Linux-Setup Digest #104, Volume #20 Sat, 25 Nov 00 11:13:15 EST
Contents:
Re: Redhat 7.0 Install problems ( Black Dragon)
X resolutions on sun (Jason Wagner)
Re: remove lilo (Jason Wagner)
Re: Upgrading rpm (B. Hearn)
How to _un_install gcc? (Lukas Mensinck)
@home user...3c905c-tx NEEDS HELP!! (Archangel)
RAID under SUSE ("Gerald Ortner")
Re: Help, The x-servers in my package don't support my chipset (cfish)
Re: SuSe 7.0 installation monitor issues... (cfish)
Re: RH7.0 Kernel compile issues (Risto Toivola)
Re: playing video shuts down ppp ("David Cunningham")
Kernel update : which update to download ? (tqbfjotld)
RedHat 7 Sound setup ?? (yeti)
Re: Kernel update : which update to download ? (Steve Bradley)
Re: Could a few people here recommend... (Steve Bradley)
Re: Redhat 7.0 - failed to activate interface (Larry)
Deeper Secrets? ("philo")
Server Side Includes ("Tommy Martin")
Getting Back To Linux ("Martin")
USB support for SuSE 6.4 (Benji)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Black Dragon )
Subject: Re: Redhat 7.0 Install problems
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 06:13:51 GMT
On Thu, 23 Nov 2000 15:54:39 -0700 in comp.os.linux.setup,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> `David Maggiano' said:
: Black Dragon wrote:
:
: > On Tue, 21 Nov 2000 22:50:46 -0700 in comp.os.linux.setup,
: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> `qwest' said:
: >
: > : I scanned the last few hundred headers in this group and didn't see
: > : anything about this problem so here goes.
: > :
: > : I'm currently been running Redhat 6.2 for the last six months on an
: > : Athlon Motherboard manufactured by Asus. No problems worth mentioning
: > : until I tried to install 7.0. The installation never detected my network
: > : card. This was very repeatable over numerous installs. After the
: > : installation I tried to manually configure the card with both netcfg and
: > : through the command line with the route command --- no success!
: > :
: > : I also noticed that neither the server or the KDE desktop installations
: > : allowed me to set the default resolution of the video display. This was
: > : done quite nicely in 6.2.
: > :
: > : Just as a sanity check I tried re-installing 6.2 from scratch on a blank
: > : drive after this experience and everything worked fine the first time.
: >
: > Is there some feature in Red Hat 7 that's not in 6.* that is making you
: > want to upgrade, or are you upgrading just for the sake of upgrading?
: > The reason I ask, is that I've had RH 6.0 running all nice and happy for
: > over a year, and don't plan on upgrading until the hdd(s) it's on croaks,
: > and that's going to be a long while 'cause they are fairly new. It's the
: > time tested and proven theory of: "If It Ain't Broke, Don't Fix It!".
: > Besides, Red Hat 7.0 is very glitchy, so if ya' gotta' upgrade and want
: > to use Red Hat, you will be much better off waiting for 7.1, 7.2, or the
: > next version with the 2.4 kernel and using 6.2 in the mean time.
: Well since you asked. The reason I wanted to install 7.0 is I'm writing a book
: on ecommerce development with Open Source Tools. The book will be published by
: Addison Wesley last year. The book features ecommerce development on linux
: based platforms using Mysql. Redhat 7 now includes MySQL so I just wanted to
: see how the installation went right out of the box.
:
: Obviously I'll be sticking with 6.2 for a while till Redhat gets this new
: version sorted out.
Well, you have a legitimate reason to upgrade, but in my opinion, you're doing
the right thing by sticking it out with 6.2 for another few months. I was cured
of the "upgradeitis" disease many years ago, and life has been *allot* simpler
since. :-)
: Thanks for the feedback!
You're welcome!
--
Black Dragon
Sign The Linux Driver Petition:
http://www.libralinux.com/petition.english.html
------------------------------
From: Jason Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: X resolutions on sun
Date: 25 Nov 2000 07:05:16 GMT
Help!
I have a Cg3 and a Sun monitor, the combination supports 1152x900@76. I
have set the output device in the prom accordingly, but Xconfigurator
still autodetects 1024x768. How can I force X in RH 6.2 to 1152x900@76 on
a Sun/CG3?
Thanks!
Jason
------------------------------
From: Jason Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: remove lilo
Date: 25 Nov 2000 07:31:50 GMT
do a search for delpart.exe and use it.
fdisk /mbr *should* work but delpart will force the issue.
: On Sat, 25 Nov 2000 04:11:25 GMT in comp.os.linux.setup,
: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> `Willie Chan' said:
: : " Black Dragon " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
: : news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
: : >
: : > On Sat, 25 Nov 2000 03:36:35 GMT in comp.os.linux.setup,
: : > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> `Willie Chan' said:
: : >
: : >
: : > : how to remove lilo from mbr?
: : > : tried using fdisk /mbr and nothing happen!
: : > : I mean no such extension in my fdisk...
: : >
: : >
: : > Msdos fdisk? "/mbr" is an undocumented option.
:
: : but really..nothing happen...after I type...
: Nothing happened? As in you got the "Lilo" prompt when re-booting after
: running fdisk /mbr? fdisk /mbr does not output anything to the screen if
: I recall correctly, it just re-writes the boot record. Is it possible that
: you have more than one bootable partition? I'm not sure how to handle those
: situations with dos fdisk, if it's even possible.
: --
: Black Dragon
: Sign The Linux Driver Petition:
: http://www.libralinux.com/petition.english.html
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B. Hearn)
Subject: Re: Upgrading rpm
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 07:31:59 GMT
On Thu, 23 Nov 2000 23:01:05 -0600, "David .."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>What are the error messages that you are getting? If you can post what
>is happening then it will help to fix the problem. What dependencies is
>it calling for?
OK David, This is a bit earlier than expected.
SuSE 6.2 - fresh installation .....
Running RPM 3.0.5 (RPM'd upgrade of the SuSE supplied 3.0.3)
Attempting to up it to RPM 4 (no -force, no -nodeps at this stage)
error: failed dependencies:
Reported 'my checking if ...
popt is needed by rpm-4.0-7x '/usr/lib/rpm/rpmpopt
glibc >= 2.1.92 is needed by rpm-4.0-7x 'none
db1 = 1.85 is needed by rpm-4.0-7x 'none
libbz2.so.1 is needed by rpm-4.0-7x 'libbz2.a but no .so
libdb-3.1.so is needed by rpm-4.0-7x 'libdb.so.3 (so need?)
libpopt.so.0 is needed by rpm-4.0-7x 'none
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.3) is needed by rpm-4.0-7x ' libc.so.6 exists in
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by rpm-4.0-7x ' /usr/lib/libc.so.6
patch < 2.5 conflicts with rpm-4.0-7x 'Too mysterious for me
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lukas Mensinck)
Subject: How to _un_install gcc?
Date: 25 Nov 2000 07:47:01 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hey Group.
I'm currently thinking about to build a linux firewall.
My problem is, I have to use a gcc during installation but
I will remomve this from th machine after installation
of all progs is done.
While reading the documentation I can't find informations
how to do this.
Is there anybody who can give me some advise or sources of
information
Thanks
Lukas
------------------------------
From: Archangel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: @home user...3c905c-tx NEEDS HELP!!
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 08:06:46 GMT
I've tried many times to get my baby connected to the net with
Linux..BeOs...etc....and I cannot....for some reason it doesn't
connect...what do I need to do....help will be much appreciated:)
In Christ
Jose
------------------------------
From: "Gerald Ortner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RAID under SUSE
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 09:54:47 +0100
hi,
does somebody know how to install a software raid under SUSE7?
thanks for your help
gerald
------------------------------
From: cfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help, The x-servers in my package don't support my chipset
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 09:07:39 GMT
these are supported in XFree 4.x and Intel has also provided driver
for them.
I have used it last summer using standard SVGA server XFree 3.x . it
works but with lots of problems.
....RTFM
On 24 Nov 2000 19:25:55 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pailumfighter)
wrote:
>I have the Debian distribution of Linux, I want to install X but none of the
>x-servers that were provided support my graphics chipset, which is:
>
>Intel(R) 810e graphics driver (DC133 FSB133) PV 2.1
>
>Thank you for any help you can provide me with.
>
------------------------------
From: cfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SuSe 7.0 installation monitor issues...
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 09:10:48 GMT
ok. forget about SuSE graphical installation. you should be able to
somehow use a text mode installation. finished installing and come
back to fix X. using XF86Setup.
On Thu, 23 Nov 2000 23:12:58 -0500, "John D. Marinuzzi"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello,
>
> I am attempting to setup SuSe7.0 on my system having all types of
>problems. First off the installation screen is somewhat jumbled. I can
>read it, but it isn't clear (certainly not like shown in the setup book).
>The when I get to monitor setup it cannot automatically detect it. So fine,
>I attempt to manually enter the synch ranges listed in the monitor book, but
>get absolutely nothing after that screen. I have tried with manually
>entering the values, I have tried with VESA, I can not find the monitor
>itself in the list so I can't try it that way, I have tried Sony listings
>(see below). But it is getting old having to install the packages I want to
>get to that screen and get messed up again. Any suggestions? The monitor I
>have is a Gateway 2000 Vivitron CPD-GF200 (which I believe was made by
>Sony).
>
>Thank you in advance,
>
>NUZZI
>
------------------------------
From: Risto Toivola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH7.0 Kernel compile issues
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 12:07:43 +0200
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
==============8BE968E9A5C01FFEB141E7FF
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I didn't take a look at the make file, so I'm not sure if this works for all
cases, but a simple CC=kgcc and export CC did the trick for me.
I'd try that before hacking the makefile. If it doesn't help, then edit
the makefile to make sure kgcc is invoked.
R(o)isto
Andrzej Nowak wrote:
> none <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Does anybody know how to fix the mess that shipped with RH7.0? I cannot
> > compile Kernels or most programs. Anyway to change the default compiler?
> > Or even (what a big kludge) arguments to pass during ./configure and
> > make?
>
> > Thank you for any help.
> > P.S. Ignore the address - that lets the spammers know how I feel.
>
> It's a common problem and I don't know how come RedHat still ships
> products with this kind of thing.
> You need to edit the kernel's Makefile and replace gcc and cc with kgcc
> You will also need to remove (or move) gcc and cc
> and make symlinks gcc->kgcc and cc->kgcc
> It solved the problem for me and as far as I know for other people too.
>
> +e
==============8BE968E9A5C01FFEB141E7FF
Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii;
name="risto.toivola.vcf"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Description: Card for Risto Toivola
Content-Disposition: attachment;
filename="risto.toivola.vcf"
begin:vcard
n:Toivola;Risto
tel;cell:+358-40-530 2728
x-mozilla-html:FALSE
org:Osaamo Oy
adr:;;Kyl�nvanhimmantie 22 B 4;Helsinki;;00640;Finland
version:2.1
email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
fn:Risto Toivola
end:vcard
==============8BE968E9A5C01FFEB141E7FF==
------------------------------
From: "David Cunningham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: playing video shuts down ppp
Date: 25 Nov 2000 12:03:35 GMT
Are you using a "winmodem"? Certain kinds of modems lack a built in UART
chip. The analog wave conversion ADC and UART functions are handed over to
the drivers for the modem. Unfortunately this forces the CPU to perform
this conversion so that you can send and receive data over the modem. Mpeg
video is a *very* CPU intensive operation. It's possible that the MPEG
decompression burns up so much CPU time that there's precious little CPU
left over to decode the modem signals so modem communications slow way down.
This used to happen to me. If you can confirm you are in fact running a
winmodem, well you'll really need to upgrade your modem to fix this issue.
--
<|>/\\/|<|>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> hi
>
> i regularly watch .mpg and .rm movies on linux while surfing the net.
> i've noticed that when watching movies, i receive almost no data from my
> ppp interface. i stop playing the movies, and i start receiving data as
> normal. i have a dial up account, using ppp-2.3.11 and interface
> /dev/ppp0.
>
> any ideas what the problem could be?
> ali
>
------------------------------
From: tqbfjotld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel update : which update to download ?
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 13:09:06 GMT
I am using RH 6.1 with kernel 2.2.12.
I want to upgrade to kernel 2.2.17, the latest stable release.
I downloaded it from www.kernel.org.
I wonder if I can use the www.kernel.org version or if I must download a
www.redhat.com version.
Is there any difference between kernel from www.kernel.org and kernel
from www.redhat.com ?
In fact, I wonder if the kernel is independent from the Linux
distribution .
Can you help ?
Thanks.
------------------------------
From: yeti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RedHat 7 Sound setup ??
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 08:16:11 -0500
My RedHat 7.0 sound setup has developed a weird
problem recently. Whenever I play an audio cd,
mp3, realaudio clip the volume is very low.
However, if I go into, say, xmixer and tweak the
main volume control the sound plays at the correct
volume for about two seconds then slowly fades
back to a barely audible level.
Any suggestions as to what this might be?
------------------------------
From: Steve Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel update : which update to download ?
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 13:22:16 GMT
tqbfjotld wrote:
> I am using RH 6.1 with kernel 2.2.12.
>
> I want to upgrade to kernel 2.2.17, the latest stable release.
>
> I downloaded it from www.kernel.org.
>
> I wonder if I can use the www.kernel.org version or if I must download a
> www.redhat.com version.
>
> Is there any difference between kernel from www.kernel.org and kernel
> from www.redhat.com ?
>
> In fact, I wonder if the kernel is independent from the Linux
> distribution .
I've always downloaded my kernel updates directly from kernel.org, although
RH usually makes them available in RPM format on their ftp site, I prefer
not to use them.
There should not be any significant difference between a Redhat supplied
kernel and a generic one. I have personally never had any problems, and
I've "upgraded" through the 2.2.17 kernel and now into the 2.4.x kernels.
I'm on RH6.2 (well, I was until I updated all the software...)
--
Steve Bradley
Registered Linux User#187404
(register at www.linuxcounter.org)
ICQ#19864616
------------------------------
From: Steve Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Could a few people here recommend...
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 13:28:35 GMT
John D. Marinuzzi wrote:
> what kind of 17 inch monitor I should purchase to get this f***ing thing
> working? I would like to get a reasonably priced good monitor that i can
> use with SuSE 7.0, being it doesn't work with mine and nobody knows why.
>
> Thank You,
>
> NUZZI
Monitors are such a personal choice....you've really got to go out and look
at them to see what pleases your eye, but when I was actively doing sales,
I got a lot of customer satisfaction out of the
1. NEC 17" (can't remember the model number to save myself, but I could
come up with it if you really need it) "flat" screen - it's a very flat
monitor, good color, good resolution.
2. The Sony Trinitron, another flat, bright monitor. Little more
expensive, but the comments were largely that it was worth it.
Personally, with the price of 19" monitors coming down so much, I settled
on an Optiquest V95, mostly flat screen, excellent color, short-depth.
'bout $400.
--
Steve Bradley
Registered Linux User#187404
(register at www.linuxcounter.org)
ICQ#19864616
------------------------------
From: Larry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.ppp
Subject: Re: Redhat 7.0 - failed to activate interface
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 09:50:32 -0500
Stephen Franklin wrote:
> After installing RH 7.0 my modem won't respond from the RH PPP dialer.
> After starting the program and telling it to connect an error comes
> saying '="failure to activate interface". I can go into minicom and that
> program sees the modem and will call out and connect just fine. The
> modem worked OK in RH 6.2 and Caldera eDesktop 2.4.
>
> What do I need to do to get this working? Thanks, Stephen.
I'm having the exact same problem with RH7...
>From a fresh reboot, if I try to ping out via an xterm window, nothing
happens.
But if I hit the RH PPP Dialer Applet, it fails saying that it can't
activate the interface. (Always fails)... Then when I trying pinging out
from the xterm window again, it autoactivates PPP(dialup)... ???
------------------------------
From: "philo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Deeper Secrets?
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 09:24:31 -0600
When I originally installed Linux back in the ancient days
of 1999 lilo would not boot past the 1024th cyl
so i partitioned my dual boot system as:
windows (hda1)
linux (hda 5,6,7)
windows (hda ,8,9,10,11)
for a number of reasons, i backed everything up
and recently repartioned as:
windows (hda1,5,6,7)
linux (hda8,9 ,10)
now my drive is in order but i have to use a boot floppy
to get to linux.
i've tried to install the newer version of lilo and i've even triedgrub
without
any success and i'm thinking about maybe just going with
grub.
could anyone possibly offer which would be best for
a person like myself with very limited computer knowledge.(i was using a 60
year old typewriter until last year) :)
if i went with grub...and go to the install portion... would i install it
on hd0 ? it would not install
there for some reason
i know the designations are a bit different with grub.
i have read the faq but require more clarity.
thanks!
--
Philo
website : www.plazaearth.com/philo
dos win (versions 1 -9x) linux os/2 cp/m nde beos
------------------------------
From: "Tommy Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Server Side Includes
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 09:51:34 -0600
Anyone know how to turn on SSI in RH 6.2 in Apache. It apparently must be
off by default.
Thanks in advance.
Tommy
------------------------------
From: "Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Getting Back To Linux
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 16:04:41 -0000
SYNOPSIS
When I try to boot into Linux on hda2, a lot of messages are
displayed, as normal, but the boot finishes with:
VFS: Cannot open root device 03:05
Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:05
MY CURRENT SYSTEM (WITH STATUS)
This is going to be decomissioned and used for storage,
but is still usable:
sda 4.3 GB hard disk
sda1 Windows 98
sda2 <sda5 sda6 sda7 sda8 sda9> Linux-Mandrake 7.1
This contains the Linux I can't access:
hda 30 GB hard disk
hda1 Windows Me
hda2 <hda5 hda6 hda7 hda8> Linux-Mandrake 7.1 where:
hda5 /
hda6 /usr
hda7 /root
hda8 swap
Other hardware
hdc CD ReWriter
hdd LS-120 drive
scd0 CD-ROM
BACKGROUND NOTES
The Linux distribution is from the downloaded Linux-Mandrake 7.1
ISO images (two CDs: Installation Disc and Extension Disc).
When I installed Linux-Mandrake from these, it gave an error
message when I tried to create a boot floppy. The boot floppy
it did partially create is useless.
WHAT HAPPENED
I've just installed a CD rewriter (hdc). This worked fine in both Windows
Me and Linux, though X-CD-Roast was pretty frightening with its
insistence on specifiying a partition for the ripped files. I may have
made a mistake when choosing a partition.
REMEDIAL ACTION I'VE ATTEMPTED
Using the Linux-Mandrake installation I was about to decomission
(on sda2), I tried to access my new Linux-Mandrake installation
on hda2 with the command:
mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/new
but I get the message "/dev/hda6 is not a block device" (or similar).
I tried each of the non-Windows LILO options (linux, failsafe,
windows, windows2, floppy) but none worked.
I do have a bootable disk from an old installation (1998, S.u.S.E.
5.2) which I used on sda2 to recover LILO by selecting the option
"boot from installed system" but if I type in hda2 it can't see
it, and probably wouldn't be much point if I could, anyway, as
I'd still get the same kernel panic.
CALL FOR HELP
Needless to say, I'd be extremely grateful for any assistance. I'm having
to use Windows Me to send this :-( I'm sure there's a relatively easy
way to ger around this - at least, I hope there is!
I'm sure all my data are still on my Linux partitions on hda2, I just
need to to find the door that will let me get to them.
I blame X-CD-Roast for this.
Martin
------------------------------
From: Benji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: USB support for SuSE 6.4
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 11:08:04 -0500
I have the above linux version. The kernel is 2.2.14. I am new to
linux and needed to see if I could use my USB card in the OS. When I
installed linux I had mouse support with USB but when the install was
done the mouse would not work. When the system starts up one of the
command lines writes USB device DONE. I also have a Logitech Quickcam
that I need software for as well to do something similar to NetMeeting.
Thanks,
Benji DeBerry
------------------------------
** FOR YOUR REFERENCE **
The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests
to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is:
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.setup) via:
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
ftp.funet.fi pub/Linux
tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux
sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux
End of Linux-Setup Digest
******************************
