Linux-Setup Digest #121, Volume #20 Tue, 28 Nov 00 06:13:06 EST
Contents:
Re: How to _un_install gcc? (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Linux runs slow on PII400/256MB (Paul Kimoto)
Re: SAA7146 onboard a DV500 (DualIP)
Re: How to _un_install gcc? (Lukas Mensinck)
Re: chmod within a skript ("Martin Schmidt")
Re: Linux runs slow on PII400/256MB (Chris Lo)
Re: dual boot w/ win98 on secondary master (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
Re: Xircom RealPort CardBus RBEM56G ??? (Michael Keller)
Re: remove lilo (Stanislaw Flatto)
Re: Makefile: where is arch/i386/boot? (Eric)
Re: Makefile: where is arch/i386/boot? (michael james obrien)
Slackware 7.1 ("ky_chiang")
Re: dual boot w/ win98 on secondary master (Eric)
Re: chmod within a skript ("Martin Schmidt")
Re: Dual Boot Caldera 2.4 and Win2K (Eric)
Re: Stuck (Eric)
Connection problem whit KDE ("Wouter")
Re: Makefile: where is arch/i386/boot? (Colin Watson)
Re: Installing on laptop without cdrom? (Keith McGaughran)
Re: newbie start (Stanislaw Flatto)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: How to _un_install gcc?
Date: 28 Nov 2000 03:30:06 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Lukas Mensinck wrote:
> On 25 Nov 2000 23:22:28 -0500, Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> It depends on how you are installing gcc. How are you doing that?
> Well, downloading the soure .. confugre .. make ... make install
> That's the way.
> I know, using a rpm is easy to uninstall. Thats not my problem.
> What I don't know ist how to uninstall the compiled and installed
> source code programs.
Some programs have "make uninstall". However, the gcc documentation
(latest, development version) says:
: Please note that GCC does not support `make uninstall` and probably
: won't do so in the near future as this would open a can of worms.
: Instead, we suggest that you install GCC into a directory of its own
: and simply remove that directory when you do not need that specific
: version of GCC any longer.
As a tedious last resort, you can run "make install" or "make -n install",
see what files are installed, and remove them.
--
Paul Kimoto
This message was originally posted on Usenet in plain text. Any images,
hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my consent,
and may be a violation of international copyright law.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Linux runs slow on PII400/256MB
Date: 28 Nov 2000 03:34:30 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <M1FU5.26743$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark Johnson wrote:
> I've done the developer installation of Mandrake 7.2 running KDE. Things
> seem to run very slow. My machine is a Pentium II 400 MHz with 256 MB
> RAM. I'm a first time user of linux. Should things be running so
> slowly? At work I have the same setup running on a PIII800/256MB and
> it's very spunky even over Exceed. I understand that there is a big
> difference between my home machine and my work machine, but I've heard
> all these stories about how linux runs well on even anemic systems.
Is it seeing all of your memory? (Is it slow because it's swapping?
The easiest test for that is listening for disk activity ...)
> Netscape 4 and 6 both seem to be total beasts, I guess that is to be
> expected. The newsreaders KRN and Pan seem to be a bit beasts too but to
> a lesser extent, is this your experience too?
>
> Even excusing the browsers, just clicking on Desktop Properties seems to
> take forever to load.
>
> I tried the Helix Gnome stuff, but it was so painfully slow that I
> reverted back to KDE.
The desktop environments (KDE, Gnome) reportedly consume huge amounts of
memory. You can use top(1) to see where it's going.
--
Paul Kimoto
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hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my consent,
and may be a violation of international copyright law.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DualIP)
Subject: Re: SAA7146 onboard a DV500
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 08:45:39 GMT
On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 02:09:35 +0100, LAHAYE Olivier
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>Thanks for your answer, but the only answer I found is that they refuse me
>to brows there pages with the Konkeror web brower (which is far stable than
>netscrape)
Hate to say , but sometimes a NT4 box comes in handy
DLed this one within 5 minutes and put it on some homepage..
http://users.bart.nl/~as/SAA7146A_1.pdf
DualIP
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lukas Mensinck)
Subject: Re: How to _un_install gcc?
Date: 28 Nov 2000 08:53:10 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 28 Nov 2000 03:30:06 -0500, Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Some programs have "make uninstall". However, the gcc documentation
>(latest, development version) says:
That's my problem.
>
>
>As a tedious last resort, you can run "make install" or "make -n install",
>see what files are installed, and remove them.
>
Thank's, I will try this. And I think it deleting the libs will help also
to make gcc not working any longer.
Thanks for your help
Lukas
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From: "Martin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: chmod within a skript
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 10:04:36 +0100
Wayne Pollock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Usually when you hit a wall like this, it is because the basic task
> you're trying to accomplish should be done another way. Why not
> explain what your overall task is here, and you might get good
> answers.
>
> SUID scripts are a security nightmare in Unix, and in modern Linux
> the "feature" is not even allowed.
>
> If you end up needing a program that anyone can run, and that changes
> the owner or permissions of a file, a short C program can do that
> and it *is* allowed to make that suid. This approach is much
> safer. Post (or email me) for a sample program if you wish.
>
Is it like fork and exec the command in a C-prog or something
more complicated ?
> But again, I bet your overall purpose can be solved in other,
> safer ways.
>
Ok my problem is the following :
I want to mount some samba shares when a user logs in .
(in /etc/profile.local using Suse 7.0 ) .
For that mount has to have 755 rights , but with this mount
rights its impossible to mount things like floppy or cdrom for
other users than root .
My idea was now to change the rights back to 4755 for
mount in the script , so that afterwards mounting of floppy
and cdrom is possible .
Martin
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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:31:01 +0800
From: Chris Lo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux runs slow on PII400/256MB
Check your hdparm, it seems the MDK7.2 has turn OFF the DMA and
READAHEAD settings. They used to be in MDK7.0 at least.
Regards,
Chris
Paul Kimoto wrote:
> In article <M1FU5.26743$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark Johnson wrote:
> > I've done the developer installation of Mandrake 7.2 running KDE. Things
> > seem to run very slow. My machine is a Pentium II 400 MHz with 256 MB
> > RAM. I'm a first time user of linux. Should things be running so
> > slowly? At work I have the same setup running on a PIII800/256MB and
> > it's very spunky even over Exceed. I understand that there is a big
> > difference between my home machine and my work machine, but I've heard
> > all these stories about how linux runs well on even anemic systems.
>
> Is it seeing all of your memory? (Is it slow because it's swapping?
> The easiest test for that is listening for disk activity ...)
>
> > Netscape 4 and 6 both seem to be total beasts, I guess that is to be
> > expected. The newsreaders KRN and Pan seem to be a bit beasts too but to
> > a lesser extent, is this your experience too?
> >
> > Even excusing the browsers, just clicking on Desktop Properties seems to
> > take forever to load.
> >
> > I tried the Helix Gnome stuff, but it was so painfully slow that I
> > reverted back to KDE.
>
> The desktop environments (KDE, Gnome) reportedly consume huge amounts of
> memory. You can use top(1) to see where it's going.
>
> --
> Paul Kimoto
> This message was originally posted on Usenet in plain text. Any images,
> hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my consent,
> and may be a violation of international copyright law.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
Subject: Re: dual boot w/ win98 on secondary master
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:57:55 GMT
James Van't Slot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm setting up my Linux machine to be dual boot.
>I have 3 disks and 1 cdrom.
>hda - Linux native
>hdb - Linux native (hda1 = /usr/local)
>hdc - win98
>hdd - cdrom
>
>I've tried a few things with LILO but when haven't been able to get
>anything to work with win98 just a blank screen with a flashin cursor.
>Linux boots fine, as does win98 when I unplug the first 2 disks off the
>primary IDE.
>Win98 seems to not mind that it is booting off the secondary IDE in this
>case.
>
>I just can't seem to get it to work from LILO.
>
>Any suggestions as to what the lilo.conf file should look like in this
>case?
>I've searched all the docs and all over the web but have not found any
>info on this particular situation.
>Thanks in advance.
http://inet.uni2.dk/~svolaf/part.txt
--
Svend Olaf
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From: Michael Keller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: Xircom RealPort CardBus RBEM56G ???
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:13:14 +0100
Hi Cameron.
Cameron wrote:
> Can anyone tell me if Linux supports a Xircom RealPort CardBus Ethernet
> 10/100 + Modem 56 (RBEM56G-100) PCMCIA card? I am mainly interested in
> using it with Red Hat, and also Mandrake (both are the latest versions).
I got the ethernet and also the modem of that card to work with kernel
2.2.18pre21 (debian woody), even the optional ISDN adaptor works
flawlessly in this configuration.
> If this card does work under Linux, can you help me with DETAILED
> instructions on how to configure Linux to use/work with the card, please?
> (E.g. which config files to modify, which network settings, which "adapter"
> to use, etc. etc. etc.)
With the pcmcia package delivered with debian woody the card is
recognized as soon as it is inserted, the modem is set to use the first
free ttySX.
hth & Greets
Michael Keller
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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: remove lilo
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:27:38 +1100
Cliff Sarginson wrote:
> Mmm. I think that the /mbr option did not exist in older versions of MSDOS
> fdisk, but how long ago that was I have no idea.
>
> Cliff
>
> --
>
Ver 5, 6 and 7 (aka Windows95) of FDISK.EXE have this option.
Stanislaw
Slak user from Ulladulla.
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Makefile: where is arch/i386/boot?
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:30:18 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
james wrote:
>
> Hi, I'm relatively new to Linux and I'm trying to configure the ISDN
> subsystem module for my kernel. I'm running Caldera 2.4 with the 2.2.14
> Kernel. Having read much documentation / FAQs, I haven't got further than
> menuconfig:
>
> [root@noname linux]# make menuconfig
> Makefile:213: arch/i386/Makefile: No such file or directory
> Makefile:481: Rules.make: No such file or directory
> make: *** No rule to make target `Rules.make'. Stop.
>
> Makefile with vi:
>
> 213: include arch/$(ARCH)/Makefile
> 418: include Rules.make
>
> ARCH := $(shell uname -m | sed -e s/i.86/i386/ -e s/sun4u/sparc64/ -e
> s/arm.*/arm/ -e s/sa110/arm/)
>
> I get the same message when I run
> make config
> make xconfig
> make zImage
> make bzImage etc.
>
> It would be nice to know what the cause of this problem is.
>
Have you even installed the kernel sources????
take a look at what is in /usr/src/linux
Eric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (michael james obrien)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Makefile: where is arch/i386/boot?
Date: 28 Nov 2000 10:22:54 GMT
Hi james.
arch/i386 lives in /usr/src/linux.
I think your problem is an easy one to fix. You probably don't have the
necessary source code packages installed.
Do this
rpm -qa|grep source
you should have something like
linux-source-i386-2.2.something-something
linux-source-common-2.2.something-something
If you don't, break out your CD and install the package with kpackage.
Before you do this though.. are you SURE you have to recompile the
module?? You can probably make all the changes you need with module
parameters. See /usr/src/linux/Documentation/isdn
-Michael
james ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hi, I'm relatively new to Linux and I'm trying to configure the ISDN
: subsystem module for my kernel. I'm running Caldera 2.4 with the 2.2.14
: Kernel. Having read much documentation / FAQs, I haven't got further than
: menuconfig:
: [root@noname linux]# make menuconfig
: Makefile:213: arch/i386/Makefile: No such file or directory
: Makefile:481: Rules.make: No such file or directory
: make: *** No rule to make target `Rules.make'. Stop.
: Makefile with vi:
: 213: include arch/$(ARCH)/Makefile
: 418: include Rules.make
: ARCH := $(shell uname -m | sed -e s/i.86/i386/ -e s/sun4u/sparc64/ -e
: s/arm.*/arm/ -e s/sa110/arm/)
: I get the same message when I run
: make config
: make xconfig
: make zImage
: make bzImage etc.
: It would be nice to know what the cause of this problem is.
: Has anybody encountered this problem before, or know of any FAQs on this
: topic?
: Any help would be appreciated
: Cheers, james
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From: "ky_chiang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Slackware 7.1
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 18:30:05 +0800
Reply-To: "ky_chiang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi All :
I need to create a Slackware installation disk for installing
Slackware 7.1.
In red-hat system, creating isntallation disk : dd if=/boot.img /dev/fd0
bs=1440k
or
rawrite....
but Slackware 7.1 ?
rawrite ...? or need some parameters?........
Best regards.
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dual boot w/ win98 on secondary master
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:34:20 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
James Van't Slot wrote:
>
> I'm setting up my Linux machine to be dual boot.
> I have 3 disks and 1 cdrom.
> hda - Linux native
> hdb - Linux native (hda1 = /usr/local)
> hdc - win98
> hdd - cdrom
>
> I've tried a few things with LILO but when haven't been able to get
> anything to work with win98 just a blank screen with a flashin cursor.
> Linux boots fine, as does win98 when I unplug the first 2 disks off the
> primary IDE.
> Win98 seems to not mind that it is booting off the secondary IDE in this
> case.
>
> I just can't seem to get it to work from LILO.
>
> Any suggestions as to what the lilo.conf file should look like in this
> case?
> I've searched all the docs and all over the web but have not found any
> info on this particular situation.
> Thanks in advance.
map-drive=0x82
to=0x80
map-drive=0x80
to=0x82
for more detailed stuff, take a look at the site that svend-olaf
mentioned
Eric
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From: "Martin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: chmod within a skript
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:25:29 +0100
Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Martin Schmidt wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I beleive the preferred way to run shell scripts as super user is to
> > > run it through sudo.
> > >
> > > Villy
> >
> > Sudo will ask the user for his password then , right ?
> > That will be a drawback in my case .
> >
> > Martin
>
> Not if you set it up right,
> check the NOPASSWD option of sudo.
> It's (as usually) in the manpages
>
> Eric
I checked the man page and didnt find it ,
but maybe i was only too dumb .
I cant get the thing to work , if i type :
sudo USERNAME ls
i will be asked for a password .
Since users have no password , that means '!' in
/etc/shadow (users are authenticated via NT-PDC) ,
I just pressed enter but no output will show .
Doesn't sudo work with '!' passwords ?
Martin
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Dual Boot Caldera 2.4 and Win2K
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:43:55 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ken wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I just installed a second hard drive in my Windows 2000 machine and have
> installed Caldera OpenLinux 2.4 on it. I did not put Linux in the MBR and
> used the command line:
>
> dd if=/dev/hdb1 bs=512 count=1 of=linux.img
>
> I then FTPed the image to another machine on my LAN (because I was unable to
> access my floppy drive under Linux). I booted Windows and got the image
> file off the FTP server. I copied it to my root directory of /dev/hda1, my
> Windows partition. I added the line C:\linux.img="Caldera OpenLinux
> eDesktop 2.4" to my boot.ini file. For one reason or another I can't get
> Linux to load. Any ideas?
>
Are you sure the LILO code is in hdb1?
It is where lilo.conf claims boot is.
Perhaps you didn't make a binary FTP?
Why does your floppy not work?
Perhaps you should solve that first.
1) Put an empty floppy in the drive
2) mkdosfs /dev/fd0
3) mkdir /mnt/floppy
4) mount -t /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
5) cp linux.img /mnt/floppy
6) umount /mnt/floppy
7) put the floppy in the windows PC
If any step fails, post the exact error message here
Just as a hint, make a FAT32 partition in this PC. Both win2000 and
linunx can write to that. This makes transferring data between the two
OS's a lot easier.
Eric
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Stuck
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:46:34 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sam Biebaut wrote:
>
> when Linux (redhat, oficial 6) is installed i reboot my comp like they ask.
> but when i reboor my comp is sitting stuck well i'm a terrible newbee at
> that sort of things. if someone could help me, my comp is and ''dell Xpi 133
> mhz''(laptop)
> everything is going perfect till i have to restart my computer
Hoi Sam,
You will have to give more information than this.
Does LILO (or any of these characters) appear?
As we don't have access to your PC, you will have to be very specific on
what goes wrong, how it goes wrong and what you have tried.
Groeten,
Eric
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From: "Wouter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Connection problem whit KDE
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:56:01 +0100
Hi,
A have installt mandrake 7.1 and now a have a problem whit connect to the
internet. I try to make a Kppp conectoin but when i try to connect i have
the folow problem.
Nov 28 12:57:42 DopeY pppd[551]: pppd 2.3.11 started by root, uid 0
Nov 28 12:57:42 DopeY pppd[551]: Using interface ppp0
Nov 28 12:57:42 DopeY pppd[551]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1
Nov 28 12:57:43 DopeY pppd[551]: Peer is not authorized to use remote
address 212.64.83.254
Nov 28 12:57:43 DopeY pppd[551]: Connection terminated.
Nov 28 12:57:43 DopeY pppd[551]: Connect time 0.1 minutes.
Nov 28 12:57:43 DopeY pppd[551]: Sent 240 bytes, received 210 bytes.
Nov 28 12:57:43 DopeY pppd[551]: Exit.
Can somebody tell me whats wrong ?
Greetz
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Makefile: where is arch/i386/boot?
Date: 28 Nov 2000 10:59:23 GMT
james <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi, I'm relatively new to Linux and I'm trying to configure the ISDN
>subsystem module for my kernel. I'm running Caldera 2.4 with the 2.2.14
>Kernel. Having read much documentation / FAQs, I haven't got further than
>menuconfig:
>
>[root@noname linux]# make menuconfig
>Makefile:213: arch/i386/Makefile: No such file or directory
>Makefile:481: Rules.make: No such file or directory
>make: *** No rule to make target `Rules.make'. Stop.
Sounds like you haven't got a complete kernel source tree. I believe
Caldera ships kernel-headers and kernel-source packages, and you need
both. Failing that, you can get the full source tree from
<URL:ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/>.
Cheers,
--
Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"F(x) = d(y)/d(x)" "This isn't the equation we're looking
for. Move along." - [EMAIL PROTECTED], rec.arts.sf.written
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From: Keith McGaughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Installing on laptop without cdrom?
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:48:16 +1100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I'm trying to install RH6.2 on a laptop without ide cdrom.
I have installed redhat 6.1 to a 486 via a laplink cable from my main linux box
set up main box for NFS and exported the cdrom directory
start the laptop with the netboot floppy (image on cdrom)
use the plip option when ask for network card type
It was slow but worked fine and it was a while ago so the details may be wrong so
check the docs
I tried 6.2 but it would not connect something was wrong (different machines)
best of luck
Keith McGaughran
Sydney Australia
The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance.
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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newbie start
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 22:03:52 +1100
Dimitris Tsakoniatis wrote:
> Hi, I am trying to start with Linux and I dont know how.
Welcome to Linux-land!
>
> I start with Dos on PCs and then Windows, and I want to start Linux from
> there too.
Same here, from DOS ver 2.11 onward with Windows 3.11.
If you passed through those then you are more than ready for Linux.
Get a good book on Unix/Linux administration, the style from command line
and then buy a CD.
The programms on any distribution CD are compiled against the same libraries
and should work without problems.
Only later you will learn how to install downloaded programs.
Actually Slackware distribution includes ZipSlak and BigSlak, those are full
distributions of Linux in zip format ready
to be unzipped ON FAT partitions. They should be used as appetisers.
Enjoy Linux.
Stanislaw.
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