Linux-Setup Digest #82, Volume #20 Tue, 21 Nov 00 09:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: Linux on AMD (moonie;))
Re: Can a USB Scanner work under Mandrake? ("Texstar")
Re: "Out of scan range" error (Glitch)
Modified Cue Cat does not work on X windows (E J)
Re: How to apply ATA100 patch to RH7 source tree? (crackdaddy)
Re: How Do I Make Vi My Command History Editor (Villy Kruse)
Re: network unreachable outside the domain ("Jopa")
Re: Dual Boot 98 + Redhat 6.2 (Stanislaw Flatto)
Re: Newbie wants more readable fonts! (Bill Boman)
Re: network unreachable outside the domain ("Jonas Engmarker")
Re: network unreachable outside the domain (Giorgio Corani)
Re: ntpdate problem (Udo Wolter)
Re: Kernel Compilation Errors (was Re: "Warning: Pasting would not give a valid
pre-processing token") (Bernhard Mogens Ege)
console on serial line and lilo (Eros Albertazzi)
Re: ntpdate problem (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?=)
video card (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Patte)
Re: LILO doesn't install with TurboLinux Server (Nick Ruisi)
microemacs 4.00 port? (Martin Gregorie)
Re: kppp / DNS suddenly won't resolve!! ("Pietro Pesci-Feltri C.")
Re: Kernel Compilation Errors (was Re: "Warning: Pasting would not give a valid
pre-processing token") (Rand Simberg)
Re: Triple boot with NT in second drive (Rod Smith)
Re: how do you say "edit lilo.conf; lilo" in GRUB? (walt)
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From: moonie;) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on AMD
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 01:11:45 -0500
On Mon, 20 Nov 2000, Charif Lakchiri wrote:
>"Noel Ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Have been unable to install Linux Red Hat 6.2 on both my AMD 700 & AMD 233
>> Does it run on AMD's ?
>>
>>
>
>I am working on Red Hat 7 installed on AMD Duron 700 and I cant complain.
>
>regards
I have installed Linux on K6 233, K6-2/300, K6-2/400, K6-2/450, K6-2/500, and a
K6-III/450. Distro's used have been RH 4.2, 5.2, Mandrake 5.3, 6.1, 7.02. I
would have to say YES it will.
--
moonie ;)
Registered Linux User #175104
http://counter.li.org
KDE2
Kernel 2.4.0-test5
XFree86 4.0 Nvidia .94 drivers
RAID 0 Striped
Test-Pilots-R-Us ;)
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From: "Texstar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can a USB Scanner work under Mandrake?
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 06:08:12 GMT
Check out the SANE site to see if your scanner is supported. I was able
to get my parallel port hp Scanjet 5100c going from the infomation on
their site.
http://www.mostang.com/sane/
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "John O'Sullivan"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, I have a HP6200C USB flatbed scanner. Is it possible to get it to
> work on my Pentium PC running Linux Mandrake 7.1? Anybody done this?
> (This is one of the few remaining reasons why I still need to
> keep Windows on my system).
>
> Thanks John
> [remove the numbers in my email to reply]
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 01:41:30 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: "Out of scan range" error
when u start X do 'startx | more' and the output will be displayed on
teh screen page by page(when it works with root just exit X and you will
be able to see the output, press SPacebar to goto next page of output).
Do it for root and a regular userand see what scan lines are being used
in each case. OBviously the scan lines of xf86config file is too high,
or low, for your monitor (hence outof range)
abinitio wrote:
>
> Everytime I start the X server, the monitor goes blank and I get a
> "out of scan range" error. But this does NOT happen when I logged is as
> root.
>
> Somebody has a clue ... ?
>
> Distribution : Redhat 6.2
> Monitor : Sony Multiscan CPD-200ES
> video-Card: Evilqueen Voodoo Banshee
>
> Thanks in advance
> abinitio
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Modified Cue Cat does not work on X windows
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 06:53:53 GMT
I just modified my Cue Cat to read barcodes and spit out the numbers
without being scrambled. It works under windows or text based linux,
but when I run X windows(KDE or Failsafe mode), it does not work. When
I scan a barcode in X windows based text editor, the screen would just
give a few beeps and line feed. How do I get my modified Cue Cat to
work under X windows?
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From: crackdaddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: How to apply ATA100 patch to RH7 source tree?
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 07:15:26 GMT
On Thu, 09 Nov 2000 21:24:43 GMT, James Richard Tyrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Alex Lui wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I try applying the ATA100 patch from www.linux-ide.org site to my RH7
>> (2.2.16-22) kernel source tree, but I keep getting and error "Enter patch
>> name" when I run the command
>> "patch -p0 < patchfile" from the /usr/src directory.
>>
>> Any suggestion?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alex Lui
>
>The common wisdom is that you should not try to patch the Kernel source that
>came with Red Hat. You should download the official Kernel Source from
>kernel.org.
>
>However, if you open the patch with a text editor you will note that the
>third line (starts with "+++") refers to a directory. The one which I have
>refers to: linux-2.2.16.c. You need to make a link with that name to the
>base of your source tree for Patch to work by itself.
>
>JRT
>
>
huh? me stupid.. need more explain... please...
seriously though, I'm having the exact same problem (well, mandrake
7.2, kernel 2.2.17) but whatever you just said made no sense to me,
almost reminds me of whenever my wife speaks... the second her lips
start moving my brain shuts off (blabbermouth overload protection, get
yours today.) :) I really want this to work though, I compiled 2.4
test 10, but couldn't get anything to work ('cept my nifty little
ATA100 controller hehe) I also tried appending the boot loader with
the ide2=0x9400, 0x9002 etc... but then it just hangs trying to
configure hde... confusing... brain about to explode... argh!!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: How Do I Make Vi My Command History Editor
Date: 21 Nov 2000 08:42:31 GMT
On 20 Nov 2000 14:58:58 GMT, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Doesn't it? My bash(1) - version 2.04-8 from Debian unstable - has a
>"READLINE" section ...
>
It does, my mistake.
>Anyhow, you can do 'set -o vi' from the command-line, and that's among
>the bash builtins. I realize you could put 'set editing-mode vi' in
>~/.inputrc as well.
>
A permanent vi-mode is IMHO a nice thing, and it works for other tools
using readline as well.
Villy
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From: "Jopa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: network unreachable outside the domain
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 01:43:52 -0700
what happens if you ping an outside number,
like yahoo.com is 216.115.108.243
Good luck,
Jopa
~~~~`
"Giorgio Corani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> i've the following problem with my linux box : i'm able to get only the
> local network, and to read only the web pages belonging to my domain (my
> domain is elet.polimi.it, and i've no problem to read www.polimi.it).
> When i try to get, for example, www.google.com, i get the error message
> "network is unreachable".
> I checked the DNS and the gateway configuration, and they seem to be
> correct.
> What can i do?
> best regards, Giorgio
>
>
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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual Boot 98 + Redhat 6.2
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 20:02:47 +1100
Yes.
Stanislaw.
Tommy wrote:
> I want to add another drive to my 98 machine and install 6.2 on it. I have
> done this before and am not too worried about that.
>
> The question is; if I take the linux drive out can it do an FDISK /MBR on my
> 98 machine to remove the lilo stuff and get right back to where I was or
> will I have to reinstall 98 again?
>
> --
>
> Tommy Martin
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From: BB (Bill Boman)
Subject: Re: Newbie wants more readable fonts!
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 08:18:34 GMT
On Mon, 20 Nov 2000 17:27:08 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I'm a total Linux (and all *ix) newbie who's just installed Redhat 7.0
>Deluxe Workstation on my Windows PC, and I'm finding that the Netscape
>(4.75) non-menu fonts, e.g. in deja.com, are just about unreadable.
>They look like bitmap fonts being scaled up, and it's gruesome. My
>video resolution is 1024x768, BTW. How can I fix this? Thanks.
>
>Mike
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
A bit long-winded (hey welcome to Linux!) but Netscape and others
will be readable after you follow these instructions.
http://www.mindspring.com/~john_mcl/adding_fonts.html
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From: "Jonas Engmarker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: network unreachable outside the domain
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:33:38 +0100
Hi,
If you are using an internal ip range of private addresses you must use
masquerading for your internal net. Otherwise you won't be able to access
the internet.
Also check your default route.
/Jonas
"Jopa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:qHqS5.3654$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> what happens if you ping an outside number,
> like yahoo.com is 216.115.108.243
>
> Good luck,
> Jopa
> ~~~~`
>
>
>
> "Giorgio Corani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > i've the following problem with my linux box : i'm able to get only the
> > local network, and to read only the web pages belonging to my domain (my
> > domain is elet.polimi.it, and i've no problem to read www.polimi.it).
> > When i try to get, for example, www.google.com, i get the error message
> > "network is unreachable".
> > I checked the DNS and the gateway configuration, and they seem to be
> > correct.
> > What can i do?
> > best regards, Giorgio
> >
> >
>
>
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From: Giorgio Corani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: network unreachable outside the domain
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:51:46 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jopa wrote:
> what happens if you ping an outside number,
> like yahoo.com is 216.115.108.243
the result is :
ping 216.115.108.243
PING 216.115.108.243 (216.115.108.243): 56 octets data
sendto: Network is unreachable
ping: sent 64 octets to 216.115.108.243, ret=-1
sendto: Network is unreachable
I'm able to ping only the machines on the lan. Moreover, i think DNS are
correct (i checked them) . However outside addresses are unreacheables, even
with ping.
best regards, Giorgio
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From: Udo Wolter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ntpdate problem
Date: 21 Nov 2000 10:24:31 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello, I've set up ntpd on my desktop system and am trying to sync my
> laptop (and eventually others) off it using ntpdate. (Debian
> 2.2/potato). It appears that ntpdate does not like my ntpd, according
[...]
> 19 Nov 16:50:55 ntpdate[690]: no server suitable for synchronization
> found
This has happened to me too. The problem is that the ntpd-server needs
some time to really "get up". The server needs upto 30 minutes until
it can be reached from other clients.
Just wait after starting ntpd and try again. BTW, you don't need to
change the options that come in the standard config file (except you
want to). It should run out of the box.
Bye,
Udo
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
system engineer innominate AG
the linux architects
tel: +49-30-308806-0 fax: -698 http://www.innominate.com
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Subject: Re: Kernel Compilation Errors (was Re: "Warning: Pasting would not give a
valid pre-processing token")
From: Bernhard Mogens Ege <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:11:48 GMT
>>>>> "Rand" == Rand Simberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, 20 Nov 2000 09:33:17 GMT, in a place far, far away, Bernhard
> Mogens Ege <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
> such a way as to indicate that:
>>
>> On RedHat 7.0 you must change the Makefile to use kgcc instead of
>> gcc. Also, before you begin anything within the kernel source tree, do
>> a "make mrproper". Then you can do the "make xconfig" and stuff.
> OK, did all that. I edited Makefile and changed HOSTCC to "kgcc" and
> did the make mrproper first. I get exactly the same errors. Lots of
> warnings about not getting valid pre-processing tokens, and the same
> "badly punctuated paremeter list" errors at the end, with no vmlinuz.
Yes, well, if you looked just a little bit further into that very same
Makefile, you would find a CC := gcc line which is the one you need to
change to kgcc.
regards,
Bernhard Ege
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From: Eros Albertazzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: console on serial line and lilo
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 12:31:14 +0100
I have configured my PC (RH 7.0) to have the console on ttyS0 (I don't
have a video card)
as described in the Text-Terminal-HOWTO and serial-console.txt (kernel
doc).
Everthing works (boot messages , login prompt...) but I lost the lilo
prompt (i.e. the choice of booting kernel, I get the LILO string on the
terminal but it seems not to take input from keyboard, so after timeout
it boots the default)..
Am I missing something? Any hints?
Thanks.
--
Eros Albertazzi
CNR-LAMEL, Via P.Gobetti 101, 40129 Bologna, Italy
Tel: (+39)-051-639 9179
Fax: (+39)-051-639 9216
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ntpdate problem
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 12:37:58 +0100
On 21 Nov 2000, Udo Wolter wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hello, I've set up ntpd on my desktop system and am trying to sync my
> > laptop (and eventually others) off it using ntpdate. (Debian
> > 2.2/potato). It appears that ntpdate does not like my ntpd, according
>
> [...]
>
> > 19 Nov 16:50:55 ntpdate[690]: no server suitable for synchronization
> > found
>
> This has happened to me too. The problem is that the ntpd-server needs
> some time to really "get up". The server needs upto 30 minutes until
> it can be reached from other clients.
>
> Just wait after starting ntpd and try again. BTW, you don't need to
> change the options that come in the standard config file (except you
> want to). It should run out of the box.
You did remember to put an option to ntpdate? ntpdate does (unlike
ntpd) not use /etc/ntpd.conf (or whatever it is called in debian).
It should be called as 'ntpdate <server>'.
I have a ntp server running, and it uses ntpdate just fine immediately
after ntpd has started.
Rasmus B. Hansen
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Patte
Subject: video card
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 13:44:54 +0100
Bonjour,
Does anybody know if the video card: ATI Expert 2000 AGP 32 Mo works
under linux.
Thank you.
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From: Nick Ruisi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO doesn't install with TurboLinux Server
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 07:39:47 -0500
Whoa, before you re-install:
At the LILO: prompt, press the TAB key. This will list the available
boot images. Just type in the name of the image you wish to boot and
voila!
When you are interested in changing th default boot image, go look up
the man page for /etc/lilo.conf
- Nick Ruisi
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Gregorie)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: microemacs 4.00 port?
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 13:17:44 GMT
I just grabbed the curretn source archive for microEmacs from its home
site. However, there is no Linux subdirectory and sure enough, a quick
hack at setting one up failed to compile.
Has anybody ported microEmacs 4.00 to Linux?
If so, can you point me to a source for the files you had to modify,
please (estruct.h and makefile at least) and stop me re-inventing the
wheel.
TIA
--
gregorie | Martin Gregorie
@logica | Logica Ltd
com | +44 020 76379111
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From: "Pietro Pesci-Feltri C." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kppp / DNS suddenly won't resolve!!
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:45:48 +0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I don't know what suddenly happened, but web pages won't load anymore. I
> can log in the same internet connection I've been using all along, but now
> the DNS numbers won't resolve or something. My kppp connection never
> required manually putting in the DNS numbers before. I've tried manually
> putting them in, but they still aren't being accepted. Kppp used to
> automatically put the DNS numbers in the /etc/resolv.conf file depending
> on which ISP I'd tell it to use, but everything's gone to poop now. I
> tried deleting the /etc/resolv.conf file and putting a new one in with
> correct permissions, but no cigar. I'm using Linux Mandrake 6.0.
>
> Help IS appreciated!
>
> Chip Rose.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
I have the same problem, I think that your default router is not
properly configured (may be a bug in kppp). Get a terminal and type
"route", if the default router not appear or default is not the ISP IP
address machine, your packets are going by a wrong way. I'm trying to
set default router but don;t know at this moment.
Pietro
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rand Simberg)
Subject: Re: Kernel Compilation Errors (was Re: "Warning: Pasting would not give a
valid pre-processing token")
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 13:37:18 GMT
On Tue, 21 Nov 2000 11:11:48 GMT, in a place far, far away, Bernhard
Mogens Ege <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:
>>>>>> "Rand" == Rand Simberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> On Mon, 20 Nov 2000 09:33:17 GMT, in a place far, far away, Bernhard
>> Mogens Ege <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
>> such a way as to indicate that:
>
>>>
>>> On RedHat 7.0 you must change the Makefile to use kgcc instead of
>>> gcc. Also, before you begin anything within the kernel source tree, do
>>> a "make mrproper". Then you can do the "make xconfig" and stuff.
>
>> OK, did all that. I edited Makefile and changed HOSTCC to "kgcc" and
>> did the make mrproper first. I get exactly the same errors. Lots of
>> warnings about not getting valid pre-processing tokens, and the same
>> "badly punctuated paremeter list" errors at the end, with no vmlinuz.
>
>Yes, well, if you looked just a little bit further into that very same
>Makefile, you would find a CC := gcc line which is the one you need to
>change to kgcc.
I did a vi pattern match for gcc in the file, and only found the one.
I also grepped the whole source tree, and only found one other
(non-comment) occurrence.
But I'll take one more look (sigh)...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Triple boot with NT in second drive
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 13:40:34 GMT
In article <8vbel2$cnl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Sebastian Palm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> BO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have a PC running Caldera Linux and Win98(dual boot) with "grub" as my
>> boot loader. Not iam planning to have another HDD with WinNT installed in
>> it. Could you please advice me how i can do that and whether to use "grub"
>> or NT as my boot loader.
>
> I'm replying to the original message, but I've read all of it
> so far.
>
> Am I right in assuming that you have a 10.5 GB hard drive
> intended for the system, a second hard drive for files,
> not currently installed, a CDROM, and enough knowledge of
> the previous Linux system to re-create it? If so, then:
>
> Ditch the idea of having Linux on the same drive as the rest.
> It won't work, for various reasons, most having to do with
> primary partitions. If you fiddle with it, it might work
> anyway, but it's not worth the hassle.
I believe you're mistaken. I'd say I'm certain you're mistaken, but your
claim is pretty vague, so you may have something in mind that's correct
but at variance with my understanding of the situation.
To elaborate, it's certainly possible to install Win98, WinNT, and Linux
all on one physical hard disk. Win98 and WinNT both require primary
partitions, but Linux does not, so by themselves, these three OSs don't
come anywhere near the 4-primary-partition limit of the standard x86
partition layout. In fact, I'm typing this on a system with WinMe,
Win2K, and two versions of Linux all booting from the first physical
disk. (I've also got OS/2 and BeOS installed on a second physical disk.)
Even if you installed Linux on a primary partition, that would not
exceed the allotment (1 each for Win98 and WinNT, 1 for Linux, and 1 for
an extended partition to hold the logical partitions you'd be likely to
want in such a configuration).
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: walt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,gnu.utils.help
Subject: Re: how do you say "edit lilo.conf; lilo" in GRUB?
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 05:47:14 -0800
Dan Jacobson wrote:
> In lilo I remember it was as easy as
> # edit lilo.conf
> # lilo
> # reboot
> to readjust it. In grub, the man page nor the info pages are upfront
> about what is the equivalent to lilo.conf. I surmise it is something like
> /boot/grub/menu1st...
You edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and then (one) equivalent
of running lilo is to start the grub shell (type 'grub'
as root).
When you see the grub prompt "grub> " you then tell
grub which is your root partition by typing
root (hd0,n)
where n is the number of your linux partition minus one,
e.g. if /dev/hda3 is your linux partition then n=2.
If you don't know which partition to use then just hit
the tab key at the spot where n should go and grub will
print a list of your partitions for you--nifty.
Once you have specified your root partition then you
actually install the boot sector by typing
setup (hd0)
Note that (hd0) refers to the master boot sector of
your first hard disk. If you want to install grub
on your root partition so you can use some other
master boot loader you would type something like this:
setup (hd0,2)
e.g. if your linux partition is /dev/hda3.
Grub should then tell you that the boot sector has
been written.
If the machine doesn't boot properly then you can
always re-edit the boot menu in real-time by hitting
'c' or 'e' at the grub boot prompt. It really is
a great tool--but I suggest you try installing grub
on a floppy disk before trying it on your hard disk.
That's the way I learned my way around grub--try it!
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