Linux-Setup Digest #2, Volume #20 Thu, 9 Nov 00 03:13:08 EST
Contents:
Netscape? (Jay&Shell)
Re: How to copy/backup a machine? (cfish)
Re: kernel message (cfish)
Inspiron setup and Disk use (Joe Cao)
Re: Redhat 7.0 and a local host problem (cfish)
Re: Dial-IN PPP help!!! Please! (cfish)
oidentd & xinetd.conf configuration (mike)
Re: how to save network config setting? (cfish)
Re: Newbie setup probelms (cfish)
Re: LinuxConf and Suse... (cfish)
Re: Improving XFree86 Configuration (cfish)
Re: display problams (cfish)
Re: newbie problem (cfish)
Re: Troubleshooting: starting X-windows (cfish)
Re: Netscape? (cfish)
Re: Mouse trouble (cfish)
Re: no sign of Linux after setup? ("Igor Belianov")
Re: replicating a machine? (Dan Armak)
Re: Long file names ? (Dan Armak)
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From: Jay&Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape?
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 06:17:20 GMT
Ya YA.. Netscrap sucks.. What ever! I like it. I want to know how to
upgrade 4.73 to 4.76. I have done the uninstall thing and installed
4.76. But when I goto the howto docs it can't find Netscape. Is there an
easy way to install 4.76 over top of 4.73?
I am using Linux Mandrake 7.1 Kernel 2.2.16
Thanks in advance.
(Windows: A colorful clown suit for dos)
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From: cfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to copy/backup a machine?
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 06:19:55 GMT
tar and gzip
and read the free, online system admin guide
On Thu, 09 Nov 2000 03:53:01 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I have a linux box setup and running. I would like to make a backup/copy
>machine to use in case this one goes down. The backup machine has
>similar but not identical hardware.
>
>How can I make a backup/copy? Do I just use dd and copy the main
>machine's HD to the backup? (What about the MBR?)
>
>Jc
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
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From: cfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel message
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 06:26:14 GMT
if this persist after recompiling the kernel, you might wanna check
if the memory is faulty. replace the memory and see if this still goes
on.
lately there are some news about a feature that can mark part of a
memory "bad" and kernel will not use it. maybe that'd save you some
dough if memory is the problem.
On Wed, 08 Nov 2000 11:15:04 +0100, Matz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi there
>
>Every couple of weeks my server hast following kernel messages in the
>logfile.
>
>kernel 2.2.10 apache 1.3.12
>
>Ever seen that before? Probably crashed ram? Or what else?
>
>regards
>Matz
>
>
>Nov 3 03:15:00 perseus kernel: Oops: 0000
>Nov 3 03:15:00 perseus kernel: CPU: 0
>Nov 3 03:15:00 perseus kernel: EIP: 0010:[read_maps+300/788]
>Nov 3 03:15:00 perseus kernel: EFLAGS: 00010282
>Nov 3 03:15:00 perseus kernel: eax: c4cb8000 ebx: 00000002 ecx:
>00000000 edx: 00000002
>Nov 3 03:15:00 perseus kernel: esi: 00000002 edi: 00000000 ebp:
>8115b520 esp: cbb4df40
>Nov 3 03:15:00 perseus kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018
>Nov 3 03:15:00 perseus kernel: Process fuser (pid: 12600, process nr:
>93, stackpage=cbb4d000)
>Nov 3 03:15:00 perseus kernel: Stack: 00000000 00000400 0000003f
>c19effc1 00000000 00000000 40010301 00000001
>Nov 3 03:15:00 perseus kernel: 00000000 00000002 00000000
>c19ef000 40015000 8115b520 702d7772 c010d200
>Nov 3 03:15:00 perseus kernel: c01524fb 000056c7 c8f6c440
>40015000 00000400 c8f6c454 c0124e89 c8f6c440
>Nov 3 03:15:00 perseus kernel: Call Trace: [old_mmap+96/228]
>[arraylong_read+43/56] [sys_read+173/204] [system_call+52/56]
>Nov 3 03:15:00 perseus kernel: Code: 8b 7d 0c 89 7c 24 3c 0f b7 4d 14
>b2 2d f6 c1 01 74 02 b2 72
>Nov 3 03:30:01 perseus kernel: Unable to handle kernel paging request
>at virtual address 8115b52c
>Nov 3 03:30:01 perseus kernel: current->tss.cr3 = 0874a000, %cr3 =
>0874a000
>Nov 3 03:30:01 perseus kernel: *pde = 00000000
>Nov 3 03:30:01 perseus kernel: Oops: 0000
>Nov 3 03:30:01 perseus kernel: CPU: 0
>Nov 3 03:30:01 perseus kernel: EIP: 0010:[read_maps+300/788]
>Nov 3 03:30:01 perseus kernel: EFLAGS: 00010282
>Nov 3 03:30:01 perseus kernel: eax: c4cb8000 ebx: 00000002 ecx:
>00000000 edx: 00000002
>Nov 3 03:30:01 perseus kernel: esi: 00000002 edi: 00000000 ebp:
>8115b520 esp: ccf45f40
>Nov 3 03:30:01 perseus kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018
>Nov 3 03:30:01 perseus kernel: Process fuser (pid: 12623, process nr:
>104, stackpage=ccf45000)
>Nov 3 03:30:01 perseus kernel: Stack: 00000000 00000400 0000003f
>c197bfc1 00000000 00000000 40010301 00000001
>Nov 3 03:30:01 perseus kernel: 00000000 00000002 00000000
>c197b000 40015000 8115b520 702d7772 c010d200
>Nov 3 03:30:01 perseus kernel: c01524fb 000056c7 c8f6cce0
>40015000 00000400 c8f6ccf4 c0124e89 c8f6cce0
>Nov 3 03:30:01 perseus kernel: Call Trace: [old_mmap+96/228]
>[arraylong_read+43/56] [sys_read+173/204] [system_call+52/56]
>Nov 3 03:30:01 perseus kernel: Code: 8b 7d 0c 89 7c 24 3c 0f b7 4d 14
>b2 2d f6 c1 01 74 02 b2 72
>Nov 3 03:45:00 perseus kernel: Unable to handle kernel paging request
>at virtual address 8115b52c
>Nov 3 03:45:00 perseus kernel: current->tss.cr3 = 069b1000, %cr3 =
>069b1000
>Nov 3 03:45:00 perseus kernel: *pde = 00000000
>Nov 3 03:45:00 perseus kernel: Oops: 0000
>Nov 3 03:45:00 perseus kernel: CPU: 0
>Nov 3 03:45:00 perseus kernel: EIP: 0010:[read_maps+300/788]
>Nov 3 03:45:00 perseus kernel: EFLAGS: 00010282
>Nov 3 03:45:00 perseus kernel: eax: c4cb8000 ebx: 00000002 ecx:
>00000000 edx: 00000002
>Nov 3 03:45:00 perseus kernel: esi: 00000002 edi: 00000000 ebp:
>8115b520 esp: ccf89f40
>Nov 3 03:45:00 perseus kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018
>Nov 3 03:45:00 perseus kernel: Process fuser (pid: 12666, process nr:
>54, stackpage=ccf89000)
>Nov 3 03:45:00 perseus kernel: Stack: 00000000 00000400 0000003f
>cf6eafc1 00000000 00000000 40010301 00000001
>Nov 3 03:45:00 perseus kernel: 00000000 00000002 00000000
>cf6ea000 40015000 8115b520 702d7772 c010d200
>Nov 3 03:45:00 perseus kernel: c01524fb 000056c7 cd251de0
>40015000 00000400 cd251df4 c0124e89 cd251de0
>Nov 3 03:45:00 perseus kernel: Call Trace: [old_mmap+96/228]
>[arraylong_read+43/56] [sys_read+173/204] [system_call+52/56]
>Nov 3 03:45:00 perseus kernel: Code: 8b 7d 0c 89 7c 24 3c 0f b7 4d 14
>b2 2d f6 c1 01 74 02 b2 72
>Nov 3 04:00:00 perseus kernel: Unable to handle kernel paging request
>at virtual address 8115b52c
>Nov 3 04:00:00 perseus kernel: current->tss.cr3 = 013f7000, %cr3 =
>013f7000
>Nov 3 04:00:00 perseus kernel: *pde = 00000000
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From: Joe Cao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Inspiron setup and Disk use
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 22:26:15 -0800
Hello,
I just installed a redhad 7.0 on my Dell Inspiron 4000. I setup the X
window fine. But I don't know which server it uses, XMarch64?
How can I know that? Now the problem is whenever I move mouse or hitting
arrow keys (in X window
or not), I can hear a low zzzzzz... clicking sound. It
doesn't seem to be from
the speaker, because when I plug in the headphone, I
can still hear it. Is it a problem the notebook? When I use windows, I
don't hear it. Also when I am running
"x11perf -pointer", I don't hear it also. But after
the "x11perf" window disapperas, the sound comes back. It's very
annoying. Please let me know how to fix it.
The second question. Seems like the system (Gnome on Redhat 7.0)
constantly
writes to hard disk. I can hear the disk operation every 5 seconds or
so while
the system is idle. How do I
find out what's being writing or read from the disk? How do I disable
it? I don't
think the system has to use the disk that much.
Thanks a lot!
Joe
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From: cfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redhat 7.0 and a local host problem
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 06:33:37 GMT
I'm not a webmaster, not really familiar with these, but you can try
two things:
1. edit the apache configuration file. put your hostname on it. make
sure you have a hostname specified for this machine.
2. check the apache error log
the reason that i didn't tell you where the files are is because I
know my distro (SuSE) use completely different files from RH.
good luck.
On Thu, 09 Nov 2000 00:33:34 GMT, "Hisham Douba"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I installed RH 7.0 without any problems. However, everytime I try to start
>httpd, I get the error message saying it can not find the host name.
>
>I defined the IP address as 1.1.1.4 and I'm not connecting to any outside
>network. I gave the machine the name suzy. I left it to default to the
>network mask and default gateway.
>
>Please help if you can.
>
>Regards,
>
>Hisham
>
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From: cfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dial-IN PPP help!!! Please!
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 06:33:55 GMT
try printing yoru route table and report back.
route -n
also give an output of ifconfig
On Tue, 07 Nov 2000 10:32:42 -0800, Mark R. Holbrook
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I have been trying to setup my RedHat 7.0 Linux box to support dial-in
>PPP from a win98 laptop.
>
>My goal is to be able able to dial in and have Linux at like a mini
>ISP and give my laptop access to the LAN and to the internet for
>browsing, FTP, etc.
>
>I have made lots of progress toward this goal but I'm stuck on one
>final piece. After reading lots of documents on the net including
>this one:
>
>http://www.europe.redhat.com/documentation/HOWTO/ISP-Setup-RedHat.php3
>
>I have my Win98 laptop dialing in and connecting over PPP and
>establishing TCP/IP protocol with no problem. Win98 seems happy with
>the connection and so does Linux.
>
>Now here is the problem. It seems that NOTHING is ever sent back to
>the laptop. IE if I issue a ping 192.168.168.185 (my Linux box) from
>the laptop while connected the ping times out. I can see data going
>INTO the Linux box over the modem but NOTHING ever comes back out.
>
>Same deal if I try a browser. If I try to connect to: www.redhat.com
>I can see the laptop sending data but NOTHING is ever sent back to the
>laptop.
>
>I can't help but think that there is a simple routing issue going on.
>I just need help finding it.
>
>Here is what I have done so far:
>
>1) followed the application instructions in the web document above
>2) my laptop is assigned an IP of 192.168.168.51 (which is clear) from
>the Linux box.
>3) I have the linux box setup to forward IP
>(/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward=1)
>4) I have "defaultroute) in the /etc/ppp/options file.
>5) I went into linuxconf and set:
> a) my default gateway (needed for Linux to route to internet
>anyway)
> b) Enabled routing
> c) setup to export default route
>
>That is about as far as I know how to go. Can anybody suggest
>anything else to try!?
>
>Thanks in advance!
>
>Mark
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From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: oidentd & xinetd.conf configuration
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 06:38:03 GMT
I'm running RedHat 7.0 on a box I use to provide an ipchains firewall.
I use IP masquerading. My internal win 98 boxes are not able to connect
to dal.net irc servers due to ident errors and connection refusals by
the dal.net servers. I don't have problems with other irc servers and
ipchains seems fine for everthing else other than dal.net connections.
I've heard that the dal.net ident problem is associated with trying to
connect to dal.net servers throught a firewall with masquerading
enabled, and can be resolved by using oidentd. Can anybody send me an
example of how xinetd.conf is configured to use oidentd as a service?
Also, I'm loading the irc module in my ipchains rules, but I don't have
any special rules to accept, reject or redirect traffic in regard to
ports 113 or 6667 which are commonly used with irc. As I understand
things, loading the irc module takes care of the port issues. If
anybody has ipchains examples for use with irc, I'd appreciate any
example ipchains.
Thanks,
Mike
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From: cfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to save network config setting?
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 06:43:32 GMT
this depends on your distro. each distro put init stuffs differently.
basically you want the ethernet to get up and running right after
boot. you need to check your distro's docs.
www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Net-HOWTO/x196.html
On Tue, 07 Nov 2000 22:13:41 +0800, Į�꣨derain�� <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>in many books,i found that we can config the network during installation,or in
>Xwindows.but now i had a small disk,so i can not install Xwindows,i need to
>config my network in command line.as i know,the command 'ifconfig'can be
>used,and is works very well,but ererytime i reboot the system,the network
>infomation lost,so i have to re-config it manually,i wonder how to save the
>network infomation before i shutdown the server.
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From: cfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie setup probelms
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 06:57:26 GMT
On Mon, 06 Nov 2000 16:37:55 GMT, "Paul Hilton"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've decided to try to learn about Linux, because it has a reputation for
>being reliable, and is truly multitasking.
>I am having what must be usual Newbie type problems, and not understanding
>some things, I'm here looking for help.
>I'm using Red Hat Linux 6.0
>
>A few of my more intractable problems:
>
>1) When I call linuxconf from Gnome it gives me the character type interface
>in the terminal, if I try "linuxconf &" it starts a new process with the
>character type interface, not attached to anything (Can I attach a terminal
>to an existing process?) so I have to kill it. I found a reference to the
>DISPLAY environment variable, which is set to ":0", I can't find what sets
>it, startx seems to set display to :0 (lower case) but display isn't set to
>anything.
i don't understand what you are talking about here. what's attach?
what's the lower case of :0 ? how do you know if display is not set to
anything?
you should set the environment variable DISPLAY to your_ip:0
>2) I have installed roaringpenguin PPPoE for my Verizon DSL connection, and
>got it working to the extent that it logs in using adsl-start, and verifies
>with adsl-status, it even logs in during boot, however Netscape (in Gnome)
>will not find any connection to the internet, and often hangs. I can't find
>any options to tell it what interface to use to access the internet. The DNS
>references are the same as when I'm in Windoze. (I'm having to use Windoze
>to write this message).
>
>3)Sound. It correctly identifies the sound system as a Yamaha OPL3-SAx (It's
>on the motherboard of my DELL Dimension XPS), however it doesn't probe
>right, and sometimes when it try's to play the sample sound the whole system
>hangs. In Windoze it says the sound system uses 220-22F 530-537 388-38B
>330-331(mpu-401) 370-371 IRQ5 and DMAs 0 and 1. The options I get to try to
>set it to manually don't include all this lot, and it tries to allocate too
>much at 370.
you prolly need to edit /etc/modules.conf
>
>4)General lack of understanding. What scripts are run:
RTFM
>a) when the system boots
init
(depends on distro what happens next)
>b) when a user logs in (I think /etc/inittab, but I don't know what else)
depends on the shell
>c) when X Window is started (startx, is this all?)
read man page for startx
>
>I would appreciate any comments or (civil) suggestions.
>
>Paul Hilton
>
>p.s. I love the Gnames that all these Linux things have.
>
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From: cfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LinuxConf and Suse...
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 06:59:17 GMT
because suSE and redhat use completely different configuration files.
the location are different, sometimes the files are all different. it
will break badly. use yast instead.
On Mon, 06 Nov 2000 15:54:20 GMT, "Nick Zajerko-McKee"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Has anyone used Suse 6.2 and the latest linuxconf? I tried to use it and it
>seems to have caused my init scripts to not load correctly anymore. What
>seems to happen it goes from run level S to 2 and misses to initialize
>things like networks... The linuxconf is based on the RH version (as
>suggested by the main web site). Any suggestions on how to fix this would
>be appreciated.
>
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From: cfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Improving XFree86 Configuration
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 07:02:24 GMT
configurating X can be done independent of distribution. if you don't
have XF86Setup on your machine, use xf86config . these programs will
allow you to set up your X to have multiple resolution.
before you start, be sure you know your video cards. chipset. be sure
to copy the horizontal and vertical sync rates from NEC website.
thing should go smoothly, as you got a pretty good monitor.
On 05 Nov 2000 22:50:21 -0800, Edward Westin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I have installed Mandrake 7.0 on a P133. When I bring up DrakConf
>which is the gui configuration tool and select Resolution, I find that
>I only have a choice of 640x480. I have an NEC Multisync XF17 on this
>machine. Can anyone help me improve my resolution. Otherwise most
>everything seems to be working very well.
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From: cfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: display problams
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 07:05:07 GMT
mount the windows partition and copy it to your linux partition.
something like this:
mount -t vfat /dev/hda0 /mnt
this will mount the /dev/hda0 partition under /mnt. so you just copy
it.
On Sun, 05 Nov 2000 23:25:59 +0200, Guy Geva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>on friday i installed redhat linux 6.0
>it has some kind of problem probing for my display adapter memory
>i have 16mb and the probing attempt on the setup failed
>so i chose the 8mb and above option
>
>but when i turned on the windowX there was an output about me having 64k
>of memory and the only resolution i can use is 320x200
>
>i have an AGP adapter btw
>
>the driver for tis adapter does not exist in the installation disk
>so i chose the unlisted card option. after i saw that it does not work.
>i downloaded drivers for my display adapters
>but those drivers are on my windows partition
>and i dont know how to transfer them to my linux partition
>
>could some1 please help me?
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From: cfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newbie problem
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 07:06:18 GMT
yoru description is too vague. try use another utility to repartition.
like fdisk or something.
On Sun, 05 Nov 2000 19:46:04 GMT, "CSNI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Im installing mandrake 7.1 on an Asus CUSL2 Intel 815E Atx 733
>motherboard. Using the Drakx install program, when I reach the partition
>format proceedure, the system hangs or sometimes reboots on its own, usually
>at the latterportion of the hard drive.
>
>does anyone have any ideas?
>
>
>
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From: cfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Troubleshooting: starting X-windows
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 07:15:52 GMT
On Sun, 05 Nov 2000 17:10:24 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I have currently installed Red-Linux V.8 (based on RedHat 6.1 GPL) on
>my second hard drive, using the graphic installation mode (it had
the current version is 7.0
>recognised my riva tnt2 and my monitor!), and as it says in the
>handbook, all packages for the Xfree86 (and KDE) to start are already
>installed. However, when i try to start my KDE with the
>command "startx" as a root user, the screen goes black, the music
>comes, but when i switch back to the console, it says as follows:
>"kpanel: waiting for windowmanager
>could not read '/tmp//kfm-cache-0/index.txt
>kpanel: ok, commencing initialization"
>and it just freezes there and whatever command i type, it doesn't
>react. As i am a linux newbie, i am sure it is a fairly simple problem,
>but what is it, and how is it to be solved?
>thankyou for any help.
you have not provided much useful diagnose information, so let's
see...
1. have you looked at the file /tmp/kfm-cache-0/index.txt ? is it a
non writable file? it looks like a temp file for k file manager.
2. I am not sure if startx will find the right script to execute KDE.
try running kdm instead.
3. KDE simply runs too many programs when it starts, so it's hard to
know which part went wrong. I don't run KDE so you gota ask in some
KDE groups for help.
another thing worth trying: when "it freezes", try to jump back to the
virtual terminal by Ctrl-Alt-F1 to Ctrl-Alt-F6 . There, you will be
able to do a "ps ax" to see what programs are running. so you will
know if X is running, and what other k** are running.. maybe you'd
figure out the problem from there. you can then kill whatever you
think isn't working.
hope that helps.
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
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From: cfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape?
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 07:18:39 GMT
go to netscape.com and hit download. it's too easy to have a HOWTO.
On Thu, 09 Nov 2000 06:17:20 GMT, Jay&Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Ya YA.. Netscrap sucks.. What ever! I like it. I want to know how to
>upgrade 4.73 to 4.76. I have done the uninstall thing and installed
>4.76. But when I goto the howto docs it can't find Netscape. Is there an
>easy way to install 4.76 over top of 4.73?
>I am using Linux Mandrake 7.1 Kernel 2.2.16
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
>(Windows: A colorful clown suit for dos)
>
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From: cfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mouse trouble
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 07:19:20 GMT
how do you know mouse isn't detected?
On Wed, 8 Nov 2000 20:15:01 -0800, "The Dude" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I have a mini dinn mouse and keyboard and Linux detected my keyboard but not
>my mouse. The mouse works on win98 but not on Linux. Does anyone know what
>is wrong or can anyone help out?
>
>send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you know anything.
>
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From: "Igor Belianov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: no sign of Linux after setup?
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 10:30:56 +0300
Hi, Colin :)))
I really can't give good advices as much as it concerns Linux (sorry, it's
only my second attempt to master this OS :)).
The difference in behavior when installing I think results from the
difference in versions we use. Probably you need to find an utility which
can read and save the master boot record somewhere ...and then you can
compare is the MBR is altered after you install Linux. In my case, you see,
the MSB is locked. I'm wondering as well how it is possible in the time of
installation (when NT is not loaded and therefore cannot protect anything).
> I'm also curious how LILO knows to delegate to NTLoader when you select
you
> want DOS from the LILO boot menu... Based on what I've read from the LILO
> HOWTO, it looks like there is just an additional stanza added to the
> LILO.CONF pointing to the boot partition, but how does it know to get to
> NTLoader???
I think the mechnism is similar to that used by Windows NT. Likewise the
Linux installer saves the pervious version of MBR somewhere (look at
bootsect.dos which allows to start msdos when you don't want to start NT)
which in its turn enables selection between NT and DOS, for instance.
P.S. My version of RH Linux as well makes me experience troubles with
videosystem. It does not support ASUS 3800 Vanta Combat :(((. So, there is a
gigantic area for investigations ...
Good luck!
Sincerely,
Igor
"Colin Reinhardt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8uc1sn$1al$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi Igor,
>
> Thanks for the info. That is quite bizarre that Win2K can do this! I
> wonder how they detect the MBR is modified when the OS is not even loaded,
> and the POST process jumps directly to the first sector of the harddisk
(the
> MBR, correct?)...so I would think that would be LILO if we tried to
> overwrite NTLoader...hmmm!?! I would love to understand what is going on
> here. I will try to do some research and update to this post if I find
> anything...
> It's nice to know you've experienced the same so I know I'm not crazy!
>
> I did not receive any warning message saying LILO failed to amend MBR.
I'm
> running RH 6.2 setup from text mode, since GUI mode hangs my laptop
> (something wrong with display driver...).
>
> I cant really "kill" Win2K because it's an existing install with a bunch
of
> stuff in it already, so I'd like to find a workaround... Maybe I can
backup
> the NT MBR and then run an FDISK /MBR and then install RH?
>
> I'm also curious how LILO knows to delegate to NTLoader when you select
you
> want DOS from the LILO boot menu... Based on what I've read from the LILO
> HOWTO, it looks like there is just an additional stanza added to the
> LILO.CONF pointing to the boot partition, but how does it know to get to
> NTLoader???
>
> Too much magic going on here for me. :-)
>
> Colin
>
> Igor Belianov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8ub3vk$189h$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hi :)))
> >
> > Yesterday I found the same troubles and had to kill Win 2K because it
> > apparently locks MBR for modifications
> > (the nature of this phonomemon is not clear to me). When I installed
Linux
> > on the hard drive which contained pure
> > MS DOS installation and then Win 2K was mounted it started working. I
> simply
> > tell LILO that I want to load dos and after this NTloader appears. (I'm
> > using RH Linux 6.1 and its installer told about impossibility to modify
> > MBR).
> >
> > Good luck
> >
> >
> > Igor V. Belianov
> > -----------------------
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Office: +7 (812) 464 44 63
> > Home: +7 (812) 172 91 89
> >
> >
> >
> > "Colin Reinhardt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:8ua4jk$70s$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > I just completed the install of RH 6.2 on a harddrive where I already
> had
> > > Win2K Server and ME.
> > > I have Win2K and ME on the C: drive (bootable partition) and I put
Linux
> > > partitions (swap and native) on partitions behind C: (hda2 and hda3)
> > >
> > > The install went smoothly and I chose to put LILO in the MBR, hoping
to
> > then
> > > add info to allow LILO to boot into WinDoze. When I reboot it still
> goes
> > > right into NTLoader, like LILO never got written to the MBR!? Anyone
> know
> > > what went wrong? Is this some new "smart" feature of Win2K to auto-fix
> the
> > > "damaged" MBR?
> > >
> > > How can I fix this and make my system boot to LILO first? I've read
the
> > > dual-boot HOWTOs but they're all getting pretty obsolete now. Is
there
> > more
> > > current info somewhere?
> > >
> > > Thanks much for any help!
> > >
> > > ColinR
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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From: Dan Armak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: replicating a machine?
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 21:08:54 +0200
If the hardware is similar enough, you should be able to copy a working
Linux partition and then just adjust some final settings. Compile the
kernel with as many modules as you can (for hardware differences).
A very good program for backuping/resoring/copying partitions is Partition
Image at http://partimage.sourceforge.net/. It's beta but very stable; I
use it myself.
Depending on your distribution, you may able to save the installation
configuration and reuse it on each computer. This is better if you don't
have a permanent fast connection between these computers. I know SuSE can
do it but not very well; I don't know about the others.
Good luck
Dan Armak
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From: Dan Armak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Long file names ?
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 21:18:16 +0200
When you mount a prtition as "msdos", it does just that - like MSDOS, it
doesn't recognize long filenames. Mount it as type "vfat" (virtual fat) and
it should be ok.
Hope that helps,
Dan Armak
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