Linux-Setup Digest #932, Volume #19 Sun, 29 Oct 00 23:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: X display slightly larger than screen ("Bill Jones")
Re: ftp missing!! (Alex)
Re: how to boot daemons in background? (Mandrake 7 User)
Changing ethernet card (John Beardmore)
Adaptec 2940 compatability and configurtion (John Beardmore)
Loading RH 6.2 from the Updates CD-R (John Beardmore)
Logging start up messages (John Beardmore)
Logging 'red screen of death' messages (John Beardmore)
Changing graphics card (John Beardmore)
X, desktops, clients and servers (John Beardmore)
Linux apps (John Beardmore)
Packages (John Beardmore)
Promise ATA/66 and RAID controlers. (John Beardmore)
Re: Logging start up messages (Manfred Bartz)
Re: Logging 'red screen of death' messages ("JJ")
Re: Changing ethernet card (Manfred Bartz)
Re: Packages ("JJ")
What is an ISO Image? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
How to mount a floppy drive? ("Andre Liem")
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From: "Bill Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: X display slightly larger than screen
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 22:25:09 -0500
"Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> It really doesn't sound like a virtual screen problem to me. (does the
> entire screen move when you reach the edge of your screen?)
>
> I would try another window manager, this one is messing up.
You're right, it is the Window Manager!! I went to the Gnome Configuration
Manager, went to the Window Manager section, and switched from Sawfish to
twm, and the problem goes away...
However, I don't really like twm compared to Sawfish in general, except for
this problem. I tried all the settings in Sawfish for window placement,
including best-fit, first-fit, none, centered, staggered, etc., but none
make the problem go away.
Does anyone know how to fix it? Or which manager should I try that will
work good with Gnome? Only Sawfish and twm come with Redhat 7.0...
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From: Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ftp missing!!
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 03:30:04 -0000
Hi,
There is an article futher back that says if you installed workstation
redhat then you dont get FTP server by default, the FTP that you see is the
FTP client, use RPM to install wu-ftp as directed earlier, this will
install an FTP server, don't forget clients and servers are differant.
Regards,
Alex
(its a bit like Micro$ofts FTP in Win98/95 client only)
sudip1 wrote:
>
>
> rpm -q ftp shows : ftp-0.10-12
> Still it doesn,t work.
> I tried uninstalling and re-installing the ftp-0.10-22.i386.rpm located
> in Redhat/RPMS/ directory in the cd. No hope yet.
>
> When give a find : find / -name "*ftpd" -print
> it finds files like /usr/lib/linuxconf/help.eng/wuftpd etc.
> But I don't find any executables in /usr/sbin or /usr/bin.
> I find in.tftpd in /usr/sbin - not something like in.ftpd.
>
> Could you pls. help further ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Sudip
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> > > In article <8so9ef$4bq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > >
> > > > I am surprisingly finding that ftp service is missing from the
> > > > installation of my Redhat Linux 6.0 (i386).
> > > >
> > > > Although the entries are there in /etc/services and
> /etc/inetd.conf
> > > > the command that is specified in inetd.conf (i.e. in.ftpd) is
> missing
> > > > from the system. I tried an upgrade from the installation cdrom
> for
> > > > that service - it says in a log in /temp/upgrade.log that it has
> > > > upgraded ftp but still I don't find it in the system. Naturally I
> > > > cannot connect to the linux machine through ftp client from other
> > > > machines.
> > > > By the way ping,telnet etc. work fine.
> > > >
> > > > Can anybody help?
> > > ...
> > >
> > > What does "rpm -q ftp" show? If nothing, load ftp-0.16-x from the
> CD.
> >
> > Better yet, install ftp-server-xxx-xx.rpm from the CD.
> >
> > --
> > Robert Kiesling
> > Linux FAQ Maintainer
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://www.mainmatter.com/linux-faq/toc.html
> http://www.mainmatter.com/
> >
>
>
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From: Mandrake 7 User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: how to boot daemons in background?
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 03:28:37 GMT
That's helpful but not quite what I want. The problem is that some
things are *not* listed in rc5.d (or any rc*.d). Also, all S* services
are started in the foreground.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I assume you are level 5 when you start up.
> $ su -
> password: <secret>
> # cp -r /etc/rc.d/rc5.d /etc/rc.d/rc5.d.bak # backup your rc5.d
> directory just in case you mess up.
> # cd /etc/rc.d/rc5.d
> # rm S##start_up_stuff
#
> remove the boot daemons you want to remove.
>
> The shutdown stuff are those files K##shut_down_stuff
>
> Mandrake 7 User wrote:
>
> > During startup, all services are started sequentially. Especially
ppp,
> > which causes a long wait; it is reported as [FAILED] anyway
(probably
> > because it takes longer than the timeout) and restarted in the
> > background; when needed (after X is up), it works. How can I turn
off
> > the waiting time for this (and other) services? I.e. I want
everything
> > started in the background, to expedite the boot process.
> >
> > By the way, where is the script that starts if-ppp at boot time and
> > shuts it down during halt? The latter is particularly superflous
since
> > it never succeeds before power down.
> >
> > --
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> > Before you buy.
>
>
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From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.alpha
Subject: Changing ethernet card
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 02:18:04 +0000
I've got a DEC 2100 Alpha server which came with an old 10 MHz half
duplex UTP ethernet card in an EISA slot.
Linux has found this and configured it, and I can ping my other kit
through it, but it won't be up to the sort of work I want to do on the
box in the long run.
Can I just add an Intel PCI card to this box ?
Assuming Linux can recognise and enable the new card, how do I control
the bindings to the two cards ?
Could I for example configure the new card to handle all ethernet
traffic at the moment, but still leave the old card undisturbed 'just in
case' ?
If I want to use the old card to talk to a firewall in the future, where
will I need to look to find how to bind the new 100 MHz nic to my LAN,
and the old 10 MHz card to firewall ?
Cheers, J/.
--
John Beardmore
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From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Adaptec 2940 compatability and configurtion
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 02:18:21 +0000
I've got a DEC 2100 Alpha server which came with an old PCI hardware
RAID controller. This doesn't seem to be Linux compatible, so I need a
wide controller to hook onto the drives that were in the RAID array in
the machines past life.
I have a PCI Adaptec 2940W lying about which I guess Linux supports, but
I have a query.
When Adaptec controllers live in Intel PCs, they can be configured by
hitting ^A on boot up. Is it possible to do this in an Alpha box, or do
I need a dummer SCSI controller configured by other means ? If so, what
cheap PCI SCSI controllers that support big drives on sale in the UK
will fit the bill ?
Cheers, J/.
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John Beardmore
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From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.alpha
Subject: Loading RH 6.2 from the Updates CD-R
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 02:18:43 +0000
I've ordered the Updates CD-R for RH Linux 6.2 but don't see an obvious
way to apply all the revisions to my system. I was expecting something
like an NT service pack, but I guess I'm a newbie to this OS !
Is there some magic way of applying all updates using an rpm command for
example, or do I need to patch one package at a time by hand ?
Cheers, J/.
--
John Beardmore
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From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Logging start up messages
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 02:19:01 +0000
Is there a simple way to get Linux to log its start up messages to a
file so I can check which hardware it's detecting and configuring at
leisure ?
Cheers, J/.
--
John Beardmore
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From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.alpha
Subject: Logging 'red screen of death' messages
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 02:19:16 +0000
Is there a simple way to get Linux to log its 'red screen of death'
messages to a file so I can check it's dying messages after a reboot ?
Is this a bad idea because the disks may not get synced before the
system halts ?
Cheers, J/.
--
John Beardmore
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From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.alpha
Subject: Changing graphics card
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 02:20:05 +0000
I've got a DEC 2100 Alpha server which came with an old Number 9 S3 928
16 bit ISA card in an EISA slot.
Linux has found this and configured it, and it works OK in text mode in
23 * 80.
( Is there a way to up the number of lines to 50 ?? )
Using this card, I can run startx and get a desktop, but only in 8 bits
per pixel video mode at 640 by 480. the desktop simply won't start if
higher resolutions are specified in Xconfigurator. Is there a work
around for this ?
Thinking that an old ISA video card would be a bit crap, I tried
removing it and substituting a spare Matrox Millennium with 2 meg of
video RAM. To my delight, Linux booted OK into text mode, noted that
the Number Nine card was gone and configured the Millennium.
Unfortunately, any attempt to do a PCI probe on the card failed with a
'red screen of death', and any attempt to configure it by hand in
Xconfigurator then startx also resulted in a red screen dump. Is there
a work around for this ?
In the long run, I'd like to play with graphics and X a lot on this
machine, so if these two cards won't function under Linux on this
motherboard, is any card known to work well ?
Cheers, J/.
--
John Beardmore
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From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: X, desktops, clients and servers
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 02:20:28 +0000
I've got a DEC 2100 Alpha server which came with an old Number 9 S3 928
16 bit ISA card in an EISA slot. I'm having problems getting a high
colour, high resolution video set up, so I just wondered what my other
options were if I want to use Gnome, KDE or graphical apps.
Last year I did some remote work on a UNIX box over an ISDN line using
the Hummingbird Exceed X server. Can I run graphical Linux apps this
way, or with some other X software over a fast 100 MHz LAN using an NT
box as a display device ? Will this be a smooth trouble free process or
horribly slow ?
Even if I can run apps this way, can I use it to get Gnome or KDE
desktop access or to do graphical init 6 Linux logins ?
Cheers, J/.
--
John Beardmore
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From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.alpha
Subject: Linux apps
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 02:21:03 +0000
Now I've got Linux half configured on an Alpha box, I'm starting to
wonder what application software I can load beyond my server needs.
Beyond server apps, my main interests are graphics, page layout and
electronics, so what is available for
image manipulation,
page layout,
circuit schematics,
data visualisation,
PCB design and
cad
etc ?
Is there any catalogue or archive of reviews of apps for Linux ? I
don't mind trying out a fair bit of software experimentally, but I'd
prefer not to spend too much time on it if I can research it first.
Are there any co-operative app development efforts going on in the above
areas ?
Cheers, J/.
--
John Beardmore
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From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.alpha
Subject: Packages
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 02:23:28 +0000
So far I've tried server and workstation installs of RH 6.2 with
success, but I probably want something between the two, with some sort
of graphical desktop, but mail, http and firewall services under the
hood. I guess I need to do a custom install.
( Why do the RH configuration docs assume you'll do your initial
configuration through a Gnome or KDE desktop when their server install
doesn't load either those ?!?! )
As I want to play with both, is it safe and easy to load both Gnome and
KDE ?
I guess I'll be able to hack my way around disk configuration over
multiple drives, but my biggest concern is package selection.
Is there a full list of package functions and dependencies given
anywhere ?
Cheers, J/.
--
John Beardmore
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From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.alpha
Subject: Promise ATA/66 and RAID controlers.
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 02:29:52 +0000
I've got a DEC 2100 Alpha server which came with an old PCI hardware
RAID controller and a few tiny SCSI drives.
The controller doesn't seem to be Linux compatible, so I need an
alternative controller and wondered if I should switch to IDE for any
big new disks.
Assuming I still boot off a SCSI drive, this gives rise to a couple of
questions:
1) Are either the Promise ATA/66 and / or ATA RAID variants supported
under Linux ?
2) Do they work on Alpha CPU machines ?
If the promise controller cards won't work with Alpha Linux, are there
any realistic alternatives ?
Cheers, J/.
--
John Beardmore
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Subject: Re: Logging start up messages
From: Manfred Bartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 03:47:29 GMT
John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Is there a simple way to get Linux to log its start up messages to a
> file so I can check which hardware it's detecting and configuring at
> leisure ?
Its done be default.
dmesg > bootmessages.log
man dmesg
use it soon after boot (the ring-buffer eventually gets overwritten)
--
Manfred
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From: "JJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.alpha
Subject: Re: Logging 'red screen of death' messages
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 22:55:51 -0500
I found booting the ttyS0 as system console through a emulator (kermit) and
logging the session on the remote system. Very handy debuging machine
checks.
the graphics head still works as a console, but all the system messages will
be logged to ttyS0.
logging all the messages to the disk does not work very well, as there are
messages on the vitrtual console and the srm console, if you ever noticed it
switches between them during bootup and shutdown..
JJ
John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:pNciU1ckqN$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Is there a simple way to get Linux to log its 'red screen of death'
> messages to a file so I can check it's dying messages after a reboot ?
>
> Is this a bad idea because the disks may not get synced before the
> system halts ?
>
>
> Cheers, J/.
> --
> John Beardmore
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.alpha
Subject: Re: Changing ethernet card
From: Manfred Bartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 03:57:24 GMT
John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've got a DEC 2100 Alpha server which came with an old 10 MHz half
> duplex UTP ethernet card in an EISA slot.
>
> Linux has found this and configured it, and I can ping my other kit
> through it, but it won't be up to the sort of work I want to do on the
> box in the long run.
>
> Can I just add an Intel PCI card to this box ?
Should be ok. You may want to look at:
<http://www.scyld.com/linux_network_drivers.html>
> Assuming Linux can recognise and enable the new card, how do I control
> the bindings to the two cards ?
man ifconfig
This can be tricky because which one becomes eth0 and eth1 is
dependent on the PCI connector position on the motherboard. It is
possible to do this with some scripts and by looking at the ethernet
address, but the easiest is probably to swap the ethernet cables if
necessary.
> Could I for example configure the new card to handle all ethernet
> traffic at the moment, but still leave the old card undisturbed 'just in
> case' ?
Yes, by setting your routes appropriately. man route.
Also, for the unused card: ifconfig ethX down
> If I want to use the old card to talk to a firewall in the future, where
> will I need to look to find how to bind the new 100 MHz nic to my LAN,
> and the old 10 MHz card to firewall ?
See above.
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Manfred Bartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP_ID=0xF172019B
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From: "JJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.alpha
Subject: Re: Packages
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 23:02:16 -0500
If you select custom, on the bottom of the last package selection page, is
a button to select "EVERYTHING"
kde+gnome can both be installed and you can switch between them from the
login screen.
there is a list of package decencies on CD1 the name of the file escapes me,
I can look tomorrow.
if you select a package that has a dependency, it will flag it and prompt
you again.
JJ
John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:DN9oENeguN$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> So far I've tried server and workstation installs of RH 6.2 with
> success, but I probably want something between the two, with some sort
> of graphical desktop, but mail, http and firewall services under the
> hood. I guess I need to do a custom install.
>
> ( Why do the RH configuration docs assume you'll do your initial
> configuration through a Gnome or KDE desktop when their server install
> doesn't load either those ?!?! )
>
> As I want to play with both, is it safe and easy to load both Gnome and
> KDE ?
>
> I guess I'll be able to hack my way around disk configuration over
> multiple drives, but my biggest concern is package selection.
>
> Is there a full list of package functions and dependencies given
> anywhere ?
>
>
> Cheers, J/.
> --
> John Beardmore
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: What is an ISO Image?
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 04:00:05 GMT
I'm new to Linux, and I found at Linuxcare a bootable BBC that is
supposed to boot from a CD - the ISO image. I downloaded it , and
burned it to a CD, but it does not seem to boot from the CD. Is it bec
I used MS Windows to do all these?
I'm guessing that this image is a mirror of an already installed Linux
file system. Is there a special program like tar to unravel this 1
big file.iso to it's tree structure? I also have the small peanut
ISO if someone knows this better
I have a suse 6.2 installed but no GUI yet. I'm struggling with the X
part bec it doesn't like my ati rage 128 card, even with the r128
driver. Or maybe I'm doing it wrong.
Will probably wait till this new kernel release + the new KDE. But
any help would be appreciated.
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From: "Andre Liem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to mount a floppy drive?
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 20:03:52 -0800
How do I mount my floppy drive so I can use it? Currently there is a
dir: mnt/floppy
but what do I do so I can use it? What command? Thanks.
Linux Newbie.
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