Linux-Setup Digest #10, Volume #21 Sun, 8 Apr 01 08:13:11 EDT
Contents:
Re: RH7.0 on A7M266, worth it? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: RH7.0 on A7M266, worth it? (Julie Brandon)
Fatal Error at the end of RedHat installation ("Matthias Hartung")
Re: What's with mksmbpasswd? ("Linux")
Re: Fatal Error at the end of RedHat installation (Stanislaw Flatto)
Win2K, WIn98 and Linux on the same disk ("Albretch")
Compiler not working ("Andy Walker")
Re: pls help! installation problem on slave hd (Stanislaw Flatto)
Re: Epson printer configuration for LaTeX (Peter)
**HELP > S3 and RH7.0 Problem ("Mandy Berry")
mandrake linux install problems. ("Graham")
mandrake linux install problems. ("Graham")
Re: RH7.0 on A7M266, worth it? ("Jeffrey Yu")
Modem/Soundcard conflict ("David Pack")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.hardware.amd.thunderbird,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: RH7.0 on A7M266, worth it?
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 08:51:03 GMT
Please- let us not discuss hardware performance (the value of
benchmarks, etc.) issues only- that is hashed out elsewhere. What can
you all provide in terms of your experiences with linux on the AND760
(761) chipset boards?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Julie Brandon)
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.hardware.amd.thunderbird,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: RH7.0 on A7M266, worth it?
Date: 8 Apr 2001 08:38:47 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 07 Apr 2001 17:14:11 GMT, Colorado Dave ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
>Is it possible for people to DISCUSS an issue without resorting to
>profanity, name-calling, and insults?
Not, usually, when a thread is crossposted to three or more groups, like
this one is. In fact it's rather a certainty really, which I guess is why
trolls often crosspost their messages.
Ta-ra,
--
Julie Brandon, Derby, UK | Gena Side (HL, Q3A & UT)
<URL:http://www.computergeeks.co.uk/> | Wocyllis (Daytona & PSO 28 HUnewear)
(includes cheap'n'chearful live webcam) | Happy to team with PSO newbies!
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From: "Matthias Hartung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Fatal Error at the end of RedHat installation
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 12:03:55 +0200
Hi all,
a couple of times I tried to install my RedHat7 that I bought together with
a Linux journal.
At the end of the installation process (configuring the system) every time
there is a Fatal Error message, that the number of cylinders (or sectors?)
is too big, I can't remember the whole report because the next screen
(building boot disk) appears too soon...
I've got a 41 GB IBM Deskstar (IDE), 35 Gigs are for Win98, 512MB Linux
swap, the rest Linux native (root).
The installation volume was about 600 MB.
(Should I select the "Linear Mode" at the beginning?)
At booting from the installation CD there is another message: Fatal Server
Error, no screens found. Significant?
Who could give me some hints?
Thanx alot.
Matthias
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From: "Linux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,linux.redhat.misc,linux.samba
Subject: Re: What's with mksmbpasswd?
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 11:10:44 +0100
Hi,
Have you tryed:-
smbpasswd -a username
This is how I add new users ;-)
I still have not worked out how to delete them once they leave ;-(
Have fun
Mark
Hiawatha Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9anub5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I finally installed the Samba server RPM, so mksmbpasswd is on my
computer.
> But it won't run. I don't get it....
>
> At least smbpasswd is running now. But I just can't get it to accept a
new
> password. Is there some other way to achieve this? Thanks.
>
>
>
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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fatal Error at the end of RedHat installation
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 20:59:39 +1000
Matthias Hartung wrote:
> Hi all,
Hi Mattias!
Lets try to make your life simpler.
If you still have your old hard disk, put it in the box together with the new
monster and install Linux on it.
LILO will be installed in MBR (Master Boot Record) of primary drive and
everything will be normal.
If it is your first install do it simple, when you become semi-guru, like in
six month time you will laugh heartily at this misshap.
> At booting from the installation CD there is another message: Fatal Server
> Error, no screens found. Significant?
Not realy. The "fatal error" is to relay on distribution that needs special
hardware preparation for performing.(no names)
> Who could give me some hints?
> Thanx alot.
>
> Matthias
Have fun.
Stanislaw.
Slack user from Ulladulla.
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From: "Albretch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Win2K, WIn98 and Linux on the same disk
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 10:59:22 GMT
Hi,
I need to install Win2000, Win98 and Linux on different partitions of the
same hardrive, for some reason I am getting "Kernel panic" during the linus
instalation after installing Win2000 and Win98.
I first used (the DOS version of) fdisk to set up the first two partitions:
Part Status Type Volume Label Mbytes System Usage
C:1 A PRI DOS 9452 FAT32 33%
2 EXT DOS 4581 16%
Now I need to install Linux on the other half of the disk.
How do you do it?
Then I will need the Linux OS to be able to read the data on the Win2K and
Win98 patitions. I have heard this is possible how do you do this?
Any help would be appreciated.
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From: "Andy Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Compiler not working
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 12:10:20 -0000
I'm trying to get plib to install so I can then get FlightGear going but
when I do ./configure it fails. The message I get is GCC failure but in the
text before that, it actually says that GCC is O.K. when it tests for it's
presence.
I'm using Mandrake7.2 without any upgrades and would like to know if anyone
has had the same problem. Is it something missing on this distribution
because I used the option install everything when I originally installed
Mandrake and I've yet to successfully compile anything at all that works!
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: tw.bbs.comp.linux
Subject: Re: pls help! installation problem on slave hd
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 21:29:13 +1000
Hi Kim!
"Me from Barcelona, me know nothing." (Fawlty Towers)
In "normal" box the BIOS on boot looks for information included in MBR on
primary interface master IDE0. (You can instruct modern BIOSes to look in other
places but if suddenly it becomes sclerotic (battery dead) it defaults to this).
You have CD-ROM as primary master, nothing can be written to it.
Change the master-slave components on primary interface and try again.
Drop a line on results.
Stanislaw.
Slack user from Ulladulla.
Kim wrote:
> i would like to know can linux install the loader i.e. LILO on slave hd?
Yes, but something has to direct the system to read it there, either BIOS+MBR or
booting diskette.
>
> or is it a must install LILO on master hd?
See above.
>
> thx!
Welcome.
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From: Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Epson printer configuration for LaTeX
Date: 08 Apr 2001 13:13:53 +0200
>> "TT" == Thomas Tonino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> How can I get good latex/postscript output?
TT> It should be able to do this. Do you know for sure you give the right
TT> options to Ghostscript? They are long, and they need to be in the right
TT> combination.
TT> It may pay to look into Foomatic
TT> (http://www.linuxprinting.org/foomatic.html) to set your ghostscript
TT> options. And if you dare, have a look at CUPS and the X Printing Panel
TT> (http://cups.sourceforge.net/xpp/) which allow you to easily set printer
TT> stuff from a gui called XPP, which is a replacement for lpr and lp.
I installed cups also, after some experimenting I get good LaTeX
output now, but...my ghostscript has been destroyed :( A 'gs 'h" now
segfaults. Grmbl.
(I did install an "epson-driver-included" gs yesterday, called
"espgs-5.50.1pre7", with which I managed to get output to the printer
by calling it directly, but not through the normal "dvips" method.)
TT> I think your problem is just the options passed to the hgimp-print
TT> driver and/or Ghostscript. With these set correctly, printing through
TT> Ghostscript should be just as clean as from Gimp directly.
Hm, I guess so - but the documentation of all this is very unclear. I
have no idea what exactly gets called by whom when I "dvips" a
file. The cups http configuration doesn't work properly either - i get
a "document contains no data" when I try to log in to the
administrative pages.
I also looked at foomatic, but it is not clear if I need it. It talks
about working together with CUPS, I downloaded it, but it has some
kind of weird installer where you have to be online and things get
downloaded outside your control. ARGH! Why isn't there any decent
documentation?
Anyway, it seems to work now, but it feels very unstable.
Thanks for the comments & pointers,
-peter
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From: "Mandy Berry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: **HELP > S3 and RH7.0 Problem
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 12:18:19 -0700
Hello all,
I'm having a bit of trouble bringing up
my X server and I was wondering if you could
help.
I've recently installed RH7.0 on an
Advent 8475DVD (laptop). According to
Win**ws98 my graphics card is a
S3 Inc. Savage/MX w/MV. Also, according to
RH I shouldn't have any problems with this
card since it is supported.
I've selected the S3 Savage Generic in
Xconfigurator but I had no luck.
(I've also tried a number of other options
but still no luck). The main problem is
that my chipset is not recognised.
(I attach the results of an X -probeonly below).
Can someone please help me with this???
Thank you in advance,
Mandy.
--- BEGIN X -probeonly output ---
XFree86 Version 3.3.6 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)
Release Date: January 8 2000
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
problems. (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: Linux 2.2.5-22smp i686 [ELF]
Configured drivers:
SVGA: server for SVGA graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 1):
s3_savage, NV1, STG2000, RIVA 128, RIVA TNT, RIVA TNT2,
RIVA ULTRA TNT2, RIVA VANTA, RIVA ULTRA VANTA, RIVA INTEGRATED,
GeForce 256, GeForce DDR, Quadro, ET4000, ET4000W32, ET4000W32i,
ET4000W32i_rev_b, ET4000W32i_rev_c, ET4000W32p, ET4000W32p_rev_a,
ET4000W32p_rev_b, ET4000W32p_rev_c, ET4000W32p_rev_d, ET6000, ET6100,
et3000, pvga1, wd90c00, wd90c10, wd90c30, wd90c24, wd90c31, wd90c33,
gvga, r128, ati, sis86c201, sis86c202, sis86c205, sis86c215,
sis86c225, sis5597, sis5598, sis6326, sis530, sis620, sis300, sis630,
sis540, tvga8200lx, tvga8800cs, tvga8900b, tvga8900c, tvga8900cl,
tvga8900d, tvga9000, tvga9000i, tvga9100b, tvga9200cxr, tgui9400cxi,
tgui9420, tgui9420dgi, tgui9430dgi, tgui9440agi, cyber9320, tgui9660,
tgui9680, tgui9682, tgui9685, cyber9382, cyber9385, cyber9388,
cyber9397, cyber9520, cyber9525, 3dimage975, 3dimage985, cyber9397dvd,
blade3d, cyberblade, clgd5420, clgd5422, clgd5424, clgd5426, clgd5428,
clgd5429, clgd5430, clgd5434, clgd5436, clgd5446, clgd5480, clgd5462,
clgd5464, clgd5465, clgd6205, clgd6215, clgd6225, clgd6235, clgd7541,
clgd7542, clgd7543, clgd7548, clgd7555, clgd7556, ncr77c22, ncr77c22e,
cpq_avga, mga2064w, mga1064sg, mga2164w, mga2164w AGP, mgag200,
mgag100, mgag400, oti067, oti077, oti087, oti037c, al2101, ali2228,
ali2301, ali2302, ali2308, ali2401, cl6410, cl6412, cl6420, cl6440,
video7, ark1000vl, ark1000pv, ark2000pv, ark2000mt, mx, realtek,
s3_virge, AP6422, AT24, AT3D, s3_svga, NM2070, NM2090, NM2093, NM2097,
NM2160, NM2200, ct65520, ct65525, ct65530, ct65535, ct65540, ct65545,
ct65546, ct65548, ct65550, ct65554, ct65555, ct68554, ct69000,
ct64200, ct64300, mediagx, V1000, V2100, V2200, p9100, spc8110, i740,
i740_pci, Voodoo Banshee, Voodoo3, i810, i810-dc100, i810e, smi,
generic
(using VT number 7)
XF86Config: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config
(**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
(**) XKB: keycodes: "xfree86"
(**) XKB: types: "default"
(**) XKB: compat: "default"
(**) XKB: symbols: "us(pc101)"
(**) XKB: geometry: "pc"
(**) XKB: rules: "xfree86"
(**) XKB: model: "pc101"
(**) XKB: layout: "gb"
(**) Mouse: type: PS/2, device: /dev/mouse, buttons: 3
(**) Mouse: 3 button emulation (timeout: 50ms)
(**) SVGA: Graphics device ID: "My Video Card"
(**) SVGA: Monitor ID: "My Monitor"
(--) SVGA: Mode "640x480" needs hsync freq of 53.01 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 64.02 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 55.84 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode "1024x480" needs vert refresh rate of 92.12 Hz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 80.21 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 56.48 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 62.50 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 70.24 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 89.62 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 53.51 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 62.42 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 70.88 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 76.01 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 107.16 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 64.25 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 74.59 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 78.86 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 81.13 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 91.15 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 75.00 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 87.50 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 93.75 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 105.77 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode "1800X1440" needs hsync freq of 96.15 kHz. Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode "1800X1440" needs hsync freq of 104.52 kHz. Deleted.
Warning: The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(**) FontPath set to "unix/:7100"
(--) SVGA: PCI: S3 Unknown chipset (0x8c10) rev 17, Memory @ 0xf0000000
(--) SVGA: Unknown S3 chipset: chip_id = 0x8c10 rev. 11
(--) SVGA: chipset: generic
(--) SVGA: videoram: 64k
(--) SVGA: clocks: 25.18
(**) SVGA: Using 8 bpp, Depth 8, Color weight: 666
(--) SVGA: Using builtin driver modes
(--) SVGA: Builtin Mode: 320x200
(--) SVGA: Virtual resolution set to 320x204
(--) SVGA: SpeedUp code selection modified because virtualX != 1024
--- END ---
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From: "Graham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mandrake linux install problems.
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 23:05:12 +1200
I have just installed mandrake 6.5 and for some reason it needs the floppy
boot disk in to load up. If I dont it checks the cd for bootable media then
it starts to write 01 01 01 01 and so on on the screen. If I have the boot
disk in then it load into KDE shell with no problems ?
why is this ?
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From: "Graham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mandrake linux install problems.
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 23:12:23 +1200
I have just installed mandrake 6.5 and for some reason it needs the floppy
boot disk in to load up. If I dont it checks the cd for bootable media then
it starts to write 01 01 01 01 and so on on the screen. If I have the boot
disk in then it load into KDE shell with no problems ?
why is this ?
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From: "Jeffrey Yu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.hardware.amd.thunderbird,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: RH7.0 on A7M266, worth it?
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 11:18:22 GMT
Without knowing the specifics of the hardware designs of these two boards,
I am leaning toward the A7V133 for 2 reasons:
1. The chipset has been around a while, the quality is somewhat known. The
DDR memory/chipset definitely could deliver better speed, but they could
introduce
bugs/incompatibility as well, which we may not have experienced yet.
Therefore,
the track record of A7V133 have a upper hand of DDR/AMD761 chipset.
2. The performance difference could be slim in most of the cases. More
importantly,
users may not realize the difference at all. To that end, stability becomes
more
important.
So, could we say A7V133 might be more suitable to Linux, as we have seen
problems
often result in incompatibility? What's your thought on this? Thanks
again.
J.
"Tom Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Jeffrey Yu wrote:
> > Yes, the question is whether it is worth to have RH7.0 installed on a
> > A7M266 motherboard, the CPU in mind is the 1.33G, and 512MB RAM.
> > The alternative is the A7V133A, any comment at all? TIA.
>
> I have an A7V133 and love it.
>
> Yes, benchmarks can distinguish between DDR and PC133 memory, just like
> they can distinguish between 800 and 1300 MHz processors. But _YOU_ almost
> certainly won't be able to, EXCEPT IN YOUR WALLET!
>
> For all but the tiny percentage of programs which can execute mostly
> cache-bound[##], the core speed of the CPU is almost irrelevant: what
> matters is memory speed. For memory speed, what matters is ACCESS TIME and
> not data rate. Those DDR RAMs have the same 60-70 ns (or so) access time
as
> PC133 RAMs.
>
> [##] "mostly" is >98%; for even a 3% cache miss rate the CPU
> wastes time waiting on memory (in our simulations, at least).
>
> This is a highly technical question of how the data actually gets from
> memory to the CPU (reads outnumber writes by typically 4:1 or more, so
> one normally optimizes for reads). I do NOT know what these motherboard
> chipsets can do, but I do know about our memory controllers (this is
> for a PowerPC system, not Intel/AMD). Our current memory controller takes
> 12 clocks per memory access of which the last 4 carry data. So DDR memory
> would reduce that to 10 clocks, less than 20% improvement. BUT -- that
> improvement is LOST unless the memory controller can overlap a sufficient
> number of requests to keep the memory bus occupied. Ours can have 4
> requests outstanding, but for DDR that is not enough, and there is no
> advantage whatsoever of DDR over PC133, IN OUR DESIGN. YMMV, and I
> suspect the motherboard chipset designers worry about this a lot....
>
> Unless the motherboard chipset can keep at least 8 memory requests
> outstanding AND OVERLAP THEM, and unless you have multiple DIMMs which
> are appropriately interleaved (so different requests hit different
> memory banks), DDR will have essentially no advantage over PC133 at all.
> (This assumes the processor is pipelined enough so 8 memory requests can
> exist.... Our PowerPCs can just about do that, but I don't know about
> Pentiums or Athlons....).
>
> I am not the hardware designer of the system I mentioned, I
> do OS software for it. It is an embedded PowerPC "supercomputer
> on a board" completely unrelated to the PC market. I know enough
> about this to be dangerous.... And I know NOTHING about the
> details of Pentiums or Athlons or PC chipsets.
>
>
> Tom Roberts
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Reply-To: "David Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "David Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Modem/Soundcard conflict
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 19:55:57 -0400
I am running Phat Linux 3.3 and I have had troble getting my Modem and
Soundcard to work at the same time in Linux. I tried disabling the Plug
In Play option in my BIOS. That made the soundcard work but now the
modem won't, and when it is reversed the modem works and the soundcard
don't. I ran sndconfig and it recognized the soundcard as normal, a AWE
64 PNP but it couldn't run the auto configuration. I put in my
configuration manually from the information I got from the Windows 95
Device Manager and that still didn't work.
My modem is on COM3, 0x3E8 IRQ 10
My soundcard is I/O Port 0x220, IRQ 5, DMA1 1, DMA2 5, MPU I/O 0x330
I have the DOS drivers loaded for both devices. I load linux from
Loadlin`
-David Pack
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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