Linux-Setup Digest #861, Volume #19 Thu, 19 Oct 00 14:13:12 EDT
Contents:
Re: Boot config advice wanted (C. L. Lewis)
Determinig functions build in Kernel ("J.Smith")
Re: now you see it; now you don't (Matthew Patterson)
Re: Gnome (Helix) and themes -broken- (Pete Hurd)
Re: Shutdonw problems ("Mick")
Linux always accessing disk? ("Mick")
Re: wheel mouse help!!! IMPS/2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
IBM DDYS-T18350, SCSI Cards, and LINUX ("Bob")
Re: fax and efax (Michael George)
modem trouble ("Greg Parker")
Re: wheel mouse help!!! IMPS/2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
default module location changed in 2.4.0-test9 ?? (Don Harden)
Re: LILO for an old newbie (Jerry Avins)
Re: Linux always accessing disk? ("pl")
Re: Problems compiling tulip module on RH 7.0 ("ne...")
Re: RAID help (Ian Danby)
WINDOW MAKER 0.61.1 (Lander Gurpide)
Re: WINDOW MAKER 0.61.1 (Jan Schaumann)
Re: Tulip driver/Compile Network Everywhere NIC NC100 ("ne...")
Re: WINDOW MAKER 0.61.1 (Frank Johnson)
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From: C. L. Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Boot config advice wanted
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:43:24 GMT
You might take a look at Power Quest Boot Magic. I picked up a freebie
version of it with a COL 2.3 package. I've never tried it with Win2000,
but it's worked quite well with Win95 and Win98. If I remember correctly
I used it on one installation with the master drive converted to FAT32
with no problems also. Install your Linux systems so that lilo is placed
in the mbr of the target drive if it's a dedicated drive or in the
target partition of a linux install on a shared disk, and make sure you
make a boot floppy in case something goes wrong in the PQ Boot magic
install on your Win drive or partition so you can get back in and modify
lilo if needed. PQ will, after installed and rebooted, recognize all
bootable partitions and drives that the bios can see and you can then
configure it or pick and choose as to which you want as boot default or
what ever.
This particular machine has RH 6.1 installed on second IDE master, CDROM
as second slave hdd, Win98 installed on hda1, COL 2.3 on hda5, swap on
hdc3 and hda6. /sbin/lilo will complain about not being on the first
hard drive, but no problem. Just matter of note, I've also used it in
combination with FreeBSD. I suppose it would probably recognize
something hooked to the IDE on my sound card also. I don't have any
SCSI, so not sure.
Hope not too confusing to you I feel like I've kind of confused myself
in trying to explain it. Good luck.
Charles
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Patrik Heidefors" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've got a fairly large home system, with 4 harddrives.
> 2 SCSI, (an 18GB Atlas V and an old 9GB Atlas II)
> 2 IDE, both IBM 34GXP 20GBs
--
Laughter is the best laxative there is for a constipated mind. Humor is
an ideal spoon to dose it.
--Chronocidal Charlie, 1995-2000, RIP--
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "J.Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Determinig functions build in Kernel
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:22:46 +0200
Hi.
When troubleshooting some issues with linux, it often seems like a good idea
to verify that the functionality one is looking for, has indeed been
compiled, either directly into the kernel or as an module. For example, the
solution to a sound or network problems can sometimes be as simple as
determining that there is no sound support compiled into the kernel, or that
a module for a specific card has not been built.
I was wondering if it is possible to determine and verify which functions
have been built into the kernel, and which functions have been built as
modules? Talking about a 2.2.16 kernel here. I thought that you might be
able to get this info from /proc on a running kernel, or with some other
clever debugging tools on a non-running kernel, but unfortunatly I have no
idea how to accomplish this.
If anyone can give me some insight on this matter, that would be greatly
appreciated.
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From: Matthew Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: now you see it; now you don't
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:30:21 -0500
n wrote:
>
> My Red Hat 6.2 CD always prompted me for my network configuration details
> during installation.
>
> Now it never does. It is the same CD and same computer. What is the problem?
> I have tried cleaning the CD again and again. The rest of the installation
> goes OK except for entirely skipping the "which packages would you like to
> install" and customise X. When I get to the end and it says its ready to
> install, no files are ever installed!
>
> What is going wrong?
just a thought, but are you telling the installer to do an upgrade?
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From: Pete Hurd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Gnome (Helix) and themes -broken-
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:29:01 -0600
>> Use the helix-gnome update tool and choose what you want to update.
>
> THe problem is that nothing shows up in the update tool, ie I got the
> latest sutff of everything.
Are you sure?
I don't have the latest of everything, even if I uninstall a gnome package,
the helix-update tool makes it appear as if all current packages are installed.
This is with RH7.0 and helix-gnome, it worked fine under rh6.2...
Uninstall a package and try updating again, see if it's delusional.
-P.
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From: "Mick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Shutdonw problems
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 00:05:35 -0700
Hi Davide
Thanks for info - but I completely screwed this time!!!! I went to "startup"
programs and deleted "apmd" from running and the rebooted. Linux RH6.2 just
freezes at the Boot: Linux ...... screen. How do I recover?
Davide Bianchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 19:32:15 -0700, "Mick"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Probabily some problem with the APMs routines. Try disable APM
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From: "Mick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux always accessing disk?
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 00:07:20 -0700
My RH6.2 seems to be reading/writing to HDD every 2 seconds wven when left
idle for 10 minutes with no other apps running except for the standard Gnome
Workstation installation. This is a new install. Why is RH6.2 always
accessing the HDD?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: wheel mouse help!!! IMPS/2
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 09:38:16 GMT
Thanks for the reply....one real quick clarification, what is
gpm
and where would I find it in the services startup?
Thanks!
Dan
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 05:13:34 GMT, C. L. Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Try changing:
>Buttons 5
>to:
>Buttons 3
>add:
>BaudRate 1200
>
>Maybe disable gpm on services startup
>
>and then run
>
>imwheel -k from an xterm or command, or possibly just add it to
>your .xinitrc or as:
>imwheel -k &
>
>Charles
>
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Okay guys, I want to get my wheel working. I have imwheel and I have
>
>--
>Laughter is the best laxative there is for a constipated mind. Humor is
>an ideal spoon to dose it.
> --Chronocidal Charlie, 1995-2000, RIP--
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
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From: "Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: IBM DDYS-T18350, SCSI Cards, and LINUX
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 11:45:49 -0500
Hi,
I'm new to Linux and have a question about support for Ultra 160 drives and
SCSI cards.
A customer ordered 4 IBM DDYS-T18350 (18.3gig,10krpm, 4 meg cache, Ultra 160
Wide SCSI) drives from us. They called back saying the LINUX OS wouldn't
recognize the drives through any of their SCSI cards (Adaptec and others
mentioned, forgive the lack of detail-i'll repost detail as it comes to me).
I find it hard to believe all the drives are bad but I don't know enough
about Linux to troubleshoot this problem with them (BTW: they said they had
configured the drives as SCSI ID 0 and tried to boot from each one without
success).
Does anyone have any suggestions as to where I could look for information on
this issue?
I've seen 'Drive Fitness Test' download information for use with Linux on
the IBM site but theres no specific troubleshooting documentation for these
drives (that I've found so far) indicating whether or not they are
compatible with Linux.
Thanks for your help
I'll post more information on their configuration when I get it...
Bob
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael George)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: fax and efax
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 16:44:49 GMT
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Peter&Hanne Utting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have efax working quite nicely with the fax script and the kde
>interfaces kfax and ksendfax, for sending and viewing faxes.
>But for receiving faxes, I can only do 'fax receive' from a terminal,
>which seems only to do an immediate manual receive. The problem with
>this is, if the fax comes a minute or so later, the receive facility has
>timed out.
>Documentation seems pretty thin for efax, only the man page and one
>howto.
>Does anyone know wether there is a 'wait' option?
>TIA
>Peter
With the efax package, when I do a "man fax" I see that there are two other
commands that might to what you want:
"fax answer"
"fax wait"
If you don't have the man page, I can mail it to you...
-Michael
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GEORGE <at symbol> MINTCITY <dot> COM
but in lowercase, not UPPERCASE
--
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all to one, but to divide it among the many, distributing to every one exactly
the functions he is competent to. It is by dividing and subdividing these
republics from the national one down through all its subordinations, until it
ends in the administration of every man's farm by himself; by placing under
every one what his own eye may superintend, that all will be done for the
best.
-- Thomas Jefferson, to Joseph Cabell, 1816
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From: "Greg Parker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.linux
Subject: modem trouble
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 12:51:06 -0400
setup redhat 6.0 (,using disk from The Complete Reference by Richard
Petersen if that helps any)first time using linux ever. everything was
working ok i was online downloading browsing etc. however unlike win95 where
you click on the systray and click disconnect i have to go to network
configurator window(open a terminal enter netconf) and click disconnect
which is buried behind other windows. i forgot once to click disconnect and
i just closed xwindows gnome and shut down normally. and now when i booted
back up in gnome desktop and i cant get modem to respond. i do not know if
thats what caused it but thats what i remember doing. i also noticed when i
boot back up into win95 i also cant access my modem and i got one blue crash
screen.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: wheel mouse help!!! IMPS/2
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:04:54 GMT
Okay, I see what gpm is, I typed gpm man and got the discription.
Now, it says to issue the command
gpm -k
before the X server starts...does that mean that I can put it in the
file
rc.local
and it will take care of it? The rest I think I can handle. Thanks
again!!!
Dan Allen
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From: Don Harden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.dev.kernel,comp.os.linux
Subject: default module location changed in 2.4.0-test9 ??
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 16:59:19 GMT
For 2.4.-test9 I did the following twice just to make sure.
make mrproper
make xconfig
make dep
make clean
make modules
make modules_install
The new 2.4-test9 modules are not in /lib/modules/2.4.0-test9/
as I expected (from compiling 2.2.x and 2.4.0-test2 kernels) but in
/lib/modules/2.4.0-test9/kernel/. Furthermore,
the directory tree is now deeper, i.e; scsi modules are in
/lib/modules/2.4.0-test9/kernel/drivers/scsi/ instead of
/lib/modules/<kernel version>/scsi/
My problem is that mkinitrd (2.4.1) can't find the 2.4.0-test9
modules. Did I miss something in the Documentation
for 2.4.0-test9? Do I need to update mkinitrd, or mv the modules up
the /lib/modules/2.4.0-test9/ tree so that
mkinitrd can find them? Am I just guilty of a PEBCAK ('beginning to
think this since I can't find anything about this
problem on Deja)?
Thanks,
Don
--
Dr. Don Harden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Department of Chemistry 547 NSC
Georgia State University ph: (404) 651-3580
Atlanta, Ga. 30302 fax: (404) 651-1416
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Dr. Don Harden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Department of Chemistry 547 NSC
Georgia State University ph: (404) 651-3580
Atlanta, Ga. 30302 fax: (404) 651-1416
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Jerry Avins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO for an old newbie
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 13:09:04 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...
> > Jerry Avins wrote:
> >
> > > Can someone tell me _exactly_ what to do so I can set up to boot
> > > from hard disk and use either OS? ...
Thanks, everyone. I learned from reading the links you suggested that
LILO can uninstall itself and restore the original boot sector. That
gives me the courage to go ahead and experiment on my own. You were all
helpful.
Jerry
--
Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get.
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From: "pl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux always accessing disk?
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:11:37 GMT
> My RH6.2 seems to be reading/writing to HDD every 2 seconds wven when left
> idle for 10 minutes with no other apps running except for the standard Gnome
> Workstation installation. This is a new install. Why is RH6.2 always accessing
> the HDD?
>
IIRC, I had the same problem due to magicdev continually checking for a change
in the cdrom.
Check your /var/log/messages and see if it looks like that's what is happening.
If so, you can disable magicdev via gnome's control-center (peripherals->cd
properties).
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From: "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problems compiling tulip module on RH 7.0
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:19:39 GMT
On Oct 17, 2000 at 23:10, msume97 eloquently wrote:
>One suggestion that I would make is that if you have the space, the install
>everything option is the way to go. I realize this is a waste of space if
>you don't use all of the packages, but it will save you a lot of headaches
>with dependancies and compiling source in the future. I'm no guru either,
>but if your willing to give it a try it just might work. As for the
>directories you mentioned, I created the /usr/src/modules directory and the
>other one is actually /usr/src/linux-2.2.16/include on my machine. Though I
>didn't have to change anything in the make file the .c files to compile, it
>worked as is.
Yeah but what about using the correct compiler to compile
the module. RH7 has two compilers, one for the kernel and
modules, and the other for anything else. Tell the orig.
poster to install the kgcc rpm....
--
Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org)
To lead people, you must follow behind.
-- Lao Tsu
1:17pm up 2 days, 18:04, 10 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
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From: Ian Danby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RAID help
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:22:09 GMT
>
> Don't know about windows software RAID, but my Linux software RAID has NEVER
> had a problem, its as stable as it can be.
> --
I'll second that...
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From: Lander Gurpide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: WINDOW MAKER 0.61.1
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:28:12 GMT
I've recently installed Debian Potato and I,m learning to use Window
Maker because I think it's not very "heavy" for my old pc and it's cool.
The problem is that I want to install some new themes for Window Maker
and I don't know which versions are compatibles with 0.61.1 version.
I would also like to know where to find documentation about Window
Maker, installing sound, themes, etc.
THANKS.
--
_-------------------------------------------_
| DEBIAN GNU/Linux 2.2 - Linux User # 175011 |
|---------------------------------------------|
| KERNEL 2.2.17 - P200 MHz - 64 Mb RAM |
`-------------------------------------------'
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Schaumann)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: WINDOW MAKER 0.61.1
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:30:08 GMT
Lander Gurpide wrote:
>I've recently installed Debian Potato and I,m learning to use Window
>Maker because I think it's not very "heavy" for my old pc and it's cool.
>The problem is that I want to install some new themes for Window Maker
>and I don't know which versions are compatibles with 0.61.1 version.
>I would also like to know where to find documentation about Window
>Maker, installing sound, themes, etc.
http://www.windowmaker.org would be an obvious choice to start looking...
AFAIK there are no compatibility-issues with respect to themes.
Also check http://wm.themes.org
Cheers,
-Jan
--
Jan Schaumann <http://www.netmeister.org>
Please add smileys where appropriate.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat
From: "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Tulip driver/Compile Network Everywhere NIC NC100
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:37:09 GMT
On Oct 18, 2000 at 19:37, anthony f eloquently wrote:
>I'm trying to obtain the latest tulip.o build for a Network Everywhere
>(Linksys subsidiary) NC100.
>
>I've obtained the latest source from
>http://www.scyld.com/network/tulip.html. I can't seem to get it to
>compile - I don't have the generated errors handy...
>
>From what I've gathered, the version of tulip.o that's been shipping
>with RH for a while isn't the latest which this NIC needs.
>
>If anyone has an Intel build of a later version, preferrably from RH 7,
>please notify me - I'd appreciate it. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, if you are using RH7 and trying to compile the
driver with gcc, it ain't gonna work. That's the reason
why RH included the kgcc rpm. This is for compiling the
kernel and kernel modules.
--
Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org)
Just once, I wish we would encounter an alien menace that wasn't
immune to bullets.
-- The Brigadier, "Dr. Who"
1:35pm up 2 days, 18:22, 10 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
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From: Frank Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: WINDOW MAKER 0.61.1
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:48:52 +0100
Lander Gurpide wrote:
> I've recently installed Debian Potato and I,m learning to use Window
> Maker because I think it's not very "heavy" for my old pc and it's cool.
> The problem is that I want to install some new themes for Window Maker
> and I don't know which versions are compatibles with 0.61.1 version.
> I would also like to know where to find documentation about Window
> Maker, installing sound, themes, etc.
> THANKS.
You can use most themes but you will have to play with the 0.5x themes to
get them to work because they're in a differenet format.
All the 0.6 themes should work. To install a 0.6 theme unzip and untar it
and then place the theme.themed directory in
~/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/Themes (this is on mandrake , it may cary on
Debian).
For sound you need WSoundServer and WSoundPrefs. I can't remeber where
from but a search shoould find them. After a few mishaps i managed to set
htem up fairly easily
HTH
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