Linux-Setup Digest #5, Volume #20                 Thu, 9 Nov 00 11:13:11 EST

Contents:
  Re: X-windows install problem (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=E8re=5FOrph=E9e?=)
  Re: redhat 7.1 or higher ("John Horne")
  Re: Memory reported wrong by Linux
  Re: video card problems ("Riyaz Mansoor")
  Re: Memory reported wrong by Linux ("ne...")
  Re: mail server ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: RH7 parition sizes ("Arun Shastry")
  Re: How to copy/backup a machine? (cfish)
  Re: Help! set X server Color Depth (smilemonkey)
  Re: RH7 parition sizes (Eric)
  Re: video card problems (Eric)
  Rh7 on Promise Ultra/66 ("Karan Aggarwal")
  Warning: local not supported by C library, local unchanged
  Re: Linux hangs after writing to the /dev/st0 port ?? ("Ed Bras")

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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=E8re=5FOrph=E9e?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: X-windows install problem
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 15:24:18 +0100

I now have 640x480 with mach64 but I can't seem to be able to switch betw=
een
resolutions with ctr alt + -...

Stephen Franklin wrote:

> Xconfigurator will ask for your video card, if you go to the bottom of =
the list you
> can select Unknown card (I think that is what it says) the program will=
 then ask
> for the server to use The servers all start with XF86_. Try the XF86_VG=
A or
> XF86_SVGA as a starting point. Pick 640X480 8bit resolution to keep thi=
ngs simple.
> It's called a server because it is the server of the graphics to your t=
erminal.
>
> Fr=E8re Orph=E9e wrote:
>
> > Fr=E8re Orph=E9e wrote:
> >
> > > How do you choose the server you will use
> > > what is a "server", why is called like that??
> >
> > I got my graphics but anybody knows what means server in this context=
?
> > (I'm french you see...)
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Rich Andrews wrote:
> > >
> > > > Paul,
> > > >
> > > > Did you try the generic vga X server?  Try that and then run Xcon=
figurator.
> > > > rich
> > > >
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'm installing RH6.1 on an old Intergraph TD-4 workstation.
> > > > > It's a P5-100 with 128MB RAM and 4GB SCSI disk.
> > > > >
> > > > > Everything works _except_ X-windows.
> > > > >
> > > > > Every time I try to either probe or start X, the system locks u=
p solid
> > > > > and needs a cold boot.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've tried 5 different graphics cards using chipsets from Matro=
x, Orchid,
> > > > > Tseng, and S3 with the same results every time.  Using a differ=
ent PCI
> > > > > slot doesn't eliminate the lockups either.
> > > > >
> > > > > I now believe it must be a setting in CMOS that is causing the =
lockup,
> > > > > but I have no idea what to look for or to change.  I don't like=
 making
> > > > > random changes, or trial-and-error troubleshooting.
> > > > >
> > > > >         Any ideas or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > (Win95 and NT4 install and run fine so I KNOW the hardware is o=
kay.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Paul
> > >
> > > --
> > > Lex legis
> > > Organisation pour un monde plus optionnel
> > >
> > > En ce moment
> > > Orph=E9e - Johanne
> > > http://www.491.org/projets/mmm/rphee-jo
> >
> > --
> > Lex legis
> > Organisation pour un monde plus optionnel
> >
> > En ce moment
> > Orph=E9e - Johanne
> > http://www.491.org/projets/mmm/rphee-jo

--
Lex legis
Organisation pour un monde plus optionnel

En ce moment
Orph=E9e - Johanne
http://www.491.org/projets/mmm/rphee-jo



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From: "John Horne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: redhat 7.1 or higher
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 10:02:58 +0000

In article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Nov 8, 2000 at 04:13, Timothy Murphy eloquently wrote:
>>As a matter of interest, is kgcc the same as egcs ? If so, why invent a
>>new name (which seems specific to RedHat)?
> The original poster has RH7. This comes with gcc-2.96 and kgcc which is
> gcc-2.95 I believe. U'll have to ask RH why the new name.
> 
Because - I gather - RH7 comes with a development version of gcc (2.96)
which won't compile the kernel. They had to supply something which
*would* coompile the kernel so they supplied gcc (2.95) - a stable
version, but called it 'kgcc'. I imagine at a later release gcc will be
sorted (or the linux kernel) and we'll be back to one gcc version - no
kgcc.

John.
========================================================================
John Horne, University of Plymouth, UK           Tel: +44 (0)1752 233914
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP key available from public key servers

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Memory reported wrong by Linux
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 14:30:02 -0000


For some reason, RedHat w/ the Athlon chips defaults to 64Mb of RAM, 
regardless of what you have installed. There are two fixes:

At the linux boot prompt "boot: ", type in the following:

linux mem=512M

This is assuming you have 512 Mb of RAM installed. Type in the actual 
amount that is installed in your computer. You can also change the default 
parameter by going into the /etc/lilo.conf file and creating an "append" 
line with "append = mem=512M" (see lilo documentation for exact syntax as 
I'm doing this from memory) then rerun lilo to update the boot parameters. 
Try doing the manual boot-up option first and use the "linuxconf" utility 
to check if the memory was actually registered. For some reason, some of 
the other tools like xosview do not always register the real memory, but 
linuxconf seems to work fine for determining how much memory linux is 
actually using.

Hope this helps.



Vivek Gupta wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> I am using 
> * Redhat 6.2
> * Kernel 2.2.17
> * AMD Athlon
> * MS-6195 Motherboard.
> * Sis6326 AGP card
> * Kingston 128MB PC133Mhz RAM
> 
> When I boot my system. The BIOS shows the correct memory. When I see
> the memory using top or cat /proc/meminfo then, it shows only 64 MB RAM.
> I don't know why it shows so less memory....
> 
> Please help,
> 
> Vivek
> 
> 


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From: "Riyaz Mansoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: video card problems
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 01:05:18 +1000


hi eric

> What I'd change right away if I were you is the virtual screen, just
> leave it out.
> It won't help with your actual problem though.

i did that too. it doesn't matter either way so i left it.

> Where are the frequency ranges of your monitor? (Are they not required
> by 4.x ?)
> What range is used?
> Could it be so that X now assumes a very low-end monitor, and that is
> forcing you to use low resolutions only?

off the top of my head i don't remember, but in the config file it has
identified the correct monitor which is a svga monitor. i don't know during
'startx' it throws away this monitor and puts another one in. is there
anyway to check this? and how do i change this if i have to, say a genric
svga?

also how do i catch the result of a 'startx --probeonly' ? ie it scrolls off
the screen. i tried writing to a file but wont work. i'm thinking that, that
output is the standard.err stream. is there a way to catch that?

riyaz.



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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
From: "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Memory reported wrong by Linux
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 15:23:41 GMT

On Nov 9, 2000 at 14:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] eloquently wrote:

>
>For some reason, RedHat w/ the Athlon chips defaults to 64Mb of RAM,
>regardless of what you have installed. There are two fixes:
Seriously. Take a look below:

$ cat /etc/redhat-release
Red Hat Linux release 6.2 (Zoot)

$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor       : 0
vendor_id       : AuthenticAMD
cpu family      : 6
model           : 4
model name      : AMD Athlon(tm) Processor
stepping        : 2
cpu MHz         : 801.850
cache size      : 256 KB
fdiv_bug        : no
hlt_bug         : no
sep_bug         : no
f00f_bug        : no
coma_bug        : no
fpu             : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level     : 1
wp              : yes
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr 6 mce cx8 sep mtrr pge 14
cmov pat 17 psn mmxext mmx fxsr 3dnowext 3dnow
bogomips        : 1599.08

$ cat /etc/lilo.conf
boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
vga=5
prompt
timeout=30
linear
default=linux

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.17
        label=linux
        append="video=matrox:vesa:440"
        root=/dev/hdb7
        read-only

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16-3
        label=olde
#       append="video=matrox:vesa:440"
        root=/dev/hdb7
        read-only

$ free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers
cached
Mem:        192888     190520       2368      63268      73076
61024
-/+ buffers/cache:      56420     136468
Swap:       265032     104304     160728

As you can see, no fancy footwork needed. I do not boot
passing lilo any parameters at the boot prompt. Memory
detection is a function of your BIOS, not linux. If the
call your bios can use DO NOT report the correct amount
of ram you have, please blame your bios and not RedHat.
They have been catching too much flack lately, lets
give them a break. Your solutions should work. I'm not
sure whether the append statement takes spaces tho. And
the third option is t upgrade your bios.

>
>At the linux boot prompt "boot: ", type in the following:
>
>linux mem=512M
>
>This is assuming you have 512 Mb of RAM installed. Type in the actual
>amount that is installed in your computer. You can also change the default
>parameter by going into the /etc/lilo.conf file and creating an "append"
>line with "append = mem=512M" (see lilo documentation for exact syntax as
[...]

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: mail server
Date: 9 Nov 2000 15:16:34 GMT

In comp.os.linux.admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: In article <8ue63j$43r$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
:   "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> In comp.os.linux.admin findo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> : I may ask about that I can send a mail out but the email address
:> that I send
:> : is "root [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
:> : Then how can I change it to " [EMAIL PROTECTED] "?
:>
:> 1) login as abc, not root
:>
:> 2) change your machines name to ishop.com
:> or
:> 3) edit sendmail.cf so that your machine masquerades as ishop.conf
:>    on outgoing mail, and, presumably, so that it accepts incoming
:>    mail for ishop.conf too.

: But in RH6.2 the entry in inetd.conf is pop-3, there is also pop-2

So what? None of that has anything to do with configuring a mail
server, except in the loosest sense.  You're not running sendmail out
of inetd! That's for a pop server .. something that allows access to
the incoming mail spool to interested clients. If you're interested in
pop, why not also in imap (or imap over ssl, which would be the way to
go)?

Peter

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From: "Arun Shastry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH7 parition sizes
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 10:30:16 -0500

Try

/boot     16MB
Swap    <size of your physical memory>
/             ~1GB depending on how many packages you want to install (you
might want to install everything for 1.7GB, it                     gives you
a lot to play with)
/stuff        however much you want for /home, /opt, /tmp, /var, etc.

Arun

"Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Marcus Dempsey wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have just started to play around with RH7 and I have a secondary 6GB
hard
> > disk solely for linux, because I'm running Windows 2000 on my primary
> > harddisk I have to manually partition the harddisk during the setup of
> > linux.
> >
> > My question is, what are the best recommended sizes for the partitions
that
> > you need, based on a 6GB hard disk.  I dont want to be overallocating
disk
> > space on nonessential partitions, and want all the free space posible.
> >
> > TIA Marcus
>
> I personally like this scheme :
>
> /boot 16M (1 cylinder)
> /     rest
>
> It's the easiest if you don't know where most disc space will be used.
> Later on you can use the du command to see where most space is used in
> your situation, so that if you ever reinstall, you can choose another
> partition scheme (/usr on a separate partition, perhaps /home too)
>
> There's one thing though, if you have the first disc NTFS formatted,
> it's convienient to make a data_exchange/storage partition (approx. 2 G
> will do just fine) that both OS's can use (so make it FAT(16/32)
> formatted)
> Then your partition-scheme would be like this:
>
> /boot     16M
> /storage  2 G
> /rest     rest
>
> Eric



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From: cfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to copy/backup a machine?
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 15:38:13 GMT

On Thu, 09 Nov 2000 13:39:17 GMT, Jean-Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Thanks for all the info! I have a few more questions ...
>
>Where can I find the admin guide you "pointed to" earlier? I can't seem
>to find where you say the location of the document.

uhm... apparently I'm too senile.. that matt welsh's installation and
configuration guide is obsolete. there are a ton of docs in
linuxdoc.org but i don't know which one is for what... sorry my fault.
I'd bet the administrator guide will tell you lots about backup and
restore.

>
>Also I guess my question is mis-stated. I need to make a copy of the one
>machine not for backup/recovery purposes but because the machine I have
>is working fine and I want another one.

>
>It's basically a file server. Someone set it up for me with a bunch of
>stuff (I have no idea exactly what but at least Samba and probably
>apache). It also has some config files installed that I know nothing
>about (ip addresses, proxie addresses, etc ...). It doing it's job fine
>and I want to have the same set-up at another location.
>
>I need to have the second machine set-up exactly like the first one, but
>since I don't know what was set up on the first one (and even if I knew
>I'm not adept enought at installing things on Linux) I thought it would
>be much simpler if there was a simple way of "replicating" the OS as it
>is setup now.
>
>But from what you say the simplest way is:
>
>- use dd to copy all partitions
>- re-write the boot sector of the new machine
>- re-run Xconfig

um. I believe that to copy using dd, you need to have the partition
EXACTLY the same. if this works, great. if it doesnt. tar gzip. now
using tar and gzip will allow you to use different sized partitions,
however, you need to somehow boot off something else, (i'd use a live
CD) and then untar

it'd be cool if you can pipe the tar output over... to avoid using
another medium for the tar file...  this part I am not familiar with.
someone else please comment.




>
>Another thing is that this machine is basically running as a file server
>so X isn't needed at all.
>
>Any other hints/pointers are welcomed!
>
>Thanks for the help so far!
>
>Jc



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From: smilemonkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help! set X server Color Depth
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 15:31:21 GMT

Hi!
   Thank you for all your input.  I found a way to do it in run level 5,
Using Xsetup.  I am not sure it is good for all the linux distributions.
However, it work for Mandrake 7.0

Sam



In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Daryl Fonseca-Holt wrote:
> >
> > If your are using startx to start X, then leave X and enter:
> >
> >         startx -- -depth 8
> >
> > If you don't start X yourself, ie; you use runlevel 5 with X logins,
you'll
> > have to wait for help from someone else, I don't know how to do it.
> >
>
> If that's the case, as root run `init 3` and then `startx -- -depth 8`
>
> Eric
>


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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH7 parition sizes
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 16:44:01 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

CDM wrote:
> 
> So, you work without swap?
> 

No I forgot :-)

But all I wanted to point out was that all kind off different partitions
for /usr /usr/local /home /tmp /var and all that aren't really necessary
for a "normal" system

Eric

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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: video card problems
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 16:46:14 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Riyaz Mansoor wrote:
> 
> hi eric
> 
> > What I'd change right away if I were you is the virtual screen, just
> > leave it out.
> > It won't help with your actual problem though.
> 
> i did that too. it doesn't matter either way so i left it.
> 
> > Where are the frequency ranges of your monitor? (Are they not required
> > by 4.x ?)
> > What range is used?
> > Could it be so that X now assumes a very low-end monitor, and that is
> > forcing you to use low resolutions only?
> 
> off the top of my head i don't remember, but in the config file it has
> identified the correct monitor which is a svga monitor. i don't know during
> 'startx' it throws away this monitor and puts another one in. is there
> anyway to check this? and how do i change this if i have to, say a genric
> svga?
> 
> also how do i catch the result of a 'startx --probeonly' ? ie it scrolls off
> the screen. i tried writing to a file but wont work. i'm thinking that, that
> output is the standard.err stream. is there a way to catch that?
> 
> riyaz.

yes you can catch this log by:

`startx --probeonly 2> X_startup_messages`

Eric

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From: "Karan Aggarwal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Rh7 on Promise Ultra/66
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 10:37:59 -0500

I was trying to install RedHat 7.0 onto my sole HDD connected to a Ultra 66
controller card. But was not able to do so. I tried all the different
methods described i the various help files, but to no use. I have checked
the RH 7 webiste and they apparently have something written about it in the
documentation that we are supposed to be able to access after
*installation*. Could someone please help me. I want to get rid of Windows
once and for all.

Karan



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Warning: local not supported by C library, local unchanged
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 15:50:37 GMT

I get that error when I use the acroread plug-in for netscape.  What do
I have to do to eliminate that error?

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From: "Ed Bras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux hangs after writing to the /dev/st0 port ??
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 16:59:43 +0100


"Harald Wagener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Ed Bras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Hellu,
> >
> > Linux hangs when I write something to the /dev/st0 port.
> > How can I debug/solve this ??
> >
> > What I do/did ?
> >
> > I type for example: tar -cvf /dev/st0 <some file>
> > and it hangs, I really have to reset it by reset the computer itself. It
> > doesn't listen to any keyboard command anymore.
> > Since when this happens ?
>
>
> The -f switch is only used when making tar files. You should omit it
> when writing directly to a tape drive.
>
> HTH,
>         H.
>
>
> --
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>                                                  the linux architects
> tel: +49.30.308806-0  fax: -77              http://www.innominate.com


Harald,

I am a bit confused, about how to make a backup with tar after your comment.
After your comment I removed the -f switch, however I am still not able to
make a backup, even not after trying somethings and using the man page.
What I want ? Is making a backup to tape and putting the stdout info in a
file for logging.
I tried:
tar -cv /dev/st0  /  --exclude  /proc >> logfile

I then see the whole conten of / comming by, which writes in the logfile !!
I don't understand why ?
Are you sure I dont' need to use the switch -f ? Still, the computer hangs
when I do, something weird.

Please, some advice ?

Ed Bras



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