Linux-Setup Digest #118, Volume #20 Mon, 27 Nov 00 23:13:12 EST
Contents:
Re: Deeper Secrets Part 2 (Cliff Sarginson)
Re: Best OS for 486/33 SX w/ 32meg ram? (Cliff Sarginson)
Re: why /dev/hdc ?? (rdh)
HELP !!! Lots of setup problems!!! (Stefan Stommels)
Re: Need help understanding vocabulary (new to Java (and Linux)) ("Chris Smith")
pppd connects but doesn't talk (Dick Goldberg)
Re: insmod error message help (ljb)
Re: wide network configuration (Bob Hauck)
Re: Installing Linux on Win 98 System
Re: linksys tx100 setup in suse 6.3 failure ("Gary L. Dolan")
RH6.2 with SB128 PCI (Wally Anglesea)
Linux runs slow on PII400/256MB ("Mark Johnson")
Erratic Mandrake 7.x Install problem! Please help! ("John Wolford")
Re: linksys tx100 setup in suse 6.3 failure ("Ray Lassiter")
Redhat 7 on Comnpaq Prosignia 200 server-SCSI problem on install ("Michael J. M.
Maranda")
Re: Need help understanding vocabulary (new to Java (and Linux)) (jdunn)
Need Help with Bootps (jdunn)
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From: Cliff Sarginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Deeper Secrets Part 2
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 16:49:24 +0100
philo posited:
> wow now i'm even more puzzled. (i'm dual booting win98 and mandrake 7)
> i had been trying to set up either grub or the new lilo so i would now
> have to rely on a boot
> floppy.
>
> i received an excellent suggestion to try loadlin
>
> and it worked beautifully...even for a newcommer like me.
>
> but here is the really odd thing:
>
> when i boot to linux using loadlin...
> my ppp dial-up *does not* work...it just hangs
>
> but when i go back and boot to linux from the boot disk ...all workes
> fine.
> how can this be???
> i tried both ways several times...
> plus i did a uname -r first to make sure i did infact copy the correct
> image onto my windows partition.
>
> plus: i created a linux directory on my windows drive C: to put the
> image file
>
> i cannot see it in the gnome file manager (yes i know it's a bit buggy
> and the directories
> have to be shutdown ,then opened)
> but it is there (as expected) in mc...
>
> i'll tell you...this is sure one heck of an odd-ball learning experience
> for me.
>
> so who would like to help me solve this challenge..?.
>
> *thank-you*
>
> Philo
>
Mmmm.
I would guess that Windows has left some of it's usual mess behind.
I have this problem with my Ethernet cards, they are unusable after I use
windows if I reboot to Linux without doing a powerdown (I don;t use
loadlin, but the problem sounds the same).
I may be wrong, I hope so ! I certainly don;t know what the solution is.
You could try sending an ATZ to the modem I suppose when you boot linux.
Good luck
Cliff
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From: Cliff Sarginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Best OS for 486/33 SX w/ 32meg ram?
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 16:51:51 +0100
shadowlord posited:
> I would like to use an old 486/33 SX based computer with 32meg ram as
> a web terminal in my home. I tried the QNX demo, but it doesn't work
> with either of my two network cards. (Crystal 8920 and some generic
> card ..)
>
> What flavor of linux would be recommended for this type of machine?
> Simple to setup and maintain would be BIG plusses!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
The only distribution I personally have found that installs problem free on
low-end computers is Slackware. But others may have different experiences..
Cliff
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (rdh)
Subject: Re: why /dev/hdc ??
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 00:32:47 GMT
On Mon, 27 Nov 2000 20:29:48 +0000, Michael V. Ferranti
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>And [EMAIL PROTECTED] (rdh) spoke thusly:
>
>>You're kidding, right? All you'd have to do is change all references
>>to /dev/hdc* in /etc/fstab to /dev/hda*, and vice versa.
>
> Don't forget the settings in lilo.conf.
True... I remembered that right after I hit "send". He should be okay
without updating lilo.conf, until he needs to reinstall LILO (after
building a new kernel, etc.). Better to do it now, though, while
we're thinking about it.
--Russell
============================================================
email (spam-disabled):
rdh *at* salug *dot* org
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From: Stefan Stommels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HELP !!! Lots of setup problems!!!
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 00:36:51 GMT
I have following PC:
P3-500, 128MB RAM, CL GeForce2MX, SBLive!1024, Realtek RTL8029 LAN card
I use Redhat 7.0
Anyone know the solution to my following problems:
1. What do I need to get from the Xfree Repository to get my GForce
working with the NVIDIA-kernel-0.95 in XFree 4.0.1
2. I also need some DGA-mouse patch from the XFree CVS to fix some
older incompatibility error in programs such as quake 3.
3. How do I get the SBLive! working in Linux. I got the ALSA-
sounddrivers, but after compilation, what do I do ? Manual says
to edit modules.conf, but not what I'm supposed to put there.
4. My LAN-card (PCI-RTL8029-combo on COAX) doesn't get to access the
network. I configured it with linuxconf as ne2000-PCI, but it won't
find the DHCP.
When I use my old ISA-ne2000 (also combo) it works fine. What could
be the point I'm missing with the Realtek ?
Thanx to everyone who could help me out with at least 1 of my troubles.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "Chris Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.help
Subject: Re: Need help understanding vocabulary (new to Java (and Linux))
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 18:57:30 -0600
Mark Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ...
> But I have no clue what it means to "include ... on the system class
> path". Am I supposed to edit an environment variable or a config file.
It depends on your development environment. If you're using the Sun JDK or
just about any other command line Java compiler/interpreter, then you need
to add it to the end of an environment variable called CLASSPATH. If you
don't have a CLASSPATH environment variable set, you'll want to include at
least the files they reference by absolute path, and the current directory,
"."
Do this, of course, somewhere where the changes will last, such as in a
shell dotfile.
Chris Smith
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From: Dick Goldberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: pppd connects but doesn't talk
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 18:07:59 -0700
When I dial using Gnome dialup the log (and the modem lights) show that
a connection was made. However, the ISP never asks for a login and
therefore, no password. So there it sits and I can't communicate.
Can someone please point me to the right docs or tell me how to proceed.
I am running RedHat 6.1 I have had it running but something is scewed
up now.
Thanks
dickg
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ljb)
Subject: Re: insmod error message help
Date: 28 Nov 2000 01:37:52 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>My training wheels are wobbling, and I need a push....
>
>I compiled a device driver for for the embedded NIC on my motherboard.
>It compiled OK.
>
>When I enter the command: insmod sis900.o
>
>the following error message is experienced: sis900.o: init_module:
>Device or resource busy
>
>Does this mean that the NIC is busy? Any suggestions would be
>appreciated.
No, it probably means the module did not detect (probe) for the
device, or there was an IRQ conflict. I don't know anything much
about this driver, but it seems to be for PCI cards (an embedded NIC
on motherboard likely acts like a PCI card), so you might try
running "lspci" and see if it sees the NIC.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: wide network configuration
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 01:44:04 GMT
On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 05:01:04 +0100, Ionut Georgescu
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>a network of about 20 (linux) computers is given. With 2 or three
>exceptions, they all must have exactly the same software and
>configuration.
Rsync + a cron script might be what you're looking for.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Installing Linux on Win 98 System
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 02:30:33 GMT
On Mon, 27 Nov 2000 23:47:28 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I'm BRAND new to Linux.
>
>I wish to install Mandrake Linux 7.2 on my laptop with Windows 98 and
>would like to end up with a dual boot system. Both OS's will be on the
>same hard drive. Before I do anythimg, I'd like advice from any who've
>done this before in regard to partitioning requirements, preparation,
>recommended installation step sequence etc. Are there particular
>problems I ought to look for, things not to do?
You need at least two, possibly three partitions.
1) swap
2) the file system
and
possibly 3) a /boot partition if the file system partition can't be located
entirely within the first 1023 cylinders -- this is a PC bios limitation.
Investigate ALL your hardware for compatability, especially your video. Stuff
like sound you can work out later; w/out working video, you're hosed.
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From: "Gary L. Dolan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linksys tx100 setup in suse 6.3 failure
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 20:37:23 +0600
In article <vGwU5.2932$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> gcc -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/net/inet -Wall
> -Wstrict-prototypes -O6 -c tulip.c `[ -f /usr/include/linux/modversions.h ]
> && echo -DMODVERSIONS`
>
> I kept getting the error that
>
> `[ -f /usr/include/linux/modversions.h ] && echo -DMODVERSIONS` file or
> directory does not exist. (I think that is right)
>
> The modversions.h file does exist but there is only 1 commented out line in
> the file. Not sure what the function of modversions.h is. To get compile to
> work I just used the compile command at end of tulip.c file and it worked.
> So I ran the compile command in a /root/tmp directory(where tulip.c is
> located), obviously without the inet path, then I copied the tulip.o file to
> /lib/modules/kernal_version/net. Also, I ensured that the modules.conf file
> had the entry
In Debian, and I suspect in the other linux flavors, modversions.h is produced
when you compile a kernel, or you can get it by getting the kernel headers
for your installed kernel. I use the tulip driver here, and went thru all
kinds of hell trying to compile it, but I was able to get the job done when I
learned where to find modversions.h
--
Gary Dolan
Debian GNU/Linux, Kernel 2.4.0-test10
FreeBSD 4.2
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From: Wally Anglesea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RH6.2 with SB128 PCI
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:40:58 -1100
According to the docco, it should recognise it right away.
However, sndconfig, and bootup fail to initialise it. Seems to be on IRQ9
according to windoze. Should I edit it out or what?
cheers,
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From: "Mark Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux runs slow on PII400/256MB
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 02:48:12 GMT
I've done the developer installation of Mandrake 7.2 running KDE. Things
seem to run very slow. My machine is a Pentium II 400 MHz with 256 MB
RAM. I'm a first time user of linux. Should things be running so
slowly? At work I have the same setup running on a PIII800/256MB and
it's very spunky even over Exceed. I understand that there is a big
difference between my home machine and my work machine, but I've heard
all these stories about how linux runs well on even anemic systems. I'm
kind of disappointed with the whole thing.
Netscape 4 and 6 both seem to be total beasts, I guess that is to be
expected. The newsreaders KRN and Pan seem to be a bit beasts too but to
a lesser extent, is this your experience too?
Even excusing the browsers, just clicking on Desktop Properties seems to
take forever to load.
I tried the Helix Gnome stuff, but it was so painfully slow that I
reverted back to KDE.
What's the ideal hardware to run a typical developer installation of
Linux? (I did a developer installation because I have to be able to
download the source and make the applications I want to run since
sometimes the plain binaries are not available.)
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From: "John Wolford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Erratic Mandrake 7.x Install problem! Please help!
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 03:03:35 GMT
About a month ago i installed 7.1 on hdc (Win2kPro on hda). It installed
like a dream (except the lilo boot loader it installed on hda didn't like
the geometry of the drive and i had to uninstall it and install lilo on a
floppy - thank god for man pages!). I spent many days reading man pages and
configuring it to my liking. As soon as i got it to where i wanted it - all
the services i did and didn't want, all the updates, the newest kernel
configured myself, etc etc - the new 7.2 came out. Thinking this a perfect
opportunity to go through everything again, while it's fresh on my mind (and
paper etc), i tarballed all of my relevant config files, data, etc and
deleted the partitions to give me room to do a complete install of 7.2.
What happened: I was installing 7.2 and when i got to the part where i was
to configure X-Windows it...crashed. It complained mildly and froze. I
rebooted and much of the installation being complete, i managed to log in
and take a look around. X-Windows wasn't working, it complained about not
being able to find the fixed font, something to do with unix:%1 or something
like that. My locate database was corrupt and i had to redo it. Any time i
had to run "info" to get an info page it would give me back a segmentation
fault and dump the core. Various other things didn't work.
I've since attempted about 7 installations, some of 7.2, some of 7.1, ALL
with similar results (even subsequent 7.1 installs). Sometimes the
installation hangs when it's installing a random package, sometimes it
finishes the whole thing - if i skip the XWindows configuration, which
always makes it crash now. If i manage to install "successfuly" i always
wind up with the same situation as my first 7.2 install (described above).
In such a situation i have been able to reinstall various rpms to get things
like info, make and lynx (yes i can bring up the network) working properly,
to name a few, but sometimes even that (installing new rpms) isn't enough. I
can't fix it enough to even compile a new kernel. I'm at a total loss, i'm
trying to deal with a crippled linux system and honestly i'm a rank beginner
(well i was a month or two ago anyway) so i can't deal with all of these
super-low-level crazy error messages. Let's just say it seems to be beyond
the man pages, to say nothing of the HOWTO's.
How am i able to post this message? Thanks to my stupid windows box. At
least something is working. When i first installed 7.1 i stopped using
Windows altogether almost immediately but right now i'm facing problems with
linux i don't know how to fix.
Differences between my first and subsequent installs of 7.x: None, except
that in my first install i installed EVERYTHING on hdc. Lately i've been
trying to spread it out over hdb and hdc, for greater efficiency and data
security. I don't see why this should make a difference but what the hell
i've already done over half a dozen installs, i'll try doing the EXACT SAME
THING as my first successful install. Let's assume that doesn't work. WHAT
CAN I DO TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM??
Thank you very much,
John
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Ray Lassiter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linksys tx100 setup in suse 6.3 failure
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 22:03:08 -0500
well I'm going to follow up with a stupid question. Where do i get the
kernel headers. When i do get the kernel headers how do i get the
modversion.h file to the appropriate location, which is per the compile
command /usr/include/linux?
"Gary L. Dolan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:SKEU5.363$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <vGwU5.2932$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>
> > gcc -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/net/inet -Wall
> > -Wstrict-prototypes -O6 -c tulip.c `[ -f
/usr/include/linux/modversions.h ]
> > && echo -DMODVERSIONS`
> >
> > I kept getting the error that
> >
> > `[ -f /usr/include/linux/modversions.h ] && echo -DMODVERSIONS` file or
> > directory does not exist. (I think that is right)
> >
> > The modversions.h file does exist but there is only 1 commented out line
in
> > the file. Not sure what the function of modversions.h is. To get compile
to
> > work I just used the compile command at end of tulip.c file and it
worked.
> > So I ran the compile command in a /root/tmp directory(where tulip.c is
> > located), obviously without the inet path, then I copied the tulip.o
file to
> > /lib/modules/kernal_version/net. Also, I ensured that the modules.conf
file
> > had the entry
>
> In Debian, and I suspect in the other linux flavors, modversions.h is
produced
> when you compile a kernel, or you can get it by getting the kernel headers
> for your installed kernel. I use the tulip driver here, and went thru all
> kinds of hell trying to compile it, but I was able to get the job done
when I
> learned where to find modversions.h
> --
> Gary Dolan
> Debian GNU/Linux, Kernel 2.4.0-test10
> FreeBSD 4.2
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From: "Michael J. M. Maranda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Redhat 7 on Comnpaq Prosignia 200 server-SCSI problem on install
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 03:47:45 GMT
Greetings,
I am having trouble installing Linux (Redhat 7) on a prosignia 200 (PII-300)
256 MB server.
The problem relates to the SCSI HD or bus.
(I have the latest bios, and the latest smartstart cd)
The SCSI drive is recognized by the disk druid, and ostensibly I am able to
partition the drive for Linux. But a few steps later when the installer
tries to install the packages, the new partitions cannot be found and the
install aborts.
I am rather lost.... Compaq doesnt seem to have anything on their webstite
for Linux for this particular server (as of a few days ago-I'm going back
now.)
Any advice that you can offer will be greatly appreciated!
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From: jdunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.help
Subject: Re: Need help understanding vocabulary (new to Java (and Linux))
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 21:53:13 -0600
Mark Johnson wrote:
> ENV: Linux 2.2, Mandrake 7.2, JDK (?? - i don't know how to find this out)
>
> I'm am trying to setup an XLST processor built in java
> (http://xml.apache.org/xalan/getstarted.html#classpath)
>
> In the documentation it says:
>
> Setting up the system class path
>
> At the very minimum, you must include xalan.jar and xerces.jar on the
>system class
> path. To run the sample applications, include xalansamples.jar. To
>run extensions,
> include bsf.jar. All these JAR files are distributed with Xalan-Java.
>For extensions
> implemented in JavaScript or another scripting language, see
>extensions language
> requirements to identify any additional JAR files you must place on
>the class path and
> where you can get them.
>
> If you are using JDK or JRE 1.1.8, also include classes.zip on the
>class path.
>
> But I have no clue what it means to "include ... on the system class
> path". Am I supposed to edit an environment variable or a config file.
>
> I'm sure this is something really simple but the document is making an
> assumption about how to do something that I don't know how to do.
>
> thanks for your help.
I'll go a little further than Chris Smith and be more specific. I just had a similar
problem.
Every user has an entry in /etc/passwd. that describes his home subdirectory and the
shell
that that user prefers. On most Linux distributions the shell is bash . In that
user's home
subdirectory
(/home/username ) is a hidden file that the user's prefered shell loads which
contains, among other
things,
environment variables. Howeve, this environment is specific to that user and that
session. In other
words,
it's local. In Red Hat the hidden file is called .bash_profile (the period in front
makes it a hidden
file)
To check for it use the command ls -a . It's a plain text file. The CLASSPATH
variable used in java
probably
won't be there. In addition to adding this variable you must also add the variable
name (CLASSPATH) to
a second line that begins with the word EXPORT . Follow as an example the PATH
variable.
Now that's OK for local environment variable. There is however a file for Global
environments that
every user gets. In Red Hat it is /etc/profile. If you put the CLASSPATH in this
file instead, all
shell sessions get access to it. If you need a server process (like apache) to get
access to it then
this is a
good place to put it. Notice that both Global and local files have path statements.
The one in the local
file
begins PATH=%PATH that means the local path is appended to the global. You could do
something like
this with CLASSPATH.
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From: jdunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Need Help with Bootps
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 22:04:14 -0600
I need to switch from static ip's to DHCP/BOOTPS because I'm moving the
machine to a different network. The system is Debian potato and is
working with
static IPs . Where does DHCP live and is there a separate .deb ?
Where are the configuration files located ? Is DHCP started via inetd ??
The DHCP HOW-TO is brain dead and apparently no longer maintained.
I don't think linuxconfg is avilable on debian so I need manual
configuration.
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