Linux-Setup Digest #934, Volume #19              Mon, 30 Oct 00 07:13:05 EST

Contents:
  Re: Win2K NTFS + Linux dual boot: LILO where? (Eric)
  Re: Burning CD for RH7: Does label matter? (Eric)
  Re: How to configure Apache Web Server! (bitrunner)
  Re: How to configure Apache Web Server! ("Ivan")
  Re: Linux and NTFS (Eric)
  Re: boot partition too big (Eric)
  Re: removing busy modules (Eric)
  How to Auto Insert USB module? (root)
  Re: how to set time in linux (Villy Kruse)
  Re: RPM cannot upgrade my kernel - why??? (Villy Kruse)
  Suse 6.4...........................QT library ("A. Groeneveld")
  Re: Linux apps (Tony Hammitt)
  Re: removing busy modules (Tux)
  No harddrive detected when installing Suse 7.0 - advice asked. ("Padwanna")
  Re: Logging start up messages (CDM)
  MS Mouse in Turbo linux ("Warren")
  Re: Setting the system date ("Horrorshow")
  Re: How to Auto Insert USB module? (Eric)
  How to configure Web server! ("low")
  Re: No harddrive detected when installing Suse 7.0 - advice asked. (Eric)
  BUG IN DYNAMIC LINKER ld.so: dl-version.c: 210: (Werner Riebesel)
  Re: UPS Shutdown for Linux ("St. Otto")
  Can't boot NT from lilo. (Gregorio Corral Torres)

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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Win2K NTFS + Linux dual boot: LILO where?
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 09:10:31 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Murray Eisenberg wrote:
> 
> I don't think I understand the part of the reply shown below.  Part of
> installing RedHat (7.0) is installing LILO.  I believe it asks where to
> put it.  How can one do the steps you list in that case?  Or, if I'm not
> supposed first to install RH to my hard disk, then how can I edit
> lilo.conf????
> 
> Also, do I lose anything (in speed, safety, capability, user
> friendliness, whatever) by not using the NT -- actually, Windows 2000 --
> loader?
> 
> Eric wrote:
> >
> > May I suggest to use LILO os your main bootloader?
> > It's much easier to setup:
> >
> > 1) boot linux (using a bootfloppy)
> > 2) dd if=/dev/hda of=MBR.img bs=512 count=1 (just to be able to restore)
> > 3) put LILO in the MBR (line in lilo.conf boot=/dev/hda2 should be
> > boot=/dev/hda)
> > 4) add an other part to lilo.conf: other=/dev/hda1
> >                                          label=NT
> > 5) rerun /sbin/lilo -v
> > 6) reboot
> >
> > There's nothing more to it.
> >
> > If for any reason either linux or NT won't boot you can put MBR.img back
> > to put the NT bootloader back in the MBR.
> >
> > Eric
> 
> --
> Murray Eisenberg                     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Mathematics & Statistics Dept.       phone 413 549-1020 (H)
> Univ. of Massachusetts                     413 545-2859 (W)
> Amherst, MA 01003-4515

Okay, first thing you do is during the install, you can place lilo in
the root partition (this is an option during installation) Make sure to
make a bootdisk too.
Now when you reboot, you will probably have the NTloader starting,
allowing you to only boot NT (it isn't setup yet to boot linux too) You
can boot linux only from floppy now.
Now you can follow the HOWTO on linux+NT-bootloader to setup a dual boot
system using the NT loader, or you can follow the steps I desribed and
use LILO as you bootloader.

Eric

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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Burning CD for RH7: Does label matter?
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 09:14:14 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Norman Baccari wrote:
> 
> oSophos wrote:
> >
> > No.. the label doesn't matter.....
> > but, why would you want to change them?
> > they come already defined in the ISO (image)...
> > and they work perfect......
> > so.. if there is no real need.. dont' touch!
> > chau,
> > oSophos
> 
> Reason I ask is 'cause Im totally new to burning cd's.
> Im using the software that comes with the HP8100 CDRW
> I realize now that I should be "copying" the image
> file to the CD but when I do this with the Adaptec
> copier that came with the burner it doesn't recognize
> the .iso file, complaining that its not a valid
> Adaptec cd image file (.cif), and this seems to be the
> only image file option for copying. Is there some other
> software on the net I can use to copy these images??

Yeah, cdrecord.... :-)

> Thanks IA!!
> 
> Norm Baccari

.iso files are handled by adaptecs disc copier software (at least the
version I have)
You must select the .iso filtering though when selecting an image
(default is *.cif)
Don't copy the image to disc directly. It must be written as a CD-image.

Eric

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From: bitrunner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,de.comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: How to configure Apache Web Server!
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 09:11:17 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

you must reconfigure the file:

<apache_dir>/httpd/httpd.conf


Did you read the README file?
This is explained there.



low wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm a new linux user, i had install Red Hat Linux 6.2, when the server boot
> up error msg
> 1. domain not bound
> 2. http can not star up - can not found local name
> 
> Can any one tell me how to solve these problems
> Low

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From: "Ivan" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: How to configure Apache Web Server!
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 08:40:28 +0100

"low" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> I'm a new linux user, i had install Red Hat Linux 6.2, when the server
boot
> up error msg
> 1. domain not bound
> 2. http can not star up - can not found local name
>
>
> Can any one tell me how to solve these problems
> Low
>
>
>

You must use Linuxconf or Webmin - go into the apache section and insert the
name of your server in Server Name .....

Bye

Ivan



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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and NTFS
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 09:28:48 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jeffrey Turner wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
>     I have Windows 2000 installed on my C: Drive with NTFS.  I then
> installed Linux (OpenLinux 2.2) on my second hard drive.  When it got to
> the point about configuring dual-boot I got an error message saying that
> the main drive was not formatted in FAT16 or FAT32.  Is there a solution
> to this problem, short of reformatting both drives and reinstalling
> everything?
> 
> --Jeff Turner

Nooo don't reinstall.
Al it says is that it cannot find another OS that it can set a dual boot
entry to.
Appearantly NT is not so seen as an OS that it can dual boot with.
Ignore the message and add the NT entry afterwards to your lilo.conf

Eric

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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: boot partition too big
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 09:32:39 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mike wrote:
> 
> From what I understand, the /boot partition can be no larger than 16
> MEGABYTES.
> 
> "G.Lambda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8tfi6j$8q9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hello !  I want to install Red Hat 6.2  linux on my new PC.   I have a 40
> Gb
> > drive, from which 20 Gb are used for Windows Millenium (FAT32).
> >
> > I may add some partitions like (/usr or swap) without any problem.   As
> soon
> > as I try to create a "/" or "/boot" partition,  the systems gives the
> > following message"boot partition too big", wether my parameter wa 1 or 30
> Gb
> > !!
> >
> > May anyone explain this or give a workaround ?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >

Oh dear, there goes another wild story......
There's is no such limit.
It is advised very often to make /boot approx. 16 MB, but there's  no
other reason
for this advise that the fact that you don't need more space there
usually.

The message comes from the fact that /boot is not entirely below cyl.
1024, as someone else already mentioned.

Eric

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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: removing busy modules
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 09:35:48 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Tux wrote:
> 
> hi!
> 
> how can I remove busy modules or find out who is using them?

You cannot remove a module while it is in use.
I don't know how to find out who is using it.
Perhaps when you tell us what module you are referring to?

Eric

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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: How to Auto Insert USB module?
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 16:37:11 +0800

Dear sir

I am using a Creative Web3 Cam and have installed a usb driver ov511.o.
However, I need to use the command "insmod ov511.o" to activate it. I
have tried to use xconfig to set "y" instead of "m" and then build
kernel again but cannot work :-(. Is there any place in Linux can
automatically run some commands during startup (such as AUTOEXEC.BAT in
DOS) ?

Please give me some advices on this case.

Thanks a lot

Alan Po


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: how to set time in linux
Date: 30 Oct 2000 09:28:13 GMT

On 30 Oct 2000 02:44:02 GMT, Professor Bruno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Tom Brinkman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

>: alias tdate="rdate -sp time.nist.gov" 
>
>:     I put that alias in /etc/bashrc (Mandrake 7.2).  Then
>: anytime I'm connected to the Net, I can su to root and type
>: 'tdate'   That sets the system clock to the correct time
>: from the time.nist.gov server.  In my case US Central time. 
>: You may want a different time server.  I then type
>: 'hwclock --systohc' to set the hardware clock (bios) to the
>: corrected system clock.
>
>:    Tom
>
>
>How dangerous is this?  I heard if you play around with system time on 
>live servers that you muckup the kernel and system logging, especially
> on Solaris.  Is that not true for Linux?
>


Depends by how much the clock is off.  On some systems, if you forward
the clock, then the cron daemon will try to catch up, possibly starting
everything in crontab several times.  So therefore it is not wise to
adjust the clock by more than a couple of minutes except at boot time.

If a device driver uses the system clock instead of the jiffy counter
for timing purposes, then adjusting the time could seriously upset
the working of these drivers.  


Villy

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: RPM cannot upgrade my kernel - why???
Date: 30 Oct 2000 09:32:23 GMT

On Sun, 29 Oct 2000 05:14:19 GMT, Lester Mommsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I seemed to remember seeing somewhere where you have to upgrade the
>kernal in order, ie 2.2.14 to 2.2.15, 2.2.16 etc.       ???
>Les Mommsen
>Marysville, WA
>


And the reason would be ???


No, IMHO, there are no such requirement unless you upgrade using only
kernel patch files downloaded from one of the official kernel archives.


Villy

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From: "A. Groeneveld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Suse 6.4...........................QT library
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:36:07 +0100

Hello who knows how i can check if the QT library is well installed on my
suse system?
When i use Kdevelop with qt library it says it cannot find all qt
widgets..........



--
Andr� Groeneveld
Middelweg 11
3235 NM Rockanje NL
Telefoon: 0181 401544
Fax: 020 8688169
Homepagina: www.home.hccnet/a.groeneveld



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From: Tony Hammitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.alpha
Subject: Re: Linux apps
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:24:14 GMT

http://www.freshmeat.net  (not .com, that's another kind of site entirely... =-)

Cooperative development is taking place in several places, most notably
sourceforge.net but the links on freshmeat will probably all have a page about
continuing development.

Regards,

Tony Hammitt


John Beardmore wrote:
> 
> Now I've got Linux half configured on an Alpha box, I'm starting to
> wonder what application software I can load beyond my server needs.
> 
> Beyond server apps, my main interests are graphics, page layout and
> electronics, so what is available for
> 
>   image manipulation,
> 
>   page layout,
> 
>   circuit schematics,
> 
>   data visualisation,
> 
>   PCB design and
> 
>   cad
> 
> etc ?
> 
> Is there any catalogue or archive of reviews of apps for Linux ?  I
> don't mind trying out a fair bit of software experimentally, but I'd
> prefer not to spend too much time on it if I can research it first.
> 
> Are there any co-operative app development efforts going on in the above
> areas ?
> 
> Cheers, J/.
> --
> John Beardmore

-- 
Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd. -- Voltaire

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From: Tux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: removing busy modules
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 11:25:37 +0100

Eric wrote:

> You cannot remove a module while it is in use.
as I feared....

> I don't know how to find out who is using it.
> Perhaps when you tell us what module you are referring to?

I'm referring to a device driver programmed by myself. There arn't any
special options.

Tux

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From: "Padwanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: No harddrive detected when installing Suse 7.0 - advice asked.
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 11:31:35 -0800

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Any help is gratefully accepted.

Thanks and keep smiling

A.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (CDM)
Subject: Re: Logging start up messages
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 11:00:40 +0100

You might also check out some files in /var/log

"John Beardmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:udgjQqcVqN$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Is there a simple way to get Linux to log its start up messages to a
> file so I can check which hardware it's detecting and configuring at
> leisure ?
>
>
> Cheers, J/.
> --
> John Beardmore




Opinions expressed herein are my own and may not represent those of my employer.


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From: "Warren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: MS Mouse in Turbo linux
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 12:52:16 +0200

Hi

I am trying to load a MS PS2 Intellimouse on TL 6.0 but all I get is a black
line box instead of a mouse cursor. Any ideas.

It all works fine with RH, debian etc.



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From: "Horrorshow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Setting the system date
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:50:03 GMT


"Marc Balsys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> JNN wrote:
> >
> > I have a real newbie question I'm embarassed to ask, but I was
> > recently forced to switch to a dedicated server with Cobalt Linux
> > release 5.0 installed, so I'm having to learn this stuff as I go.
> >
> > What's the exact command and format to change the system date?  I know
> > it's "date" followed by a certain format.  Any help is appreciated.
> > TIA.
>
> just check out : man date.
> this should help you.

Yeah right...the man page for date makes the one for bc look real
newbie-friendly.



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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: How to Auto Insert USB module?
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 11:59:44 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

root wrote:
> 
> Dear sir
> 
> I am using a Creative Web3 Cam and have installed a usb driver ov511.o.
> However, I need to use the command "insmod ov511.o" to activate it. I
> have tried to use xconfig to set "y" instead of "m" and then build
> kernel again but cannot work :-(. Is there any place in Linux can
> automatically run some commands during startup (such as AUTOEXEC.BAT in
> DOS) ?
> 
> Please give me some advices on this case.
> 
> Thanks a lot
> 
> Alan Po

Put the insmod line in /etc/rc.d/rc.local

Eric

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From: "low" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,de.comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: How to configure Web server!
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 17:30:01 +0800

Hi,

I'm a new linux user, i had install Red Hat Linux 6.2, when the server boot
up error msg

1. Binding to the NIS domain ...
    Listening for an NIS domain Server:...
    can't yp_bind, Reason 'Domain not bound'

2. starting http...
    can not determine local name
    Use the Server Name directive to set it manually


Can any one tell me how to solve these problems
Low





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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: No harddrive detected when installing Suse 7.0 - advice asked.
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 12:24:05 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi All,
> 
> I am trying to install Suse linux 7.0 on a pretty much standard PC with a 20GB 
>h/drive. When the install modules go looking for hard drives to use for the 
>installation, it returns the error "No Harddrive detected". The h/d has been 
>formatted using Windows 98 fdisk, with large h/d support (and physically formatted 
>with 'format' utility). The drive was partitioned into a primary partition and an 
>extended partition which was further formatted as a logical drive.
> 
> Any help is gratefully accepted.
> 
> Thanks and keep smiling
> 
> A.
> 
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> GSM +31 (0)20 0625 098 643

You can start with not posting in html, but plain text.

You PC is probably pretty new and uses an ATA66/100 controller?
Go to the SuSE site and get a driver for your controller. If they don't
have it,
search freshmeat.net to find it and your last resort should be google

Eric

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From: Werner Riebesel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: BUG IN DYNAMIC LINKER ld.so: dl-version.c: 210:
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 17:45:33 +0100

Hi there!

When I want to run a self written program, I get the error msg:

BUG IN DYNAMIC LINKER ld.so: dl-version.c: 210: _dl_check_map_versions:
Assertion `needed != ((void *)0)' failed!

The same msg comes up when I try to list the libraries of this program
using ldd.

Any hints what went wrong?

Thanks, Werner
-- 
**********************************************************************
**                        http://www.jongl.de                       **
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From: "St. Otto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: UPS Shutdown for Linux
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 12:31:52 +0100

Dodd wrote:

> Now for the question....I have heard that 98 won't accept a shutdown
> command from outside it's own OS (security or something), but is there
> a way to have the 98 machine signal the Linux boxes to shutdown over
> the network??
> 

If there is any way in Windows (I don't know about that...) you could
take "rsh" from the win machine to shutdown the linux machines.
It would be some difficult to configure it, but I think, it will work.

Steffen

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From: Gregorio Corral Torres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can't boot NT from lilo.
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 12:45:32 +0100

Hellow,


    I have a disk with de following partitions

Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1245 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes

Device       Boot         Start        End        Blocks        Id
System
/dev/hda1                        1          717        5759271       17
Hidden HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hda2      *              718           972     2048287+       7
HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hda3                      973           1245      2192872+    5
Extended
/dev/hda5                      973           980        64228+
83    Linux
/dev/hda6                      981           996        128488+    82
Linux swap
/dev/hda7                      997          1118       979933+     83
Linux
/dev/hda8                     1119         1179       489951        83
Linux
/dev/hda9                     1180         1211       257008+      83
Linux
/dev/hda10                   1212         1219         64228+      83
Linux
/dev/hda11                   1220         1245       208813+      83
Linux


 I need boot the second partition ( /dev/hda2) with Windows NT
system, but  can't doit.

 I'm using  LILO and this is may lilo.conf:

lilo.conf:

lba32
boot=/dev/hda3
root=/dev/hda5
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
delay=20

vga=normal

default=Linux

image=/vmlinuz
          label=Linux
          read-only

image=/vmlinuz.old
             label=LinuxOLD
             read-only
             optional

other=/dev/hda2
            label=NT1

other=/dev/hda1
            label=NT2


When i tray booting the second partition the system show me a
message like this "no kernel NT". I'm sure that Windows NT instalation
is correct but i don't  know how can i boot it.

What can I do to make it work ?

Thanks for your help !




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