Linux-Setup Digest #939, Volume #19 Mon, 30 Oct 00 15:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: Changing graphics card ("ne...")
Re: Linux on a 66Mhz 486 with a 240MB disk? ("William Alexander Segraves")
linux - file synchronization (Andrey Shipsha)
Mandrake Linux Setup (Derek Battams)
Port scanners (Jeff)
Re: KDE 2 on RedHat 7 works for non-root user from runlevel 3, but ("ne...")
recover MBR for lilo bootup how? (Afonso Sam)
Re: Newbie: Upgrading RPM ("ne...")
Re: Port scanners (Tux)
Re: ALSA sound modules ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Stock RH6.2 recompile buggy...Normal? ("ne...")
Re: XFree86 question ("Bob Cent")
Installing Linux on a 2nd Hard Drive Help Needed ("Denied")
Re: Help: RPM cannot upgrade itself (dt)
Re: Help: RPM cannot upgrade itself (dt)
Re: Linux on a 66Mhz 486 with a 240MB disk? (DeAnn Iwan)
Re: Pentium 200 Wanted (John Beardmore)
Can't install Redhat 7.0 ("Michael J. Johnston")
Re: Moving /usr From One Partition To Another (Jeffrey J. Hallman)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.alpha
From: "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Changing graphics card
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 18:46:17 GMT
On Oct 30, 2000 at 02:20, John Beardmore eloquently wrote:
>I've got a DEC 2100 Alpha server which came with an old Number 9 S3 928
>16 bit ISA card in an EISA slot.
>
>Linux has found this and configured it, and it works OK in text mode in
>23 * 80.
>
>( Is there a way to up the number of lines to 50 ?? )
I assume you use milo to boot. See whether it supports
'vga=ask' like lilo does.
>Using this card, I can run startx and get a desktop, but only in 8 bits
>per pixel video mode at 640 by 480. the desktop simply won't start if
>higher resolutions are specified in Xconfigurator. Is there a work
>around for this ?
This is dependent on the amount of ram the card has and its
specs.
>Thinking that an old ISA video card would be a bit crap, I tried
>removing it and substituting a spare Matrox Millennium with 2 meg of
>video RAM. To my delight, Linux booted OK into text mode, noted that
>the Number Nine card was gone and configured the Millennium.
>Unfortunately, any attempt to do a PCI probe on the card failed with a
>'red screen of death', and any attempt to configure it by hand in
>Xconfigurator then startx also resulted in a red screen dump. Is there
>a work around for this ?
As is mentioned in anotha post, do not probe Matrox cards.
>In the long run, I'd like to play with graphics and X a lot on this
>machine, so if these two cards won't function under Linux on this
>motherboard, is any card known to work well ?
Check out RedHat's site. Their hardware compatibility list
should help out.
--
Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org)
"Why should we subsidize intellectual curiosity?"
-Ronald Reagan
1:42pm up 8 days, 21:34, 10 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
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From: "William Alexander Segraves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on a 66Mhz 486 with a 240MB disk?
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 12:39:44 -0600
Reply-To: "William Alexander Segraves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
You may wish to try one of the older distros, say 3.X, of Slackware,
obtainable from www.slackware.org .
I installed the disk sets A, AP, the Perl part of D, and N on a 386DX33 with
8 MB ram and a 120 MB hard disk, together with a Linksys Ether16 10BaseT
NIC, saving an otherwise obsolete computer from the scrap heap.
The old 386DX33 is now a web server on a LAN with five computers, working
more than adequately for testing of Perl scripts, etc.
Bill Segraves
Auburn, AL
"Victor S. Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have an old 66Mhz 486 with a 240MB disk which runs perfectly
> reliably on Windows 95, but I basically don't use it anymore since we
> now have -- mostly for my wife -- a Gateway 733 with a 30 GB hard
> disk, and a 166Mhz Pentium MMX with a 10GB hard disk running RH 7.0.
> Is it conceivable that I could get some version of Linux (doing
> something useful) to run on the old machine? If so, what version (and
> what features) would you suggest?
> --
> Victor S. Miller | " ... Meanwhile, those of us who can compute can
hardly
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] | be expected to keep writing papers saying 'I can do
the
> CCR, Princeton, NJ | following useless calculation in 2 seconds', and
indeed
> 08540 USA | what editor would publish them?" -- Oliver Atkin
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From: Andrey Shipsha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux - file synchronization
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 19:24:23 +0100
Hello,
I wonder whether anyone could give me any help on how do I synchronize
files between my desctop and laptop machines? Both are running Linux. Is
there any good software available to do that?
Cheers,
Andrey.
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From: Derek Battams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mandrake Linux Setup
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 18:38:02 GMT
I've just installed Mandrake Linux on my system and to my surprise it
was rather easy to install, almost too easy. The installation found
all of my hardware (including soundcard) during setup and configured it
all without me having to tell it anything - very impressed! It even
automatically configured my DSL connection - all I had to do was give
it my id and password - again very impressed.
However, after installing I come to find that I've installed a beta
version of Mandrake Linux (7.2). When I downloaded the ISO images from
one of the FTP mirrors I downloaded the files from the current/iso
directory, I wasn't expecting to get a beta version, but I can learn to
live with it for now since I'm just playing around and learning a bit
about Linux setup and administration (I'm dual booting with WinME).
Which brings me to my questions. First during the install I was never
asked anything about setting up my network preferences (hostname,
etc.). Now my system is called localhost.localdomain (yucky). As I
said, my DSL connection is configured and working, but I'd like to
change the hostname to whatever.battams.com (I have DNS hosting for my
domain, battams.com, elsewhere). I've done some exploring and reading
and playing around in Linux and haven't been able to successfully
change my hostname. How do I go about this?
Also, it seems that either the installation didn't install a web server
(Apache) or the httpd service isn't being started on boot up. In
either case, I can't connect to a web server, FTP server, or telnet
session on my Linux box through the Internet (i.e. http://64.x.x.x is
being refused). But I am able to send e-mail out to the Internet
through Pine. Doesn't Mandrake install the web, FTP and telnet
services on install? How can I go about getting that configured?
Finally, as stated above I want my Linux machine to be known as
whatever.battams.com (haven't decided on a hostname yet) and I have DNS
hosting elsewhere on the Internet. With my DSL connection using
dynamic IPs I will be using a CNAME record to point my domain for the
Linux box to another domain (such as dyndns.org) which will then have
my up to date IP address. Will this pose any problems?
This Linux newbie appreciates your help.
Thanks,
Derek Battams
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Port scanners
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:51:14 -0400
Anyone know a good port scanner for testing firewalls and allowing you
to determine what ports games run on etc.
Thanks
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Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
From: "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE 2 on RedHat 7 works for non-root user from runlevel 3, but
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 19:02:35 GMT
On Oct 30, 2000 at 12:04, Dale Hennessey eloquently wrote:
>Hi, everyone.
>
>Just installed RedHat 7, without KDE, and then installed the KDE 2
>RPMs from ftp://ftp.kde.org after-the-fact.
>
>Seems that every user can use KDE 2 from runlevel 3 without a problem.
>(I used switchdesk to set the .Xclients-default to KDE 2.)
>
>Non-root users, however, cannot start KDE 2 from runlevel 5 using gdm
>as the login manager. The screen blanks, then goes right back to the
>gdm login. Root does not have this problem and can start KDE 2 from
>gdm.
>
>Can anyone tell me what might be going on? What files I can check for
>diagnostic/error information?
I'm sure this is a FAQ. gdm is still looking for KDE 1.x stuff.
You need to manually edit the files in /etc/X11/gdm to set it
up properly. I guess this will eventually lead you to
/usr/share/apps/switchdesk/Xclients.kde2.
--
Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org)
You never gain something but that you lose something.
-- Thoreau
1:55pm up 8 days, 21:47, 10 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Afonso Sam)
Subject: recover MBR for lilo bootup how?
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 18:51:40 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In my case, Linux (Redhat 6.2) and win98 are installed in different
partitions of the same hard drive, Lilo is installed at the MBR. But
now, it has been overwriten by the norton disk doctor after repairing
the file system of the windows/dos partition.
(1) How can I recover the lilo on the master boot record?
if no solution, (2)How can I prevent from the occurance of the same
problem on my system. Boot lilo on diskette? .... any other
suggestion? since, for some reason, I cannot kick the windows out of
the box.
thanks,
afonso sam
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From: "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie: Upgrading RPM
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 19:12:20 GMT
On Oct 30, 2000 at 15:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] eloquently wrote:
>Hi,
>I am relatively new to Linux and need help upgrading RPM on Red Hat 6.1
>I currently have 3.0.4 and want to upgrade because I get a message that
>I can't install rpm's with major version numbers over 3. So, I guess I
>can't use RPM itself to upgrade to RPM 4.0, so I downloaded the tar.gz
>verison. When I try to install these I get a new message every time
>about some other library, tool I need - e.g., shared libraries,
>something called db3, which in turn asks me for 5 other things I need, a
>couple other tools....
>Granted, I'm new to Linux, but this seems ridiculously complicated just
>to upgrade from 3 to 4. Am I missing something here?
First off, if the new stuff you want to install is
from either Rawhide or RH7, don't! You only need to
upgrade to rpm 3.0.5. This handles rpms for rpm>4.
If you are upgrading and can't find the rpms at
http://www.rufus.org/linux/RPM/ then that means
you are going to have to compile the source. Sad as
it seems, RH are only doing security fixes for RH6.1
and maybe necessary upgrades.
--
Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org)
Trouble always comes at the wrong time.
2:08pm up 8 days, 21:59, 10 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
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From: Tux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Port scanners
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 20:13:28 +0100
Jeff wrote:
>
> Anyone know a good port scanner for testing firewalls and allowing you
> to determine what ports games run on etc.
>
> Thanks
What about SAINT?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:19:30 -0500
Subject: Re: ALSA sound modules
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 10/30/00
at 02:36 PM, "Dr. Jason J. Hogan-O'Neill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>I have to comment out those lines but then I am back to square one again.
>Surely there is SOMEONE who can go through step by step and say EXACTLY
>what to do. It seems that quite a few people are having problems setting
>up these alsasound drivers. I personally dont find the INSTALL
>instructiosn very easy to understand and straightforward.
Look at Buberel's notes at <http://www.buberel.org/linux/sound.php>; they
are helpful. F.
===========================================================
Felmon John Davis
Union College / Schenectady, NY
os/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack
===========================================================
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From: "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Stock RH6.2 recompile buggy...Normal?
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 19:22:46 GMT
On Oct 29, 2000 at 19:06, Michael V. Ferranti eloquently wrote:
>Here I was, minding my own business, and wouldn't you know it?
>"ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> just had to go and say:
>
>>Where did you get the .config file from that you used
>>when doing make [menu|x]config?????
>
> Straight from the source RPM on the install CD. I looked through all
>the other settings. Most everything is toggled to be compiled as modules,
>and I couldn't see anything particularly wrong with any of the settings. I
>definitely wanted to toggle off all the "experimental" code settings, but
>left it as-is instead.
I'll need a few more clues. What exactly is the problem? Meanwhile
a few comments. RH store the .config files in kernel-headers rpm.
This installs the .configs in /usr/src/linux/configs. If you intend
recompiling your kernel, copy the appropriate config file to
/usr/src/linux and make [menu|x]config. Before doing a make
modules_install, move the olde modules in /usr/lib/modules/<kernel
version> out of the way. You may also have to make changes to
your /etc/modules.conf file.
--
Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org)
Nothing lasts forever.
Where do I find nothing?
2:17pm up 8 days, 22:08, 10 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
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From: "Bob Cent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: XFree86 question
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 11:04:27 -0800
> I tried to run Xconfigurator, but it reports this message:
>
> Could not open default font "fixed"
>
> What does this mean? How can I work around it?
The problem was that my / directory was full and the X windows font server
could not load. As soon as I deleted a log file that got out of control
everything, works again.
Bob.
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From: "Denied" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Installing Linux on a 2nd Hard Drive Help Needed
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 01:03:59 -0600
Here is the situation.
I have a Win98 PC with a 20gig HD as my C Drive and a 15 gig HD as my D
Drive....both are IDE drives.
I have information on both drives formatted in FAT 32, and could easily move
my files so all they are on one hard Drive, preferably the C Drive.
In other words I would like to install my copy of Mandrake 7.0 on my D
Drive, and leave win 98 on my C Drive.
Here is the problem......due to a medical condition I have I can't remember
how to do it, and I can't find anything in the documentation, or on the
websites that outlines the procedures for accomplishing this task.
I did it before and it worked fantastic....but now I just can't find
anything that outlines the procedures for installing Linux on a second HD.
I have Partition Magic and Boot Magic ....
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From: dt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Help: RPM cannot upgrade itself
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 21:36:26 +0200
"S. Mittelstaedt" wrote:
<SNIP>
> >
> > To install rpm 4.x you first have to upgrade to 3.0.5.
> > Then use this to install 4.x. This is o RH's site.
> >
> > --
> > Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org)
> > The party adjourned to a hot tub, yes. Fully clothed, I might add.
> > -- IBM employee, testifying in California State Supreme Court
> > 8:26am up 13:13, 10 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
>
> Same problem. RPM upgrade to 3.05 didn't help. RPM 4 wants glibc upgrade. The
> glibc upgrade isn't compatible with RPM 3. Can't get to EITHER the chicken or
> the egg...
Get rpm-3.0.5-9.6x from http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/ (RH6.2 upgrade).
Handles RPM 4's as well, and no glibc upgrade required.
--
-Somebody put something in my drink-
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From: dt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Help: RPM cannot upgrade itself
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 21:36:26 +0200
"S. Mittelstaedt" wrote:
<SNIP>
> >
> > To install rpm 4.x you first have to upgrade to 3.0.5.
> > Then use this to install 4.x. This is o RH's site.
> >
> > --
> > Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org)
> > The party adjourned to a hot tub, yes. Fully clothed, I might add.
> > -- IBM employee, testifying in California State Supreme Court
> > 8:26am up 13:13, 10 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
>
> Same problem. RPM upgrade to 3.05 didn't help. RPM 4 wants glibc upgrade. The
> glibc upgrade isn't compatible with RPM 3. Can't get to EITHER the chicken or
> the egg...
Get rpm-3.0.5-9.6x from http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/ (RH6.2 upgrade).
Handles RPM 4's as well, and no glibc upgrade required.
--
-Somebody put something in my drink-
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From: DeAnn Iwan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on a 66Mhz 486 with a 240MB disk?
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:30:38 -0500
How about using it as a router/firewall to the internet? You
could either use a specialty distribution (like lrp, linux router
project, that runs off a floppy) or use any major vendor and tweak your
own. Note, if you are short of RAM, the new graphical installers will
probably not work. Suse still provides their old installer, YAST1,
along with the newer graphical installer, YAST2. Not sure if RH does a
similar thing. Debian and Slackware set up nicely on small machines and
older machines.
"Victor S. Miller" wrote:
>
> I have an old 66Mhz 486 with a 240MB disk which runs perfectly
> reliably on Windows 95, but I basically don't use it anymore since we
> now have -- mostly for my wife -- a Gateway 733 with a 30 GB hard
> disk, and a 166Mhz Pentium MMX with a 10GB hard disk running RH 7.0.
> Is it conceivable that I could get some version of Linux (doing
> something useful) to run on the old machine? If so, what version (and
> what features) would you suggest?
> --
> Victor S. Miller | " ... Meanwhile, those of us who can compute can hardly
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] | be expected to keep writing papers saying 'I can do the
> CCR, Princeton, NJ | following useless calculation in 2 seconds', and indeed
> 08540 USA | what editor would publish them?" -- Oliver Atkin
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From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Pentium 200 Wanted
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 02:45:24 +0000
In article <lezJ5.10239$_B5.65686@NewsReader>, DaveL
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>Hi,
>
>Anyone in the UK got a Pentium 200 chip for sale? I'm having trouble
>installing Linux with a Cyrix 6x86 and, not being particularly technical, I
>suspect that changing to a Pentium may be the easiest answer.
>
>Please email with details to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What continent are you on ?
Cheers, J/.
--
John Beardmore
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From: "Michael J. Johnston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Can't install Redhat 7.0
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 12:54:06 -0700
I've downloaded 7.0-i386-disk1.iso for Redhat 7.0 (From twocows) and Adaptec
burned it to a CD correctly it appears. When I put the CD in the machine,
it boots up to the CD and starts the install. After is askes to use
English, I get an error saying "I could not find a Redhat CDROM in and of
the CDROM drives. Please insert the Redhat CD and press OK to try again."
I throught that I did have the Redhat CD rom. I've burned 3 CD and I get
the same problem everytime. Does anyone have any ideas?
I also went to a mirror and downloaded the whole i386 english version, but
it's over a gig so I can't put it on a CD. Any help would be great!
Mike Johnston
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeffrey J. Hallman)
Subject: Re: Moving /usr From One Partition To Another
Date: 30 Oct 2000 14:44:14 -0500
Mike,
As I understand you, your problem is not enough space in the /usr partition
and plenty of space in the / partition. Symbolic links to the rescue!
Here's one way to do this:
1. Create usr2 directory in /, i.e.,
cd /
mkdir usr2
2. copy some of the largest subdirectories in /usr to /usr2. To see what the
largest directories are, try this:
cd /usr
du -sk *
I'm assuming you have the du command available. I work most of the time
on a Solaris system, so I'm not actually sure if your Linux distribution
has the du command. In any case, /usr/lib is probably one of your biggest
subdirectories, so you might start with that.
To do the actual copying of /usr/lib to /usr2, try this:
cd /usr2
cp -pr /usr/lib .
3. Check that everything actually did get copied. The directory /usr2/lib
should be a duplicate of /usr/lib
4. Now you can delete /usr/lib and create a symbolic link in its place. Do
this:
cd /usr
rm -rf lib
ln -s /usr2/lib . (Don't forget the dot!)
Now /usr/lib is a symbolic link to /usr2/lib, and you've freed up a bunch
of space in /usr. Not only that, but anytime somebody writes a file to
/usr/lib in the future, it will actually go into /usr2/lib. Symbolic
links are just the cat's meow, and one of the many reasons Unix is better
than NT.
Since /usr/lib is a very important directory, you may want to wait a few days
for people to criticize my proposal before you try this.
Jeff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Fry) writes:
> I have a multiboot system, amongst which, one of the systems is RH 6.2 -
> thus the strange partition arrangement.
>
> /dev/hdc5 contains / (root) partition, and
> /dev/hdc7 contains /usr
>
> Now, I'm running out of space on /usr and cannot, for the time being,
> add another HDD to the machine. I'd like to move /usr from /dev/hdc7 to
> /dev/hdc5, but am unsure of how to do this. Can someone list the steps
> that I have to go through?
>
> --
> Regards, Mike Fry
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
--
Jeff Hallman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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