Linux-Setup Digest #761, Volume #19               Wed, 4 Oct 00 12:13:13 EDT

Contents:
  Is there a new raid patch for rh 2.2.(14,15,16,17) kernel ? ("Haniel G. Mercedes")
  Re: slow? (Jeph Herrin)
  Re: slow? (Jeph Herrin)
  How to disable "Dropin's boot-time commands?" (Roger Blake)
  Re: inetd.conf in RH7.0?? (Justin Miles)
  Installation of Redhat 7.0 over v 6.2 question. ("Darryl HB")
  KDE System Sounds (Tony Steidler-Dennison)
  Re: inetd.conf in RH7.0?? (Paul Black)
  Re: Linux having trouble with Athlon/Thunderdbird? (McManus Leo Root DSP Consultant)
  Re: RH7.0 Problems - new user (Justin Miles)
  Re: Microsoft Intellimouse with scroll wheel (Michael Meissner)
  Re: KDE System Sounds (Derek Jolly)
  Re: slow? (Hal Burgiss)
  Re: Which shell to use, sh, csh, tcsh or bash? ("Justin Dubs")
  Re: modem in Redhat 7.0 ("Justin Dubs")
  Re: kernel compile clarifications (Vilmos Soti)
  Re: How to auto start Samba - RedHat 7.0 ("Eric Jennings")
  Installing drivers for nic under mandrake7.0 (Southboy)
  Re: LILO doesn't boot Win98 ("Weedle Fidbaum")
  Problems with modules in Kernel 2.2.17 (Lew Pitcher)

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Reply-To: "Haniel G. Mercedes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Haniel G. Mercedes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Is there a new raid patch for rh 2.2.(14,15,16,17) kernel ?
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 12:22:28 -0400

I am having problem configuring a Raid 0 under Linux rh 6.1 with 2.2.14
kernel, but I did not found any patch for 2.2.14,
is there a new raid patch that I can use for 2.2.14.

I was looking around some ftp linux sites, but I didn't find any,
the most recent version that I found was for 2.2.11 kernel,
it is "raid0145-19990824-2.2.11.tar.gz"
=================================================================
root@puma /root]# mkraid /dev/md0
handling MD device /dev/md0
analyzing super-block
disk 0: /dev/sdc1, 17775891kB, raid superblock at 17775808kB
disk 1: /dev/sdd1, 17775891kB, raid superblock at 17775808kB
disk 2: /dev/sde1, 17775891kB, raid superblock at 17775808kB
disk 3: /dev/sdf1, 17775891kB, raid superblock at 17775808kB
disk 4: /dev/sdg1, 17775891kB, raid superblock at 17775808kB
mkraid: aborted, see the syslog and /proc/mdstat for potential clues.=====>
(This is the error)

Any site idea to solve it or any ftp site with a raid patch for 2.2.14
kernel ?

Thanks,
Haniel Mercedes
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





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From: Jeph Herrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: slow?
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 17:20:29 +0200

Thanks for all the hints. These two seem most
promising:

Hal Burgiss wrote:
> 
> >the system monitor shows all the ram, with most of it (~55mb) in use
> >with no apps running. i don't seem to have any hoggy processes running
> >in the back, and i've got a 250MB swap file (which, however, sometimes
> >is flagged as FAILED for shut down while halting the machine). the
> 
> Something wrong here. Use 'free' to make sure swap is being used. If
> not, things can really drag. You might try recreating the swap partition
> too. See 'mkswap' man page.
> 

Here's what 'free' gives with Gnome +E + Netscape running. No fancy 
backgrounds etc. 

             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:         63036      61568       1468      41492       2232      37556
-/+ buffers/cache:      21780      41256
Swap:       262196       4048     258148

Is this what I should expect? Thought more swap would be used.

> >video card has 1MB, not a lot, but it shouldn't make the machine crawl
> >(should it?).
> 
> Not if the card has good support from Xfree86 and is configured right.
> Go to their website and check your card/chipset. Sometimes there are
> surprising comments, and tricks to get better performance.
> 

Well, this is an open question. the xfree86 website had details for
my card (AT24 chipset, Alliance Promotion card), but they didn't 
work, so i had to finagle a bit to get it to go. i wrote xfree86 about 
this, but no reply. maybe go back to generic 600x400? i could try to
see if it improves performance, but then i can hardly use the thing
(and i may never luck into the right configuration again).

thanks again,
jeph
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Jeph Herrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: slow?
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 17:21:02 +0200

Thanks for all the hints. These two seem most
promising:

Hal Burgiss wrote:
> 
> >the system monitor shows all the ram, with most of it (~55mb) in use
> >with no apps running. i don't seem to have any hoggy processes running
> >in the back, and i've got a 250MB swap file (which, however, sometimes
> >is flagged as FAILED for shut down while halting the machine). the
> 
> Something wrong here. Use 'free' to make sure swap is being used. If
> not, things can really drag. You might try recreating the swap partition
> too. See 'mkswap' man page.
> 

Here's what 'free' gives with Gnome +E + Netscape running. No fancy 
backgrounds etc. 

             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:         63036      61568       1468      41492       2232      37556
-/+ buffers/cache:      21780      41256
Swap:       262196       4048     258148

Is this what I should expect? Thought more swap would be used.

> >video card has 1MB, not a lot, but it shouldn't make the machine crawl
> >(should it?).
> 
> Not if the card has good support from Xfree86 and is configured right.
> Go to their website and check your card/chipset. Sometimes there are
> surprising comments, and tricks to get better performance.
> 

Well, this is an open question. the xfree86 website had details for
my card (AT24 chipset, Alliance Promotion card), but they didn't 
work, so i had to finagle a bit to get it to go. i wrote xfree86 about 
this, but no reply. maybe go back to generic 600x400? i could try to
see if it improves performance, but then i can hardly use the thing
(and i may never luck into the right configuration again).

thanks again,
jeph
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger Blake)
Crossposted-To:  comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: How to disable "Dropin's boot-time commands?"
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 15:21:43 GMT

How can I disable "Dropin's boot-time commands" from running when
booting up?  I'm getting tired of linuxconf trying to diddle around
with my system every time I start it up. So far no luck in trying
to figure out where this is being kicked off in the init scripts...

-- 
  Roger Blake
  (remove second "g" and second "m" from address for email)

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From: Justin Miles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: inetd.conf in RH7.0??
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 17:24:46 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Try /etc/inetd.conf~ might have been copied
during the installation process
cp inetd.conf~ inetd.conf

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I cannot find 'inetd.conf' in RH7.0
> Does anyone can find it?
> 
> Thanks a lot!!
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

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From: "Darryl HB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Installation of Redhat 7.0 over v 6.2 question.
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 23:28:43 +0800

Hi, all. I have in my Hard drive Redhat version 6.2. I was just wondering if
I were to get version 7.0, would I need to reformat and reinstall all my
applications again or I can just do an upgrade (something like from Windows
98 to windows 2000)?

Thanks,

Darryl



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From: Tony Steidler-Dennison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: KDE System Sounds
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 15:38:19 GMT

I posted this question to other groups and, surprisingly, got no answer.
You gurus have been so *good* about answering questions ... I hope someone
will be able to help with this simple problem.

I can't seem to enable the system sounds in KDE/RH 6.1. The sound card is
configured properly, as XMMS and other multimedia apps work well. I've
also checked 'enable system sounds' in the control panel. Still, nothing
happens.

Is there some configuration element outside these that will work?

Thanks.



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From: Paul Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: inetd.conf in RH7.0??
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 15:33:49 +0000

Justin Miles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Try /etc/inetd.conf~ might have been copied
> during the installation process
> cp inetd.conf~ inetd.conf
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > I cannot find 'inetd.conf' in RH7.0
> > Does anyone can find it?
> >
> > Thanks a lot!!
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.

Try quoting the right way round.

There is no inetd.conf. Have a look at xinetd.conf and xinetd.d

Paul

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From: McManus Leo Root DSP Consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux having trouble with Athlon/Thunderdbird?
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 17:35:11 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have a Athalon Socket 750 on an MSI motherboard running SuSE 6.4 with
the VIA bridge and sound chip set and all is well.

Leo



Carlos Moreno wrote:

> Please tell me that this is just another stupid
> propaganda/rumour!
>
> I heard from a friend of mine that I always thought
> was knowledgeable in Linux, that the Athlon CPU does
> not work properly with Linux? (well, Linux doesn't
> work properly with the Athlon).
>
> I really fail to see how this is possible.  But hey,
> I've learned to "never say never", so I thought I'd
> ask here...  I'm really hoping that you will confirm
> that it is just a stupid rumour...  Because I really
> don't want to go the Intel way...  And DEFINITELY,
> once I upgrade my hardware to an Athlon, I **really**
> don't want to go the Windows way!!!  :-)
>
> Thanks for any comments!
>
> Carlos
> --


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From: Justin Miles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH7.0 Problems - new user
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 17:41:12 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Russ Hazzon wrote:
> 
> getting the web based LINUXCONF to run via http://mymachine:98, but alas
> no go.
Try /sbin/linuxconf
http://mymachine:98
=================== 
netconf -> Linuxconf network access -> Enter your IP address
> 
> Are these errors/problems isolated to my system, or is this supposed to
Good question also upgraded from 6.2 -> 7 various funnies occuring
Apache main index.html page renamed
FTP cannot ftp in
IMAP cannot to UW IMAP server, working in RH6.2
Sendmail: 8.9.3 -> 8.11.1 relaying denied errors from a working system
etc/inetd.conf renamed to /etc/inetd.conf~

More than likely my inexperience

Regards
Justin Miles

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Microsoft Intellimouse with scroll wheel
From: Michael Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 04 Oct 2000 11:45:01 -0400

"Ali" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Can anyone point me at an appropriate website with full instructions for
> getting this too work. I have read articles on newsgroups but they seem to
> get confusing with regard to changing the config file pointer section e.g
> should it be 5 buttons and also commenting out emulate 3 button mouse all
> somewhat confusing.

        http://www.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll 

-- 
Michael Meissner, Red Hat, Inc.
PMB 198, 174 Littleton Road #3, Westford, Massachusetts 01886, USA
Work:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]           phone: +1 978-486-9304
Non-work: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   fax:   +1 978-692-4482

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Derek Jolly)
Subject: Re: KDE System Sounds
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 15:45:19 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony Steidler-Dennison), in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, wrote

>I can't seem to enable the system sounds in KDE/RH 6.1. The sound card is
>configured properly, as XMMS and other multimedia apps work well. I've
>also checked 'enable system sounds' in the control panel. Still, nothing
>happens.
>
>Is there some configuration element outside these that will work?

Have you actually assigned any of the sounds to events?  By default
all the events have no sound associated with them, so you need to select
which one to map to each event from within the control panel.
-- 
* Derek Jolly  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])  (Remove the 'x' for e-mail)  *
* For 50/60Hz PSX Action Replay switch codes and some Speccy stuff   *
* check out my homepage on http://www.redrival.com/rivet/            *
* Now playing: Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force (PC)                   *

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: slow?
Reply-To: Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 15:46:15 GMT

On Wed, 04 Oct 2000 17:20:29 +0200, Jeph Herrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >in the back, and i've got a 250MB swap file (which, however, sometimes
>> >is flagged as FAILED for shut down while halting the machine). the
>> 
>> Something wrong here. Use 'free' to make sure swap is being used. If
>> not, things can really drag. You might try recreating the swap partition
>> too. See 'mkswap' man page.
>> 
>
>Here's what 'free' gives with Gnome +E + Netscape running. No fancy 
>backgrounds etc. 
>
>             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
>Mem:         63036      61568       1468      41492       2232      37556
>-/+ buffers/cache:      21780      41256
>Swap:       262196       4048     258148
>
>Is this what I should expect? Thought more swap would be used.

How much swap is being used depends on several factors. This looks
fairly normal if X has not been running to long, ie not enough time to
eat up some buffers/cache.

The error message still worries me. That is definitely not normal. I'd
be concerned that the swap may be corrupted or something. Don't think
this accounts for a slow down, but corrupted memory is not a good thing
;) But just based on this output, I'd say swap is functioning. Someone
else mentioned hparm. This is a good idea. Read the man page first, and
if no reason to be concerned, then to 'hdparm -d1 /dev/whatever'. This
can really help disk access.

>> >video card has 1MB, not a lot, but it shouldn't make the machine crawl
>> >(should it?).
>> 
>> Not if the card has good support from Xfree86 and is configured
>> right. Go to their website and check your card/chipset. Sometimes
>> there are surprising comments, and tricks to get better performance.
>> 
>
>Well, this is an open question. the xfree86 website had details for
>my card (AT24 chipset, Alliance Promotion card), but they didn't 
>work, so i had to finagle a bit to get it to go. i wrote xfree86 about 
>this, but no reply. maybe go back to generic 600x400? i could try to
>see if it improves performance, but then i can hardly use the thing
>(and i may never luck into the right configuration again).

I would suspect the answer is here somewhere. You might try different
color depths. Are you 24 or 32 now? If so drop to 16. Are you running
the latest X server? Not meaning 4.x, but would at least be 3.3.6.

-- 
Hal B
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--

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From: "Justin Dubs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which shell to use, sh, csh, tcsh or bash?
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:14:48 -0400

switch to Bash and never look back!  :-)  i'm serious.  It has a lot of
wonderful features that will grow on you.  filename and directory name
completion via the TAB key.  a wonderful history.  a directory stack.
functions.  great scripting abilities.  i love it.  however, this may be one
of those holy wars you have stumbled into, alone the same lines as vi vs
emacs.  however, my preference is bash.

Justin Dubs



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From: "Justin Dubs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: modem in Redhat 7.0
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:19:02 -0400

If you are a newbie, or really anyone for that matter, you shouldn't be
running redhat 7.0.  I would downgrade to 6.2 if I were you and then upgrade
when 7.1 or 7.2 comes out.  Redhat's .0 releases are notoriously buggy and
this one is supposed to be the worst one so far.  Just a suggestion,

Justin Dubs



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Subject: Re: kernel compile clarifications
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 15:54:01 GMT

Zhihui Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Thanks a lot! One more question: After I have several kernels, which
> command I can use to find out the kernel I am using right now after
> booting?

uname -a

Vilmos

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From: "Eric Jennings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to auto start Samba - RedHat 7.0
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 15:56:35 GMT

Thanks for your help. It seems with samba in RedHat 7.0, you can use the
start, stop, status... commands.
So in my rc.local file I added
samba start

Thanks again, Eric Jennings

"Lavinius (Romio) Petru" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:39daf8ab$0$12423$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> umm.... or in rc.local just add
>
> smbd
> nmbd
>
>
> Weiting Cao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Here's the way to work it out:
> >
> > /etc/rc.d/rc3.d
> > ln -s ../init.d/smb       S85smbd
> > ln -s ../init.d/snmpd   S50snmpd
> >
> >
> > That's it.
> >
> > Pierre
> >
> > ejennings wrote:
> >
> > > I was able to configure samba, it seems to work fine, however every
> > > time I reboot I have to manually start it.  I would have thought that
> > > the installation would have setup samba to start when booting.
> > >
> > > Any help would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > > Before you buy.
> >
>
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Southboy)
Subject: Installing drivers for nic under mandrake7.0
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 15:56:12 GMT

Just got a message back from Roaring Penguin that rppppoe is not
seeing my nic. It's a Dlink pci 10/100. Anyway, I never installed the
drivers for it, I just selected the chipset for it under netconfig.
Apparently that didn't do it. So, I figured out how to get the
included Makefile to work, but the included instructions say:

step 4: bind your card to an IP address

          /sbin/ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} broadcast ${BROADCAST} 
          netmask ${NETMASK}
          (run 'netstat -i' to see if there is a interface 'eth0')

First, this is the only puter I have, I'm trying to connect through
dsl, I don't have a static IP. Do I use a phony IP address, if so,
what? Also, what about the "{BROADCAST}" & "{NETMASK}", what do I put
in there? What's the proper syntax? Do I include the "{}" brackets or
not?

Any help would be greatly appreciated from a Linux newbie!

Jeremy

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From: "Weedle Fidbaum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO doesn't boot Win98
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 18:02:35 +0200

Have you done a 'lilo -l'? (Without the quotes.)

I had a similar problem, and when I used the linear option "-l" I was able
to boot up both linux and win98 on a 27Gig disk.

G'luck!

"Oliver D. Bedford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
>   I have the following setup:
>
>   Linux installed on a SCSI-Disk (/dev/sda, 4GB), Win98
> on secondary IDE (/dev/hdc, 14GB, /dev/hdc1 = c:, 5 GB,
> /dev/hdc5 = d:, 5 GB, /dev/hdc6 = e:, used for
> exchanging data).
>
>   In my lilo.conf I have:
>
> other=/dev/hdc1
> label=win
> table=/dev/hdc
>
>   but Win98 is not booting, all I get is "L?L?".
>
>   If I change the boot sequence in the bios Win98
> boots fine.
>
>   Any help greatly appreciated,
> Oliver
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Problems with modules in Kernel 2.2.17
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 16:08:33 GMT

Please excuse this if you've already read it. I believe my ISP's
usenet feed is out of whack, so I'm resending the message.

I'm in the process of upgrading my Slackware Linux 7.0 system from
kernel 2.2.13 to the latest kernel (2.2.17). I've applied all the
kernel patches and have selected my configuration via make xconfig.
The kernel and module make process runs properly (no errors reported),
but when I boot my new image, I get various failures relating to the
module support I've selected. depmod -ae 2.2.17 shows some problems
with the FAT (vfat, etc.) and NFS modules (IIRC some undefined
externals), and the kernel/kerneld doesn't autoload these modules, but
modprobe will load them and they work properly when loaded that way.
I've tried this with kmod both enabled and disabled, and the results
are similar both times (kmod enabled gets a 'looping condition' in
kmod about the time init starts up; I can resolve this if I make SysV
networking part of the monolithic kernel rather than a module).

I'd really like to install modules rather than use a monolithic
kernel, but so far, I've had to include a large number of
module-capable features in the kernel just to get through the boot
process.

I noticed that Slackware 7.0 built the same features into a monolithic
kernel (bare.i) as well, so I believe that this might be a 'feature'
of the later 2.2 kernels.

I realize I'm short on detail here (I'm far away from the machine at
the moment), so I'll post a followup with the /usr/src/linux/.config
file and the depmod -ae 2.2.17 output later. For now, I'll just ask if
anyone else has run into problems of this nature, and how (if) these
problems can be resolved?

Any advice would be appreciated.


Lew Pitcher
([EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED])

Lew Pitcher
Information Technology Consultant
Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group

([EMAIL PROTECTED])


(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)

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