Linux-Setup Digest #149, Volume #20 Sat, 2 Dec 00 15:13:09 EST
Contents:
Re: kvm switch (John Beardmore)
Re: synchronise the date (Gareth Randall)
Re: Configuring POP3 (Gareth Randall)
Oh YUCK!!! (C. L. Lewis)
Re: amd k6 i586-compatible? (want to install Mandrake) - or which Linux (Gareth
Randall)
Re: Oh YUCK!!! (Thomas Zajic)
Re: Telenet would not work from Win98 ---> Linux (Ming Fai LI)
Re: Telenet would not work from Win98 ---> Linux (Ming Fai LI)
Re: RH.. [Ctrl]+[Alt]+[Del] -> poweroff (Alex Fitterling)
Sv: X windows ("Jesper K. Pedersen")
Re: Telenet would not work from Win98 ---> Linux (DualIP)
Re: Oh YUCK!!! (Andreas Tretow)
Re: help newbie with configuring squid ("Allan")
Re: Setting up a NIC (RH7 doesn't detect) (Genesis)
Booting with 576KB conventional RAM ...or less. (Juan)
I need a good book on Sendmail ("Lamar Thomas")
RH 7.0 Sucks (was Re: Oh YUCK!!!) (Dale Huckeby)
Re: I need a good book on Sendmail (Dale Huckeby)
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From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kvm switch
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 11:28:28 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Charlie Gibbs
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>In article <XqfzqoMgI$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Beardmore) writes:
>>In article <903sbu$rf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Luke Richards
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>>I have recently bought a Belkin kvm switch and x now does not want to
>>>recognize anything. I have RH 6.2 and I use the utility Xconfigurator
>>>and it just keeps coming back with an error that it don't work.
>>
>>How do you know it's a KVM problem ? Try a direct link to check. It
>>would be interesting if the KVM switch could make it fail, but I fixed
>>my X problems by changing video card, not by rewiring the video !
>
>Could it be your video card? I have an old MS-DOS box on a video
>switch, and if the monitor isn't switched to it when I boot it, the
>video card locks itself into monochrome mode so hard that not even
>its setup utility can force it back into colour mode.
Strange ! I've never seen that.
>Does your problem happen all the time, or just when bring up X
>with the KVM switch set to the other machine? I think some video
>cards are very sensitive to whether there's anything connected to
>them during setup.
I tried a number of cards, but let's focus on two old Number 9 cards.
Both power up OK and work with SRM, and I can boot Linux in text mode.
Both cards will work in X in colour and both have a few meg of memory,
but of the two cards, the newer one is limited to 640*480 in 16 colours,
and the older is running at 1024*768 in 65k colours.
I'd assumed this was a driver problem. What feedback could the monitor
try to give the card that the KVM switch could loose ?
>Aside from that, my only problem with KVM switches is that those
>cheap boxes wear out fast, and I have to jiggle the knobs a lot
>to get good contact.
The only problem with this Black Box switch is that it is damned
expensive, but at least it does the switching electronically from the
keyboard.
> I'd love to get a fancy electronic box, but
>I'm sharing two monitors among my group of machines (it's really
>handy to watch two machines at once sometimes), and I'd hate to
>think of what a 2x8 matrix switch would cost, if such a thing
>even exists.
Yes, it does. That's what I'm using. Black Box, model KV132A.
You buy a chassis to which you can add up to four cards. Each card has
four ins and one out so it will build to a 4x16 switch if needs be.
The problem is that not only are the box and cards expensive, but the
cables are ludicrously expensive !
> On top of that, a separate keyboard/mouse switch
>would be nice so I could get rid of some of the four keyboards
>that are cluttering my desk...
This switched those too. Having moaned about the price, I certainly
wouldn't be without it ! Going back would be unthinkable !
Cheers, J/.
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John Beardmore
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From: Gareth Randall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: synchronise the date
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 16:34:15 +0000
Xavier Houppertz wrote:
>
> hi there,
>
> I run linux on different sites and would like to synchronise the date and
> time with the master server automatically once a month (i will put the file
> in cron.monthly).
For synchronising from one ntp server:
ntpdate <IP>
You can also use "rdate", which uses the time service provided by inetd on most
systems, thus avoiding the need to set up an ntp server.
Ideally, you would sync at least one (the master) machine to a known-good internet
server. e.g. ntpdate ntp.demon.co.uk
Yours,
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======= Gareth Randall =======
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From: Gareth Randall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,redhat.config
Subject: Re: Configuring POP3
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 16:41:03 +0000
David Durham wrote:
>
> I am trying to set up a server with sendmail and assume that POP must be
> configured to run as well.
>
> Could someone please help with a step-bystep guide? I have tried to edit
> inetd.conf but that does not seem to help.
>
> Thanks in anticipation.
>
> -David
If you only "assume" that POP must need to run, then you might not really need it. If
you are wanting to draw in mail to your server from POP3 accounts on remote servers,
then you want to look at fetchmail which will do this. Fetchmail will then feed it in
to your local SMTP (25/tcp) port, the same as all of your other incoming mail.
Sendmail can then organise its delivery.
You need a POP3 server only if you want others to be able to draw their mail out of
your mail server to remote locations.
Hope this saves you some trouble!
======= Gareth Randall =======
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From: C. L. Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Oh YUCK!!!
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 16:41:57 GMT
Installed Mandrake 7.2 night before last and it went on so damned simple
and I can't find anything wrong with it, that all the fun's gone out of
Linux.
Anyone know of a new, big, hairy, scary, Linux distribution that takes
some tinkering to get it out of the box. ;-)
Charles
--
Laughter is the best laxative there is for a constipated mind. Humor is
an ideal spoon to dose it.
--Chronocidal Charlie, 1995-2000, RIP--
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Gareth Randall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: amd k6 i586-compatible? (want to install Mandrake) - or which Linux
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 16:54:36 +0000
Bjoern Guenzel wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> I'm just downloading Mandrake Linux, but I have an AMD K6 processor, so I am
> not sure if the i586-version (pentium optimised?) will work with it?
>
It's worth pointing out that once you get to the point where you can recompile your
kernel, you get to choose what processor it's compiled for, and hence it can take
advantage of the later features of superior processors. Choices are:
386, 486/Cx486, 586/K5/5x86/6x86, Pentium/K6/TSC, PPro/6x86MX
As you asked, I am using Debian 2.2 on an AMD K6-2. Memory requirements for what you
could call the core systems (kernel, X, icewm, a few daemons) are less than 20MB.
======= Gareth Randall =======
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Subject: Re: Oh YUCK!!!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 17:15:02 GMT
On Sat, 02 Dec 2000 16:41:57 GMT, C. L. Lewis wrote:
> [ ... ]
> Anyone know of a new, big, hairy, scary, Linux distribution that takes
> some tinkering to get it out of the box. ;-)
<http://freshmeat.net/projects/rocklinux/?highlight=rocklinux> 8-)
Thomas
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From: Ming Fai LI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Telenet would not work from Win98 ---> Linux
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 00:16:39 +0800
On Sat, 02 Dec 2000 13:36:29 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Despite the version 0.50 the F10 still won't work during remote SuSe
installation.
F10 function is there when i am using mc. Now the problem boils down
to speific for the installation of SuSe remotely via Telnet.
Any suggestion and how to get help. There is no specific newsgroup
thatl discuss the SuSe.
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Ming Fai LI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I've also tried the PuTTY, it can telnet the linux box without problem
>> but the configuration only mention the functions for F1 to F5
>
>Yes, I hadn't noticed that, I just updated to PuTTY v0.50
>and it has new options for the F key mode:
>ESC[~n_, linux, Xterm R6, VT100.
>(ESC[~n_ makes F10 work for me in mc, etc.)
>Also ver 0.50 no longer specifies that the settings only apply
>to the F1-F5 keys (as in ver0.48) so it may include all F-keys.
>Perhaps the newer version will work better for you.
>
>> I still have problem with F10 during the installation.
>
>Hmmm, all the F-keys just work for me, though I don't use the Suse
>installer so I can't check if it works for that.
>
>> On the other hand how can you know you are using the SSH protocols and
>> not normal telnet sessions if you happen to forget to click the right
>> option?
>
>You could check the connection logs in /var/log/messages.
>
>HTH
>Bluster
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
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From: Ming Fai LI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Telenet would not work from Win98 ---> Linux
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 00:17:59 +0800
On Sat, 02 Dec 2000 11:04:25 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(DualIP) wrote:
>On Sat, 02 Dec 2000 06:53:03 +0800, Ming Fai LI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>I am trying to update and change the configuration files of my linux
>>box via telnet from another window 98 machine inside my home LAN.
>>
>>For all the telnet client programs that I've downloaded, the F10 key
>>just doesn't work.
>>
>>So:
>>
>>1. How can I make F10 key work in my telnet client program?
>>2. Is there any recommended telnet client program for Win 98 machines?
>>3. What is the other way that i can remotely change the configuration
>>files and do installations form Window 98 machines to my Linux box?
>>
>>I am using Suse Linux 6.2 F10 is important because after choosing a
>>package from the CD ROM, it need F10 to confirm the selection to
>>continue the selection. The scenerio now is pressing F10 will give an
>>equivalent ESC effect and installation cannot be continued.
>
>I use CRT3.1 to telnet into my RH62 box.
>
>F10 simply works , (at least in midnight commander) for other function
>keys I must use <ALT>-1 instead of F1
The how to emulate F10?
>
>DualIP
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From: Alex Fitterling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH.. [Ctrl]+[Alt]+[Del] -> poweroff
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 18:39:02 +0100
"Jan Oberl�nder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> ..and where to setup the behavior of the upper (in the subject)
>> described keybinding.. so that I might poweroff after pressing it,
>> instead of having the system restarted ?
> In your /etc/inittab is a line like this:
> ca::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t3 -r now
> replace the -r by a -h, and it'll do what you want.
Danke Jan. :)
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From: "Jesper K. Pedersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Sv: X windows
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 18:45:24 +0100
Well... At least you know how to do it now :-)
But there is an easier way...
Use the rpmfind utility that is available. If you go to rpmfind (root server
I think of rpm releases) you can get it there...
Then when you want to update/install a package you do a rpmfind --upgrade
I think it is. That will upgrade both the package and all dependancies.
Best regards
Jesper K. Pedersen
SolNet Data Service
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev i en
nyhedsmeddelelse:%G_V5.45441$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> That's the way it goes. You just gotta download all the packages it tells
> tells you it depends on and install those. BIG pain in teh ass. I just
> updated gnome the other day. All i wanted to update was gnome and I ended
> up having to update 25+ packages total due to depencies.
>
> "Darren and Marla Welson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:6VlV5.287178$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I installed RH62 on a router box without X, but now I want to be able to
> > start X remotely. When I go to install an RPM, I keep getting NUMEROUS
> > dependencies and do not know where to begin. Can someone tell me what X
> > related packages I need and in which order to add the RPMs?
> >
> >
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DualIP)
Subject: Re: Telenet would not work from Win98 ---> Linux
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 18:03:27 GMT
On Sun, 03 Dec 2000 00:17:59 +0800, Ming Fai LI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I use CRT3.1 to telnet into my RH62 box.
>>
>>F10 simply works , (at least in midnight commander) for other function
>>keys I must use <ALT>-1 instead of F1
>
>The how to emulate F10?
>>
Guess you missed this line:
>I use CRT3.1 to telnet into my RH62 box.
www.vandyke.com
It's a very luxe console/tty/vt100 etc program for windows machines
After install F10 simply worked...
DualIP
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From: Andreas Tretow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Oh YUCK!!!
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 18:12:43 +0000
I am experiencing quite a lot of trouble with RH 7 :-)
Probably not what you had in mind, right ?
Andreas
C. L. Lewis wrote:
> Installed Mandrake 7.2 night before last and it went on so damned simple
> and I can't find anything wrong with it, that all the fun's gone out of
> Linux.
>
> Anyone know of a new, big, hairy, scary, Linux distribution that takes
> some tinkering to get it out of the box. ;-)
>
> Charles
>
> --
> Laughter is the best laxative there is for a constipated mind. Humor is
> an ideal spoon to dose it.
> --Chronocidal Charlie, 1995-2000, RIP--
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
--
Andreas Tretow
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Allan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help newbie with configuring squid
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 18:04:41 -0000
Reply-To: "Allan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I have replied with conf file, via email. I have this working here,
in your scenario.
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From: Allan Kissack of http://www.kissack.co.uk
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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"Hung Ngoc Lai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:909vb7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
: Hi everyone,
:
: I am running Linux RH 6.1 (kernel 2.2.17) to connect my small LAN to
the
: internet via masquerading and ipchains. Everything is working
perfectly.
: Now, I would like to implement transparent web-caching server on the
Linux
: box to improve the speed for users on my network (I do understand
the pros
: and cons of transparent proxying). However, I could not find any
: information at http://www.squid-cache.org in implmentating
transparent
: caching with squid. The reason I like to implement transparent
proxying
: (or caching) is because I do not want to mess with configuring
client
: browsers. I consider myself a linux newbie even though I am pretty
good
: at recompiling the kernel and setting up my own mail server using
sendmail.
: If anyone has experience with configuring transparent caching with
squid,
: please show me how to do it.
:
: Regards,
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Setting up a NIC (RH7 doesn't detect)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Genesis)
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 18:33:54 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tagbo Ekwueme-Okoli) wrote in
<SZjS5.1758$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>How do you do that?
>
>Scott Nolde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Nicholas Pappas wrote:
>> >
>> > I just installed a new RH7 and am having trouble getting it
>> > connected to the network.
>> >
>> > On other RH systems I installed (6, 6.1 and 6.2) it picked my NICs
>> > up during install, but that didn't happen this time. I have done a
>> > complete install with both a D-Link and LynkSys card in the
>> > computer.
>> >
>> > Both cards have been put into different slots and both always show
>> > the green connection line, which also appears on the HUB -- so I
>> > know that the two are talking to eachother... it is just RH that
>> > can't seem to see
>it.
>> >
>> > I have no problem installing the NIC card "by hand", but I have not
>> > had to do this before and am unsure of the procedure. Can some kind
>> > Linux Guru please pass along any information that might help me
>> > install the
>card!
>> >
>> > Many thanks!
>> >
>> > Nick
>>
>> Turn PnP off in the BIOS?
>>
>> - Scott
>> --
>> Never do Windows again with | Scott M. Nolde
>> Linux! No streaks, haze or | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> glaze! |
>> 8:40pm up 7:58, 2 users, load average: 1.06, 1.03, 1.00
>
>
>
Hey,
Here is how to turn PnP off (roughly :-)
When your computer is booting, the BIOS (Basic Input / Output System)
should be listing info as it probes; IDE, Memory, etc.
It should also say something like "Press del to enter setup.", if so by
all means press del :-) If it does not say anything, like it is just a
splash screen just press when you see it, (a notable violator is Compaq)
you will need to just try different keys untill it works. If it is a
Compaq you will probably need to press F10 of F8, maybe del. I would not
worry about screwing things by pressing keys when it is booting, because
any critical setting should have an "Are you sure.." sort of thing.
Once you are in the BIOS conf screen, you will need to navigate the the
appropriate menu, read the on screen instructions to see how for your
particular BIOS.
Let me say that I can not be held responsible for you computer melting
down, and what not, etc.
This is just info, it is not to be used w/o common sense, your
mileage may vary, you know that sort of thing :-)
As for needing to to turn PnP off, you will have to decide if that
is necessary of not. As for me, and my LinkSys LNE100TX, I did not need to
fiddle with PnP. I shutdown, inserted card, restarted (did not detect (no
problem)) Linux, compiled the drivers, and installed the drivers, then I
restarted. I would not have had to restart, but I was not as knowledgeable
back then ;-) If you want help installing a LinkSys LNE100TX on a Red Hat
box, I could probably help, otherwise a good place to start is the
Ethernet HOWTO <http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Ethernet-HOWTO.html>.
It has lots of good info that is beyond the scope of this NG post ;-)
Hope this Helps,
Genesis
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From: Juan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Booting with 576KB conventional RAM ...or less.
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 20:06:42 +0100
Hi.
I've got a problem. A real one.
About three years ago we bought a killer machine (by thoose days), a
Fujitsu-ICL teamserver M754i, a quad PPro with 512MB RAM . The machine
has been running OK until the moment we needed to upgrade the OS (that
was UnixWare 2.1.2.) in order to install Oracle8i. The option were to
spend lots of money and learning time with Unixware 7 or to install (
tachannn!) Linux. We took the second option.
I've been installing RedHat for several years, so I took the RedHat 7
CD-ROMs tha I had on my table, and I have succesfully installed several
times in dual Pentium machines, and went to install the above mentioned
machine. Installation went fine, but it was unable to boot the OS after
finishing. After sometime discarding possible causes of the problem, I
disabled the SCSI BIOS and got enought memory to boot from the boot disk
made by the installation procedure. It would have been OK (not fine, but
OK) except for the fact that the kernell in the floppy disk was a NON
SMP kernel.
The BIOS told that the conventional memory available was 576 KB, no
matter what options I enabled or disabled in the BIOS. There was no
means to disable the system BIOS shadow on RAM, the only option left to
increase the conventional memory. On the other hand, the kernell, when
it boots, recognizes all the installed memory. I think the problem is
with the boot loader that is unable to fit the whole kernel in memory
due to the low ammount of conventional memory. Do you agree?
>From this point on I've tried several booting options :
- Making a boot disk with the smp kernel installed in the machine.
- Using syslinux instead of lilo.
- Compiling lilo with LARGE_EBDA enabled and making a boot disk.
- Using GRUB instead of lilo
- Using loadlin from a msdos 6.22 disk instead of lilo.
In the best cases the machine frozes after printing "OK, booting the
kernel" in the screen.
In the meantime I've got BootMagic and I'll try it on monday (if I dont
get any better suggestion).
Oh! Iforgot to tell you, I called Fujitsu support (Fujitsu Customer
Services) and I was told that there was no way of disabling the system
BIOS shadowing, that was a feature included in the design of the machine
and, by the way, Linux was not a supported OS for this machine. Good
luck and goodbye.
I would appreciate any suggesions, hints or workarounds to solve or
overcome this problem.
(Crying)
I've tried to cut my veins with a Windows98 CDROM, but it did not work
(even for this). Please help me!
(Serious again)
Thanks in advance.
Juan.
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From: "Lamar Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: I need a good book on Sendmail
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 19:32:11 GMT
Anyone know of a good book for Sendmail? I am running RedHat Linux 6.2. I
just went out and bought "Sendmail 2nd Ed." by O'Reilly press and I know
that it is a good book, but is it good for a Linux 6.2 system? After all,
the book was published back in Jan. 1997! Is it still DA BOOK to have?
Thanks for your help.
Lamar
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dale Huckeby)
Subject: RH 7.0 Sucks (was Re: Oh YUCK!!!)
Date: 2 Dec 2000 11:36:35 -0800
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Andreas Tretow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[that] C. L. Lewis wrote:
>
>> Installed Mandrake 7.2 night before last and it went on so damned simple
>> and I can't find anything wrong with it, that all the fun's gone out of
>> Linux.
>>
>> Anyone know of a new, big, hairy, scary, Linux distribution that takes
>> some tinkering to get it out of the box. ;-)
>
>I am experiencing quite a lot of trouble with RH 7 :-)
>Probably not what you had in mind, right ?
Not what I had in mind, either. Thanks to RH 7.0 screwing up my system,
but especially thanks to RH knowingly shipping a distro with a bug that
would bring down my system if not fixed right away (to which they supplied
the fix, but still . . . ), I swore off Redhat and ordered Mandrake 7.2
Powerpack on Thursday, 'cause I've been hearing such good things about it.
Can't wait to play.
Dale Huckeby
ps. Also didn't appreciate the hoops RH made me jump through in order to
get the support I was entitled to.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dale Huckeby)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: I need a good book on Sendmail
Date: 2 Dec 2000 11:49:47 -0800
In article <%6cW5.494810$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Lamar Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Anyone know of a good book for Sendmail? I am running RedHat Linux 6.2. I
>just went out and bought "Sendmail 2nd Ed." by O'Reilly press and I know
>that it is a good book, but is it good for a Linux 6.2 system? After all,
>the book was published back in Jan. 1997! Is it still DA BOOK to have?
>Thanks for your help.
I would think the O'Reilly book would be just fine, but see also
_Sendmail for Linux_, by Richard Blum, published this year by Macmillan.
The ISBN is 0-672-31834-2.
Dale Huckeby
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