Linux-Setup Digest #10, Volume #20               Fri, 10 Nov 00 11:13:05 EST

Contents:
  ADSL and RedHat ("Louis")
  Re: RH 7.0/Win2K Dual Boot Trouble (Doug Pippel)
  Mandrake 7.2 upgrade woes (Simon Brooke)
  Re: Format my disk (Eric)
  Re: Linux sees only 896MB of my 1024 MB RAM (Paul Tiseo)
  Re: RH 7.0/Win2K Dual Boot Trouble (Eric)
  Re: ADSL and RedHat (Hal Burgiss)
  Re: Help! Linux router between two NT networks. (Mike Raeder)
  Re: lilo not automatically start (Eric)
  Re: Format my disk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?=)
  Re: Help! Linux router between two NT networks. (Vulcan)
  Re: Help: win98/linux dual boot with 2 HDs (Eric)
  Sound Drivers.... help !!! (HERENT Gael)
  Switch Desktops (bg)
  Re: ADSL and RedHat ("Louis")
  Re: Was: can't ... REMOUNT; now: making boot ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Problem with USB Webcam on Suse Linux V7.0 (Juergen Pfeiffer)
  Re: Was: can't ... REMOUNT; now: making boot ("Peter T. Breuer")
  good safe thunderbird/motherboard combo? (John Jensen)

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Louis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ADSL and RedHat
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:19:49 +0200

Hi,

Just wonder if redhat 7.0 support ADSL?
how to configer 3com fast.. in Linux ?

Thanks



------------------------------

From: Doug Pippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH 7.0/Win2K Dual Boot Trouble
Date: 10 Nov 2000 14:43:02 GMT

Howdy folks - I'm trying to set up my dual boot Red Hat 7 and Windows
2000 system to start Linux from the hard drive using the Win2K boot
loader. I've stripped the boot sector from my Linux boot floppy (first
512K), saved it to the file bootsect.lnx, copied it to the root dir
of my C: drive and modified my C:\BOOT.INI file thusly:

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional" 
/fastdetect
C:\BOOTSECT.LNX="Red Hat Linux v7.0"

It's not working. When I select Linux nothing happens. I get a blank screen
with the cursor in the upper right-hand corner but the system does not
boot. I've also tried stripping the boot sector from my Linux /boot partition
on the hard disk with the same results - no boot. I can boot from my Linux
floppy just fine. Does anyone have any suggestions?

DP



------------------------------

Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Mandrake 7.2 upgrade woes
From: Simon Brooke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:31:15 GMT

Having been running KDE2 late betas on gododdin for some time, I
decided a couple of days ago to upgrade to KDE2 final. That went well,
except that (as under the betas) my sound didn't work, because it
seemed to expect XFree86 4 to be there; and as I'd been thinking of
upgrading to XFree86 4, I started pulling rpms down from the Mandrake
mirror on mirror.ac.uk and installing them. But the XFree86 4 stuff
was part of Mandrake 7.2, whereas gododdin was running Mandrake 7.0,
and I found I was pulling down more and more rpms and gradually
spiralling into a mess. 

Alright, I thought, this isn't the way to do it, so I went over to
those nice people at Linux Emporium
<URL:http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk> and bought a copy of Mandrake 7.2
Powerpack Deluxe. Those nice people at Linux Emporium being awfully
efficient, the package duly arrived this morning; so I backed up my
home directory and my CVS and started to play.

Started being the operative word.

Gododdin is a home brewed twin processor PII/300 on an ASUS P2B-DS
motherboard with onboard Adaptec 7890 SCSI; the SCSI bus has:

1 IBM 4Gb hard disk
2 IBM 8Gb hard disk
4 Tandberg cartridge tape drive
6 Sony CD rewriter

Gododdin has had Mandrake 6.1 and Mandrake 7.0 on (both from full
retail packs); both installed without trouble. It has no IDE
devices and has never had any other operating system.

Installing Mandrake 7.2, gets successfully through first stage install
and into the graphic installer. However, whatever 'update' choice is
made in 'select installation class' it then goes on to

'found Adaptec|AHA-2940U2/W 7890 scsi interfaces. Do you have another
one'

Answer 'no'

'DiskDrake failed to read correctly the partition table. Continue at
your own risk!'

Answer 'OK'

'An error occurred ask_from_list: empty list'

Answer  'OK'

infinite loop back to 'DiskDrake failed to read correctly...'

The tail of the ddebug.log at this point is

<blockquote>
* step `setupSCSI' finished
* starting step `doPartitionDisks'
* warning: bad magic number at /usr/bin/perl-install/partition_table_empty.pm line 31.
* found a dos partition table on /dev/sda at sector 0
* found a empty partition table on /dev/sdb at sector 0
* find_root_parts
* mounting sda1 on /tmp/inspect_tmp_dir as type ext2
* calling mount(/dev/sda1, /tmp/inspect_tmp_dir, ext2, 3236757505, )
* calling umount(/tmp/inspect_tmp_dir)
* mounting sda3 on /tmp/inspect_tmp_dir as type ext2
* calling mount(/dev/sda3, /tmp/inspect_tmp_dir, ext2, 3236757505, )
* calling umount(/tmp/inspect_tmp_dir)
* mounting sda4 on /tmp/inspect_tmp_dir as type ext2
* calling mount(/dev/sda4, /tmp/inspect_tmp_dir, ext2, 3236757505, )
* calling umount(/tmp/inspect_tmp_dir)
* warning: ask_from_list: empty list at /usr/bin/perl-install/interactive.pm line 114, 
<> line 6.
</blockquote>

Interestingly, if I choose 'install' rather than 'update', again I get
the 'DiskDrake failed to read correctly...' message, but on pressing
'OK' I get a dialogue with the message 'The DrakX partitioning wizard
found the following solutions' and the options

'Use free space'
'Use existing partition'
'Erase entire disk'
'Expert Mode'

If I choose 'Expert Mode' it shows me the correct partition layout of
disk sda, but fails to show the layout of sdb (showing it as
'empty'). If I use <alt><f2> to get to the root prompt and run 'fdisk
/dev/sdb' I see the correct layout.

*However*, and I suspect this is the difference that makes the
difference, when I run fdisk on /dev/sdb I get the awful warning:

<blockqoute>
The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 1115.
There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
and could in certain setups cause problems with:
1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., LILO)
2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs
   (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)
</blockquote>

So it looks as though the Mandrake installer is failing to recognise
the bigger disk because it has too many cylinders. Next problem, then:
/dev/sdb has 

Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdb1             5.2G  3.6G  1.3G  74% /home
/dev/sdb2             2.9G  2.4G  365M  87% /

Now a lot of that, of course, is junk and detritus, and I have backed
up most of /home; but sorting out precisely what is junk and detritus
will take a long time, so I'm unwilling to do anything which will
smash the format on dev sdb, and I don't have enough spare storage to
back it all up.

Of course I could clean up, do a hand install of XFree86 4.0 and hack
the config by hand. But the reason that I still run Mandrake rather
than Debian on my desktop is because I don't want to do that. I want
to be able to do an upgrade cleanly and have the thing just work
(which, ironically, of course, Debian would do). I don't want to have
to spend a day reading documentation just to set up my windowing
system. Alternatively I could go back to XFree 3.X and KDE 1.X, but I
*like* KDE 2...

Bleagh.

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

                        ;; I'd rather live in sybar-space

------------------------------

From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Format my disk
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:49:25 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

AlexThunder Festbaum wrote:
> 
> How i'm able to format my disk clearly. I thought of writing random numbers
> to it? Can someone help me?

create one big partition on it with the help of fdisk,
and then dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdb1 (change hdb1 to where-ever it is
in your system)

then you can use DOS's  FDISK.EXE \MBR  to rewrite the MBR too.

Eric

------------------------------

From: Paul Tiseo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux sees only 896MB of my 1024 MB RAM
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 09:42:28 -0500

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> During the boot process of kernel 2.2.16-22smp on 2x CPU machine with 
> 1024MB RAM I am getting:
> 
> kernel: Warning only 896MB will be used
> 
> Is there a limit as to how much memory can kernel utilize?

        An important question is what hardware are you using, like mobo, 
chipset, etc... 

(Any opinions expressed are stricly mine only and not my employer's)
====================================================================
Paul Tiseo, Intermediate Systems Programmer
Birdsall 3, Mayo Clinic Jacksonville
4500 San Pablo Rd, FL, 32224
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- (904) 953-8254

------------------------------

From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH 7.0/Win2K Dual Boot Trouble
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:50:22 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Doug Pippel wrote:
> 
> Howdy folks - I'm trying to set up my dual boot Red Hat 7 and Windows
> 2000 system to start Linux from the hard drive using the Win2K boot
> loader. I've stripped the boot sector from my Linux boot floppy (first
> 512K), saved it to the file bootsect.lnx, copied it to the root dir
> of my C: drive and modified my C:\BOOT.INI file thusly:
> 
> [boot loader]
> timeout=30
> default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
> [operating systems]
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional" 
>/fastdetect
> C:\BOOTSECT.LNX="Red Hat Linux v7.0"
> 
> It's not working. When I select Linux nothing happens. I get a blank screen
> with the cursor in the upper right-hand corner but the system does not
> boot. I've also tried stripping the boot sector from my Linux /boot partition
> on the hard disk with the same results - no boot. I can boot from my Linux
> floppy just fine. Does anyone have any suggestions?
> 
> DP

Yeah, use LILO instead. :-)

Eric

------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: ADSL and RedHat
Reply-To: Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:51:07 GMT

On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:19:49 +0200, Louis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Just wonder if redhat 7.0 support ADSL?

This is like asking if Linux supports telephones. The question is not
about the technology, but the means of accessing the technology. So the
question becomes what ADSL modems does Linux support. With few
exceptions, ethernet.

>how to configer 3com fast.. in Linux ?

More info ...

-- 
Hal B
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--

------------------------------

From: Mike Raeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help! Linux router between two NT networks.
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 23:59:59 -0500

UM wrote:

> Instead of buying a Cisco Router I decided to build a linux router/gateway
> to talk between these two networks. Its actually a laptop with two 3COM
> PCMCIA network cards running Mandrake 7.0.*

Check out http://www.freesco.org. 
 
> However, I want the computers to be visible in Network Neighborhood ... ie.
> the NT domain in 2.* should be visible in the 1.* window.

You're gonna have to run samba for that.

-- 
My Australian Shepherd is smarter than your honor student

------------------------------

From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lilo not automatically start
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:53:09 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

core wrote:
> 
> how to check lilo location?
> 
> "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ���g��l�� news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > core wrote:
> > >
> > > after i install rh7, the lilo won't boot up automatically. How can i
> make it
> > > boot automatically? Thank
> >
> > What goes wrong? Where is lilo? what did yo try?
> >
> > All boils down to this : give more info!
> >
> > Eric

The first line of the file /etc/lilo.conf contains the location where
LILO should be put.

To write LILO in the MBR this line should be `boot=/dev/hda` (without
the quotes)

Notice that there's no number after hda !

Then your run `/sbin/lilo -v`

And if all went well, you reboot and behold..... there's LILO

Eric

------------------------------

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Format my disk
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:57:08 +0100

On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, AlexThunder Festbaum wrote:

> How i'm able to format my disk clearly. I thought of writing random numbers
> to it? Can someone help me?

Delete all partitions with cfdisk/fdisk/partition magic/etc...

Rasmus B. Hansen


------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vulcan)
Subject: Re: Help! Linux router between two NT networks.
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:58:09 +0000 (UTC)

Thanks Mike ...

My previous exposure to Samba was when I set up a Linux box with Samba so 
that it could appear on the NT network neighborhood and allow Nt users to 
access it shares. It works fine (on another linux box we have).

In this particular router scenario ... I want the NT users in the 1.* 
domain to see the computers in the 2.* domain (I dont care about seeing the 
gateway box itself)

Thanks again.

I will check out freecso.org ... not sure if the laptop and PCMCIA cards 
will be a problem with other kernels (Mandrake 7.0.2 works flawlessly on my 
Fujitsu Lifebook laptop with 3COM PCMCIA cards).


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Raeder) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 

>UM wrote:
>
>> Instead of buying a Cisco Router I decided to build a linux
>> router/gateway to talk between these two networks. Its actually a
>> laptop with two 3COM PCMCIA network cards running Mandrake 7.0.*
>
>Check out http://www.freesco.org. 
> 
>> However, I want the computers to be visible in Network Neighborhood
>> ... ie. the NT domain in 2.* should be visible in the 1.* window.
>
>You're gonna have to run samba for that.
>


------------------------------

From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help: win98/linux dual boot with 2 HDs
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:58:43 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Faux_Pseudo wrote:
> 
> --(Once apon a time, in comp.os.linux.setup,)--
>                 --(Duncan Pryde said it like only they can.)--
> >
> >
> >Thanks.  Quick question though:  if I set the linux drive to master, and
> >therefore presumably the win98 drive to slave, will I need to set lilo to
> >remap the drives in bios in order for windows to boot?  If so, do you know
> >how to do that?
> >
> no you wont have to work the bios at all
> lilo on the master drive will just look to /dev/hdb for the boot record
> there and if windows is the only thing on it then it will boot straight to
> windows
> 
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.12-20
>         label=linux
>         initrd=/boot/initrd-2.2.12-20.img
>         read-only
>         root=/dev/hda1
>         vga=788
> other=/dev/hdb1
>         label=windows
>         table=/dev/hdb
> 
> and its just that easy

Error: not true.
The other part should be like this, or else windows will not boot:

 other=/dev/hdb1
         label=windows
         map-drive=0x80
         to=0x81
         map-drive=0x81
         to=0x80
         table=/dev/hdb
 
(Or look at svend-olaf's page)

Eric

------------------------------

From: HERENT Gael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Sound Drivers.... help !!!
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:53:14 +0100

Hi,
I would like to know if somebody have linux' drivers for the sound
chipset of
the i820 motherboard (AC97).
Thank you.


------------------------------

From: bg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Switch Desktops
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 08:51:39 -0500

How does one switch desktops in Mandrake 7.2? Used to be an app that did
it in previous releases but I can't find it now.
thanks,
bill g

------------------------------

From: "Louis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ADSL and RedHat
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 17:17:11 +0200

Sorry...

ADSL connection used by 3Com Fast Etherlink (3C515) ISA NIC, as a normal
network adapter.
Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:19:49 +0200, Louis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >Just wonder if redhat 7.0 support ADSL?
>
> This is like asking if Linux supports telephones. The question is not
> about the technology, but the means of accessing the technology. So the
> question becomes what ADSL modems does Linux support. With few
> exceptions, ethernet.
>
> >how to configer 3com fast.. in Linux ?
>
> More info ...
>
> --
> Hal B
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> --



------------------------------

Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 10:14:04 -0500
Subject: Re: Was: can't ... REMOUNT; now: making boot

In <8uglsa$plh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 11/10/00 
   at 11:23 AM, "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

First off, thanks for replying and I apologize for the unclarity of my
questions.

Let me try again:

Status quo: The situation now is that /dev/hda6 was blown away; this used
to be my boot partition. Using a floppy, I can boot into /dev/hda10, an
emergency partition I created last night. So, I can use it as a base of
operations.

Questions:

[1] I would like to set things up so that I can again use /dev/hda6 as my
boot partition; how do I do this?

[2] When I boot using 'linux init=/dev/hda7', I get the old stall at
'remounting, etc. etc.'; how do I overcome this?

Remarks:

(A) I keep examining the appropriate files (lilo.conf, fstab) and I don't
see any irregularities but I'm still studying them.

(B) Thanks for the tip about 'linux init=/bin/sh' and 'mount -wno remount
/'. I'm puzzled about how to use this wonderful set of tricks combined
with 'rdev' to solve my problems as listed above.

Sorry for being so dense -- patience, please, patience!

Felmon

===========================================================
     Felmon John Davis          
     [EMAIL PROTECTED]           
     [EMAIL PROTECTED]        
     Union College /  Schenectady, NY
     os/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack
===========================================================


------------------------------

From: Juergen Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem with USB Webcam on Suse Linux V7.0
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:16:38 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I just tried to install a USB Webcam on my Suse Linux V7.0 System.
While installing, i had to do: "modprobe usb-uhci" and got following
response:

/lib/modules/2.2.16-SMP/usb/usb-uhci.o: init_module: Das Ger�t oder die
Ressource ist belegt
Hint: this error can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including
invalid IO or IRQ parameters
/lib/modules/2.2.16-SMP/usb/usb-uhci.o: insmod
/lib/modules/2.2.16-SMP/usb/usb-uhci.o failed
/lib/modules/2.2.16-SMP/usb/usb-uhci.o: insmod usb-uhci failed

Seems to be some problem with parameters. where are the parameters
located (don't know anything about parameters),
an why are they incorrect?



--
Juergen Pfeiffer                                [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SoftKon GmbH                               Tel: +49-711-99058-14
Karlsruher Str. 11/1                         Fax: +49-711-99058-27
D-70771 Leinfelden Echterdingen    http://www.softkon.de



------------------------------

From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Was: can't ... REMOUNT; now: making boot
Date: 10 Nov 2000 15:30:52 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: In <8uglsa$plh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 11/10/00 
:    at 11:23 AM, "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
: Status quo: The situation now is that /dev/hda6 was blown away; this used
: to be my boot partition. Using a floppy, I can boot into /dev/hda10, an
: emergency partition I created last night. So, I can use it as a base of
: operations.

Well, you don't need ANY base of operations. You just need your file
system.

: [1] I would like to set things up so that I can again use /dev/hda6 as my
: boot partition; how do I do this?

Why do you care? I already said ONCE that a boot partition is nothing
special. It's the name of the place where you keep your kernel image.
It can be anywhere. It doesn't have to be a linux partition, even.
Put your kernel image wherever you like, and that becomes "the boot
partition".

Do you mean something else by the term? Such as "the partition on which
I keep the boot sector that takes me to the kernel image of choice"?

: [2] When I boot using 'linux init=/dev/hda7', I get the old stall at
: 'remounting, etc. etc.'; how do I overcome this?

By not writing it! You mean "root=/dev/hda7", surely? Well, fix up the
partition. Check all its bits and pieces are in place. Sounds like
something pretty fundamental is awry there. Such as not having a shell.
Or not having a console, or no etc or no dev. Etc. etc. Run the init
scripts one by one until you find out what's broken.

Or don't - reinstall the partition from your backups, or whatever you
installed it from.

: (A) I keep examining the appropriate files (lilo.conf, fstab) and I don't
: see any irregularities but I'm still studying them.

What makes you think those have anything to do with it? You have to
have a reason!

: (B) Thanks for the tip about 'linux init=/bin/sh' and 'mount -wno remount
: /'. I'm puzzled about how to use this wonderful set of tricks combined
: with 'rdev' to solve my problems as listed above.

There are no tricks. You said that you were stymied by not being able
to write on the partition, so I pointed out that you had to mount it
read/write and told you how to remount it so. Using the flag "rw" at
bootup would also have done it for you, in combo with init=/bin/sh and
root=/dev/hda7. These are not tricks. 

Peter

------------------------------

From: John Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: good safe thunderbird/motherboard combo?
Date: 10 Nov 2000 16:08:14 GMT

I've been scanning the Linux groups with deja, and I'm having trouble
making sense of the problem/success stories.  It seems that motherboards
with the HighPoint chipset might work, but not with raid.  It also seems
that some distributions work out of the box, and others need patches to
correct the CPU ID problem.

I'd like to set up a fairly 'modern' system, with TB900, 133MHz memory,
and ATA-100.  Is that safe and reliable to do right now, or should I pay a
little more for PIII and Intel chipset and buy myself some peace of mind?

Thanks,

John


------------------------------


** FOR YOUR REFERENCE **

The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests
to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is:

    Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.setup) via:

    Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
    ftp.funet.fi                                pub/Linux
    tsx-11.mit.edu                              pub/linux
    sunsite.unc.edu                             pub/Linux

End of Linux-Setup Digest
******************************

Reply via email to