Linux-Setup Digest #3, Volume #20 Thu, 9 Nov 00 05:13:06 EST
Contents:
Re: Passing arguments to kernel at boot ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How to copy/backup a machine? (Jc)
Re: replicating a machine? (Jc)
Re: Passing arguments to kernel at boot ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Menu Config? (Jay&Shell)
Re: How to revert from a bad KDE to working GNOME in RH6.2 (E J)
Re: Netscape? (Jay&Shell)
reduce memory usage in Linux (Yuli)
Re: Wierd mouse jumping under RH 6-7 with Athlon. Help! (Eric)
Re: baffling kernel problem ("Dr. Jason J. Hogan-O'Neill")
Re: Help! set X server Color Depth (Eric)
Re: Simple help with network. Can't get outside the box (Josef Oswald)
Re: video card problems (Eric)
Re: video card problems (Eric)
Re: Get rid of all those .twm files ("w.m.boeke")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Passing arguments to kernel at boot
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 08:02:53 GMT
I have used the append statement in lilo.conf to set the ide bus speed
of my machine. Well worthwhile if you can. According to the man page
there is no harm done if you set it to a higher speed than your
motherboard supports anyway here is what my lilo.conf looks like:
boot = /dev/fd0
compact
timeout=0
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
vga = normal
append = "idebus=66"
read-only
image = /boot/vmlinuz
label = linux
root = /dev/hdb1
Yes you will need to run the command 'lilo' for your settings to take
effect.
Cheers,
Rod
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On 2000-10-28 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> >0x7402. I have tried placing an append statement in just about
> >every position within the /etc/lilo.conf file on the floppy disc
> >but have had no success. There is also a lilo.conf file in /etc
on
> >the root partition but this is not acessed until after the floppy
> >boot has finished. Can anyone tell me how to pass this argument to
> >the kernel without typing it in at every boot?
> >Thanks
> Do you run lilo after editing the lilo.conf?
>
> Net-Tamer V 1.08X - Test Drive
>
>
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From: Jc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to copy/backup a machine?
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 17:13:31 +0900
Thanks for the terse instructions but I forgot to say that this is my first
Linux instalation.I'm a real newbie.
Do you mean by your instructions that I should install Linux on thesecond
machine, then simply untar a copy of the first machine? If so I know this
approach is flawed simply because differences in the video card and monitor
will cause the Xconfig files not work on the backup machine ....
Jc
cfish wrote:
> tar and gzip
>
> and read the free, online system admin guide
>
> On Thu, 09 Nov 2000 03:53:01 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >I have a linux box setup and running. I would like to make a backup/copy
> >machine to use in case this one goes down. The backup machine has
> >similar but not identical hardware.
> >
> >How can I make a backup/copy? Do I just use dd and copy the main
> >machine's HD to the backup? (What about the MBR?)
> >
> >Jc
> >
> >
> >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> >Before you buy.
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From: Jc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: replicating a machine?
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 17:15:44 +0900
Thanks for the info! I forgot to mention however that I'm totally new with
Linux. I assume what what you recommend that I should install Linux on the
backup machine first .... but then I'm unclear as to how to copy "partition"
from one machine to another.
Any more information you have would be great!
Jc
Dan Armak wrote:
> If the hardware is similar enough, you should be able to copy a working
> Linux partition and then just adjust some final settings. Compile the
> kernel with as many modules as you can (for hardware differences).
>
> A very good program for backuping/resoring/copying partitions is Partition
> Image at http://partimage.sourceforge.net/. It's beta but very stable; I
> use it myself.
>
> Depending on your distribution, you may able to save the installation
> configuration and reuse it on each computer. This is better if you don't
> have a permanent fast connection between these computers. I know SuSE can
> do it but not very well; I don't know about the others.
>
> Good luck
> Dan Armak
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Passing arguments to kernel at boot
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 08:11:21 GMT
I've gotten around a similar problem by letting Windows write to the
root partition of the drive and therefore being the 'default' operating
system.
I have also configured /etc/lilo.conf to boot from a floppy by using the
statement boot = /dev/fd0
In practice my machine now runs windows with the floppy out and linux
with the floppy in.
This also gets around 2 other problems. Any time you re-install Windows
it would otherwise clobber your harddisks boot secotor. Having linux
boot off a floppy is a lot quicker than windows. It efectivly only uses
the floppy to see where to load the kernel from.
Cheers,
Rod
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"A. S. Paragus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am presently running RH 7.0 on an Athlon 950 system using an ASUS
A7V
> motherboard. Linux resides on an ATA-33 HD on the primary controller
> and Windoze is on an ATA-100 HD on the secondary IDE controller. In
> order to load linux I have to use a boot disc which contains an
> /etc/lilo.conf file. In order for Linux to access the Windoze disc
(and
> files) I need to pass te following argument at bootup:
> boot: linux x86_serial_nr=1 ide2=0x8400,0x8402 ide3=0x7800,0x7402.
> I have tried placing an append statement in just about every position
> within the /etc/lilo.conf file on the floppy disc but have had no
> success. There is also a lilo.conf file in /etc on the root partition
> but this is not acessed until after the floppy boot has finished.
>
> Can anyone tell me how to pass this argument to the kernel without
> typing it in at every boot?
>
> Thanks
>
>
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From: Jay&Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Menu Config?
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 08:30:16 GMT
When I goto the K panel Edit menus... Why does it say Menu Editor not
installed? Where is it?
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to revert from a bad KDE to working GNOME in RH6.2
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 00:32:56 -0800
$ vi ~/.Xclients-default # use your editor to edit .Xclients-default
# put this line and remove everything else in your file.
exec gnome-session
If you really mess things up. to get your system defaults back, remove
/home/user_id/.Xclients
$ rm ~/.Xclients
"Phillip J. Allen" wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I screwed up my user accounts XWindows. I was configured up for a GNOME
> workstation and everything was working fine then I told X to change
> itself to KDE (I figured I would at least see what it looked like).
> Then I restarted XWindows and it crashed.
>
> Then I realized that I never installed KDE. I am running RH6.2 and
> don't really feel like installing all the KDE stuff.
>
> So how do I manually change the XWindows settings back to start up into
> GNOME.?
>
> Thanks
>
> Phillip J. Allen
> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Jay&Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape?
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 08:35:14 GMT
cfish wrote:
> go to netscape.com and hit download. it's too easy to have a HOWTO.
>
> On Thu, 09 Nov 2000 06:17:20 GMT, Jay&Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >Ya YA.. Netscrap sucks.. What ever! I like it. I want to know how to
> >upgrade 4.73 to 4.76. I have done the uninstall thing and installed
> >4.76. But when I goto the howto docs it can't find Netscape. Is there an
> >easy way to install 4.76 over top of 4.73?
> >I am using Linux Mandrake 7.1 Kernel 2.2.16
> >
> >Thanks in advance.
> >
> >
> >
> >(Windows: A colorful clown suit for dos)
> >
Thanks dip shit! Maybe if you read the question you could have helped out.
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From: Yuli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: reduce memory usage in Linux
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 09:30:17 -0000
I got a 32 Mb of RAM, they says that Linux use quiet little memory (RAM)
than Windows.
But after I have Linux installed yet, I found that Windows proceed
execution (running Programs), faster than Linux. Linux use 98% of my RAM.
How do I reduce it?
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wierd mouse jumping under RH 6-7 with Athlon. Help!
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 10:36:48 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ross Cohen wrote:
>
> When running X, my mouse occasionally jumps
> around the screen and/or fires off random gui events
> (causing windows to close/open and other havoc).
> Usually X eventually crashes as well.
> This occures under RH 6.1, 6.2 and 7.0.
> It does NOT occur under Suse 7.0.
>
> My current mouse is a new three-button Logitech
> PS/2 model, but the machine did the same thing with
> cheap two-button ps/2 mouse also.
>
> MB: KA7
> Athlon 700.
>
> I am more familiar with RH and would prefer to stay
> with it.
>
> Any ideas would be appreciated greatly!
>
> -Ross
Do you have it using the imps/2 protocol or the ps/2 protocol.
Probably the last one, and it should be the first.
Eric
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From: "Dr. Jason J. Hogan-O'Neill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: baffling kernel problem
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 11:36:55 +0200
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Daryl Fonseca-Holt wrote:
> How are you doing for disk space? Especially root? Linux gets flaky when it
> runs out of disk space in root. I doubt if this is the problem, but you might
> take a look.
>
> Also, are you sure you ran lilo -v the last time you DID build the 2.2.17
> kernel? And when you did you had the correct System.map in place?
>
> On Wed, 08 Nov 2000 19:43:15 +0200,
> Dr. Jason Hogan-O'Neill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Ok folks,
> >
> >Its probably quite simple.
> >
> >The other day my puter just crashed/froze (happens occasionally) and so
> >I did what I nromally do - just hit reboot and then have to do fsck.
> >However on this occassion it got nowhere near that far. AT th elilo
> >promt it just said 'loading linux..........' (yes it did the dots) but
> >then it froze and didnt get to the next line 'ok loading kernel'. Just
> >froze! SO whats going on? It is the 2.2.17 kernel on RH6.1 Luckily
> >I have the 2.2.12-20 as linux.old. I type that at the lilo prompt and
> >everything just works dandy - I am able to get the system up and running
> >as it was before (except with no alsa sound).
> >
> >Now I didnt change anything and all of a sudden the 2.2.17 seems to have
> >just stopped. I cant even do 'linux 3' at the lilo prompt as it just
> >doesnt even anywhere near far enough.
> >
> >ANy help or ideas are appreciated.
> >
> >Jas
> >
> >Nope, I havent recompiled the kernel. I checked lilo.conf and everything
> >seems to be as it should be. Also checked the vmlinuz img links - all
> >fine.
> >
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OK thanks for the tips guys. First up, I didnt know you hav eto run lilo -v EVERY time
you complie the kernel.
By this I mean I have installed 2.2.17 quite afew times to get sound etc working. The
image remains the same so I
didnt always bother with lilo -v after the first initial 2.2.17 compilation.
Root space. Well its in /dev/hda2 and it hovers from around 77-92 percent. When I get
the time I then move my large
data and MP3 files to one of the other partitions which are well below 50percent full.
This freeze up thing. This has been happening since I got the puter setup 10 months
ago. It quiet literally just freezes
and there is NOTHING I can do. NO ctrl-alt-del, or alt-f1 etc etc. I have to press
reboot and go through fsck. But a couple
of days ago I was startng to think that maybe it is X (one of you suggested this). I
have the intel i810 and when initially
setup I wasnt able to get the support for it in the kernel (I only found out yesteday
that device drivers for this had in fact
come out a couple of months before buying the i810). So I have just been running with
a 'general' er thingy in the kernel;
same with the video card which is on loan from a friend and is rather old (I disabled
the onboard graphics card and used this
video card instead).
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Daryl Fonseca-Holt wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>How are you doing for disk space? Especially root?
Linux gets flaky when it
<br>runs out of disk space in root. I doubt if this is the problem, but
you might
<br>take a look.
<p>Also, are you sure you ran lilo -v the last time you DID build the 2.2.17
<br>kernel? And when you did you had the correct System.map in place?
<p>On Wed, 08 Nov 2000 19:43:15 +0200,
<br>Dr. Jason Hogan-O'Neill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<br>>Ok folks,
<br>>
<br>>Its probably quite simple.
<br>>
<br>>The other day my puter just crashed/froze (happens occasionally) and
so
<br>>I did what I nromally do - just hit reboot and then have to do fsck.
<br>>However on this occassion it got nowhere near that far. AT th elilo
<br>>promt it just said 'loading linux..........' (yes it did the dots)
but
<br>>then it froze and didnt get to the next line 'ok loading kernel'.
Just
<br>>froze! SO whats going on? It is the 2.2.17 kernel on RH6.1 Luckily
<br>>I have the 2.2.12-20 as linux.old. I type that at the lilo prompt
and
<br>>everything just works dandy - I am able to get the system up and running
<br>>as it was before (except with no alsa sound).
<br>>
<br>>Now I didnt change anything and all of a sudden the 2.2.17 seems to
have
<br>>just stopped. I cant even do 'linux 3' at the lilo prompt as it just
<br>>doesnt even anywhere near far enough.
<br>>
<br>>ANy help or ideas are appreciated.
<br>>
<br>>Jas
<br>>
<br>>Nope, I havent recompiled the kernel. I checked lilo.conf and everything
<br>>seems to be as it should be. Also checked the vmlinuz img links -
all
<br>>fine.
<br>></blockquote>
<pre>
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<pre>OK thanks for the tips guys. First up, I didnt know you hav eto run lilo -v
EVERY time you complie the kernel.</pre>
<pre>By this I mean I have installed 2.2.17 quite afew times to get sound
etc working. The image remains the same so I</pre>
<pre>didnt always bother with lilo -v after the first initial 2.2.17 compilation.</pre>
<pre></pre>
<pre>Root space. Well its in /dev/hda2 and it hovers from around 77-92 percent. When
I get the time I then move my large</pre>
<pre>data and MP3 files to one of the other partitions which are well below 50percent
full.</pre>
<pre></pre>
<pre>This freeze up thing. This has been happening since I got the puter setup 10
months ago. It quiet literally just freezes</pre>
<pre>and there is NOTHING I can do. NO ctrl-alt-del, or alt-f1 etc etc.
I have to press reboot and go through fsck. But a couple</pre>
<pre>of days ago I was startng to think that maybe it is X (one of you suggested
this). I have the intel i810 and when initially</pre>
<pre>setup I wasnt able to get the support for it in the kernel (I only
found out yesteday that device drivers for this had in fact</pre>
<pre>come out a couple of months before buying the i810). So I have just been
running with a 'general' er thingy in the kernel;</pre>
<pre>same with the video card which is on loan from a friend and is rather old (I
disabled the onboard graphics card and used this</pre>
<pre>video card instead).</pre>
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help! set X server Color Depth
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 10:39:33 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Daryl Fonseca-Holt wrote:
>
> If your are using startx to start X, then leave X and enter:
>
> startx -- -depth 8
>
> If you don't start X yourself, ie; you use runlevel 5 with X logins, you'll
> have to wait for help from someone else, I don't know how to do it.
>
If that's the case, as root run `init 3` and then `startx -- -depth 8`
Eric
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From: Josef Oswald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Simple help with network. Can't get outside the box
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 09:50:54 GMT
mailed and posted
Christian Bongiorno wrote:
>
> Ok, I am a rookie at unix admin. I have my cable modem plugged into the
> ethernet card in my mandrake 7.0 box. I can't get outside the box. A ping
> result in a "Network unreachable" and obviously web and ftp are just out of
> the question.
Hi :-)
you did not tell which NIC ( Network Interface Card) you are using.
In some cases you need to compile a new kernel with support for the nic.
( I am not 100% sure about that because I used a http-install for my
SuSE as well as Mandrake and the network is configured in the beginning
of the install)
Another problem could also be that your NIC has PNP enabled, ( even
though some Kernels
include PNP support nowadays, you still would need to check on that)
I hope you don't mind this link
http://ldp.atnet.at/HOWTO/Ethernet-HOWTO.html
> Question 1 is, how do I set this up correctly, and question 2 is, how do I
> force it to renew or release an IP address?
>
> direct email would be great
>
> Chris
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bugs only features....
the lie of the 20th. century..... will it continue in the third
Millennium?
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: video card problems
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 10:55:04 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Eric, did you want Riyaz's file or mine?
Riyaz's file, I wanted to take a look at it, so I could advise him on
what to change, to (hopefully) get a higher resolution. With XFree4.0
the X-server stuff has changed, so it might be so that the driver for
his card simply doesn't allow more than the resolution he's getting.
There should be info on this on the XFree86.org site though. Riyaz shoul
dcheck there first, and if there's no such limitation with the driver
for his card, he should come back here, and post his XF86Config file, if
he wants more help.
If you want help on your XF86Config file, you could post it too
ofcourse, but I don't need it for my own use (Which you probably
thought), my setup works fine (after some manual adjusting of this file)
Eric
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: video card problems
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 10:56:26 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
bullwinkle wrote:
>
> Riyaz Mansoor wrote:
> >
> >
> > > I have a Diamond Speedstar A50 (SiS 6326, 8 meg, AGP) working with
> Rh6.1.
> > > I added options "no_accel" and "no_bitblt" to /etc/X11/XFConfig in the
> > > "Device' section. Different cards with the SiS 6326 may need different
> > > options. See http://www.xfree86.org/3.3.6/SiS.html for more options.
> >
> > could u tell me what version of XFree86 u have?
> >
> > since u didn't say u get better resolution than 480x640, do u get
> anything
> > better than that?
> >
> > and how do i know which server the XFConfig file is using? the version of
> > XFree86, v4.0.1, uses the "sis" server but it just would not go over 256
> > colors or 480x640 res.
> >
> > thanx.
> >
> > riyaz
> >
> >
>
> I am using XFree86 3.3.5, resolution is 800x600, server is SVGA.
> I can't find where X chooses the server when it starts. I will
> get back to you if i do find it.
It chooses the server where /etc/X points to (this is a symlink to the
actual server)
Eric
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From: "w.m.boeke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Get rid of all those .twm files
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 08:57:47 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thomas Zeeman wrote:
> > I was thinking about some intelligent clean-up utility. You are not
> > going to tell me that I will have to live with all those files
> > cluttering my hard disk, don't you? I feel like drowning ...
>
> .twm*, like in the configfiles for the Tabbed WindowManager...
> Sounds like your either really using this wm because you've never cared
> for anything else besides the default wm for X-windows or you've got TWM
> still mentioned in some of your X-windows configfiles used when starting
> that.
Maybe you cannot imagine, but I really *love* the TWM window manager.
In my job I have to work with Solaris, and at home I want "something
completely different".
But who on earth knows the golden tip to clean up the .twmxxx files?
If I remove them manually, the total screen configuration gets lost!
Wouter
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