Linux-Setup Digest #35, Volume #20               Tue, 14 Nov 00 08:13:07 EST

Contents:
  Re: SMP Thoughts? (Topaz Crow)
  Re: lvs.cf question (ratz)
  Re: Windows Emulators vs. Dual Booting (robert w hall)
  Execution wrapper? ("Trond Aasan")
  Re: ipvsadm question (ratz)
  Re: web base piranha help plz (ratz)
  Help with Ran Out of Input Data Error ("Mike Jenkins")
  rh6.2 & KDE2 from dot.kde.org ("O.Petzold")
  Re: easy apache question. (Marc D. Williams)
  SMB / Soundcard ("Zayin Krige")
  Re: xanim, QuickTime 4, "Sorenson video" (Udo Wolter)
  auto power off (Fokkema DBRA)
  Re: Where's my memory going? (Carsten Weinhold)
  Re: Which distro for old(486SX 6MB) firewall (DeAnn)
  Using linux with MS Proxy server (Stu)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Topaz Crow)
Subject: Re: SMP Thoughts?
Date: 14 Nov 2000 10:39:07 GMT
Reply-To: alt.anonymous.messages;ATTN: Topaz Crow

On Mon, 13 Nov 2000 07:04:17 -0600, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>mark wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>>     I want to build a new dual processor system. I just wondered if
>> anyone's got any experience in this field? Rough idea on specs 2x 600Mhz
>> processors, G400 AGP graphics card, 3DFX card 20Gb HDD and A
>> motherboard. Which is the crunch point. What motherboard? I want to get
>> something the Linux gets on well with, and would be a nightmare to set
>> up. Any suggestions?
>> 
>> While I'm one the subject of SMP. Is it possible, like in VMS, to force
>> the system to run a certain process on a certain processor? If I don't
>> how does the Kernel decide where to place a process? Does it just simple
>> give it to the CPU which has the least work to do? Finally do you see
>> good performance improvements?
>> 
>
>
>I use a Supermicro S2DGU which works great. At the time I built it the
>XEON processors were over $3000 each so I put PII's in it until the
>XEON's price comes down.
>

Another Supermicro here.  P6DGU with two PIII700's and a Matrox G400.  Comes
with built in SCSI U2W.  Great motherboard.  Not a sigle problem setting up
and the board sets up the SCSI so you don't have to worry about getting
linux to do it on bootup.  It will boot from the SCSI CD's.

The specs say it supports up to 600mhz but the manual has setings up to 750.
And I think penguincomputing.com was putting 800's on their systems with this
MB.

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From: ratz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: lvs.cf question
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:19:04 +0100

Hi Tin,

Fist of all, please don't crosspost.
Second, try to use the specific newsgroups or mailinglists
for your problem. In your case this would be the lvs-mailing-
list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) for ipvsadm related
questions.

Tin wrote:
> 
> some problem when i running ipvsadm directly
> 1. ipvsadm -A -t 1.1.1.1:80 -s wlc

Correct, so you're setting up the director with the DR
method. Just take care of the routing!
 
> 2.ipvsadm -L
> IP Virtual Server version 0.9.14 (size=4096)
> Prot LocalAddress:Port Scheduler Flags
>   -> RemoteAddress:Port          Forward Weight ActiveConn InActConn
> TCP  myserver.mydomain.com:www wlc
> 
> 3.ipvsadm -a -t 1.1.1.1:80 -r 192.168.1.2
> 
> 4.ipvsadm -a -t 1.1.1.1:80 -r 192.168.1.3
>  setsockopt failed: File exists
>  Destination already exists

Ok. This works over here and I currently can't think of why
it breaks for you. But to investigate something more detailed
we need more information about your system, such as Kernel 
version, patch release, ipvsadm release, and and and...
 
> 5.ipvsadm -L -n
> IP Virtual Server version 0.9.14 (size=4096)
> Prot LocalAddress:Port Scheduler Flags
>   -> RemoteAddress:Port          Forward Weight ActiveConn InActConn
> TCP  1.1.1.1:80 wlc
>   -> 0.80.0.0:0                  Masq    0      0          0

oups, it looks like the getopt doesn't work in a correct way 
at your machine. Normally this indicates some version conflict
and normally a version conflict implies a prepatched redhat 
system. Could you please provide us with more infos like already 
mentioned above. But please post to the lvs-mailinglist so we 
(or I) can help you. 
 
> what's i doing wrong?
> please help me
> thank you very much
> 
> tin
> 
> If you are running ipvsadm directly, you don't use lvs.cf.

I anyway recommend to set the lvs up by hand the first time
in order to get the idea behind. Most people asking questions
about lvs have not yet understood how this concept is. This
can either be lack of documentation (which I don't think is
the case actually) or because of all those nice GUIs and pre-
pared setup tools.

Best regards,
Roberto Nibali, ratz

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From: robert w hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Windows Emulators vs. Dual Booting
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 11:20:15 +0000

In article <8ur1t5$kai$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
>Some of my orginal post:
>> >So:
>> >Why do people dual boot when there are emulators?  From my searches,
>> >it
>> >does seem they are a slower then the 'real thing'.  How noticable on
>> >the Word '97 front?  I do not play games, and hence this is entirely
>> >a non-issue.
>Robert -
>
>Thank you, most informative on the differences in the various windows
>emulators.
well there was some native windows 95 data in there as well :-)
>
>Do you (or anyone else) have information on the performance of Windows
>Emulators vs a "real" Win95 install on another partion?
>
>Issues:
>- Speed for Word97 & Excel
as I indicated (but join, browse and ask in say win4lin-users, win4lin-
beta), most people seem to report that win4lin reproduces 'windows
loo&feel' (and so by implication, confirmed by some measurement, is
comparable in speed for windows manips & file handling). 
Wine displays are often quirky and a little slow. 
VmWare was slow for me but I don't run a hotbox by today's standards

>- Relative stability :-)
most of these emulators have the benefit that you can reload from a
crash pretty quickly. both win4lin(v1 , not v2 which is still in beta)
and vmware are inherently fairly stable now I think. 
Wine is the exception - it's still alpha and, if you keep up-to-date
with the latest cvs, can go through phases where your favourite app. 'ne
marche pas'

>- Disk Space Requirements
wine source is big, during compilation (mine's up to 337Mb) - but a
stripped binary (which can be found via winehq.com) is only 4 or 5Mb,
and will run off an existing windows installation. 
The requirements for win4lin and vmware on listed on their sites
(win4lin+win95 classic needs about 100Mb I recollect, but only about
15Mb of this is 'win4lin overhead'). Win4lin, in particular, needs a
fresh windows installation under win4lin on an ext2 (or possibly also
now reiser) filesystem. 

>- How well they can render Word'97 & Excel Applications
>
I've largely covered that I think, in so far as I can - I run the latest
excel and word viewers and a rather dated (1995) full copy of Office Pro
under win4lin. (watch out for 'findfast' on a 10Gb disk!)
>Thanks!
>
All of these have no-go areas eg 
win4lin doesn't support M$ networking (but does support TCP/IP, nfs etc
via the host operating/file system); sound is also NOT 105% yet.  
Wine has some good multimedia features, I hear. 
VmWare is pretty solid/stolid!, and will access some features (eg some
I/O devices) that win4lin & wine won't, (but is a little slow and pricey
for my taste).

You should consider having at least 2 strings to your bow if you want to
leave dual-booting a a distant memory (I think I DID boot up win95 some
time last month!).  
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/

so now, to re-state, there's (time-limited but full) demo's of all of
them:-
http://www.winehq.com
http://www.netraverse.com
http://www.vmware.com

 - GO TRY
>Before you buy.
indeed
-- 
robert w hall

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From: "Trond Aasan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Execution wrapper?
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:25:52 +0100

How do I set up an execution wrapper for a particular file-type (extension)?
I wish to execute a java jar from a bash shell just by doing something like:
[user@host java]$./program.jar

This would invoke a wrapper with the filename in question as an argument.

(I use RH6.1)

Trond Aasan



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From: ratz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.security,linux,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Re: ipvsadm question
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:35:54 +0100

Hi Tin,

;) Another crosspost of a lvs-related question. I assure you, if
you ask those questions in the lvs-mailinglist, you'll get a fast
and correct response (apologies to Bruno, you of course haven't 
said anything wrong on this subject so far ;) and <ironic> you don't 
get flamed for crossposting </ironic>

Tin wrote:
> 
> Hi Bruno:
> i'm using 2.2.16-22 RH7.0 but still have this problem
> cause i want to using cluster firewall ipvsadm replace ipmasqadm

I really /really/ (tm) advise you to grab a fresh copy of the
kernel at kernel.org, grab the appropriate ipvs-patch from
www.linux-vs.org and do it by yourself. I'm absolutely positive,
that this time ipvsadm won't replace your ipmasqadm!
 
> > I know I had some problems when I was using a 2.2.12-20 kernel. I don't
> > remember if it is exactly what you had below. I got a 2.2.16-4 kernel

Redhat's kernel patching in relation to the version of the shipped
ipvsadm is known to be broken. However like you state below, one 
can get another bunch of old possible-not-everything-is-working-for-
example-the-persistency-with-fwmarking-stuff rpm.

> > that had patches to work with ipvsadm and that fixed the problem.
> > This kernel and an updated ipvsadm are still available at redhat
> > (I don't remember exactly where, but a google search can find it)
> > as of a couple a weeks ago when I needed to get a copy of the source
> > rpm so I could rebuild a copy with a larger random pool.
> >
> > Another thing that you might need to do is use the -m option. I don't
> > know if gatewaying works if you are redirecting stuff to private
> addresses.

It works and is just a matter of the servers routing table ;) 

Best regards,
Roberto Nibali, ratz

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From: ratz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.security,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Re: web base piranha help plz
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:39:53 +0100

Hi Tin (for the third time. I wonder how many time you posted here ;)

Apologies for the noise in all the newsgroups!

Tin wrote:
> 
> hi
> when i finish setup in web base piranha the ipvsadm still nothing change
> what i setting wrong anyone can help me
> i'm using piranha-gui-0.4.14-1.i386.rpm  piranha-0.4.14-1.i386.rpm on RH 7.0
> 
> CURRENT LVS ROUTING TABLE
> 
>  IP Virtual Server version 0.9.7 (size=4096)
> Prot LocalAddress:Port Scheduler Flags
>   -> RemoteAddress:Port          Forward Weight ActiveConn InActConn

This is a very, very, very, very, extremely old, unstable,
unreliable, not to be used version of ipvs-patch. Please 
take a fresh kernel, grab the patch from www.linux-vs.org 
and do it by yourself. It's saves your time tremendously.

Best regards,
Roberto Nibali, ratz

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From: "Mike Jenkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help with Ran Out of Input Data Error
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 06:05:28 -0600

When attempting to install the latest version of the Peanut Linux
distribution (Linux 2.2.18) on an Intel Celeron Pentium 366, 64MB RAM, with
plenty of disk space, the process repeatedly aborts with the
message..."uncompressing Linux....ran out of input data....system halted."
The same image files and installer installed fine on my Dell notebook.

Does anyone know what this error means?  I can't find a reference to it in
any set of FAQs. Is there a work-around?

Thanks

Mike Jenkins
Linux Newbie



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From: "O.Petzold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: rh6.2 & KDE2 from dot.kde.org
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 08:45:56 +0100

Hallo,

after update my rh 6.2 with kde2 I have some problems:
- I can't start into runlevel 5 (xdm). I get the message
     init: Id"x" respawning to fast: disabled for 5 minutes
- The taskbar of kde isn't there (in the kde controll center
     the position is ghosted)
- in the kde controll center the help-index tab has
    ghosted gadgets for man and info path

Who can help  ?
Its downloaded from dot.kde.org resp. sourceforge. There is
no noarch dir so I got the kde-i8n-xx from the rawhide.

Thanks    Olaf


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc D. Williams)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: easy apache question.
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:10:28 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 06 Nov 2000 19:29:42 GMT, Buschman wrote:
>
>
>Where can i find the how-tos to set up apache?  I want to set up
>accounts for all my users.  How do I set them up, give the world
>access to a certain directory without giving them access to the user's
>home directory, then set up permissions on all these directories.  I
>aam new to linux and am using MDK7.2 
>
Here's some links to a few tutorials.

http://www.witheredpipedream.com/webserver1.htm
http://www.apache.org/docs/
http://apache-server.com/tutorials/
http://www.WebmasterBase.com/article.php3?aid=230&pid=0

Some are basic, others are a bit advanced.
Lots of info.

-- 
>>ANIME SENSHI<<

Marc D. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.oldskool.org/~tvdog/ -- DOS Internet & Tandy 1000
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Platform/8269/ -- Win3.x Makeover

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From: "Zayin Krige" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SMB / Soundcard
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 14:26:06 +0200

I'm not sure if this is soundcard or network related

I've setup my linux box to access a NT4.0 server share. It sees the share
fine, but after about 30secs of playing an mp3, it dies. the system hangs
and i have to hit the reset button.

The reason i think it might be the sound card, is that the mp3 doesnt play
properly. it will play about a second and then repeat that 1 second snippet
until the machine hangs...

any ideas?


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From: Udo Wolter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: xanim, QuickTime 4, "Sorenson video"
Date: 14 Nov 2000 12:32:06 GMT

Mike Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If I try to play QuickTime 4 .mov files in xanim (the version
> corresponding to Linux RH6.2), it says "Sorenson video not yet
> supported" or some such thing.

> Does anyone know:

>   1) When, if ever, Sorenson video will be supported by xanim?
>   2) If there's another way to play QuickTime movies under Linux?

At this time the Sorenson codec is not supported under Linux. There will
be some workaround soon with a new real player. The real server from
RealNetworks can handle files with this codec, the problem is that at
this time there is no linux player from real. But I think it's a matter
of time. In maybe half a year it should be possible to play
Quicktime and even other Sorenson codec movies.

Bye,
        Udo

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From: Fokkema DBRA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: auto power off
Date: 14 Nov 2000 12:48:44 GMT

Hi!

I just upgraded from RH6.2 to RH7.0 and I noticed something slightly irritating.
When I shut down my system under RH6.2 the kernel automatically powered down
the system. Under RH7.0, it just halts the system. Why is this? Is it a kernel
problem (just switch this option and recompile?) or do I have to edit some
file or is it something else?

Hope that someone can help.

Regards,

David

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From: Carsten Weinhold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where's my memory going?
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 13:58:59 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Ok, this is weird.  When I boot the machine, my memory test goes up to
> 128Meg, which is what I would expect since that's what I bought the
> machine with.  However, I've just recently noticed that top, asmem and
> other memory-load checkers are reporting only 64Meg.  What's going on?
> Am I missing something obvious?  I thought my machine was spending
> lots of time grinding on the hard disks, and it appears that X is
> taking up 86% of my memory leaving only about 12Meg or so for all my
> apps -- no wonder I'm swapping so much!
> 
> Anybody know why only half my memory is reporting?  If I'd blow a SIMM
> or something, wouldn't it fail the initial check at bootup?
> 
> Duane


You need to pass a parameter to your kernel: mem=128M
If you are using lilo to boot linux, add this parameter to the 
'append'-line in /etc/lilo.conf, it should look like this:

append="mem=128M 'other params here'"

Carsten



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DeAnn)
Subject: Re: Which distro for old(486SX 6MB) firewall
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:55:02 GMT

On Mon, 13 Nov 2000 04:11:52 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Hi everybody.  I recently purchased an old PC for use as a linux
>firewall/IP forwarding.  Here are the specs:
>
>Processor: 486SX
>Memory:  6MB
>Hard Drive: 130MB
>NIC:  3COM ISA Etherlink III
>NO CD-ROM
>
>I was wondering which distribution would be easiest to install with this
>
>setup?  I want as minimal a setup as I can possibly get (ONLY
>firewalling/IP forwarding).   Is this even feasible with this hardware?
>......
   I would recommend Debian for a machine with this small of a RAM.
Debian also will do a floppy install easily (you can write the dozen
or so floppies of a basic install from the cdrom using another
machine, either DOSWIN or LINUX).  
  Note, the RAM is so small that the machine could be a bottleneck in
your network.  You might be able to upgrade the memory cheap if you
scout around used computer places.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stu)
Subject: Using linux with MS Proxy server
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 13:06:07 GMT

Hi all, I have a pc running Debian Potato at work and am trying to get a 
connection to the internet via an MS Proxy Server.  I would ideally like to 
have http, telnet, ssh, ftp and finger access to the outside world.

My IP setup seems fine for internal use & I can ping other servers on our LAN 
as well as establish samba connections with NT boxen.

I have installed the socks4-client package, but I am at a loss as to how to 
make it do my bidding.

I could try asking the network admin who is responsible for the Proxy 
server... but unfortunately I am the said network admin & as I said earlier, I 
completely lack a clue.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance,

Stu.

-- 
Stuart Houghton
Amnesty International UK
"One word geek test - pronounce the word 'coax' "

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