and then it says something like "unrecognized
> card"...and it croaks...to the point where it says, system is safe to
> reboot.
>
> Here is the output (that can be viewed)
>
> Fatal server error:
> No valid modes found.
>
> When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send the full
> server output, not jst the last messages
>
> _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> Traceback (innermost last):
> File "/usr/bin/anaconda", line 144, in ?
> from gui import InstallInterface
> File "/usr/lib/python1.5/site-packages/gui.py", line 9, in ?
> from gtk import *
> File "/usr/lib/python1.5/site-packages/gtk.py", line 29, in ?
> _gtk.gtk.init()
> RuntimeError: cannot open display
> install exited abnormally
> sending termination signals...done
> sending kill signals...done
> unmounting filesystems...
> /mnt/source
> /dev/pts
> /proc
> you may safely reboot your system
>
> I have taken all network cards out of the system and it still does not
allow
> me to continue with the installation.
> I have already checked out the stuff on
> http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/ and
> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~and1000/vaioF-series.html but it did not help.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
>
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From: "Bill Shirley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: typical .config file for kernel compilation
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 22:39:49 -0400
/usr/src/linux/.config should the the config file your current kernel was
compiled from. Do a:
cd /usr/src/linux
cp -a .config config.b4.mychanges
make menuconfig
make dep
make bzlilo (are you using lilo for you boot loader?)
make modules
make modules_install
Hope this helps,
Bill
"Alessandro Magni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am using version 2.2.5-15 of the kernel.
> I'd like - first time in my life - to recompile it,
> so to patch it with the international crypto options.
> Unfortunately, a look at <make menuconfig> assured me that
> I was on the way of many problem: not been a kernelhacker,
> I'm not sure about many of the Yes/No/Module options.
>
> Where can I find a premade .config file that assures me
> to obtain a working kernel on a "typical" machine?
> Say, for example, the kernel shipped with common distros.
>
> If I can obtain it, I can modify it by just changing
> the few options I need.
>
> Thanks for any help
>
> Alessandro Magni
> --
>
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From: "Bill Shirley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 30 GB free space and still "no enought space"
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 22:58:09 -0400
What command are you using to do the copy? You could be copying the /proc
and other mounted files systems; like copying the filesystem you are copying
to!!
cd /directorywherethefilesare
cp -ax . /directorywhereyouwantthem
^
NOTICE the period!
should work nicely!
"Kevin Lawless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello,
>
> I don't know if this is the problem but Linux may not be able to handle
> drives larger than the 12Gb that you are able use. As with some other OS
> designs, you may require special software to extend Linux's capability.
> There is definitely an upper limit on the amount of memory Linux can
'see',
> i.e. approx. 2Gb ( and half of that needs to be swap) and file sizes are
> limited to ~ 2Gb. One straight forward solution that I think should work
is
> to repartition your drive into 3 separate partitions, with two
partitions
> of 12Gb apiece and a slightly smaller partition of 8 Gb. You could mount
> /usr and /home separately as these are more likely to run out of quota
> before anything else. Presumably your systems m/board and BIOS is fairly
> new and capable of recognising very large disk drives. Of course, unless
you
> need 20 or 30Gb of disk storage for large scale multimedia work etc, you
> could use extra partitions for another Linux installation, maybe another
> distribution or a system purely for experimental whims!
>
>
>
>
> "Jussi J��skel�inen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hi!
> > I have little - BIG problem...
> >
> > I have 2 x 45 GB hard disks and I have made them act as RAID-1 (42 GB)
> > device with Ext-2 file system!
> >
> > Problem is, that I can copy only about 11 GB data to that /dev/md0
> > before system says "No free spce left"...
> >
> > Here what debugfs says:
> >
> > Filesystem is read-only
> > Volume name = (none)
> > Last mounted directory = (none)
> > Filesystem UUID = 4908f938-8bac-11d4-824b-0000e84e746c
> > Last mount time = Sat Sep 16 11:49:38 2000
> > Last write time = Sat Sep 16 13:25:42 2000
> > Mount counts = 1 (maximal = 20)
> > Filesystem OS type = Linux
> > Superblock size = 1024
> > Block size = 1024, fragment size = 1024
> > Inode size = 128
> > 11257856 inodes, 11242558 free
> > 45030080 blocks, 29528393 free, 2251504 reserved, first block = 1
> > 8192 blocks per group
> > 8192 fragments per group
> > 2048 inodes per group
> > 5497 groups (172 descriptors blocks)
> >
> > I seems to me that there is plenty of free space left (and Inodes and
> > other stuff)
> >
> >
> > And BTW, I just made test and format one of those disks to ext2.
> > Copied files to it and ... Same problem.. 12 GB copied and then "no
> > free space".. Then I just try to copy MORE and result was that whole
> > ext2 filesystem broke down... (Atleast e2fsck found about million
> > different errors from it)
> >
> > Do I have problem OR do I have PROBLEM!!!
> >
> > Please, HELP!!!
> >
>
>
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From: "Bill Shirley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does Anyone know How to DO this?
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 01:48:39 -0400
Boot from the CD and mount your partition somewhere under /mnt
Change the /etc/fstab, /etc/lilo.conf and whatever else. Don't forget
to run lilo after changes.
Bill
"Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8qv0jp$mo2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I had 2 6GB HD with NT and other stuff on the first HD.
> The second HD had 3GB (FAT) first partition for my data
> The rest of the 2nd HD partition were used for linux. With
> the boot partition on /dev/hdb5
>
> Now I have replaced the 2 6GB HD with a single 13GB HD
> I have done an image copy (using Power Quest's Drive Image)
> of my NT and linux partions from the old 2 6GB HD onto the
> new single 13 GB HD successfully. NT boots OK. The boot
> partition for Linux has now changed to say /dev/hda5
>
> Problem:
> Obviously my original bootable floppy and etc/fstab on the current HD
> still points to hdb5. I have edited /etc/lilo.conf on the floppy to point
> to
> /dev/hda5 and when I boot from the floppy reports a "panic" (i think
kernel
> panic)
> error. I have tried re-booting using the Redhat 6.2 CD in rescue mode and
> using:
> mount -t ext2 /dev/hda5 / to mount the root directory. I think it
mounts
> the dir
> because the listing shows some of my files. However when I when I do a
> listing
> in the /etc directory I only see files that were already there by the
virtue
> of the
> bootable CD. Hence /etc/mtab is there but /etc/fstab is NOT there.
>
> Que
> How can I restore the system from here. What files do I need to modify.
> Any link? how to? Any help greatly appreciated.
>
> Jack
>
>
>
>
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From: Rony Gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ram Problem
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 06:59:46 GMT
Add the following line in your /etc/lilo.conf.
append = "mem=256M"
then run /sbin/lilo.
Next time you reboot, things will be fine.
--
Rony Gabriel
http://www.campnine.org/rony/
Michael Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> before your system boots into linux, type this in at the lilo prompt
> lilo: linux mem=256M once it boots up, check your resources and see
> if it didn't pick up all the memory this time
> "John D. Cassidy" wrote:
>> I have just installed linux, and it will only recognize 64 of my 256 mb's of
>> ram. Anybody have any ideas of what to do. Remember, I am a new user, so
>> please be as detailed as possble.
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From: Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: NUMLOCK #$%@#$@%!
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2000 08:54:19 GMT
Here's my solution to the problem:
<clickity, clackity><grumble><hit num lock key><grumble><clickity, clackity>
Yes, you have to keep your sense of humor with computers or you lose your
mind.
Jim
Felix Miata wrote:
> Whatever the rationale is that *any* PC OS thinks it knows better and
> proceeds to turn NUMLOCK OFF, regardless that in the BIOS it has been
> set by the user to ON, totally escapes me.
>
> I bought a 900+ page book "Mastering Linux", copyright 1999, that
> included a RedHat 5.1 CD. Between the book, the CD, and various help
> files on the net, I haven't found an explanation on how to keep NUMLOCK
> ON in RedHat 5.1, 6.1, or 6.2, Corel 1.0, 1.1 or 1.2, or Mandrake 7.1.
>
> Mandrake installation was friendly enough to ask me if I wanted it on,
> so when I boot Mandrake, part of the initialization messages that flash
> on the screen too fast to digest include "Starting NUMLOCK [OK]".
> However, even that isn't fully effective: console logins set NUM ON, and
> initialized KDE sessions have it ON, but to start KDM from a console
> login, NUM is inexplicably turned OFF until after successful login, so
> the keypad is unavailable to type in a numeric password without first
> hitting the NUM key!
>
> Various docs provide variations on the following subscript:
>
> for t in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
> do
> setleds +num < /dev/tty$t > /dev/null
> done
>
> to install in various initialization files, such as /etc/rc.local or
> /etc/rc.d/rc among others.
>
> I tried adding the script to /etc/rc.d/rc in RH 6.2. This works, but
> only for console sessions, and only *after* a successful login, so, like
> in Mandrake, the keypad is unavailable to type in a numeric password
> without first hitting the NUM key.
>
> The various window managers all seem to have a setup options menu for
> handling things like mice & keyboards, but I can't find in any of them
> under "keyboard" a tab or other setting to address NUMLOCK.
>
> Surely *somewhere* must be a useful explanation to help me and others
> like me who *hate* having NUMLOCK turned off to instruct Linux to keep
> NUM ON ALWAYS! Someone *please* help!
> --
> A man of knowledge uses words with restraint . . . . Proverbs 17:27
> NKJV
>
> Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.members.atlantic.net
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From: Steve Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help: soundcard setup please
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 20:45:33 +0000
On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, David Efflandt wrote:
>On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Steve Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I've held off posting this for a month. I'm stumped!
>>
>>OPL3SA2 soundcard.
>>
>>Peanut-Linux:~# modprobe opl3sa2 io=0x220 irq=7 dma=0 mss_io=0x330 dma2=1
>>/lib/modules/2.2.16/misc/opl3sa2.o: init_module: Device or resource busy
>>/lib/modules/2.2.16/misc/opl3sa2.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.2.16/misc/opl3sa2.o failed
>>/lib/modules/2.2.16/misc/opl3sa2.o: insmod opl3sa2 failed
>
>So, have you read /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound/OPL3-SA2? I think
>not since your MSS port is out of range and I don't think you can use SB
>emulation and MSS at the same time.
>
>--
>David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.de-srv.com/
>http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
>http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/ http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/
Hi David, Daryl, others ...
Thanks for your input. Ok, It's not a PCI bus (actually an old 486)
What I haven't said is that it worked before perfectly. I had a problem and
re-installed from the .bz2 and now no-go! I did delete some files (devices?)
in /dev. I don't have the source so I had better look that up.
I spent a lot of time researching the 'Device or resource busy' message. I'm
not sure if this relevant. I'm also using the ide on the card to run the
cd-rom. This works intermittantly - not sure if this due to my tinkering with
it or not.
#dmesg - says
ad1848/cs4248 codec driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
Found OPL3-SAx (YMF719)
#
even after the error reported above. also isapnp says ---
Peanut-Linux:~# isapnp /etc/isapnp.conf
Neither /proc/bus/pci/devices nor /proc/pci found, so PCI resource conflict not checked
Board 1 has Identity 81 ff ff ff ff 20 00 a8 65: YMH0020 Serial No -1 [checksum 81]
YMH0020/-1[0]{OPL3-SAX Sound Board}: Ports 0x220 0x530 0x388 0x330 0x370; IRQ7 DMA0
DMA1 --- Enabled OK
YMH0020/-1[1]{OPL3-SAX Sound Board}: Port 0x201; --- Enabled OK
YMH0020/-1[2]{OPL3-SAX Sound Board}: Port 0x100; --- Enabled OK
YMH0020/-1[3]{OPL3-SAX Sound Board}: Ports 0x1E8 0x3EE; IRQ11 --- Enabled OK
Peanut-Linux:~#
I won't 'ls /dev' here, 8-o but if someone would like to see it via email I
can send it...
regards,
Steve
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Redhat 7.0 and Kernel 2.2.17
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2000 08:51:42 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Doug Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am getting the same message and I tried the CC=kgcc.
Uhm, where and how do I set CC=kgcc ? Is it like on the prompt: set
CC=kgcc ?
>
> Doug
>
> On Sat, 30 Sep 2000 22:18:38 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >I'm having trouble compiling a new kernel. After
> >my complete clean, new installation of Redhat 7.0
> >(standard options workstations, no upgrade) I
> >can't compile a 2.2.17 kernel anymore.
> >
> >I do:
> >(untarring of course to /usr/src.. etc)
> >make mrproper
> >make xconfig
> >make dep
> >make clean
> >
> >and then:
> >make bzImage
> >
> >But while compiling, many parts give errors like:
> >"pasting would not get a valid preprocessing
> >token"
> >
> >I used to have Redhat 6.2. I compiled new kernels
> >back then without problems (also 2.2.17)
> >
> >Anyone can give my a hint?
> >
> >Matthijs in 't Anker
> >
> >
> >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> >Before you buy.
>
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Ruediger Arp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Yast2 help!!
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2000 09:03:30 GMT
log in to a console as root and type Yast2.
You may want to start sax to setup your mouse.
In case you have configured a graphical login, go to a console with=20
crtl+alt+F1 (or F2 to F6).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Am 30.09.00, 10:51:08, schrieb "Nigel Mullen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> zum Th=
ema=20
Yast2 help!!:
> I have just installed SuSE 6.4 and now my Genius easyscroll mouse won'=
t
> work. How do I start Yast2 without a mouse?
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From: Steve Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FAQ for this group? Where? (no content)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 21:09:02 +0000
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