Linux-Setup Digest #886, Volume #19 Mon, 23 Oct 00 13:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: Triple boot with NT in second drive (Rod Smith)
Re: Netscape fonts hard to read (Hal Burgiss)
Mandrake 6.5 & Ultra 66 SCSI
make a boot floppy (Zhihui Zhang)
Re: default module location changed in 2.4.0-test9 ?? (Jean-Maurice MALGRAS)
Re: make a boot floppy (Davide Bianchi)
Re: Can't telnet my host ! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: I've broken it !! Win 2K RedHat 6.2 boot (Carl Waring)
Newbie Help with uninstallation ("Schooly")
LILO problems, even tried reinstalling. (Jeff)
Re: Newbie Help with uninstallation ("bluster")
Re: Newbie to linux; I screwed up my X, now what? (rich)
Re: Newbie to linux; I screwed up my X, now what? (rich)
Mouse doesn't work in linux... Please Help!! ("Rob Coridan")
mount & run problem (Paolo Meriggi)
Re: Fwd: can't install (Kelvin Yiu)
Re: Best dist for 486/33? (DeAnn Iwan)
root/ Locked Directory: Is there a way out of this please- kfm shwing this on status
line ("A-Need-to-Learn")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Triple boot with NT in second drive
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:10:18 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
BO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi all,
>
> I have a PC running Caldera Linux and Win98(dual boot) with "grub" as my
> boot loader. Not iam planning to have another HDD with WinNT installed in
> it. Could you please advice me how i can do that and whether to use "grub"
> or NT as my boot loader.
Microsoft OSs usually insist on putting at least part of themselves on
a primary partition on the first physical disks. Although there are ways
to fool the system to get around this limit, the few reports I've seen
of attempts to do this relate difficulties, so I'm reluctant to advise
your doing this.
In my experience, the best way to do this is to arrange things so that
Win98 and WinNT each has its own primary partition on the first physical
disk. Linux can go on the first physical disk, too (in either a primary
or a logical partition), or it can reside on the second disk. You can
add shared partitions and non-boot data and program partitions for all
three OSs wherever you like. Without more details about your current
setup, I can't say how easy it would be to achieve this goal. Chances
are you'd need to move at least part of your Linux partition to the new
disk in order to install NT there. A tool like PartitionMagic
(http://www.powerquest.com) may be invaluable in configuring this.
If this really is too much effort, your best bet is probably to let NT
use the Win98 drive as C:, and simply go through NT's normal
installation routine, but tell it to put the WINNT directory in D: (or
some other drive letter that corresponds to a partition on your new
disk). This way, NT will use C: for the initial part of its boot
process, but put most of its files on a new D: (or whatever) partition.
This will only work if Win98 is on a FAT-16 partition or if you're
installing NT 5.0 (aka Windows 2000); Windows NT 4.0 can't read FAT-32
partitions.
As to boot loaders, there are lots of ways of doing it. Chances are
you'll use at least two, though. NT REQUIRES the use of its OS Loader to
boot, and Linux REQUIRES the use of LILO, GRUB, or some other tool (like
LOADLIN) to boot. In a situation like this, you normally use one boot
loader as the primary one (the one that boots first), and the other as a
secondary loader. In my first ideal situation, *I* would configure it
with LILO (or perhaps GRUB; but I've never used GRUB) as the primary
boot loader, to select between Linux, Win98, and WinNT. NT's OS Loader
would then automatically boot NT and nothing else. In the second case,
it could be done this way, except that LILO or GRUB would have a single
option for Windows, and OS Loader would then be used to select Win98 or
WinNT. Alternatively, OS Loader could be the primary and give three
choices; then LILO (or perhaps GRUB) could be the secondary boot loader,
and boot Linux only.
FWIW, I cover all these issues in greater detail in my book, _The
Multi-Boot Configuration Handbook_
(http://www.rodsbooks.com/multiboot/).
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: Netscape fonts hard to read
Reply-To: Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:21:26 GMT
On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 04:53:02 -0700, Jack Kessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am having a hard time reading Linux Netscape fonts. Windows Netscape
>fonts are easy to read. I have a dual boot machine so both Linux and
>Windows are using the same hardware, same ISP, same sites. How do I
>get readable fonts? Thanks for any help.
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/FDU/index.html (Font De-uglification)
--
Hal B
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mandrake 6.5 & Ultra 66 SCSI
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:30:06 -0000
I am trying to load Linux on a Gateway Performance 550. It happens to
have an ultra 66 SCSI card in it. I cant get past the SCSI screen when
trying to set up linux cause there is no driver listed. What do I do?
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:43:55 -0400
From: Zhihui Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: make a boot floppy
I have been able to make a kernel on a hard drive. Now I want to make a
boot floppy and have some questions to ask:
(1) How to format the floppy?
(2) Do I need to copy bzImage, module files, System.map onto the disk?
(3) How to modify the /etc/lilo.conf so that it will boot from my floppy
and read everything from there?
I am using Redhat 6.2. Thanks.
-Zhihui
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From: Jean-Maurice MALGRAS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.dev.kernel,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: default module location changed in 2.4.0-test9 ??
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:44:44 GMT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Message d'origine <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Le 10/19/00, =E0 6:59:19 PM h, Don Harden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> vous =
a=20
=E9crit sur le sujet suivant default module location changed in 2.4.0-te=
st9=20
??:
> For 2.4.-test9 I did the following twice just to make sure.
> make mrproper
> make xconfig
> make dep
> make clean
> make modules
> make modules_install
> The new 2.4-test9 modules are not in /lib/modules/2.4.0-test9/
> as I expected (from compiling 2.2.x and 2.4.0-test2 kernels) but in
> /lib/modules/2.4.0-test9/kernel/. Furthermore,
> the directory tree is now deeper, i.e; scsi modules are in
> /lib/modules/2.4.0-test9/kernel/drivers/scsi/ instead of
> /lib/modules/<kernel version>/scsi/
> My problem is that mkinitrd (2.4.1) can't find the 2.4.0-test9
> modules. Did I miss something in the Documentation
> for 2.4.0-test9? Do I need to update mkinitrd, or mv the modules up
> the /lib/modules/2.4.0-test9/ tree so that
> mkinitrd can find them? Am I just guilty of a PEBCAK ('beginning to
> think this since I can't find anything about this
> problem on Deja)?
> Thanks,
> Don
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
Before compiling a new kernel always read
../linux/Documentation/Changes =A7 Current Minimal requirements...
modutils =3D> 2.3.15 automatically recognize the new modules places.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Davide Bianchi)
Subject: Re: make a boot floppy
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:49:47 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:43:55 -0400, Zhihui Zhang
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I have been able to make a kernel on a hard drive. Now I want to make a
>boot floppy and have some questions to ask:
Usually, if you use make bzDisk, this automatically create the new
kernel and transfert it into the floppy. Have a formatted floppy
handy.
To format the floppy you can use mkfs (see man mkfs).
Davide
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Can't telnet my host !
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:38:40 GMT
Vincent,
Did you install xinetd? I believe if you install the workstation, you
don't get network servers by default.
> I'm using Madrake7.0.
>
> When I try to telnet to my host from a remote host, I don't even get a
> login/password question ?
> Instead, I only receive the following message :
> Connection closed by foreign host
>
> I've deleted the hosts.allow and the hosts.deny files so that any
access is
> allowed from any host but it doesn't solve the problem.
> I've nothing in the syslogd logs as well about what's going on .
>
> Can anyone help me ?
>
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Carl Waring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I've broken it !! Win 2K RedHat 6.2 boot
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:09:43 +0100
Eric,
Things are not working out well!! THis problem is really wierd. I have
formated then re-installed
win 2K. It seems to install except that the windows boot screen is still
showing yet the windows
"trashy" music is played as if windows has actually come up (yet I affirm that
the windows boot
screen still appears)
I can prove this by pressing the windows button on my keyboard and going
through the motions of
shutting down .i.e. windows key, up arrow, enter This will actually close my
system down yet I can't see it
happening ??
I have changed tha mbr so that it is no the windows mbr (which does not work
because windows appears to
hang in booting - described above ) and therefore I can only get into redhat
via a boot floppy.
Have you seen this sort of thing before ? I think I'll try a different
newsgroup for this one.
cw
Eric wrote:
> Carl Waring wrote:
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > Thanks for your help, I think I've cracked it now with exception of one
> > problem I still have to sort out. As you mentioned I checked my bios and
> > alsthough I put an additional disk in the BIOS did not understand that is
> > was there ?? ( thought most computer bios knew when a new disk was being
> > added and changed the settings automatically), never mind.
> >
> > Anyway, I changed the bios and set it up so that the computer now knows it
> > has two disks and hey presto ! the options for the two operating systems
> > come up with win2k automatically loading, although it doesn't quite it
> > stops !! or hangs through booting up ?
> >
> > So, what I think I'll do is start from scratch again, modify the master
> > boot record with the win2k and then try to load redhat.
> >
> > Thanks for you help.
> >
> > cw
> >
>
> Well I hardly ever advise to reinstall, since it is usually not needed,
> but I agree that it might be the easiest solution for your case. I
> cannot tell what you should do to get it fixed. So if you don't have
> important data, just reinstall, if there's data present you don't want
> ot lose, make sure to backup that stuff first. Good luck, and I hope
> you'll succeed this time, right out of the box.
>
> Eric
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From: "Schooly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Newbie Help with uninstallation
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:11:23 +0100
I have a copy of SuSE Linux 6.3 which I installed on a second hard drive, as
I run Win98 and didn't want to repartition my main drive. Not being familiar
with Unix or Linux, I had great difficulty along the way, and still have not
been successful in getting it to boot properly.
I now need to uninstall Linux in order to reclaim my hard disk, but having
read the 480 page manual from cover to cover, I still haven't a clue how to
do this. The DOS version of FDisk doesn't work, and I can't get to the Linux
FDisk, since I can't boot Linux. I'm sure it's a good system, but I really
haven't the time to learn it all.
Can anyone tell me a good, easily understandable emergency procedure?
TIA
Dave
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From: Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LILO problems, even tried reinstalling.
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 12:45:06 -0300
Version RedHat 6.1
I just installed RedHat 6.1 on a 586 box. I can boot from the 'A' drive
no problems at all, but the hard drive is a different story. All I get
is "LI" and the system hangs.
This is the only OS on the box so it's not a multiple boot problem. The
partition table is
hda 16M
hda5 1024M
hdb 300M (Swap)
Any ideas?
Jeff
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From: "bluster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie Help with uninstallation
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 11:45:53 -0400
Schooly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I now need to uninstall Linux in order to reclaim my hard disk, but having
> read the 480 page manual from cover to cover, I still haven't a clue how
to
> do this. The DOS version of FDisk doesn't work, and I can't get to the
Linux
> FDisk, since I can't boot Linux. I'm sure it's a good system, but I really
> haven't the time to learn it all.
>
> Can anyone tell me a good, easily understandable emergency procedure?
You can use a floppy disk linux distro', I use "Tom's RTBT" (RooT BooT)
floppy available from: http://www.toms.net/rb/home.html
Boot linux from floppy and run the linux fdisk command to remove
the linux partitions.
Bluster
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (rich)
Subject: Re: Newbie to linux; I screwed up my X, now what?
Date: 23 Oct 2000 15:59:45 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Also schrieb bluster:
>rich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I discovered that in /usr/X11R6/bin that my X entry was linked to the
>> Mach64 X binary,
>
>On my RedHat6.2 system the /usr/X11R6/bin/X link points to a file
>named /usr/X11R6/bin/Xwrapper e.g.:
>
>[root@zephyr]# ls -l /usr/X11R6/bin/X
>lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root /usr/X11R6/bin/X -> Xwrapper
>
>[root@zephyr]# file /usr/X11R6/bin/Xwrapper
>/usr/X11R6/bin/Xwrapper: setuid ELF 32-bit LSB executable,
>Intel 80386, version 1, dynamically linked
>(uses shared libs), stripped
>
>
>The file /etc/X11/X is the link to the X-server binary e.g.
>
>[root@zephyr]# ls -l /etc/X11/X
>lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root /etc/X11/X -> ../../usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA
>
>I think it should be the same on your RH6.0 system.
Yes. That is correct. Apologies for the misinformation -- I'm still
learning my way around this system.
BTW, I solved the initial problem by just making a RH 6.0 install disk
and "upgrading" the X server (reinstalling everything.)
It still whines during running Xconfigurator, however. It verifies the
S3 chip, then asks for my monitor, and then it tries to start X and
claims that it has a problem.
If I set it to a generic monitor, make the mode 640X480 and 16 color,
and skip the X test, it works. Screen geometry is a little weird --
Netscape and Linuxconf are bigger than the screen which presents, shall
we say, a challenge.
neither a Gateway CrystalScan 1024, nor a Compaq V50 work as monitors.
As I was trying to debug this whole issue, my hard disk started
mis-behaving and finally crashed.
I think this system may be put to sleep and resurrected as a Gnatbox
proxy server (no moving parts, dontcha know.) I am going to hold my
peace and wait for my 7.0 Red Hat and rebuild a server for it.
--
Catch the cluetrain. http://www.cluetrain.com
ALL programs are poems, it's just that not all programmers are poets.
-- Jonathan Guthrie in the scary.devil.monastery
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (rich)
Subject: Re: Newbie to linux; I screwed up my X, now what?
Date: 23 Oct 2000 16:00:33 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Also schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I discovered that in /usr/X11R6/bin that my X entry was linked to the
>> Mach64 X binary, and the chip detection was reporting (and I verified
>> visually) that the chip was an S3 chip.
>
>Just out of curiosity... manufacturer/vendor of display card?
Unknown.
>> And is there an RPM-howto somewhere?
>
>Yes, try
>http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/RPM-HOWTO/index.html
>They also have a lot of other How-To's at www.linux.org also
Thanks. Wasn't sure if a vendor specific howto made it in, my bad for
being too lazy to look.
--
Catch the cluetrain. http://www.cluetrain.com
ALL programs are poems, it's just that not all programmers are poets.
-- Jonathan Guthrie in the scary.devil.monastery
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From: "Rob Coridan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mouse doesn't work in linux... Please Help!!
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 12:12:35 -0400
I have a large problem that I can't understand. I have a Dell PII 400 Mhz
computer that I can install SuSE 6.3 Linux succesfully on. However, I have
a microsoft intellimouse explorer (optical) plugged into the PS/2 port and
it is irresponsive. I have to install with the text installation.
I thought that it may be the fact that the mouse has an adapter that changes
from a USB connection to allow it to go to a PS/2 port...I switched to a
regular microsoft mouse, and it too was non responsive. Then I thought that
the distribution may be bad, so I installed Red Hat 6.2, and it too would
only install in text mode and both mice were again nonresponsive. The boot
up says that a PS/2 mouse is detected, but it has never worked. I can run
linux in text mode, but it freezes whenever I use the SuSE X configuration
program. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am getting desperate.
Thanks,
Rob
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From: Paolo Meriggi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mount & run problem
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 18:08:27 +0200
Dear all,
I have a little rookie question for you: I installed a Mandrake 7.1
dist. of Linux on a big Hard disk.
For several reason, I have now to use a different version of linux,
installed on a little HD, and I don't know how to (after mounting the
Mandrake HD) configure the system in order to run the progs that are
stored on the Mandrake HD...
Any help will be welcome
Paolo Meriggi
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From: Kelvin Yiu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fwd: can't install
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 00:30:54 +0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aha, yes! I am. Thank you very much~~!
I love you ^3^
Actually I am using 66 not 66/100~~!
Eric wrote:
> KelKel wrote:
> >
> > When I try to install Redhat Linux 7.0, it told me that it can't find
> > the device to install. Is this problem related to my harddisk
> > partitioning? Since I am using System Commander.
> >
> > What shld I do?
> >
> > thx~~!
>
> I assume that you're using a udma66/100 controller. There's a special
> bootfloppy (can be found at freshmeat.net) with the appropriote drivers.
>
> Eric
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From: DeAnn Iwan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Best dist for 486/33?
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 12:37:13 -0400
Each distribution keeps its own copies of the drivers. For brand
new devices, the Suse site is often a good source of drivers because the
specialize in video drivers. Compaq has drivers for its equipment
(including old equipment) on its site--but most of these are dos/win
drivers because those were the OS of choice when the old equipment was
built/sold. Note that most (mabey all) distributions include all the
device drivers they have (or have tested). They are not "windowed" to
exclude all the old equipment and all the brand new equipment that
non-OEM consumers might have and want to use. Note, the drivers from
any distribution would normally be portable between distributions in
principle, but may not be readily loadable if they are different
distros. Suse rmps, for example, are not interchangable with RH rpms.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Where does linux keep device drivers? I'm planning to put Peanut on
> a Compaq prolinea 486, which I doubt is pnp. Are the drivers part of
> the distro or do I have to get them off the internet, and if so where?
>
> --
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>
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> Before you buy.
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From: "A-Need-to-Learn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: root/ Locked Directory: Is there a way out of this please- kfm shwing this on
status line
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 18:18:13 +0100
Hello folks,
I've somehow managed to lock my root directory and now cannot function in
the root logonn. The desktop can't be built but the icons are showing on
the bottom of the screen. Unfortunately, I can't start anything using these
icons such as a disk navigator or even a konsole app.
Is there any way to unlock this root/ directory without a reinstall?
I tried mounting read only and running fsck -v / but to no avail. [in run
level 1]
TIA
Ian Turnbull
0961 931941
mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web : www.turnbui.freeserve.co.uk
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