Linux-Setup Digest #3, Volume #21 Fri, 6 Apr 01 23:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux on Intel Or Celeron? what is the best choice? (andi)
Re: How to install 3 OSes? ("" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
Re: LFS (Linux From Scratch) ("" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
[Help:] Kernel Upgrade ("J. Liu")
Re: chmod (Michael Heiming)
Re: Help with Dual Boot Win98 and Mandrake 8.0b3 on A7V (mookie)
Re: chmod (H.Bruijn)
How to change Display configuration for X? (Afonso Sam)
Re: help with tomsrtbt ("Duane Healing")
Re: lpd problem ("Ted Agram")
high-volume sendmail replacement? (Rithban)
BIND insecure? replacement? (Rithban)
Re: Where is smbpasswd? ("Hiawatha Bray")
migrating existing system to another disk (Travis Hein)
Re: ICQ in Linux ("Garfield")
Lilo probelm ("Sebastien Askenazy")
Linux boot disk? (pekke)
Re: K7V133A & RH7.0 (Alan P. Kennedy, Sr)
RH7.0 on A7M266, worth it? ("Jeffrey Yu")
Hangs During Boot ("Richard A. Bilonick")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (andi)
Crossposted-To: be.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux on Intel Or Celeron? what is the best choice?
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 20:39:26 GMT
I run it on a celeron at home, works fine for me.....
On Thu, 05 Apr 2001 21:47:37 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Med HAM) wrote:
>Hi folks,
>My Company are willing to buy some machines to install Linux on
>them. My question is which machine is best for Linux to run on :
>Intel or Celeron? And if possible , can you tell me why? (ie: the
>adventages and drawbacks of each type of processor )
>As always any help could be so appreciated.
>Med HAM -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
____________________________________
"A Single Open Mind,
can open any door"
Sonia Rutstein
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From: "<toor>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to install 3 OSes?
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:55:44 -0400
Actually, Lilo should handle it very well! I would go for LILO.
machinm wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Horward wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I have a 20G harddisk drive, which has win98 and win2000 professional
>> installed. Now I want to use 10G disk space to install Red Hat Linux, but
>> for some reasons, I can not give up the win98 and win2000 combination. So
>> far, how can I configure in order to archive 3 OS coexists in the same
>> system? Besides, I would like to know does Linux support 20G harddisk
drive,
>> as I've encountered some problems during installation.
>>
>> Thanks & Regards.
>> Ho.
>
>Try partion magic, has the tools for Boot magic included.
>
>LILO may also do it, but not sure how it handles multiple boots.
>
>Basicly. its very easy, just install Partion magic, then set-up boot
>magic wizard(win 98), then create your paritions for the linux install,
>you need two, one is your linux swap file, the other is gona be your
>root, you can even create another one for your /opt or /usr partions. PM
>can even format the partions for Linux.
>10gigs should be fine. if you do a full install of all the software
>bundled in with red-hat, it will eat-up like 5 gigs.
>The only thing to consider is your hardware video card supported by your
>linux distrbution or will you need to get Xfree86 update.
>Also, do you have cable or adsl, fixed IP or dynamic.
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From: "<toor>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LFS (Linux From Scratch)
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:59:23 -0400
Well...I have experience in Linux for 2 years now. I am tired of Redhat 5.1
/ 6.1 / 6.2/ and 7.0. I wanted to start a new project! I guess I will
configure Debian. Hopefully, the Debian I got (6 cd set from Cheapbytes.com)
will have the tar files so I can use it for LFS.
mib wrote in message ...
> I am thinking of making my own linux system, is it worth the trouble. I
> checked out the documents from http://www.linuxfromscratch.com/
>
> Thanks
In my opinion LFS is a great way fo gaining experience in setting up
a Linux system. If you read the book you will know which software is needed
for a certain purpose and what it depends upon.
If you write your own bootscripts you are really in complete control of
your system.
It is also a nice way to get into scripting, since it is not that
interesting to just copy the instructions of the book to the command line.
With an LFS based system there no need anymore to complain about any
distribution. Anything that does not work is your own fault ;-)
The LFS system is just a starting point. The concept is extremely
extensible.
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From: "J. Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Help:] Kernel Upgrade
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 17:11:47 -0400
Hi,
I am trying to upgrade Kernel 2.2.14 to 2.2.18. I compiled the source
code of 2.2.18
and copied them to /boot.
When I reboot the system, it failed. The error message is "Kernel panic:
No init found".
I heard I need to upgrade the whole system.
Advice needed to help me upgrade the kernel.
Jun
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Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 23:16:28 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: chmod
"H.Bruijn" wrote:
>
> On Fri, 6 Apr 2001 14:53:26 +0200, Mikkel Jakobsen allegedly wrote:
> >Hello ...
> >
> >I have put a new hdd into my linux box, it has fat 32 , with a lot of
> >windows stuff on it. now i wont to "chmod" of one of the directoryes,
> >so that i can read and write to it, with Samba 2.0.7.
> >but how do i chmod on a fat 32 hdd ?
>
> Remember that windows filesystems fat32/vfatetc don't have native owners
> and permissions so that trying to change them, whith chmod, or using
> chown is impossible.
>
> They are set in the mount options in /etc/fstab. See "man mount" and
> "man fstab" for more info, especially in the FAT and VFAT sections.
> And the permissions are set for aech and every file on the partition.
>
> My suggestion would thus be to make the windows partition completely
> owned by an user, by adding the options uid=mikkel,guid=mikkel where
> you substitute mikkel with the correct (g)uid. You can find those with
> the "id" command, when logged in as mikkel, or by reading the
> /etc/groups and /etc/passwd files.
> The default permissions are set with umask variable, umask=002 is pretty
> standard.
>
> The result would be something like:
>
> /dev/hda5 /mnt/win vfat user,uid=1001,guid=501,exec,umask=002 0 0
>
> The mount option "user" means the partition isn't mounted at boot, but
> can be mounted by any user as needed. Other would be to use the option
> "auto" the partition is then mounted at boot.
>
> The "umask" works like this. By default files are created with
> permissions set as " 666 - umask" and directories will have permissions
> " 777 - umask" so an umask value of 023 will set the permissions of all
> files you create by default to 643 = "-rw-r---wx"
You can't set any file to be per default executable with umask, there is no way.
Michael Heiming
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From: mookie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help with Dual Boot Win98 and Mandrake 8.0b3 on A7V
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 23:41:37 +0200
In article <9ak9mm$dmp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> > I've been fighting the whole Promise controller bit on the A7V for the
> > longest time and when Mandrake 8.0b3 was released, I'd hoped it would
> > solve everything.
> >
> > The install program hung at the end (after the diaglog box that says it
> > would reboot into Mandrake) and when I reset the computer, all I got was
> > the "LI" error on boot.
>
> that's a fairly common problem.
> The files required to boot couldn't be found.
>
> booting linux from floppy does succeed I presume?
>
> how did you partition your HDD?
>
> could you show:
> `/sbin/fdisk -l /dev/hd[a-z]`
> `cat /etc/lilo.conf`
>
> Eric
>
>
>
I tried reinstalling again (3 times tonight), oddly enough it was on the
third try that the installation even bothered to create my bootdisk
(despite requesting on all occasions). However, it still hung right at
the end and when I rebooted the "LI" black screen of death was there
again.
Thanks again
Shao-En
Here's the output from those commands.
/sbin/fdisk -l /dev/hd[a-z]
Disk /dev/hdc doesn't contain a valid partition table
Disk /dev/hde: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 3737 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hde1 * 1 637 5116671 b Win95 FAT32
/dev/hde2 638 3736 24892717+ f Win95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/hde5 638 2535 15245653+ c Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/hde6 2536 3736 9647001 c Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
Disk /dev/hdg: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 3737 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hdg1 * 1 3737 30017421 85 Linux extended
/dev/hdg5 1 62 497952 83 Linux
/dev/hdg6 63 105 345366 82 Linux swap
/dev/hdg7 106 487 3068383+ 83 Linux
/dev/hdg8 488 1933 11614963+ 83 Linux
/dev/hdg9 1934 3737 14490598+ 83 Linux
cat /etc/lilo.conf
boot=/dev/hde
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
vga=normal
default=linux
keytable=/boot/us.klt
lba32
prompt
timeout=50
message=/boot/message-graphic
menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux
root=/dev/hdg5
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=failsafe
root=/dev/hdg5
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append=" failsafe"
read-only
other=/dev/hde1
label=windows
table=/dev/hde
other=/dev/fd0
label=floppy
unsafe
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Subject: Re: chmod
Date: 6 Apr 2001 21:55:47 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 06 Apr 2001 23:16:28 +0200, Michael Heiming allegedly wrote:
>> The "umask" works like this. By default files are created with
>> permissions set as " 666 - umask" and directories will have permissions
>> " 777 - umask" so an umask value of 023 will set the permissions of all
>> files you create by default to 643 = "-rw-r---wx"
>
>You can't set any file to be per default executable with umask, there is no way.
Not on the normal situation, where the umask is your shell variable, and
used to set the default permissions of the files you newly create.
But it can in the case where the umask is usedas a mount option or an
option in the/etc/fstab file to set the permissions on vfat partitions.
--
If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
========================================================================
Herman Bruijn website: http://hermanbruijn.com
The Netherlands
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Afonso Sam)
Subject: How to change Display configuration for X?
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 18:32:55 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My TNT2 display adapter on my linux box(RH7) dead, I replaced it with
spare Matrox G200. That is ok to start up the linux box. but fail to
start up the X. I did tried to reconfigure the X display with
Xconfigurator. but it prompted that there was no module for the
detected MGA G200.
What can I do to reactive the X?
Afonso Sam
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From: "Duane Healing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help with tomsrtbt
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 15:22:05 -0700
If you need to use the nic and feel up to a little hacking, try removing
the driver it hangs on. Instructions on how to unpack, modify, and repack
the image are on Tom's webpage in the FAQ.
--
-Duane
-DNAware SoftLabs
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Robert Davis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a older computer at home and it doesnt work with tomsrtbt. It
> boots to the point where it is testing the nic card and then locks up. I
> believe it says something like 3c574 ... donald becker .... I have an
> old nic card. ne2000 compatible, isa, not pnp. How do I turn off the nic
> card detection? How do I detect it correctly?
> Where is the correct place to post questions like this? I tried toms
> mailing list and it appears to be inactive now because tom lost his dsl
> connection.
>
>
> thanks
> bob
>
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From: "Ted Agram" <*tedius*@*gmx.ch*>
Subject: Re: lpd problem
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 00:37:45 -0100
Reply-To: *tedius*@*gmx.ch*
you can`t use lp0 for two printers (that`s why you have lp0, lp1....)
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Hilde Vernieuwe"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> Recently I started using Mandrake 7.2. At work, there are two printers:
> one oki attached to a linux-server and a HP laserjet printer. For those
> printers we have some configuration files and a filter. When I want to
> connect one printer everything is allright, but when I want to connect
> the second printer (placing the configuration files and the filter in
> the /var/spool/lpd/lp0 directory) a second lpd starts so printing
> becomes impossible. I already tried to kill the lpd and restart one,
> but everytime I want to print a file, the second lpd starts up. Does
> someone know what's the problem here? Thank you very much
> Hilde Vernieuwe
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From: Rithban <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: high-volume sendmail replacement?
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 16:58:19 -0600
postfix? qmail?
Any better than the other for large volumes of mail?
--
If it's a hobby for me and a job for you, why are you doing such a
shoddy job of it?
- Linus Torvalds
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From: Rithban <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: BIND insecure? replacement?
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 16:59:26 -0600
Is BIND insecurity overblown?
If not, what alternatives are there?
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From: "Hiawatha Bray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,linux.samba
Subject: Re: Where is smbpasswd?
Date: 06 Apr 2001 22:59:55 GMT
I have both these packages installed...is there some other that I've missed?
"Craig Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Hiawatha Bray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I need it to set up encrypted passwords in Samba, but when I installed
RH 7,
> > smbpaswd did NOT get installed, and I have no idea where it is. Help!
>
> $ rpm -qf /usr/bin/smbpasswd
> samba-common-2.0.7-31
> samba-2.0.7-31
>
> --
> It won't be long before the CPU is a card in a slot on your ATX videoboard
> Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: Travis Hein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: migrating existing system to another disk
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:38:07 -0500
I have my root partition / on /dev/sda1
my /usr on /dev/sda6
I wish to move both the root / and /usr to a single partition /dev/sdb1,
in effect to replace and remove /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda6.
This is to preserve my existing system, and be able to boot it, via boot
disk, while I wipe and reconstruct /dev/sda
How do I do this. (clone partitions)
Now I performed the following operations
-fdisk on /dev/sdb1
-mk32fs on /dev/sdb1
- mount the new system /dev/sdb1 as /disk2
-from unix console, tediously copied every directory to its proper place on
the new disk, using cp -a (to preserve links, recursively copy
directorys, special device files.
- edited the /etc/fstab on the new partition.
- created a boot disk, to temporarly boot /dev/sdb1 as root /
Now, the system boots up ok, except for the following problems
- can not start x font server, as claims can not find the config file,
where as when I look at the directory it sais can not find the file, the
file is there
- all users, except root can not log in, flashes too quickly to let me see
the message
any tips or pointers or advice or instructions would be greatly appreciated,
Travis
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From: "Garfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ICQ in Linux
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 02:14:41 -0700
Thanks!^)^
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From: "Sebastien Askenazy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Lilo probelm
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 00:43:58 GMT
I am unable to boot linux using Lilo. I have a 30 gig hard drive and the
/boot partition starts at around the 15th gig, but I thought this limitation
was corrected. I installed the very very latest version of Linux and when I
try to run it it still says its beyond the cylinder range.
Is anyone experiencing this with the latest version, or can someone give me
suggestions?
Thanks for your help.
-Sebastien
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (pekke)
Subject: Linux boot disk?
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 01:07:03 GMT
I have Red Hat 6.2 and tried different Linux distrubitions, but i am
still wondering how to create a boot disk from inside the existing
linuxconfiguration i have made working?
pekke
Pekke
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Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.hardware.amd.thunderbird,comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: K7V133A & RH7.0
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan P. Kennedy, Sr)
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 01:51:55 GMT
>>>>> "Tom" == Tom Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Tom> Konstantinos Agouros wrote:
>> In <2Qsy6.118698$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Jeffrey Yu"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Hi, just want to find out if anyone
>> has installed RH7.0 on an ASUS K7V133A >mboard, and would like to
>> know of your opinion of such a combination. >Thanks in advance.
>> Yes, it works. If You want ATA100, You will need to build Your own
>> kernel.
Tom> I thought that Promise chip was a RAID controller.
The promise controller does raid or works as a standard ide
controller, but only use one interrupt. Works well but you have to
make a custom kernel for kernels less than 2.4.x.
Tom> I just connected my drives to the IDE controller, used "hdparm
Tom> -d 1 /dev/hda" and got 32 MByte/sec (hdparm -Tt /dev/hda). This
Tom> is an ATA-100 7200 RPM drive; I also got a significant increase
Tom> in performance and "feel". Will the Promise interface do
Tom> significantly better than that? Is it worth the hassle?
No difference unless you use the raid option. The raid option is setup
with a jumper on the motherboard. See your manual.
Later,
Alan
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From: "Jeffrey Yu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.hardware.amd.thunderbird,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: RH7.0 on A7M266, worth it?
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 02:02:49 GMT
Yes, the question is whether it is worth to have RH7.0 installed on a
A7M266 motherboard, the CPU in mind is the 1.33G, and 512MB RAM.
The alternative is the A7V133A, any comment at all? TIA.
J.
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From: "Richard A. Bilonick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Hangs During Boot
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 02:35:19 GMT
I used sndconf on RH 7.0. This crashed the system and I had to reboot.
During the boot up process it corrects the hard drive for errors, then
hangs trying to load the sound card driver. It just sits there and I
don't think it will ever continue. I can't do an upgrade because I have
reset because it won't boot.
Is there ANY way around this without reinstalling (and compiling new
network drivers, etc.)?
Any information will be appreciated.
Rick Bilonick
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