Linux-Setup Digest #747, Volume #19               Mon, 2 Oct 00 17:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Recomended Motherboards for K6-2 and K6-3 ("Tommy")
  Re: Implications ("D F")
  Re: help: configuring fetchmail (David. E. Goble)
  how to compile kernel (Zhihui Zhang)
  Re: WTF is up with LinuxConf under RH7?!!??! (David M. Cook)
  Re: Is RedHat 7.0 disk1 iso enough? (Barth)
  nevermind...worked it out ("Peter W. Otto")
  >2giga files on Linux ? (Robert Herzog)
  Re: Recomended Motherboards for K6-2 and K6-3 (Chronocidal Charlie)
  Re: Helppp!! X-window-configuration problem (Lightning)
  display resolution ("Bert Friesen")
  Re: Installation fails for Adaptec (AIC7880) SCSI Controller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Installation fails for Adaptec (AIC7880) SCSI Controller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: dual boot with Win2K (not 98 or NT) ?? ("Ergophobe")
  Re: Recomended Motherboards for K6-2 and K6-3 ("Ergophobe")

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From: "Tommy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Recomended Motherboards for K6-2 and K6-3
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 14:13:55 -0500

Alot of people don't like them but I have 2 AMD K6-2 500's running RH 6.2 on
FIC VA-503+ boards with absolutely no trouble. The have been great boards.

Tommy

"JASON SNYDER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have had and one of my friends has been running Linux on K6-2 and K6-3
> systems and have had way too many bad motherboard experiences.  (Skip
> the first two paragraphs to get to the meat.)
>
> My friend started off with an Epox board with a K6-2 475MHz.  His
> troubles began a couple of months down the road when his Epox board
> burned up.  He decided to go with an MSI board with an ALi chip set, but
> that turned out to have tons of problems.  For one it would
> intermittently detect his CPU as a 500 MHz instead of 475 MHz.  Then it
> wouldn't do a CD-ROM boot when he had both his DVD and CD burn plugged
> in.  Sometimes it wouldn't detect all of his RAM (the boot test before
> Linux was started).  Then when he got through that, the Mandrake 7.1
> install would complain about an error detecting memory and do a kernel
> panic.  I presume that this was do to another error in the board where
> it would detect banks 0, 1, 3, 4 instead of 0, 1, 2, 3.  Reflashing the
> BIOS with the latest revision didn't help much.  He eventually broke
> down and bought an Athlon system. (He just bought the motherboard and
> CPU and kept the rest of his previous system.)  His Athlon system
> actually works right unlike his K6-2 system.
>
> I first got my hands on a Vigor board that was left over from a low end
> Linux based web server that I put together with my brother.  (It was a
> replacement that came a few weeks after a major short on the video card
> took both the motherboard and video card out. This occurred a few hours
> before we where going to co-locate the server so we didn't wait for the
> replacement board even though it was free.  It was probably a good thing
> seeing that the Vigor board wasn't all that great and we where able to
> get something in that worked right.)  When I used the board I ran into a
> few problems including a flaky secondary IDE controller that fouled
> things up pretty good, even under Linux, and the board would
> intermittently go into an infinite boot loop (before it would get down
> to IDE detection).  My current board is a Tyan Trinity S1598.  It works
> good, but it has the processor socket on the top front of the board.
> Even with the stock heat sink and fan combo for the boxed K6-3 400 MHz,
> I recently noticed that two of my three 5 1/4 inch drive bays are
> blocked in my cheep $26 case.  The case does seem to have standard ATX
> dimensions even though it is cheep, so I have a hard time blaming it on
> the case.  I now have an Athlon system with a Full tower In-Win Q500
> case and ASUS K7V motherboard as my primary Linux box, but I still have
> my K6-3 system which I use as my windows box / Linux tinker toy.
>
> Now the question is what would you recommended as a good motherboard for
> a Super7 processor (such as K6-2 or K6-3) that doesn't or block drive
> bays on a mid tower ATX or foul up with Linux or just foul up in
> operation in general?
>



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From: "D F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.software.config-mgmt
Subject: Re: Implications
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 15:34:12 -0400


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
<8rak4v$12m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>In article <8raaic$4sh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  "D F"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
>> <8ra7qu$ljc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> >
>> >Notation is flexible, allowing equations of the sort:
>> >
>> >      H2 + O2 --> H2O
>> >      Ref:
>> http://library.thinkquest.org/3659/chmreact/equation.html
>> >
>>
>> Well, that should really be:
>>
>> 2 H2 + O2 ==> 2 H20
>>
>> No?
>>
>
>I never considered it.  There is no meaning (from the
chemical point of
>view) to the --> vs. ==>.  They are simply arrows in the
notation.
>
>Here is a reference where all of these and other notations
are used.  I
>just don't think it is important to what I was trying to
say.
>
>http://www.st-agnes.org/~lstinson/webpages/chemform.htm
>
>Paul Snow
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.

It's not the arrow I was pointing out, it was the fact that
your "equation" was unequal, i.e. unbalanced. Note the 2 in
front of the H2...

Dave Fluri  North Bay, Ontario  Canada

The opinions herein are mine. I do not speak for my employer
unless I expressly indicate otherwise.




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From: goble@gtech (David. E. Goble)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: help: configuring fetchmail
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 19:41:24 GMT
Reply-To: goble@gtech

On 30 Sep 2000 02:23:28 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mpulliam) wrote:
>
>What you want fetchmail to do is pretty
>straightforward and if you go man fetchmail
>you'll be able to configure it by hand.
>You make a file ~./fetchmailrc and put
>a couple bits of information there, and
>away you go.
>
>Here is the line you need for one user
>account in fetchmail:
>
>poll mail.myisp.com with proto POP3
>user myname there with password
>mypassword is myhomename here
>
>You will need two of those lines for
>your two accounts. It looks like nonsense
>right now but read man fetchmail and
>it'll be clear.
>
Hi MP;

Thanks thats what I needed.

Question email to erc@... is bounced to goble@... Does fetchmail
handle the filtering of this or does sendmail be better...?

--Regards       David. E. Goble
             goble [AT] kin.net.au
          http://www.kin.net.au/goble
Po Box 648 Kingscote, Kangaroo Island, SA 5223

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Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 15:45:26 -0400
From: Zhihui Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how to compile kernel


Hi, I need information on how to compile a Linux kernel. Specifically, I
will do this under Redhat 6.2. Is it easy?  Thanks for any help.

-Zhihui


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From: David M. Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: WTF is up with LinuxConf under RH7?!!??!
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 19:38:42 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  The Archimage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What's up with THAT?!?!

Caused more problems for users than it was worth.

Dave Cook


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From: Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is RedHat 7.0 disk1 iso enough?
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 21:53:51 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Scott Twitchell - EWB Support wrote:

> Hi,
>     I believe that the first disk is for the installation (has RPMS / base
> directories etc. ) and the second disk is the source code. I don't think the
> second disk is needed unless you want the source code.

You're wrong!

The first CD is not enough!  rpms are mixed. For exemple you can find Cdrecord
on one and apache on the other.
But it seems that if you want the basic configuration, you need only the first
one.



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From: "Peter W. Otto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: nevermind...worked it out
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 05:19:29 +0930

sorry for any inconvenience/frustration!

bye



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From: Robert Herzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: >2giga files on Linux ?
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 20:11:31 GMT

Hello,
can someone recommend what to do to get files larger than 2 gigabyte on
Intel Linux ?
I know it will be part of 2.4 kernel, but is this function already
available in test versions of this kernel (test 8 was the last i saw)?
Thanks.
R.H.

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From: Chronocidal Charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Recomended Motherboards for K6-2 and K6-3
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 20:09:20 GMT

I set out about six months ago to see how cheap I could build a machine
in the 500 MHz range. I'd been pretty strictly Intell for years, but I
bought an AMD k-6 2/550 3D for about $95, cheapest Elements board I
could find with an Award bios, ALI-VM1542 & M1543 chipset for about a
hundred bucks and 160 meg of off the shelf generic ram at about a
dollar a meg. Took a few gymnastics to get my Win95 seed on it so I
could go on and upgrade to 98, little tweaking in the bios to get my
Linux compiler to work, but have installed and run several flavors of
Linux and FreeBsd on it, and currently am building a Linux system that
started with the smallest RH 6.1 install I could cut it to and still
boot and start compiling sources. It's running a 2.4.0-pre8 kernel,
XFree86 4.01 and KDE 2, or at least the latest beta release of KDE 2
which I think is 1.94 or something along those lines, dual boot along
with the Win98. Outside the glitches that come with most alpha and beta
applications and some of my own junque, it has amazed me with it's
stability.

Charlie


In article <L55C5.29$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "Tommy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Alot of people don't like them but I have 2 AMD K6-2 500's running RH
6.2 on
> FIC VA-503+ boards with absolutely no trouble. The have been great
boards.
>
> Tommy
>


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From: Lightning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Helppp!! X-window-configuration problem
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 22:22:47 +0200

greetz,
it seems that xconfigurator has a problem with the videocard
download the correct Xdriver and relink /usr/X11R6/bin/X to that
X-driver instead of its normal one
i did this and it solved the same problem, with one difference, mine was
a voodoo banshee
now i have that symlink pointing to my XF86_Banshee driver and X runs
perfectly in all resolution, which my monitor can handle!
rafke wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've got Linux Redhat 6.0 .
> When I run Gnome or kde, or an other X-window program, I got resolution
> that is wrong : I see only a third of the screen, everything much to
> large. (my mouse pointer for example is three times as big as normal).
> 
> I tried to use Xconfigurator, but it won't work.
> 
> Can anybody help me to set this up?
> 
> some details :
> Redhat 6.0
> Screen : Highscreen (vobis) MS 1595P
> refreshrates: 30-69khz and 47-120hz
> Videocard : a Creative 3Dblaster RivaTNT2 Ultra (agp)
> 
> Please help ...
> 
> Tnx
> 
> Rafke

--
C u Lightning aka _SiN_
=====================================================================
Linux is user-friendly, it's just very picky on who it's friends are!

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From: "Bert Friesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: display resolution
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 15:25:35 -0500

I would like to change my screen resolution from 640 X480 pixels to 800 X
600.  I am running Red Hat 6.2 and have a TTX 14 inch monitor.  How do I do
it?  My monitor was not listed in the initial installation setup.

Bert Friesen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Installation fails for Adaptec (AIC7880) SCSI Controller
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 20:29:13 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Jaco van Staden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All
>
> I am trying to install RH 6.2 on a IBM PC 330 Server which uses an
> Adaptec SCSI controller and an IBM ServeRaid Raid controller. It seems
> as if the SCSI controller driver is not loaded correctly.
>
> Problem:
>
> I boot from the CD and after the kernel loaded it says AIC7xxx
loading.
> Thereafter, it asks which installation medium to use; CDROM or Hard
> Drive. I then choose CDROM and it asks for SCSI or Other. I select
SCSI
> (it is a SCSI CDROM). Then it presents a list of driver options, but
> nothing for CDROM's. Instead it looks like SCSI controller cards
> -without the AIC7xxx in the list. No matter what I select it just goes
> back to the list again.
>
> If I select the Hard Drive for installation medium it does exactly the
> same as with the CDROM.
>
> What I have tried:
>
> 1. I downloaded the latest boot image from Redhat.com which includes
the
> latest ServeRaid driver. It changes nothing.
> 2. I downloaded the latest AIC7xxx driver from RedHat. It still asks
for
> a CDROM driver, but this time the AIC7xxx driver is included in the
> list. I select it. It then loads and show CD is initialising, but then
> it goes back to the driver list and this driver is not their anymore.
> >From there on it is exactly the same as described in the problem
above.
>
> The System:
>
> Server Type: IMB PC server 330
> SCSI controller: AIC7880 chipset. I don't know which AHA card. but I
> think it is AHA-294x -that is what MS NT reports.
> Raid Controller: IBM ServeRaid.
> CDROM: Plextor SCSI, PX20TSI
> Tape Drive: SCSI. I don't know which type.
> SCSI DEVICE ID: The card was at 7. I changed it to 0. It reports no
> other devices.
> CPU: Pentium 2.
> It is currently running MS NT.
>
> Other remarks:
> 1. I have not checked the bios version yet. According to RedHat.com I
> need version 3.60 or higher to work with the latest ServeRaid driver.
> 2. I have changed the terminations in the SCSI configuration utility
to
> active at both ends.
> 3. I disabled sync and disconnect for SCSI peripherals.
> 4. I have changed the CARD Device ID from 7 to 0, as mentioned.
> 5. When it boots it does report SCSI devices: 4 logical drives, CDROM
> and Tape drive.
> 6. When I boot from CD  -just before it reads the CD- it reports: No
> SCSI boot devices found.
>
> Questions:
> 1. Does anybody know how top solve this?
> 2. How can I get more diagnostic information from the setup program.
> 3. If the SCSI Controller driver loaded correctly, is it necessary to
> load drivers for SCSI CDROM's, or SCSI tape drives.
>
> --
> AJ van Staden
> Cyber Seal Business and Industrial Information systems
> Pta Office Tel: +27 12 998 5674, Pta Office Fax: +27 12 998 0249,
> Cell: +27 82 927 5513
>

You have a ServeRAID 2 in a 330, which will not work, unsupported
driver.   A ServeRAID 3 or higher will.  I am referring to the card
model, not the driver or firmware level.

The imbedded adaptec will work, I have installed 6.2 on a 330.   The
problem you will run into is video.  Do not test video or it will
hang.  Use generic video support


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Installation fails for Adaptec (AIC7880) SCSI Controller
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 20:31:01 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Jaco van Staden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All
>
> I am trying to install RH 6.2 on a IBM PC 330 Server which uses an
> Adaptec SCSI controller and an IBM ServeRaid Raid controller. It seems
> as if the SCSI controller driver is not loaded correctly.
>
> Problem:
>
> I boot from the CD and after the kernel loaded it says AIC7xxx
loading.
> Thereafter, it asks which installation medium to use; CDROM or Hard
> Drive. I then choose CDROM and it asks for SCSI or Other. I select
SCSI
> (it is a SCSI CDROM). Then it presents a list of driver options, but
> nothing for CDROM's. Instead it looks like SCSI controller cards
> -without the AIC7xxx in the list. No matter what I select it just goes
> back to the list again.
>
> If I select the Hard Drive for installation medium it does exactly the
> same as with the CDROM.
>
> What I have tried:
>
> 1. I downloaded the latest boot image from Redhat.com which includes
the
> latest ServeRaid driver. It changes nothing.
> 2. I downloaded the latest AIC7xxx driver from RedHat. It still asks
for
> a CDROM driver, but this time the AIC7xxx driver is included in the
> list. I select it. It then loads and show CD is initialising, but then
> it goes back to the driver list and this driver is not their anymore.
> >From there on it is exactly the same as described in the problem
above.
>
> The System:
>
> Server Type: IMB PC server 330
> SCSI controller: AIC7880 chipset. I don't know which AHA card. but I
> think it is AHA-294x -that is what MS NT reports.
> Raid Controller: IBM ServeRaid.
> CDROM: Plextor SCSI, PX20TSI
> Tape Drive: SCSI. I don't know which type.
> SCSI DEVICE ID: The card was at 7. I changed it to 0. It reports no
> other devices.
> CPU: Pentium 2.
> It is currently running MS NT.
>
> Other remarks:
> 1. I have not checked the bios version yet. According to RedHat.com I
> need version 3.60 or higher to work with the latest ServeRaid driver.
> 2. I have changed the terminations in the SCSI configuration utility
to
> active at both ends.
> 3. I disabled sync and disconnect for SCSI peripherals.
> 4. I have changed the CARD Device ID from 7 to 0, as mentioned.
> 5. When it boots it does report SCSI devices: 4 logical drives, CDROM
> and Tape drive.
> 6. When I boot from CD  -just before it reads the CD- it reports: No
> SCSI boot devices found.
>
> Questions:
> 1. Does anybody know how top solve this?
> 2. How can I get more diagnostic information from the setup program.
> 3. If the SCSI Controller driver loaded correctly, is it necessary to
> load drivers for SCSI CDROM's, or SCSI tape drives.
>
> --
> AJ van Staden
> Cyber Seal Business and Industrial Information systems
> Pta Office Tel: +27 12 998 5674, Pta Office Fax: +27 12 998 0249,
> Cell: +27 82 927 5513
>

Correction,  I forgot, some 330's came with an imbedded ServeRAID 2.
If this is the case, forget it,  Disable the onboard in the bios, and
put in a PCI Adaptec SCSI card.


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From: "Ergophobe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dual boot with Win2K (not 98 or NT) ??
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 12:41:20 -0700


"Phil Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8ram46$q7m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Lots of information out there about dual-booting with 98 or NT, but I
don't
> see anything about using Lose2K.  Other than that people seem to be doing
> it scuccessfully.

Huh?  there are several ongoing threads about this.  It comes up every week
and I posted a couple of things last week that Patrick successfully used
over the weekend to install a dual boot.  Look at the "Best way to Partition
my harddisk" thread on this newsgroup (some URLs included in one of my
posts).  Also do a deja for Tim Prince's posts on alt.os.linux.caldera
"Win2k dual boot w/ Linux on slave".

Tom



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From: "Ergophobe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Recomended Motherboards for K6-2 and K6-3
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 13:47:04 -0700

I missed the original post, but the best sites I know for mother board info
are

www.anandtech.com

http://www.sharkyextreme.com/

Niehter one is linux oriented, and both are aimed at over-clockers, gamers
and performance hounds.  Still, the reviews, especially on anandtech, are
in-depth and thorough.

Tom



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