Linux-Setup Digest #116, Volume #20 Mon, 27 Nov 00 16:13:10 EST
Contents:
Dual Boot Caldera 2.4 and Win2K ("Ken")
Re: Benefits of GRUB? (A transfinite number of monkeys)
Re: Remove LILO (Franz Brummer)
Re: linksys tx100 setup in suse 6.3 failure ("Ray")
Re: Remove LILO (DualIP)
Re: SAA7146 onboard a DV500 (DualIP)
Re: Remove LILO (Markus Kossmann)
Re: Help - compiling driver for network card ("Peter T. Breuer")
Igniting a Linux box (David Hudkins)
RH6.2 on Promise UDM66 controller and LILO (Rman)
newbi -> samba (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren?= Neigaard)
Re: @home user...3c905c-tx NEEDS HELP!! ("Jimmy Stokes")
Problems with LILO ("Slive")
Setting the correct time? ("Martin Vipond")
Re: Best OS for 486/33 SX w/ 32meg ram? (aflinsch)
Re: Help !! Install Problems with redhat 6.2!! ("Jimmy Stokes")
Re: RPM foolishness in 6.2 (Michael V. Ferranti)
Re: please help with kernel build!! (Michael V. Ferranti)
Re: why /dev/hdc ?? (Michael V. Ferranti)
Re: why /dev/hdc ?? (Michael V. Ferranti)
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From: "Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Dual Boot Caldera 2.4 and Win2K
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 11:09:15 -0500
Hi,
I just installed a second hard drive in my Windows 2000 machine and have
installed Caldera OpenLinux 2.4 on it. I did not put Linux in the MBR and
used the command line:
dd if=/dev/hdb1 bs=512 count=1 of=linux.img
I then FTPed the image to another machine on my LAN (because I was unable to
access my floppy drive under Linux). I booted Windows and got the image
file off the FTP server. I copied it to my root directory of /dev/hda1, my
Windows partition. I added the line C:\linux.img="Caldera OpenLinux
eDesktop 2.4" to my boot.ini file. For one reason or another I can't get
Linux to load. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Ken.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (A transfinite number of monkeys)
Subject: Re: Benefits of GRUB?
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 16:46:30 GMT
On Mon, 27 Nov 2000 06:10:42 -0600, philo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: originally... lilo was not able to boot to a partition beyond the 1024th
: cyl. grub was developed to solve that problem plus give you a graphical
: display...which lilo doesn't have.
You're missing the other benefits of grub. Lilo will only boot images
that are listed in the /etc/lilo.conf file. With grub, it doesn't care
what you want to boot, you can boot pre-defined images that come out of
the menu.lst file, OR you can flip grub into command-line modem and boot
whatever you'd like, changing whatever parameters you want.
--
Jason Costomiris <>< | Technologist, geek, human.
jcostom {at} jasons {dot} org | http://www.jasons.org/
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
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From: Franz Brummer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Remove LILO
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 17:59:12 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ups you are right :(...I am sorry! Hope my advice didn't make things worse...
I don't know about win 2000 though.
Martin Schmidt wrote:
>
> Franz Brummer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
> 8vt4e1$2fcn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Daniel Pettersson wrote:
> >>
> > > > > Hi,
> > >> >
> > > > > I run RedHat and win2000 and I want to remove LILO from the master
> > > boot > > record in the win2000 partition - but how do you do?
> > >> >
> > > > > thanx,
> > > > > Daniel
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > > In the DOS box on windows type:
> >>
> > > fdisk /mbr
> >>
> > > This will restore the windows boot sector.
> >>
> > > greets
>
> Be careful i think this works only for Win 95/98 or Dos
>
>
>
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From: "Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linksys tx100 setup in suse 6.3 failure
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 12:15:37 -0500
I have pretty much tried your suggestion already. The only thing that I did
not do was remove the old tulip.o first, wont it overwrite automatically
when copied to the ../net directory? The main problem I had before was that
if could not get the compile command to work as you have it listed.
gcc -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/net/inet -Wall
-Wstrict-prototypes -O6 -c tulip.c `[ -f /usr/include/linux/modversions.h ]
&& echo -DMODVERSIONS`
I kept getting the error that
`[ -f /usr/include/linux/modversions.h ] && echo -DMODVERSIONS` file or
directory does not exist. (I think that is right)
The modversions.h file does exist but there is only 1 commented out line in
the file. Not sure what the function of modversions.h is. To get compile to
work I just used the compile command at end of tulip.c file and it worked.
So I ran the compile command in a /root/tmp directory(where tulip.c is
located), obviously without the inet path, then I copied the tulip.o file to
/lib/modules/kernal_version/net. Also, I ensured that the modules.conf file
had the entry
alias eth0 tulip
I run
depmod -a
and get a slew of unresolved symbols errors. Not sure what that means but
anyway I get them. But, the modules.dep files does contain a line item for
the path of the tulip.o module. Then when I try to test using
modprobe tulip
I get the errors that insmod failed and so on like I said in the original
post.
I must be missing something. Any ideas on why the compile doesn't work with
the recommended command? Those are single underbars in the command aren't
they. Maybe I am not reading the command properly. Maybe the SuSE system
does not use the modversions.h file or something. I'm not sure but it is
driving me CRAZY.
Thanks!
Ray
"David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Ray Lassiter wrote:
> >
> > well i have seen several posts regarding this issue but i still can't
get
> > the card to work. I downloaded the new tulip.c from
http://www.scyld.com/,
> > with all associated files that it said i needed. I did have to download
to a
> > Windoze machine but i ran dos2unix on them prior to compiling. i then
copied
> > the .o files to the /usr/src/linux/net folder. However, when i run
modprobe
> > it tells me that insmod failed. Therefore, i cannot get the card to
work.
> > This is really irritating. Also, i did enusre that the module.conf file
had
> > a reference. On boot when loading kernel it says that insmod fails the
> > device eth0 is in use. Modprobe tulip says that i have unresolved
symbols
> >
> > __global_cli
> > __global_save_flags
> > __global_restore_flags
> >
> > then it says insmod /lib/modules/2.2.13/net tulip.o failed.
> >
> > If anyone has any suggestions please help! i am at wits end!
>
>
> This works for me on a redhat system.
>
> To compile the module you will need to log in as "root", or "su" to
> root.
>
> You can download the latest version of the Tulip.c driver from one of
> the links below, or copy it from the Linksys disk that came with the
> ethernet card:
>
> http://www.linksys.com/support/support.asp?spid=25
> ftp://ftp.scydld.com/pub/network/tulip.c
>
> Next you need to add a directory named "inet" to /usr/src/linux/net
> with the following command:
>
> mkdir /usr/src/linux/net/inet
>
> Then copy the tulip.c module into the inet directory with this:
>
> cp /path/to/tulip.c /usr/src/linux/net/inet/
>
> First you remove the old module.
>
> rm -f /lib/modules/kernel_version/net/tulip.o
>
> In order to be able to compile the module you need to be in the inet
> directory. This can be done with the following command.
>
> cd /usr/src/linux/net/inet
>
> Use one of the commands below depending on what is needed by your
> system.
> Be careful of typo errors, they will cause the compile to fail.
>
> 1.) To compile the Tulip module, issue the command below, it must all be
> on one line:
>
> gcc -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/net/inet -Wall
> -Wstrict-prototypes -O6 -c tulip.c `[ -f
> /usr/include/linux/modversions.h ] && echo -DMODVERSIONS`
>
>
> 2.) For a dual processor system, compile it with the command below, it
> must all be on one line:
>
> gcc -D__SMP__ -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/net/inet -Wall
> -Wstrict-prototypes -O6 -c tulip.c `[ -f
> /usr/include/linux/modversions.h ] && echo -DMODVERSIONS`
>
>
> Once compiled you need to install it as follows:
>
> To install the new
>
> cp tulip.o /lib/modules/kernel_version/net
>
> You need to add the "tulip" module to /etc/conf.modules using the
> correct device (eth0, eth1, etc...).
>
> alias eth0 tulip
>
> Now update the "modules.dep" file by issuing the following command:
>
> depmod -a
>
> From this point most of the time all that is needed is to restart the
> network for the new module to be activated. You can do this with the
> following:
>
> /etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart
>
> If you want to check it prior to restarting the network, you can issue
> the command below and then check /var/log/messages for any errors.
>
> modprobe tulip.o
>
> The module is installed correctly, if no errors appear in the logs.
>
> If you tested the install you need to unload it from the kernel with the
> command and then restart the network:
>
> rmmod tulip.o
>
>
> --
> Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
> Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
> ID # 123538
> Completed more work units than: 98.855% of seti users +/- 0.01%.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DualIP)
Subject: Re: Remove LILO
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 17:43:32 GMT
On Mon, 27 Nov 2000 17:59:12 +0100, Franz Brummer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Ups you are right :(...I am sorry! Hope my advice didn't make things worse...
>I don't know about win 2000 though.
In NT4 you had to reinstall using the 3 boot floppies ,and choose the
option repair...
Can't be much different in w2k
DualIP
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DualIP)
Subject: Re: SAA7146 onboard a DV500
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 17:45:08 GMT
On Mon, 27 Nov 2000 13:50:16 +0100, LAHAYE Olivier
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>The Pinnacle DV500 DV capture board has 3 chipset on it:
>- Texas Instruments TSB12LV23 OHCI Compliant IEEE-1394 Controller
>- C-Cube Microsystems E4?
>- Philips Semiconductors SAA7146
>
>The ieee1394 works well, but I can't use the SAA7146 device.
>It is recognized by the
>/lib/modules/2.4.0-test11/kernel/drivers/media/video/stradis.o, but all
>capture progs like kwintv ou xawtv ou broadcast2000a needs a channel wihich
>doesn't exist.
>What is its exact fuction? It seems to output MPEG2. Right?
At www.philips.com you can DL .PDFs from most of their chips
DualIP
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From: Markus Kossmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Remove LILO
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 18:42:55 +0100
Daniel Pettersson wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I run RedHat and win2000 and I want to remove LILO from the master boot
> record in the win2000 partition - but how do you do?
>
What about "lilo -u" ?
--
Markus Kossmann
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.linux,alt.comp.linux
Subject: Re: Help - compiling driver for network card
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 19:12:25 +0100
In comp.os.linux.hardware Michael J. Barber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is the output of the make command.
> make
> In file included from pcnet_cs.c:34:
> /usr/include/linux/modversions.h:1:2: #error Modules should never use
> kernel-headers system headers,
> /usr/include/linux/modversions.h:2:2 #error but headers from an
> appropriate kernel-source
Yes, use the kernel source instead of what RH provided you with. I
would guess from the above that they have a /usr/include/linux
directory. Delete it. It should be a softlink to
/usr/linux/include/linux. Ditto /usr/include/asm.
> In file included from
> /usr/src/linux/pcmcia-cs-3.1.19/include/pcmcia/k_compat.h:87, from
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
right place
> pcnet_cs.c:50:
> /usr/include/linux/modeversions.h:1:2: #error Modules should never use
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
wrong place
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Hudkins)
Subject: Igniting a Linux box
Date: 27 Nov 2000 18:29:48 GMT
Does anybody know of a way to "Ignite" a Linux box from
the network? HP uses a similar process for downloading HP-UX to
a workstation via an ignite server which ftp's a image tarball
to a specific machine, untars, then runs a software install program
based on the pre-defined image (tar file) for that machine.
TIA,
Dave Hudkins
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 19:54:27 +0100
From: Rman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RH6.2 on Promise UDM66 controller and LILO
Hi,
the following situation causes me head ache:
I have a Promise UDMA66 controller in addition to my onboard controller
(UDMA33).
My two UDMA66 harddisks are connected to this controller.
Linux is on the master of the IDE0 on the Promise (hde).
One old 540 Mb harddisk is connected to the internal controller (hda).
There is DOS installed.
Now my question: how can I boot Linux and DOS without using a boot disk?
There was something with ide=reverse in LILO, and boot offboard
controller fist in the kernel.
Any hints???
Robert
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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren?= Neigaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: newbi -> samba
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 20:06:15 +0100
I need to access a Windoze NT Domain from my Linux workstation. What do I
need to accomplis this? Do I need to setup a samba server, or can I do with
less?
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From: "Jimmy Stokes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: @home user...3c905c-tx NEEDS HELP!!
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 14:16:34 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Archangel"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've tried many times to get my baby connected to the net with
> Linux..BeOs...etc....and I cannot....for some reason it doesn't
> connect...what do I need to do....help will be much appreciated:) In
> Christ Jose
Jose,
Can you perhaps give more information as to what kinds of steps you've
taken to connect and what kinds of output you received? Be specific, as
with more information you give the easier it will be to help you. If you
want to email me privately you may, my address is
[EMAIL PROTECTED] except without the "snot." I can possibly
help with BeOS as well, and I run both at home.
Regards,
Jimmy
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From: "Slive" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problems with LILO
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 20:26:37 +0100
Hey,
I have installed my redhat on my system. The installation works fine.
After it reboot, it seems to hang on LILO. I have only "LI" display on the
screen . What should I do?
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From: "Martin Vipond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Setting the correct time?
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 14:32:09 -0500
Can someone tell me how to set the correct system time on a RH Linux box
from a CLI? Please?
Thanks.
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From: aflinsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Best OS for 486/33 SX w/ 32meg ram?
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 14:19:56 -0600
shadowlord wrote:
>
> I would like to use an old 486/33 SX based computer with 32meg ram as
> a web terminal in my home. I tried the QNX demo, but it doesn't work
> with either of my two network cards. (Crystal 8920 and some generic
> card ..)
>
I have a 483/33 DX with 20Meg of ram running suse 6.4. Works great,
but I do not have X running on it (only a crappy video card and no
monitor) It mainly just sits on the network and gets telnetted to to
play a few games.
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From: "Jimmy Stokes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help !! Install Problems with redhat 6.2!!
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 14:45:07 -0500
In article <8vgekh$gth$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have intel 810 chip machine, I have installed RedHat6.2 as server on
> that machine and now I would like to run X windows on my Linux Server...
> What should I do to make X windows work on my machine.. I know RedHat6.2
> has some problems working with X Windows and 810 Chip .... Can someone
> help me ??? I am lost....
>
>
> Thanks CS
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
Did you install X when you installed RedHat? If so, try and run "startx"
from the console.
If not, then you should first install the RedHat RPMS and then run
"Xconfigurator" to configure X. I believe I have run X on the Intel 810
chip with no problems.
Jimmy
--
To email me, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
but remove the "msn" from the email address.
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From: Michael V. Ferranti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RPM foolishness in 6.2
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 20:29:43 +0000
And [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry) spoke thusly:
>Heh Heh. I love that one.
Yeah, ya just can't trust those pinko commie operating systems. ;P
-- Michael V. Ferranti [blades&inreach*com]
Warning: The Surgeon General has deemed that excessive displays of warning
labels and public service announcements produce stress and shortens lives.
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From: Michael V. Ferranti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: please help with kernel build!!
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 20:29:45 +0000
And Adam Weeks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spoke thusly:
>I tried most of this Friday,
"Most" will not build a running kernel, not w/o the modules, and
remember, all this was for RH6.2. I don't know what-all was changed for
RH7.0. I'm hoping it is from renaming the original kernel files, and that
hopefully it can be corrected by renaming them back to their previous
filenames. Damn. Here's an excerpt from lilo's README:
>LI The first stage boot loader was able to load the second stage boot
> loader, but has failed to execute it. This can either be caused by a
> geometry mismatch or by moving /boot/boot.b without running the map
> installer.
<snip>
>The map installer program /sbin/lilo updates the boot sector and creates
> the map file. If the map installer detects an error, it terminates
> immediately and does not touch the boot sector and the map file.
...but you say you ran /sbin/lilo, so I'm not sure *what* the hell is
going on here. But still, if that were really the case, I kinda think you
would be getting further than "LI". Maybe you missed an error message from
running /sbin/lilo and the map-file update was skipped?
>I was able to produce the bzImage!
I hope you changed the value of EXTRAVERSION in the makefile. If not,
and you ran "make modules_install", your original modules were overwritten.
>So I renamed the /boot files to 2.2.16-22OLD, just adding old on the end. I
>really wasn't sure exactly which files, so I renamed both vmlinux-2.2... and
>vmlinuz-2.2, both copied to the same with OLD on the end.
Rename those two files back to the way they were, correct lilo.conf,
and try running /sbin/lilo again...see if it updates w/o errors...you
didn't have to touch those files. I'm *hoping* that renaming the kernel to
-OLD is causing it to point to a non-existant module directory under
/lib/modules/. I guess you couldn't try the original kernel if you only
got to "LI"...
>I then copied the bzImage to vmlinuz-2.2.16-22NEW.
What did you use for the EXTRAVERSION variable? I think "-22" was the
original value, which should match up with a "/lib/modules/2.2.16-22"
directory for kernelname "/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16-22". Your lilo.conf looks
okay, except possibly for the renamed originals. I'd maybe default to the
original kernel until the new one has been tested, too. I hope this gets
you going again, otherwise I dunno what to tell you besides "reinstall."
-- Michael V. Ferranti [blades&inreach*com]
Warning: The Surgeon General has deemed that excessive displays of warning
labels and public service announcements produce stress and shortens lives.
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From: Michael V. Ferranti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: why /dev/hdc ??
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 20:29:47 +0000
And "steveFarris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spoke thusly:
>Why does my hard drive show up as /dev/hdc instead of /dev/hda...is it the
>physical position on the ribbon cable or jumper settings...?
Jumper settings. hdc is the IDE2 "master" drive. If you have only a
single IDE card and not a dual, it *might* be a BIOS PCI setting (IRQ-14 is
reserved for IDE1, IRQ-15 is res. for IDE2), or a jumper on the controller
card. Otherwise the cable's plugged into IDE2's slot. Primary (master)
and secondary (slave_ settings are controlled by jumpers on the drive
itself. What does the rest of your /etc/fstab file look like?
-- Michael V. Ferranti [blades&inreach*com]
Warning: The Surgeon General has deemed that excessive displays of warning
labels and public service announcements produce stress and shortens lives.
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From: Michael V. Ferranti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: why /dev/hdc ??
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 20:29:48 +0000
And [EMAIL PROTECTED] (rdh) spoke thusly:
>You're kidding, right? All you'd have to do is change all references
>to /dev/hdc* in /etc/fstab to /dev/hda*, and vice versa.
Don't forget the settings in lilo.conf.
-- Michael V. Ferranti [blades&inreach*com]
Warning: The Surgeon General has deemed that excessive displays of warning
labels and public service announcements produce stress and shortens lives.
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