Linux-Setup Digest #765, Volume #19 Thu, 5 Oct 00 05:13:07 EDT
Contents:
How do I get text-only login? (Mike Oliver)
Re: IDENT install ("pl")
Re: How do I get text-only login? (Glitch)
Re: Mandrake 7.1 won't install on partition (Glitch)
Mouse stops clicking in X ("J.Smith")
Re: linux configuration (Glitch)
Re: Mouse stops clicking in X (Jay Ho)
1)shared drives 2)WINE 3)sound card (Jay Ho)
Re: RH7.0 Problems - new user (Justin Miles)
Re: LILO doesn't boot Win98 (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
Re: What is fat32x?? (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
Re: How do I get text-only login? (Eric)
Re: partitioning for a new user (Eric)
Re: MS Netmeeting under Linux? (Bill Gates)
Re: Setting time zone in Redhat (Villy Kruse)
That Old Linux/Solaris Swap Partition Question. (Larry Lindstrom)
Re: any hope? (win98 upgrade, lost mbr, no boot disk) (Thomas Regner)
Re: any hope? (win98 upgrade, lost mbr, no boot disk) (Eric)
Re: LiLo and dual O.S. (Eric)
howto kill a process in state D? (Kristof Beyls)
WTF does ^s do in pico? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: PCMCIA problem. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Mike Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How do I get text-only login?
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 20:34:45 -0700
sndconfig says it doesn't want to be run with XWindows. Yes,
I know I can use linuxconf to set the default to not starting
XWindows, but that's not the idea; I want to boot the GUI by
default, but have the option not to.
Is there something I can type at the
LILO Boot:
prompt that will accomplish this?
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From: "pl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IDENT install
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 04:19:27 GMT
> 2 questions actually..
>
> 1> BitchX and Xchat both ask for Ident to be installed. I know how to do it
> in windows.. but no idea in linux.. i am running mandrake 7.1
>
here's a link (at the site, there are a couple of other links, one which points
to a simple fakeident script --it doesn't fake the hostname or anything, but
its a quick solution)
http://www.linuxpeople.cc/howdoi/xfelix_howdoi/xfelix_identd.htm
> 2> where can i find a good telnet program that uses ssh1 ? is there one in
> mandrake or kde?
telnet program that uses ssh?
ssh replaces telnet. If you have ssh installed/configured, you can "telnet"
with the ssh command. Try "man ssh" for more info.
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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 01:10:57 -0400
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I get text-only login?
depending on which distro u are using runlevel 3 may be the one you
want, or it may be runlevel 2.....just type 'linux 2' or 'linux 3' at
the LILO prompt and it will boot to the appropriate runlevel.
Mike Oliver wrote:
>
> sndconfig says it doesn't want to be run with XWindows. Yes,
> I know I can use linuxconf to set the default to not starting
> XWindows, but that's not the idea; I want to boot the GUI by
> default, but have the option not to.
>
> Is there something I can type at the
> LILO Boot:
> prompt that will accomplish this?
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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 01:13:57 -0400
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.1 won't install on partition
it's b/c your root partition is beyond the 1024th cylinder of the drive,
which is a problem with the BIOS. In order for Linux to boot the root
partition has to be under the 1024th cylinder.
NuZzY wrote:
>
> I have a 36GB hard drive that I have set up three ways:
>
> 1. 4GB NT Partition
> 2. 28GB 2000 Partition
> 3. 4GB unallocated space.
>
> 1 and 2 are dual-boot.
>
> I'm trying to install linux to the unallocated space, but when I run
> the install it blows away my Win2K O/S. I've also tried RH 6.2 and
> made the 3rd partition ext2 with Partition Magic, but when I go to
> create my root dir it says "size too large", even with 1MB as a test.
> Can anyone help me?
>
> George Nussbaum
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "J.Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Mouse stops clicking in X
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 07:11:59 +0100
Hi.
I seem to be having a weird problem in X. Sometimes, my mouse does no longer
seem able to click on anything anymore. Even though I can still move the
mousecursor, a mouseclick has no response. At these times, my keyboard still
works fine, and so does everything else. At first I thought that I was
having a IRQ conflict or something, but since my mouse is on com1 and my
modem on com2 this should not be the problem. I have a standard Microsoft
serial mouse, and am running XFree86 3.3.6 with KDE 1.1.2 on Mandrake v7.1.
I have no idea where to start looking to solve this issue. If anyone could
give me some pointers on how to solve this, that would be greatly
appreciated. Also, if i'm newbie enough to have left out critical
configuration information, let me know so I can post that as well.
Thanks.
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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 01:19:42 -0400
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux configuration
depends on what kind of server you want. THere is no 'best' computer
for linux. It all depends on what you need/want.
news ibm wrote:
>
> Hi, I was wondering what is the recomended linux configuration server? what
> is the best computer to run linux?
> thanks.
> Dylan
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From: Jay Ho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Mouse stops clicking in X
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 22:44:59 -0700
hmmm... try running xconf again... although that doesn't solve the porblem 100%
of the time, since I had to go into the configuration manually and change the
mouse setting to something xconf did not have listed. good luch
Jay
"J.Smith" wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I seem to be having a weird problem in X. Sometimes, my mouse does no longer
> seem able to click on anything anymore. Even though I can still move the
> mousecursor, a mouseclick has no response. At these times, my keyboard still
> works fine, and so does everything else. At first I thought that I was
> having a IRQ conflict or something, but since my mouse is on com1 and my
> modem on com2 this should not be the problem. I have a standard Microsoft
> serial mouse, and am running XFree86 3.3.6 with KDE 1.1.2 on Mandrake v7.1.
> I have no idea where to start looking to solve this issue. If anyone could
> give me some pointers on how to solve this, that would be greatly
> appreciated. Also, if i'm newbie enough to have left out critical
> configuration information, let me know so I can post that as well.
>
> Thanks.
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From: Jay Ho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 1)shared drives 2)WINE 3)sound card
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 22:47:01 -0700
hi.
here are some problems i am having with Red Hat Linux 6.1
1) I can't get rwx priviledges for anybody but root when I mount my
other hard drives. I tried using chmod and chown and fstab, but for
some reason, it says I am denied permission to change these settings. I
thought root was superman who could do anything.
2) I can't get WINE to work.. it says it windows is not located in
c:\windows, even though it is... i changed the wine.conf settings to
point to all the correct drives, but I think the problem stems from (1).
3) Anyone know how to get a SBLive! Value card to work on kernel
2.2.12-20? the linux drivers that Creative has are for 2.2.5-15, and
they don't work... I tried using ASAC or whatever it is called, but I
got confused halfway through the setup process.
thanks
Jay
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From: Justin Miles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH7.0 Problems - new user
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 07:54:30 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Boy how did I miss that xinetd.d
Thanks for the help
"ne..." wrote:
>
> On Oct 4, 2000 at 17:41, Justin Miles eloquently wrote:
>
> >Russ Hazzon wrote:
> >>
> >> getting the web based LINUXCONF to run via http://mymachine:98, but alas
> >> no go.
> >Try /sbin/linuxconf
> >http://mymachine:98
> >-------------------
> >netconf -> Linuxconf network access -> Enter your IP address
> >>
> >> Are these errors/problems isolated to my system, or is this supposed to
> >Good question also upgraded from 6.2 -> 7 various funnies occuring
> >Apache main index.html page renamed
> >FTP cannot ftp in
> Which ftp packages did you install. I have ncftp on 1 machine
> and ftp'd to anotha and could get in as a user on that machine.
> Check you /etc/xinetd.d/ directory for the wu-ftpd file.
>
> >IMAP cannot to UW IMAP server, working in RH6.2
> >Sendmail: 8.9.3 -> 8.11.1 relaying denied errors from a working system
> Cause 8.11.1 was there latest. You did backup before
> upgrading so you can copy the sendmail.cf from RH6.2
> to /etc/mail and restart sendmail.
Yes I did backup
>
> >etc/inetd.conf renamed to /etc/inetd.conf~
> Inetd went out the door. Xinetd took it's place.
>
> Make sure you read the reference manual this has many
> other goodies for you.
>
> --
> Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org)
> Don't hate yourself in the morning -- sleep till noon.
> 12:58pm up 3 days, 14:45, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
--
Regards
Justin Miles
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
Subject: Re: LILO doesn't boot Win98
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 06:10:03 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Oliver D. Bedford) wrote:
>other=/dev/hdc1
> label=win
> table=/dev/hdc
http://inet.uni2.dk/~svolaf/part.txt
--
Svend Olaf
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
Subject: Re: What is fat32x??
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 06:17:12 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt) wrote:
>The 'b' or 'c' type has to do with partition size, not where it is on the
>disk. A FAT32 partition (primary or logical) that is < 1024 cyl in size
>is type b, even if it is (or extends) beyond cyl 1024. For example on my
>laptop the drive ends at cyl 1099 and the last logical partition is type
>'b' created by Win98 fdisk.
Wrong. Type 0C or 0B defines whether extended interrupt 13h should be
used or not. If a partition ends cylinder 1024 or later, extended
interrupt 13h must be used. For a logical partition this however is
defined in the type of the extended partition, so 0B is always used.
And why do you use a logical partition as example?
--
Svend Olaf
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I get text-only login?
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 08:46:04 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Glitch wrote:
>
> depending on which distro u are using runlevel 3 may be the one you
> want, or it may be runlevel 2.....just type 'linux 2' or 'linux 3' at
> the LILO prompt and it will boot to the appropriate runlevel.
>
> Mike Oliver wrote:
> >
> > sndconfig says it doesn't want to be run with XWindows. Yes,
> > I know I can use linuxconf to set the default to not starting
> > XWindows, but that's not the idea; I want to boot the GUI by
> > default, but have the option not to.
> >
> > Is there something I can type at the
> > LILO Boot:
> > prompt that will accomplish this?
Or if you already booted, there's no need to reboot you system to get
into another runlevel. As root you can enter `init 3` (ie. for RH, don't
know for other distro's) and the machine will go to runlevel 3. After
you're done,
`init 5` wil bring you back in the previous runlevel 5
Eric
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: partitioning for a new user
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 08:52:23 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mike Oliver wrote:
>
> garvin wrote:
> >
> > i was looking at the FAQ's for setting up redhat linux on the web, and seems
> > like it would be best to set up like 5 partition or something like that linux.
> > however, i am VERY new to linux, so should i still set up all these partitions?
> > or should i just set up /swap and /root partitions, and learn how those work...
>
> The install guide for redhat suggests that you just put in a (large) root
> partition mounted at / , a boot partition mounted at /boot, and a swap
> partition. That's the way I have mine set up at the moment. It also
> says that /boot should not be larger than 16M (what do you do if
> a single cylinder is bigger than that?).
Doesn't really matter, There's just no NEED for a big /boot.
>
> A point that confused me: The swap partition is *not* called /swap;
> in fact, you don't mount the swap partition at all. You just create
> a partition of type "Linux swap" and that's all you have to do.
Nothing strange, you can have multiple swap partitions, or even swap
files. It's not a part of the normal filesystem structure, but can be
added. It's not accesible by normal users (you cannot cd into swapspace)
for obvious reasons.
> However I'm not sure you can do that with Disk Druid. There's
> a thing that looks like a drop-down control for choosing the partition
> type, but I couldn't get it to work. I had to go into fdisk
> and change the type using the "t" option
You can use diskdruid just fine for this, just choose the swap option.
It always worked for me.
>
> Don't go hog-wild on the swap partition. Linux can't use more than
> 127M (or is it 128?) of swap in a single partition, so if you make
> it bigger than that you're just wasting disk. If you need more swap space,
> you can create more than one swap partition, but I wouldn't do that
> to start with.
Old info, swap space now-a-days can easily be larger. (I don't know the
limit)
Eric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Gates)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS Netmeeting under Linux?
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 06:58:28 GMT
On Wed, 04 Oct 2000 15:01:34 GMT, Bill Pringlemeir
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The MBone tools are multiplatform tools for videoconferencing (video,
audio, whiteboarding, chat etc.).
this is a place where you can get it:
http://www-mice.cs.ucl.ac.uk/multimedia/software/index.html
BIll.
>>>>>> "John" == John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> John> An interesting looking thing, but is there anything that will
> John> do cross platform telephony or audio video conferencing ?
>
>Speak Freely. "http://www.speakfreely.org/"
>
>Bill
>
>--
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>Ortega Treasury plutonium Panama colonel Albanian smuggle Noriega
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: Setting time zone in Redhat
Date: 5 Oct 2000 07:17:02 GMT
On Wed, 04 Oct 2000 19:55:12 GMT,
Richard Caron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi all! Dell set up our Redhat and set the time zone for CDT. I can't
>find the way to change to EDT. It's important for a project we're
>doing. Any clues? TIA
>
Run the "setup" command and follow the menu.
Villy
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From: Larry Lindstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: That Old Linux/Solaris Swap Partition Question.
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 23:39:57 -0700
Hi Linux Experts:
I've been a Solaris user for many years. I'm
interested in doing Linux development. I've known
about that swap partition id problem for a while,
and I've been reading up on it today.
The http://sun.drydog.com/faq/9.html page seems
to say that this problem started with Redhat 6.1
and:
This "gotcha" was removed from the RedHat
6.2 list, so hopefully the problem doesn't
occur with newer versions of RedHat Linux.
I would like to install Redhat Linux 7 on my
Solaris development PC. Is this partition ID
still a problem? I can recover Solaris from
tape if things get too screwed up, but I'd like
to avoid that task.
If it is still a problem:
Is this only a problem on installation?
Aren't duplicate, and misidentified
partitions going to confuse either OS when
it is running? Do I have to muck with
these partition IDs each time I run either
OS?
Solaris, in particular the C++ compiler, likes
lots of swap space regardless of memory. I have
a gig of it on each of my three physical drives,
and a half a gig of memory. Does Linux like swap
space with so much memory? This is a C++ and web
development machine for Solaris, and soon for
Linux.
This is off the topic, but while I have your
attention... Gcc isn't considered the optimal
compiler for Solaris, even though it's now
shipped with the OS. What is the hot C++
compiler for Linux?
Thanks
Larry
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From: Thomas Regner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: any hope? (win98 upgrade, lost mbr, no boot disk)
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 10:02:14 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aslak Johansen wrote:
[...]
> There is, however, still a problem: How will Win98 react to your LILO?
> Microsoft has been pretty successfull in making their OS'es incompatibl=
e
> with other boot-managers. The safe way is to either install 'loadlin' o=
r
> to create a boot-disk.
[...]
As far as I know, this is no problem at all...
Win98 is bootable from lilo, and this is no microsoft issue...
regards
tom
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: any hope? (win98 upgrade, lost mbr, no boot disk)
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 10:21:35 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RCD wrote:
>
> hi,
>
> thanks for the useful info,
>
> I'll try booting from the cd, then loadlin.
More trouble than LILO if you ask me, but that's a matter of opinion.
>
> Yeah, I think you're right about installing LILO. I've read that
> re-installing it may make
> win98 unbootable. I think I'll have to stick to a boot disk until this
That's just bullshit, LILO is very wel capable of booting win98. I've
done this so many times, and never encountered any problem whatsoever.
Just boot linux, either from CD or floppy and rerun LILO. All you need
is an entry in lilo.conf that points to the partition where win98 is
installed. There's nothing more to it to get win98 booted through LILO.
Just one thing you might want to consider, put lilo in a partitition and
not in the MBR, that way reinstalling win98 won't mess-up LILO.
Eric
> apparent problem is solved.
>
> (I just hope I can get in a make it)
>
> thanks again,
>
> ryan
>
> >
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LiLo and dual O.S.
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 10:23:47 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dcrane wrote:
>
> I have Linux 6.2 setup on my hda drive and have a Windows 98 disk that I
> would like to hook up to my configuration. My question is where in my LiLo
> configuration do I specify the correct settings for the hdb? Also, what
> should the configuration settings be? Basically where do I point LiLo to
> configure a dual boot machine.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave
Easiest is to read the info that comes with LILO (manpages etc.) You
will need to pay specific attention to the map-drive option of LILO.
Otherwise windows will be unbootable, as it expects to be on the first
drive, not on the second.
Eric
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From: Kristof Beyls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: howto kill a process in state D?
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 10:23:48 +0200
I have a number of processes that are stuck in the waiting state (state
D):
the output of "ps aux | grep D" is :
root 26362 0.0 0.0 1800 116 ? D Oct02 0:00 smbumount
tmp
root 29984 0.0 0.0 1148 92 ? D Oct02 0:00 find
/export/home
root 862 0.0 0.0 1220 164 ? D Oct03 0:00
/usr/bin/slocate
root 14448 0.0 0.0 1148 92 ? D Oct03 0:00 find
/export/home
root 17820 0.0 0.2 1220 556 ? D Oct04 0:00
/usr/bin/slocate
root 32504 0.0 0.1 1148 396 ? D Oct04 0:00 find
/export/home
root 3416 0.0 0.2 1224 556 ? D 04:01 0:00
/usr/bin/slocate
root 8129 0.0 0.1 1168 456 pts/9 S 10:14 0:00 grep D
They are stuck in state D because their working directory is a
sambadirectory which got unmounted.
I tried to kill these processes with "kill -9", but that doesn't work.
Does anyone know
how to remove these processes without reboot my machine?
Thanks,
Kristof
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: WTF does ^s do in pico?
Date: 5 Oct 2000 08:45:32 GMT
I can't find any info on this and it's royally pissing me off :)
I keep hitting CTRL+S when in pico and it seems to freeze the
entire connection and I can't do anythign excep sever my telnet connection.
Can someone stop this madness? How could I disable the CTRL+S key in pico?
'm so used to CTRL+S from Windows to save files... I'm not use d to using CTRL+O in
pico.
--
-T.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PCMCIA problem.
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 08:46:29 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
hover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Sure can:
> >
> > Module Size Used by
> > serial_cb 1088 1
> > tulip_cb 32528 1
> > cb_enabler 2600 4 [serial_cb tulip_cb]
> > usb-uhci 17000 0 (unused)
> > ds 6568 2 [cb_enabler]
> > i82365 22128 2
> > pcmcia_core 45184 0 [cb_enabler ds i82365]
> > serial 42612 0 (autoclean) [serial_cb]
> > memstat 1476 0 (unused)
> > usbcore 42344 1 [usb-uhci]
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > Bill.
> >
> > > I'm using this same Xircom CardBus.
> > > Can you provide the output from [/sbin/]lsmod
> > > Tx
> > >
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>
> Looks alike here (I run SuSE 6.4 on a COMPAQ Armada 1750 )
> Here's my workaround [root] command that enabled eth0 on the Xircom:
> ifconfig eth0 promisc
>
> You mention hang-up after reboot. Sounds familiar again.
> As a rule, I have learned NOT to reboot without power shut down.
> Don't ask me why, but it solved a lot of trouble.
>
> Good luck.
Well the good news is that the power down reboot seems to do the trick.
The bad news is that I'm now not getting a DHCP address! Have done:
>ifconfig eth0 promisc
>dhcpcd eth0
System has a think and brings a prompt back. I can see a carrier on the
card and traffic flow. Loopback is there! :0)
Midas.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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