Linux-Setup Digest #947, Volume #19 Tue, 31 Oct 00 14:13:12 EST
Contents:
Re: INIT: ld "1" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 min. ???? ("Stefan Morgenroth")
modules (HamburgPrecision)
Re: is there a thing like a generic boot sector? ("Manoj Sati")
Re: FTP installation RedHat 6.2 with NE2000 compatible ISA card ("Thomas Eisenzopf")
Re: geforce2 GTS problem (LONG) (Hagbard)
Re: linux - file synchronization (Paul Kimoto)
RHN won't give me systemid certificate (observer)
redhat: Out of Range (Lily Fu)
HELP FORGOT TO INSTALL BOOTLOADER!!! ("{[ZenmasteR]}")
Re: autostart gpm ("Jan Oberl�nder")
/bin/login vs /bin/su ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Fresh install of win2K and several linux flavors ("Ben Ginsberg")
determining half or full duplex | how to? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How to setup 2 linux & 1 bsd on same box? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
RedHat network configuration (Larry Spitz)
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From: "Stefan Morgenroth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: INIT: ld "1" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 min. ????
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 17:16:14 +0100
ok, thanx! can you give me a hint where to look at?
Stefan
"Tux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> Maybe ur partition number has changed? If so, the root-device cannot be
> mounted correctly and ld isn't able to find its files. Have a look on
> which errors you get before these errors - this could help you.
>
> Tux
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (HamburgPrecision)
Subject: modules
Date: 31 Oct 2000 16:41:17 GMT
After compiling a kernel with module support enabled, and booting that
kernel, is it possible to manually compile a module, then have it loaded at
boot time. I installed kernel 2.2.16-22 when I upgraded to RH7.0, but wanted
to add some features. I then downloaded the source for kernel 2.2.16. When I
compiled that kernel some of the modules I wanted to install were not available
with make xconfig, but I could get to work when I used kernel 2.2.14-5.0 What
I wish to do is to compile the modules for kernel 2.2.16 (not 2.2.16-22) and
add them to /lib/modules/2.2.16 so that i may use insmod to run the modules,
make sure they are ok then have these modules loaded at boot time. So in short
how do I compile a module, after I do I assume I just move it to
/lib/modules/2.2.16 (or a sub directory thereof) then run insmod modulename to
load it. Then how do I get that particular module loaded at boot time
(lilo.conf??)
Thank you
Brian
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From: "Manoj Sati" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: is there a thing like a generic boot sector?
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 16:41:35 GMT
Eric,
thanks for the reply...
> Add to your lilo.conf :
> other=/dev/hda1
> label=w2k
>
> and rerun /sbin/lilo
>
> Now with lilo in the MBR you can boot both OS's
i assume all this needs to be done from within Linux, right?
but once i finish installing RH 6.2, i can not start Linux if the LILO is
not installed on the MBR...and if do that, than W2K is lost for good...
OR are u saying to install LILO on the disk's MBR, then start into Linux and
then do the steps that you write off, and then both the OS'es will
work....and what does rerun /sbin/lilo mean? i am kind of a new to
Linux.....
i have installed both the OSes so many times now, that i would really like
to careful before i do it again...
any anwer is appreciated...
"Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > hi,
> >
> > my laptop has no floppy disk drive. I partitioned my Win98 machine using
> > fips into two partititons. On the first partition, I installed W2K. On
> > the second partititon, I installed RH6.2. I installed LILO on the /boot
> > partition which I had created. If I install it on the disk's MBR, then
> > W2K never boots up, RH6.2 always does. If I install LILO on the /boot,
> > W2K always boots up and RH6.2 never does (in fact, there is no option
> > to boot into Linux in this case). The solution, people say, is the make
> > a boot disk while installing Linux; but since I have no FDD, I can not
> > make one. One other solution is to copy the Linux boot sector to the
> > root of the disk, and then modify the boot.ini.
> >
> > # dd if=/dev/hda3 of=/bootsect.lnx bs=512 count=1
> > copy bootsect.lnx from your floppy disk onto the root of your C: drive
> > Edit C:\BOOT.INI and add the following line at the end:
> > C:\BOOTSECT.LNX="Linux"
> >
> > but again, the problem is no FDD. So, that set me thinking: if I can
> > get my hands on to the boot sector of a RH6.2 installation from some
> > means, then this will work. this boot sector need not come from my
> > Linux installation, right? i could copy this boot sector file from my
> > friends installation of RH 6.2 and copy it to the c: drive, and things
> > would work. is this possible?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > rb
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>
> Add to your lilo.conf :
>
> other=/dev/hda1
> label=w2k
>
> and rerun /sbin/lilo
>
> Now with lilo in the MBR you can boot both OS's
>
> Eric
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From: "Thomas Eisenzopf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: FTP installation RedHat 6.2 with NE2000 compatible ISA card
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 17:10:20 GMT
"Scott Nolde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Thomas Eisenzopf wrote:
>
> > When I try to install RedHat 6.2 with FTP installation on a PC with a
NE2000
> > compatible ISA card I have the problem, that the card is not recognized.
The
> > installtion disk seems to support only NE2000 PCI cards, not ISA. Is
this
> > possible?
> >
> > What possibilities do I have to install using the ISA card? Are there
any
> > parameters for loading the network drivers which solve the problem?
> >
> > Any help is appreciated!
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Thomas.
> >
>
> If you know what irq and memory io address,configure it to use that
> info. I have an ISA card for which I nust specify irq=5, io=0x280.
>
> See if that helps,
> Scott
Thank you, this worked!
Regards,
Thomas.
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From: Hagbard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,;
Subject: Re: geforce2 GTS problem (LONG)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 12:13:48 -0500
ok, i think i got most of this mess sorted out and thought i'd post in
case anyone else is having a similar problem...
apparently the problem was in the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file... I
changed /etc/X11/XF86Config, and thought i had changed the other but,
that's what i get for thinking...
i double checked XF86Config-4 and uncommented the load GLX portion. i
changed the driver from "nv" to "nvidia" and then tried to startx but
got a "can't load font fixed" error.
i went back to XF86Config and commented out the font path line that
referred to something like "unix\:1" or something similar and replaced
my fontpath info from a previously saved version.
and........ voila!!!!
startx works like a champ.
the only other problem i had was with switchdesk, which i had already
encountered before with xfree86 4.0.1 fubaring my xinitrc file (see
the reply I posted under "Switchdesk configuration unde RH7" for info
on that)
hagbard
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: linux - file synchronization
Date: 31 Oct 2000 12:15:51 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andrey Shipsha wrote:
> I meant my own files. Not system files...
> Could rsync help in this case?
Yes.
The rsync(1) man page: http://rsync.samba.org/ftp/rsync/rsync.html
Some rsync examples: http://rsync.samba.org/rsync/examples.html
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From: observer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RHN won't give me systemid certificate
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 17:14:54 GMT
Hello.
I am trying to register my RH7 system with RHN
but after RHN supposedly inventories my system,
all it gives me back is a zero length file
named `systemid', the first of which I dutifully copied
on top of my old systemid file, so that now
I don't have any systemid.
What do I have to do to get RHN to give me a new systemid?
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Before you buy.
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From: Lily Fu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: redhat: Out of Range
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 12:21:33 -0500
Hi,
I am new to linux administration and I need urgent help!
RedHat 6.2 was installed on a machine as 'server' type.
Today, I tried to upgrade it by adding X-Window
packages. After chose 'upgrade' and selected
the XFree86 and other packages, (using the customerize option)
it went ok, but it said 'mouse' couldn't be found.
So, I went to 'upgrade' procedure again,
this time, I though I didn't need to install any packages,
I clicked 'upgrade' and 'custoerize' but didn't
check any packages. Strange enough, the system
went to update all 214 packages from CD-ROM
Then, it rebooted, but gave me the following error:
"OUT OF RANGE
Hz: 30kHz - 130 kHz
Vz: 50Hz - 160Hz
CURRENT FREQUENCY
Hz: 27.8kHz Vz: 62Hz"
What does this mean?
I need to get the system back as soon as possible,
please help!
Thanks a lot!
Lily
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From: "{[ZenmasteR]}" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: HELP FORGOT TO INSTALL BOOTLOADER!!!
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 13:57:14 GMT
ARRRGH
just installed 7.2 and since i dual boot 98 and 2k and thought I was
supposed to skip boat loader
now I remember installing it with 7.0 (when I had it )
I have 1 16 meg boot partition right at the beginning and 3 gig linux
partition within a logical drive
How do I install bootloader after I installed everthing else?
and which partition was it supposed to go on?
TIA
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From: "Jan Oberl�nder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: autostart gpm
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 19:01:02 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Marc Ulrich"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I like using the mouse for cut & paste in the text screen mode & it is
> done using the "gpm -t ps2" (in my case). However, this can only be
> implimented whle logged in as root.
>
> How can I tell the Linux system to automatically load up gpm for all
> users?
You should have an init script ready, most likely in /etc/rc.d/init.d.
(or in debian in /etc/init.d). you need to put a symbolic link to this
file into /etc/rc.d/rc<runlevel>.d.
Greetings
Jan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: /bin/login vs /bin/su
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 18:42:55 -0000
I want to be able to have root start a logged in session for a user on
the current tty root has open. I want it to be a full session in all
ways (but that there may be a root shell waiting for it all to exit).
The /bin/login program does this EXCEPT it prompts for a password.
I want this session to start w/o a password problem (it will be safe
where I am doing this).
The /bin/su program does this EXCEPT it won't update utmp to show the
logged in session. I want it to show up as a normal logged in session.
Is there anything in between /bin/login and /bin/su to "do the right thing"?
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From: "Ben Ginsberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fresh install of win2K and several linux flavors
Date: 31 Oct 2000 18:48:36 GMT
Thanks, Eric, for your extremely helpful response.
I have one really crucial remaining question.
Q: How do I put Windows 2000 with NTFS on hda2 without blowing away LILO?
I did a little research on dual-booting Linux with Windows NT/2000, e.g.
http://www.computing.net/howto/advanced/linuxnt/
http://www.computing.net/linux/wwwboard/forum/671.html
I have also heard it said on this newsgroup that what I would want to do is
have NT put NTLDR on hda2, but how do I get it to do this? I know Win2000
might also be a little different than NT4 - do we know if both give us an
option of where NTLDR gets plopped, or do we just use some magic disk
utilities to move them around after first installing the beast? (The latter
option scares me a little, because of upgrade scenarios, but i could live
with that.) Do you recommend partition magic?
****
I really like your suggested partition scheme very much. Putting all the
kernels on hda1, with a size of less than 1024 cylinders, then, will assure
that all flavors of linux can boot. A minor question: I presume that hda1
should be FAT16; or do you recommend a linux filesystem here?
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> Beware that if you have winNT you cannot use FAT32 but have to use FAT16
instead.
I think I'll be okay with FAT32 since I'm using Windows 2000. Pre- SP5 or
SP6 NT4 couldn't read FAT32, but Windows 2000 can, and I even think that one
of these last two service packs fixed that for NT4, although here I could be
mistaken (I know one of these included a patch for the NT5/W2K NTFS which
NT4 could not read).
****
Finally, what does IIRC mean?
Thanks again,
Ben
"Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Ben Ginsberg wrote:
> >
> > I am sorry for such a long question; if you want to address just a
specific
> > numbered question, or a specific lettered topic, please feel free to
take a
> > stab at it. Or, if there is some place that is a good resource for this
> > stuff, please point me at it.
> >
> > INTRO
> > What is the best way to set up a dual-boot between Windows 2000 and
several
> > versions of Linux? I have a 20GB drive and know I want a w2k partition
> > (preferably ntfs), a shared data partition, and then several linux
> > partitions (Debian, but also perhaps Red Hat, Mandrake & SuSe).
> >
> > TOPICS
> > Specifically, I am curious about recommended
> > (A) partitions (primary vs. extended/logical)
>
> Max is 4 primary partitions of which only one can be an extended.
> Inside this extended partition, several logical partitions can be
> defined (don't know how many, but my default RH install has device nodes
> up to hda16)
>
> > (B) file systems (for shared data, for linux os's, for any cross-linux
> > shared mounts)
>
> Use NTFS for NT, FAT32 for storage/sharing and ext2 for the linux
> partitions.
> Beware that if you have winNT you cannot use FAT32 but have to use FAT16
> instead.
>
> > (C) boot loaders (should I cascade NTLDR to LILO?)
>
> I prefer the other way around, but yes, this is the usual approach.
>
> > SPECIFICS
> > My intuition tells me to do this:
> > Create a small primary DOS partition hda1, for NTLDR and maybe DOS/Linux
> > rescue. (Size?)
>
> Wouldn't do this, but you can create it.
> You will have to use the NT loader then to boot your system, the other
> way around wont work IIRC.
>
> > Create a primary NTFS partition hda2, & install Win2K; this will plop
NTLDR
> > on hda1.
> > Create a primary (filesystem?) partition hda3, for LILO and some flavor
of
> > Linux.
>
> make sure you have a /boot (approx. 16 MB will do, but it depends a bit
> on how many flavours of linux you wish to install) that resides
> *entirely* below cyl. 1024
> This will make your life a whole lot easier. I'd make this one hda1
>
> I'm not sure why you want all these different linux'es but you should
> share at least /boot between all distro's.
>
> Swap can be shared too (128M is enough, you'll probably hardly ever use
> it)
>
> I would not share any of the other partitions, because all distro's may
> have a slightly other location where they expect files, but I think it
> can be done. If you want to share everything, I wouldn't even bother to
> install different versions and only use the kernels.
>
>
> i would partition you disc like this:
>
> hda1 16-30 MB /boot (depends greatly on how many kernels you wish to
> install)
> hda2 NT partition
> hda3 FAT32 share partition
> hda4 extended (linux extended)
> hda5 / linux-debian
> hda6 / linux-RH
> hda7 / linux-mandrake
> hda8 / linux-suse
> hda9 128 swap
>
> Choose the sizes of the NT/FAT/linux-root partitions to your liking
>
> Eric
>
> > Create an extended partition hda4, with a logical partition hda5 for
shared
> > data among all OS's.
> > Create additional logical partitions for other parts of Linux.
> > Questions
> > 1. Can I create other partitions outside the three primary and one
extended?
> > 2. Can Linux work okay inside logical partitions?
> > 3. What's a good filesystem choice for the shared filesystem? (FAT seems
> > pretty wasteful.)
> > 4. What's a good way to configure the Linux partitions? (Just one per
> > flavor?)
> > 5. Can I create a common partition for, say, /usr, for use by each of
the
> > different versions of Linux? [Is there a common part of the Unix file
tree
> > structure for which all data would be version-independent?]
> > 6. Should I even try to share a partition among all the linux versions?
> > (Would it be /usr?)
> > 7. Can I share the swap file (and should this be one or two times the
128M
> > of system memory)?
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > Ben Ginsberg
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: determining half or full duplex | how to?
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 18:52:44 GMT
I'm running RH 6.0 on an old Compaq Presario with an integrated NIC.
I'm having some 'collision problems', and am wondering if there are
some half- vs full-duplex issues that might be the cause of it.
Can someone tell me how to determine the duplexing setup for an
arbitrary NIC under Linux?
Thanks!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to setup 2 linux & 1 bsd on same box?
Date: 31 Oct 2000 18:58:46 GMT
Use FDISK to divide up your 30 gig drive into 4 PRIMARY partitions: 1)
Debian, 2) Mandrake, 3) Linux swap file (128MB) and 4) FreeBSD. I believe
FreeBSD's file type is 163. Install FreeBSD last and use it's boot
manager (I am assuming you are using FreeBSD 4.1-the latest release- to
boot Debian, Mandrake and FreeBSD. Write down the names of your
partitions so you will know where each OS is located!
I would initially install all of these operating systems using the
SMALLEST configuration possible for each-I mean bare bones-no X
Windows-just the minimum. This will allow you to test that everything is
working, and if so, then go back and do it again and reinstall everything.
You can share the 128 MB Linux swap file between Mandrake and Debian.
FreeBSD will create it's own swap file.
I currently have 2 hard drives with Windows 98, BeOS 5, RedHat 7.0 and
FreeBSD 4.1 installed. Which is the fastest? It's a close race between
BeOS and FreeBSD. FreeBSD will reboot in less than 2 seconds but so will
BeOS.
Good luck!
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From: Larry Spitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RedHat network configuration
Date: 31 Oct 2000 19:04:33 GMT
I have had a number of problems with RedHat Linux 7.0 on a Dell Latitude
CPx laptop. At the moment I have this on a TCP/IP network with my Sun
workstations, another PC with Windows and a four year old RedHat Linux
and a Sonicwall firewall.
1. Changes made in a Gnome window (as su) are not persistent. For example
setting 'date' or 'hostname' takes effect but when re-booted the machine
reverts to previous values. When the changes are made from the console
(tty1), logged in as root, the changes become persistent. Though it took a
while to figure out the workaround, this is an inconvenience rather than a
show-stopper.
2. It is unclear to me in which order linuxconf, netcfg, netconfig should
be run and if there are other configuration programs I have not yet
discovered. netcfg seems to require a window system to run.
3. In pseudo-randomly changing settings such as eth0 protocol I can get
into one of two states:
3.1 eth0 protocol none
pinging myself works
dns relieant things like Netscape or ftp do not work
3.2 eth0 protocol dhcp
pinging myself doesn't work (perhaps because the source IP address
seems to be randomly assigned (perhaps from the firewall) )
Netscape and ftp work
4. Domainname seems to be particlarly ephemeral. It goes away (get sets to
null) from time to time, even though /etc/domainname contains the proper
information. I am sure that this is an artifact of something I am doing
wrong but I can't figure out what it is.
I have a batch of other problems too but I have the feeling that if I can
get this machine correctly configured once, most, if not all, of them will
go away.
BTW, RedHat installation support has be rather spectacularly unhelpful.
Any help would be appreciated.
Larry
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