Linux-Setup Digest #108, Volume #20 Sun, 26 Nov 00 02:13:09 EST
Contents:
why /dev/hdc ?? ("steveFarris")
Re: Wooooo Hooooo! Got it!!!!!! (bob_more)
Re: swap ("Brent Shifley")
Re: Mandrake 7.2 question (Falcon)
Linux mnt floppy (simon)
Re: linux.debian.usrs newsgroup seems to be inactive... (Ionut Georgescu)
Re: Server Side Includes ("Tommy Martin")
Can I dual boot Red Hat Linux 6.2 and Windows 2000? ("Cerebrum")
Re: How do you mix distros, eg Debian & RedHat RPM's, or can you?? (Ionut Georgescu)
wide network configuration (Ionut Georgescu)
Re: RH7.0 Kernel compile issues (none)
Re: Keymap trivia (Michael V. Ferranti)
Re: How to _un_install gcc? (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Stuck at LI, How to uninstall LILO? (Glitch)
Re: Linux mnt floppy (Keith)
Re: lilo doesn't install on large disk with W2K... (Fred Richards)
Re: why /dev/hdc ?? (Mark W. Stroberg)
Re: wide network configuration ("MNJP")
Re: Wooooo Hooooo! Got it!!!!!! ("The infamous \"Brian\"")
Re: lilo doesn't install on large disk with W2K... ("The infamous \"Brian\"")
Help! 3Com 3CCFE575CT under Redhat 7.0, not recognized ("Clayton Tang")
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From: "steveFarris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: why /dev/hdc ??
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 22:15:52 -0500
Why does my hard drive show up as /dev/hdc instead of /dev/hda...is it the
physical position on the ribbon cable or jumper settings...?
--
original guitar music at
---->http://www.mindspring.com/~nlymbo
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Subject: Re: Wooooo Hooooo! Got it!!!!!!
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.hardware
From: bob_more <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 22:14:15 -0500
"The infamous \"Brian\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hey Again!
The infamous "Brian" wrote in message ...
>There must be a way!
>I believe it has more to do with W2K than problem with
>+1024 cyls. Lilo is unable to find W2K boot app.
I got it!
It was a W2K thing after all! "lilo" couldn't find the the fscking W2K
bootloader so would bail!
What I did was use liloconfig and did a manual install WITHOUT W2K, just
Linux. It installed without a problem! I rebooted and was faced with a
single "lilo" prompt so hit <enter> and Linux loaded, no problem!
Next, got W98 emergency disk and booted that, then ran "C:\fdisk /mbr" an=
d
rebooted, this time straight into W2K.
Next, boot into Linux with boot floppy and reran liloconfig and selected
simple and BANGO - it installed.
Now when I boot it shows that cool little boot graphic where you can sele=
ct
DOS or Linux with the cursor keys and <enter>.
I bet Bill and his buddies worked months to foul up the MBR so it wouldn'=
t
work - Bastards!
Now I can run identical services on both installs and see what's what! Th=
ose
Redmond Bastards!
Oh well; All's well that ends well.
Best regards,
Brian
Not to discourage you, but fdisk /mbr is an old windows trick, and I'll a=
dd my
own, when in doubt and ya wanna be sure, I use fdisk /mbr and then a low
leveler called maxllf which kills all partitions on a hard disk, if you w=
ant a
clean disk to install on. extreme but it works. Otherwise partition magic=
is
your friend.
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From: "Brent Shifley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: swap
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 03:18:16 GMT
Never more than 128MB according to SuSE 6.4 manual
"Willie Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:ttGT5.571$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> how much swap should I need?
>
> any web link to such info...
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Falcon)
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.2 question
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 03:15:22 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>Has anyone out there use the "update" install option to update a system
>running Mandrake 7.0? I usually do a fresh install but am feeling lazy
>and will update if no one has had a bad experience.
>
I tried using the updgrade to go from 7.0 to 7.2. It wouldn't let me select
the packages to upgrade and had several other problems. When I finnally got
through it, it was so messed up I had to reinstall the whole thing. It came up
with a different x-windows login screen (anyone know where to set that?) and
it wouldn't start kde even when I told it to login using that. It took several
tries to get it to let me select the packages to install.
Now I still haven't gotten the networking to work. The loopback won't work
and I haven't gotten the isa network card working again. I also don't have the
matrix screensaver anymore. Next time I'm going to upgrade it manually
(replacing each package).
Help the Big Cats: http://bigcats.care2.com/i?p=709097341
Save the Rainforest: http://rainforest.care2.com/i?p=383616003
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From: simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux mnt floppy
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 03:30:10 -0000
Dear all,
I have a problem with my fstab file. I cant seem to mnt the 'fd0'.
I get a "mount successfull" but cant access any of the files on the disk.
Is this because I have only been using a dos format disk or is this because
i have tried deleting the entry but in linuxconf i cant seem to add the new
entry into the fstab file.
Any ideas?
Si.
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From: Ionut Georgescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux.debian.usrs newsgroup seems to be inactive...
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 04:49:03 +0100
:
>
> flex recommends gcc
> gcc doesn't seem to be available
Hi,
I assume you use apt in dselect as get method. In this case you need to
be sure you have defined all possible package sources in
/etc/apt/sources.list . Run then:
apt-get update
dselect or apt-get dist-upgrade or
apt-get install the_package_you_want
Good Luck!
Johnny
PS Take a look on www.debianplanet.org and www.debian.org for docs and
tips about the debian package system.
--
***************
* Ionut Georgescu
* http://www.physik.tu-cottbus.de/~george/
* ICQ: 38973105
* "In Windows you can do everything Microsoft wants you to do; in Unix
you
* can do anything the computer is able to do."
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From: "Tommy Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Server Side Includes
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 22:00:15 -0600
Thanks... That was a big help. Got it working now.
Tommy
"Mark Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tommy Martin) wrote in
> <YaRT5.39769$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >Anyone know how to turn on SSI in RH 6.2 in Apache. It apparently must be
> >off by default.
> >
> >Thanks in advance.
> >
> >Tommy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> A couple of things have to happen...and they could happen in different
> ways.
>
> In srm.conf there needs to be an AddHandler server-parsed statement.
> Possibly...
>
> AddHandler server-parsed .shtml
>
> This means that only files with the .shtml extentions will be server
parsed
> for ssi statements. It could very well be...
>
> AddHandler server-parsed .html
>
> Then all files ending in .html will be parsed. Big load on a web server
> though.
>
> Then the directories need to have Options statements, either in httpd.conf
> or access.conf...(or have the .htaccess allowed)
>
> <Directory / >
> Options Includes
> [other things]
> </Directory>
>
> You also needs the modules included in the httpd.conf
>
> If you have virtual servers the Virtual host directives may have
additional
> Options or Overrides....
>
> <VirtualHost foo.com>
> Options Includes or Overrides
> [other stuff]
> </VirtualHost>
>
> If Options Overrides are enabled then you may need an .htaccess file in
> each folder that you want to do ssi with the line...
>
> Options Includes
>
>
> Not all that involved but the fact that there are several different ways
to
> do it, and one way could override the other makes it confusing. Start with
> the modules...be sure they are there. See what extention is required by
the
> server-parsed directive, then make sure the directory allows it. Then use
> the right extention on the file you want parsed.
>
> Good luck
> Mark
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From: "Cerebrum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can I dual boot Red Hat Linux 6.2 and Windows 2000?
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 11:56:06 +0800
Hello!
I want to ask about the linux setup question.
My computer is now running Windows 2000 Professional (NTFS),
can I install Red Hat Linux 6.2 to my computer and dual boot with
Windows 2000 Professional?
Since my Windows 2000 is NTFS, not FAT32, so can I dual boot
by the LILO?
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From: Ionut Georgescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do you mix distros, eg Debian & RedHat RPM's, or can you??
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 04:58:25 +0100
DTi4565459 wrote:
>
> I am trying to get a Debian install up on a Mitsubishi Laptop, and
> I've succeeded with kernal, modules, and base from floppies.
> Also, I'm running my external PCMCIA CDROM. But attempts
> to install X, etc from Reilly Debian CDROM keep failing. I have
> many disks with the programs in RPM, but Debian didn't come
> with RPM executable. So, my question is How to download
> source code for RPM and compile it to work.
If you want to install RPM's or other packages on debian than use alien.
alien transforms all these packages into deb files and than you can use
dpkg -i to install them. You really DON'T need to compile any package
again. I don't know if alien is default on debian, but you can find it
for sure on your debian cd.
If you ever need to compile a package, then use 'apt-get source package'
to get the source and the debian confs. Run debuild in the package's
directory and you'll get the software as debs -> dpkg -i.
It good thing to do is to check out the debian irc support channel.
Johnny
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***************
* Ionut Georgescu
* http://www.physik.tu-cottbus.de/~george/
* ICQ: 38973105
* "In Windows you can do everything Microsoft wants you to do; in Unix
you
* can do anything the computer is able to do."
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From: Ionut Georgescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: wide network configuration
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 05:01:04 +0100
Hi,
The title is probably not the best I could find, but here is the problem:
a network of about 20 (linux) computers is given. With 2 or three
exceptions, they all must have exactly the same software and
configuration. Installing new software or changing their configuration
must not require ssh-ing into each box. Is there any smart tool for this ?
Thanks a lot,
Johnny
PS What if the cluster weren't homogeneous anymore (Linux+Irix+...)
***************
* Ionut Georgescu
* http://www.physik.tu-cottbus.de/~george/
* ICQ: 38973105
* "In Windows you can do everything Microsoft wants you to do; in Unix you
* can do anything the computer is able to do."
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From: none <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH7.0 Kernel compile issues
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 20:12:03 -0800
I was thinking for a minute and wondered if I could rpm -e gcc and rpm
-Uvh the old RH6.2 gcc, any ideas if this works? I will try tomorrow and
find out.
Risto Toivola wrote:
>
> I didn't take a look at the make file, so I'm not sure if this works for all
> cases, but a simple CC=kgcc and export CC did the trick for me.
> I'd try that before hacking the makefile. If it doesn't help, then edit
> the makefile to make sure kgcc is invoked.
>
> R(o)isto
>
> Andrzej Nowak wrote:
>
> > none <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Does anybody know how to fix the mess that shipped with RH7.0? I cannot
> > > compile Kernels or most programs. Anyway to change the default compiler?
> > > Or even (what a big kludge) arguments to pass during ./configure and
> > > make?
> >
> > > Thank you for any help.
> > > P.S. Ignore the address - that lets the spammers know how I feel.
> >
> > It's a common problem and I don't know how come RedHat still ships
> > products with this kind of thing.
> > You need to edit the kernel's Makefile and replace gcc and cc with kgcc
> > You will also need to remove (or move) gcc and cc
> > and make symlinks gcc->kgcc and cc->kgcc
> > It solved the problem for me and as far as I know for other people too.
> >
> > +e
>
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From: Michael V. Ferranti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Keymap trivia
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 04:18:03 +0000
And Alessandro Baretta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spoke thusly:
>"loadkeys us"
>Is there nothing that simple?
RH6.2? I think keyboard selection is one of the options in the "setup"
command...
-- Michael V. Ferranti [blades&inreach*com]
Warning: The Surgeon General has deemed that excessive displays of warning
labels and public service announcements produce stress and shortens lives.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: How to _un_install gcc?
Date: 25 Nov 2000 23:22:28 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Lukas Mensinck wrote:
> I have to use a gcc during installation but
> I will remomve this from the machine after installation
> of all progs is done.
> While reading the documentation I can't find informations
> how to do this.
It depends on how you are installing gcc. How are you doing that?
--
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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 23:36:10 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Stuck at LI, How to uninstall LILO?
laurieapril wrote:
>
> I cannot boot to windows or linux without a floppy.and I get LI when i
> try. lilo is
> on my hard drive and linux is in gigs 16 to 20. I can boot fine from a
> floppy to linux. I must get rid of
> lilo off my
> hda. to get to windows again. I do not have a floppy to boot to
> windows.How do I do it?
if you don't have a Windows boot disk you won't be able to do it. Using
a windows boot disk you run 'fdisk /mbr' to put a microsoft boot record
into the MBR so that Dos/windows will load.
> I tried
> uninstalling lilo as super user from the console. i do not know linux
> command
> line comands.
i believe lilo has an uninstall switch. /sbin/lilo /u
that will put back your original configuration, man lilo should give
more info....u DO know about the man pages don't you??
> (so I do not know how to save changes when I change files.
> Any ideas? I do not want to reinstall windows because there is
> information on my hard drive and I do not want to lose it.
> Nobody told me linux had to be in the first few gigs before I installed
> lilo.
your installation program should have given you warnings ( i forget what
the actual message is) that your boot partition was too far past the
beginning of the disk to work. Didn't you get those warnings? They
should appear when you are partitioning your drive.
the new version of LILO no longer has the 1024th cylinder limit so your
problem is nonexistent with LILO v21.x+
> I tried to change the config lilo file but didn't know how to save
> the changes.
i think you should learn how to do something before you jump into it. I
can't tell you how to save a file b/c it depends on which editor you
were using.
> Can I configure it to nutralize the lilo boot loader if I
> cannot remove it? Brian White
you can issue the /sbin/lilo /u command which should revert your MBR
back to how it was before u installed Linux, or if you get a windows
boot disk (which you should already have considering you need it to boot
when u have to reinstall Windows (if it's so messed up u can't boot
anymore of course)) you can just boot with that and enter the command i
gave above.
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From: Keith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux mnt floppy
Reply-To: "Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 05:41:27 GMT
On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 03:30:10 -0000, simon
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Is this because I have only been using a dos format disk or is this because
>i have tried deleting the entry but in linuxconf i cant seem to add the new
>entry into the fstab file.
>
>Any ideas?
If it is a msdos formatted disk then you can use mtools, see man mtools,
otherwise mount with
mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy | cd mnt/floppy | ls
Note that the directory /mnt/floppy must exist to use this.
if you run X with gnome check out MToolsFM @ http://freshmeat.net
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From: Fred Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: lilo doesn't install on large disk with W2K...
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 05:54:42 GMT
My /etc/lilo.conf has a "lba32" option in the beginning of it (without
quotes) and says something to the effect of allowing it to work on larger
hard drives. I have a 15 gig and I don't know whether this was a lilo
limitation or a bios limitation (I do happen to have a newer bios). I am
almost positive that is the exact wording, but when I boot back into Slack,
I can paste the exact option/remarks if you would like.
The infamous \"Brian\" wrote:
> Installed Slackware Current on 30 gig Maxtor /dev/hda4 (last 5 gig) and
> can't lilo to install.
>
> Anybody have any idea what the problem is?
>
> Is lilo just broke and can't get up?
>
> Is it time for a new bootloader?
>
> Brian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark W. Stroberg)
Subject: Re: why /dev/hdc ??
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 06:19:07 GMT
I can't be sure but I suspect your hard drive is connected as the
master device on the secondary IDE channel. Modern BIOSes are able to
boot even from the secondary channel. The typical configuration is to
have one or two hard drives on the primary channel, and the CD-ROM and
possibly a ZIP or LS-120 drive on the secondary channel. If you have
nothing on the primary channel just switch the IDE cable that connects
your drive to the primary channel connector on the motherboard. If
your CD-ROM drive is already on the primary channel, just switch the
two cable connections on the motherboard. Of course this would not
harm a DOS/Windows installation but if you did this it might mess up
your fstab mount table in Linux. You would then have to reinstall
Linux probably.
Mark W. Stroberg
On Sat, 25 Nov 2000 22:15:52 -0500, "steveFarris"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Why does my hard drive show up as /dev/hdc instead of /dev/hda...is it the
>physical position on the ribbon cable or jumper settings...?
>
>--
>original guitar music at
> ---->http://www.mindspring.com/~nlymbo
>
>
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From: "MNJP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: wide network configuration
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 06:33:40 GMT
Maybe all of their software (less the OS - possibly even the OS but I don't
know how) could be mounted via NFS from a single machine. Therefore change
somethng on that machine, changes on all of them.
Also you might be interested in a clustering solution. An example would be
at http://www.scyld.com
"Ionut Georgescu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> The title is probably not the best I could find, but here is the problem:
>
> a network of about 20 (linux) computers is given. With 2 or three
> exceptions, they all must have exactly the same software and
> configuration. Installing new software or changing their configuration
> must not require ssh-ing into each box. Is there any smart tool for this ?
>
> Thanks a lot,
> Johnny
>
> PS What if the cluster weren't homogeneous anymore (Linux+Irix+...)
>
> ***************
> * Ionut Georgescu
> * http://www.physik.tu-cottbus.de/~george/
> * ICQ: 38973105
> * "In Windows you can do everything Microsoft wants you to do; in Unix you
> * can do anything the computer is able to do."
>
>
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From: "The infamous \"Brian\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Wooooo Hooooo! Got it!!!!!!
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 06:39:34 GMT
Hi Bob:
bob_more wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>"The infamous \"Brian\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Next, got W98 emergency disk and booted that, then ran
>>"C:\fdisk /mbr" and rebooted, this time straight into W2K.
>>Next, boot into Linux with boot floppy and reran liloconfig
>>and selected simple and BANGO - it installed.
>>Now when I boot it shows that cool little boot graphic where
>>you can select DOS or Linux with the cursor keys and <enter>.
>>I bet Bill and his buddies worked months to foul up the MBR
>>so it wouldn't work - Bastards!
>>Now I can run identical services on both installs and see what's
>>what! Those Redmond Bastards!
>Not to discourage you, but fdisk /mbr is an old windows trick, and
Old DOS trick, you mean. Here is the deal; installed W2K Advanced Server and
the install altered the MBR so lilo couldn't locate winnt.exe (or whatever).
lilo wasn't having a problem with installing and running a Linux partition,
it was just a problem with the W2K partition (/dev/hda1 - 5 gig).
>I'll add my own, when in doubt and ya wanna be sure, I use fdisk /mbr
>and then a low leveler called maxllf which kills all partitions on a
>hard disk, if you want a clean disk to install on. extreme but it works.
Thanks for that - will look it up.
>Otherwise partition magic is your friend.
Ya, got an old PM but doesn't work on new FAT32 partitions.
Best regards,
Brian
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From: "The infamous \"Brian\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: lilo doesn't install on large disk with W2K...
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 06:48:55 GMT
Hey James:
James Stewart wrote in message ...
<clipped for brevity>
>Yea, but only if you have the "right" kind of BIOS.
New mainboard - manufactured this year, 1999 Award BIOS.
>It is explained in the newer LILO's Documentation.
Got it working!!!
It wasn't a Linux or even a lilo problem at all - it was a Windows 2000
Advanced Server problem!
Here is what I did. Installed lilo manually ONLY for Linux in the MBR -
worked perfectly but no boot option for W2K.
Booted W98 emerg disk and ran fdisk /mbr then booted back into Linux and did
a "simple" liloconfig to MBR and BANGO, installed and works great.
By the way, Windows 2000 is overpriced, undersupported and problematic.
Microsoft's inhouse "knowledgebase" search engines are crap. A full Windows
2000 Advanced Server can't even read a Mac filesystem on a ZIP disk (Linux
can no probs).
Best regards,
Brian
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From: "Clayton Tang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Help! 3Com 3CCFE575CT under Redhat 7.0, not recognized
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 07:00:23 GMT
I have Redhat 7.0 on a TP600E PII-300mhz. My 3com 3ccfe575ct 10/100
mehahertz card doesn't get autorecognized. My other 3com 10base-T works just
fine. Do I need a driver or recompile? Please help!
Clayton
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