Linux-Setup Digest #150, Volume #20 Sat, 2 Dec 00 17:13:11 EST
Contents:
Re: Oh YUCK!!! (C. L. Lewis)
Re: Booting with 576KB conventional RAM ...or less. ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Oh YUCK!!! (C. L. Lewis)
Re: Adding Win 98 to a linux machine. (Andy Kinsey)
Re: X windows (Andy Kinsey)
Re: QT 1.4 (headers and libraries) not found? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Bind questions (David Efflandt)
redhat 7.0 ("Willie Chan")
Re: I need a good book on Sendmail (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Re: Adding Win 98 to a linux machine. (Robert Kiesling)
Re: windows VFAT partitions too fat?! (Gill)
Re: I need a good book on Sendmail (root)
Re: Problem with nfsd (Mark Post)
RH7 ("Willie Chan")
e-mail problem - is it my setup ? ("Barry Samuels")
Help! I've lost my OS! ("HOMZ")
Re: monitor downloading (David Efflandt)
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From: C. L. Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Oh YUCK!!!
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 20:04:16 GMT
Appreciate it. Got it bookmarked.
Charles
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic) wrote:
--
Laughter is the best laxative there is for a constipated mind. Humor is
an ideal spoon to dose it.
--Chronocidal Charlie, 1995-2000, RIP--
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Booting with 576KB conventional RAM ...or less.
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 21:10:52 +0100
In comp.os.linux.misc Juan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> it boots, recognizes all the installed memory. I think the problem is
> with the boot loader that is unable to fit the whole kernel in memory
> due to the low ammount of conventional memory. Do you agree?
You are posting in the wrong forum, Take it to the kernel list.
But no, off the top of my head, 576KB should be fine for the loader,
particularly if it's a bzImage, which loads a bit, decompresses a bit,
loads a bit, decompresses a bit ... Yes, a zImage might have trouble.
> From this point on I've tried several booting options :
> - Making a boot disk with the smp kernel installed in the machine.
> - Using syslinux instead of lilo.
> - Compiling lilo with LARGE_EBDA enabled and making a boot disk.
> - Using GRUB instead of lilo
> - Using loadlin from a msdos 6.22 disk instead of lilo.
That should be the winner, provided it's a bzImage and you have a
loadlin that supports bzImage. Then again, maybe it's worth trying a
zImage with loadlin.
> In the best cases the machine frozes after printing "OK, booting the
> kernel" in the screen.
It looks like it's hitting the bios image in conventional memory, with
result death of bios, and dead machine because the bios is needed for
booting. You'll have to talk to the authors of the kernel boot code.
You might have to edit a bit of the kernels setup.c file that does
the reserviing of memory pages ... but no, you are getting hit before
that, when the machine is still in real mode.
I would guess that if you can boot NT, you might be able to use the NT
loader.
> In the meantime I've got BootMagic and I'll try it on monday (if I dont
> get any better suggestion).
Peter
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From: C. L. Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Oh YUCK!!!
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 20:15:47 GMT
Oops! ;-)
Spoke too soon. Just upgraded it to a 2.4.0-test10 and got some minor
glitches. My fault and not the distro's though.
Yeah, it was almost sickening. I date back to RH 5 and have been playing
with the various distros Deb, COL, FreeBSD etc, for a couple of years
and always expected to have to tinker a day or two on my old opl3sa2
sound card if nothing else.
May not be the same on a different machine and I may have just hit a
lucky one, but if it was all like this one was, I think it could damn
near be called grandma compatable. ;-)
Charles
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Andreas Tretow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Probably not what you had in mind, right ?
--
Laughter is the best laxative there is for a constipated mind. Humor is
an ideal spoon to dose it.
--Chronocidal Charlie, 1995-2000, RIP--
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Andy Kinsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Adding Win 98 to a linux machine.
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 15:36:37 -0500
I've been under the impression that if you install Win '98 AFTER Linux,
you will ruin your Linux installation. At the very least, you will
overwrite the MBR on the 1st hard drive, erasing LILO. That's about all
I know about it at this point.
Hope this helps,
Andy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
> I have redhat 6.2 running on my Inspiron Laptop.
>
> Due to the requirements of my current project(a driver
> is available only on Win 95/98), I have to install Windows 98
> on this machine.
>
> I don't want to lose my linux partition. Is there any *SAFE* method
> to add windows 95/98 to a linux machine? I know partition magic. But, I
> am not sure whether it is a safe option though.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> deva
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: Andy Kinsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: X windows
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 15:41:32 -0500
What if you did a re-install, and instead of actually formatting and
re-installing, selected "Upgrade" and installed the packages you wanted?
Just a thought...
Andy
Darren and Marla Welson wrote:
> I installed RH62 on a router box without X, but now I want to be able to
> start X remotely. When I go to install an RPM, I keep getting NUMEROUS
> dependencies and do not know where to begin. Can someone tell me what X
> related packages I need and in which order to add the RPMs?
>
>
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: QT 1.4 (headers and libraries) not found?
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 21:46:00 +0100
Robert van de Ridder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - Should I install KDE2 first?
> - Should I alter anything in my BIOS to get the SB Live to work?
> - How do I get the system to recognize the QT 1.4? or
> - How can I install QT 2.2?
Don't do any of these things. All you need is bzip2. Get it and install
it. If you don't want to compile it, get an rpm or a deb or a tgz.
SB live's work sort of OK. I have one in my P166 right now. But I
prefer the SB16 that's also in there. So much less hassle. But you
gotta admit that the alsa driver tree looks much prettier when loaded
than the plain old "sb.o"!
> As you may notice from this message I am trying very hard to get Linux to
> work. I hope you can help me with this effort because I am sick of the
You're trying too hard. Things are easy and you're making them look
hard (this is a common students mistake, by the way!).
> 'speed' of W2K.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Bind questions
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 21:00:25 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 02 Dec 2000 09:04:02 GMT, John Hanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm running Linux RedHat 7.0 and want to enable a DNS.
>
>I installed the following RPM packages:
>
>bind-8.2.2_P5-25.i386.rpm
>bind-utils-8.2.2_P5-25.i386.rpm
>caching-nameserver-7.0-6.noarch.rpm
>
>Section 3 in the DNS How-To
>(http://howto.tucows.com/LDP/HOWTO/DNS-HOWTO.html) talks about the folder
>'pz' (/var/named/pz) and the file 'root.hints' (/var/named/root.hints),
>neither of which exist on my machine. Do I create these on my own? The
>How-To isn't completely clear.
pz is an example of a directory you can create under /var/named for your
own private zone(s). It can be any name, as long as it matches the
subpath put in /etc/named.conf for those forward and reverse lookup zone
files.
RH calls the root.hints file named.ca (I guess for caching named). So if
you want to update it, you can simply do 'dig' and then select one of the
resulting servers like:
dig @H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET . ns > /var/named/named.ca
>Also, I don't have a real domain of my own (my cable modem provider won't
>allow it.) In my resolv.conf file, should I associate my ISP's domain with
>search and list my localhost as the first nameserver? For example:
I simply use localdomain for my LAN domain, although, you could also use
linux.bogus like in the DNS-HOWTO. Just don't use a name or primary
domain that might be real. For example 'mydomain.com' is a real
registered domain.
>search my-isp-domain.com
>nameserver 127.0.0.1 (localhost)
>nameserver x.x.xx.x (my ISPs nameserver)
You don't need any other nameservers in resolv.conf if your named is
always running (from boot scripts). You can configure named.conf to
check your ISP's nameservers first (quicker) before root servers. But I
use a couple of ISPs, so I just use the root servers. My resolv.conf is
just:
search localdomain xnet.com
nameserver 127.0.0.1
My LAN box (just a laptop on crossover cable) uses the LAN IP of my main
box for nameserver.
Since I don't want to worry about any bind cracks, the options of my
named.conf only listens on private IPs:
listen-on { 127/8; 10/8; 172.16/16; 192.168/16; };
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From: "Willie Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: redhat 7.0
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 21:03:55 GMT
hi
will I have any problem to run the linux from a logical drive instead of
primary drive?
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Re: I need a good book on Sendmail
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 21:10:18 GMT
"Lamar Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Anyone know of a good book for Sendmail? I am running RedHat Linux 6.2. I
> just went out and bought "Sendmail 2nd Ed." by O'Reilly press and I know
> that it is a good book, but is it good for a Linux 6.2 system? After all,
> the book was published back in Jan. 1997! Is it still DA BOOK to have?
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Lamar
I also would suggest the Sendmail documentation which comes as part of
the installation. I think Red Hat keeps it in a seperate sendmail-docs
RPM if I am not mistaken. It is not a comprehensive book but helps you
with the basic settings.
--
Prasanth Kumar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Adding Win 98 to a linux machine.
From: Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 21:15:13 GMT
Keep two boot diskettes on hand, one for each OS. That insures
no matter which OS you break, you'll be able to boot either one.
Andy Kinsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've been under the impression that if you install Win '98 AFTER
> Linux, you will ruin your Linux installation. At the very least, you
> will overwrite the MBR on the 1st hard drive, erasing LILO. That's
> about all I know about it at this point.
>
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Andy
>
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > I have redhat 6.2 running on my Inspiron Laptop.
> > Due to the requirements of my current project(a driver
>
> > is available only on Win 95/98), I have to install Windows 98
> > on this machine.
> > I don't want to lose my linux partition. Is there any *SAFE* method
>
> > to add windows 95/98 to a linux machine? I know partition magic. But, I
> > am not sure whether it is a safe option though.
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> > deva
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>
> > Before you buy.
>
>
--
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Linux FAQ Maintainer
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From: Gill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: windows VFAT partitions too fat?!
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 23:14:02 +0200
Eric,
here are the results of fdisk -l /dev/hda
(note that that machine is not connected to anything yet, so im basicly
looking at its screen and typing it in here - i hope for no typos):
-=-
disk /dev/hda: 255 heads 63 sectors 2498 cylinders
units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
device boot start end blocks id system
/dev/hda1 * 1 255 2048224+ b win95 fat32
partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary:
phys=(1023,15,63) should be (1023,254,63)
/dev/hda2 255 638 3072384 83 linux
partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary:
phys=(1023,15,63) should be (1023,254,63)
/dev/hda3 638 703 524664 82 linux swap
partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary:
phys=(1023,15,63) should be (1023,254,63)
/dev/hda4 703 2499 14420448 5 extended
partition 4 does not end on cylinder boundary:
phys=(1023,15,63) should be (1023,254,63)
/dev/hda5 703 1086 3072352+ 83 linux
/dev/hda6 1086 1596 4095976+ b win95 fat32
/dev/hda7 1596 2499 7252024+ b win95 fat32
-=-
comments:
a. its a quantum fireball plus lm 20.5GB atapi
b. hmm... is fat32 different then vfat?
(but then again hda1 is recognized)
c. and whats all the cylinder boundary stuff...
Appreciate any help!
-Gill
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: I need a good book on Sendmail
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 09:30:01 -0600
Sendmail for linux sold by SAMS and authored by RICHARD BLUM.
Dale Huckeby wrote:
> In article <%6cW5.494810$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Lamar Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Anyone know of a good book for Sendmail? I am running RedHat Linux 6.2. I
> >just went out and bought "Sendmail 2nd Ed." by O'Reilly press and I know
> >that it is a good book, but is it good for a Linux 6.2 system? After all,
> >the book was published back in Jan. 1997! Is it still DA BOOK to have?
> >Thanks for your help.
>
> I would think the O'Reilly book would be just fine, but see also
> _Sendmail for Linux_, by Richard Blum, published this year by Macmillan.
> The ISBN is 0-672-31834-2.
>
> Dale Huckeby
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Post)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Problem with nfsd
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 21:37:11 GMT
On Sat, 02 Dec 2000 15:48:58 +0300, Grigory Klyuchnikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Hello,
>I has a problem with NFS server on SUSE Linux 7.0.
-snip-
> Nov 29 07:59:45 bog kernel: Unable to handle kernel paging request at
>virtual address b041000c
>Nov 29 07:59:45 bog kernel: current->tss.cr3 = 00101000, %cr3 = 00101000
>Nov 29 07:59:45 bog kernel: *pde = 00000000
>Nov 29 07:59:45 bog kernel: Oops: 0000
This is what is called a kernel oops. Since you are running a 2.2.16
kernel, you should probably upgrade to 2.2.17 before you report the oops to
the kernel development mailing list, and if 2.2.18 comes out soon, you
should probably upgrade to _that_ before reporting it. Once you have
upgraded your kernel, if the problem still exists, then you'll need to have
the ksymoops package installed to 'decode' the oops messages before you send
it to the mailing list. The mailing list address is
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mark Post
Postmodern Consulting
Information Technology and Systems Management Consulting
To send me email, replace 'nospam' with 'home'.
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From: "Willie Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: RH7
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 21:34:48 GMT
hi,
i installed redhat 7.0 on my laptop succesfully...but when it reboot, it
freezes on "Loading Linux"....
then i try to reboot it and try again, another message comes out after
loading linux message
Invalid Compress format (err=1)
System halted
anybody know why and solution??...
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From: "Barry Samuels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: e-mail problem - is it my setup ?
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 21:39:18 +0000
I've had some e-mails rejected by AOL recently with a message something
like 'we are no longer accepting e-mails from dynamic IPs. You should ask
your ISP to re-route your mail through their SMTP server'.
I always thought that all my e-mails went to my ISP's mail server and was
sent on from there. Is my setup wrong or have I missed something?
Barry Samuels
Debian 2.2 running Procmail, Exim and Fetchmail.
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From: "HOMZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,corelsupport.linux.corellinux,corelsupport.linux.install,corelsupport.linux.set_up_config,corelsupport.paradox-dos,dc.org.linux-users,ed.linux,linux.dev.newbie
Subject: Help! I've lost my OS!
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 22:05:55 GMT
Any help would be greatly appreciated. I recently purchased the Corel/LINUX
os, hoping to learn a bit more about it, now I've lost it! I'm in windows,
my system boots to windows, and windows sees the ext2 partition as blank
space.
I would like to know how to get back into my LINUX os from this point, but I
would also like to know how to create an efficient boot file that would
allow me to choose my OS at every start-up.
Well, if you think you can help, here are the specifics of what I have done
to get me to this point:
First I wiped out my HD and set partitions for DOS and Windows.
Second, I installed LINUX on an unpartioned space. That went well.
Third, I installed DOS on C: and WinNT on D:, that went well also.
At this point, my PC would boot to LINUX, even though C had been set as the
active partition. LINUX would give me a choice between LINUX or Windows, if
I clicked on Windows, it would send me over to the windows boot file which
would then give me a choice between DOS and WinNT.
(note: I am using NT here because I am a networking Major and need it at
this time. However, I wish to use win9x most frequently on this PC)
Finally, I installed WinMe on the D: drive, beside the NT. This works fine,
I am using it at this moment. The problem is, I can not figure out how to
access LINUX at all! The boot process has totally changed, now, when I boot
up, all I get is the option to start Me or NT and Windows and DOS do not see
the EXT2 partition at all.
I have considered reinstalling LINUX, but there is where I ran into trouble
in the first place. When I first tried to install LINUX into an empty dos
partition, (E), even though I did not tell it to take over the entire HD, it
did wipe out Windows and leave most of my files unsalvagable. This is the
reason I installed LINUX first and Windows last.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much.
Kim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: monitor downloading
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 22:08:08 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 2 Dec 2000 07:14:33 -0800, Dean Kwak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>i want to monitor if a downloading job is finished or not. i have a
>network monitor opened but not sure if the software i'm trying to download
>is done or not. Is there any gui tool or command line to monitor a
>specific downloading job?
>
>thanks for your time
>
>please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You don't give a clue what method or tool you are using for the download.
You could try any of a dozen programs that indicate progress: ncftp, gftp,
netscape, etc. Or maybe you just need to read the man pages of the tool
you are using.
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