Linux-Setup Digest #151, Volume #20 Sat, 2 Dec 00 20:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: redhat 7.0 (Bit Twister)
Re: Email help requested (Chris Ward)
Re: How to start the Gnome GUI? (Chris Ward)
Re: FIPS Problems (Chris Ward)
Re: SSH (David Efflandt)
Re: e-mail problem - is it my setup ? (Paul Kimoto)
Re: I need a good book on Sendmail (Larry Jansch)
Is Sendmail working? ("Lamar Thomas")
Re: e-mail problem - is it my setup ? ("Peter T. Breuer")
CORRECTION (Alex Fitterling)
Sound Not Always Working for Users (Larry)
Re: Is Sendmail working? (Alan Westhagen)
STOP getty..............howto?? (DTi4565459)
help with smb printing. ("busware")
Re: Is Sendmail working? (Anita Lewis)
Re: STOP getty..............howto?? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Oh YUCK!!! (Cliff Sarginson)
Re: ppp script (Cliff Sarginson)
Re: RH62 vs RH70 config files diff (Cliff Sarginson)
cd player help???????redhat 7.0 ("vertical profit")
looking for video capture card for linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
boot disk? Re: How should I install Linux and Win2K (dual boot) ("HOMZ")
Re: STOP getty..............howto?? (DTi4565459)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bit Twister)
Subject: Re: redhat 7.0
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 22:22:49 GMT
On Sat, 02 Dec 2000 21:03:55 GMT, Willie Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>will I have any problem to run the linux from a logical drive instead of
>primary drive?
You should not have a problem. Do do a custom/expert install
so you can pick the drive/parition during install.
Partition Magic or fips can shrink dos partitions.
Partition Magic can change the ids.
Linux fdisk can change ids.
dos fdisk wipes out win9x
You change d:, g:, and h: ids to ext2,swap,ext2
before after
dos fdisk linux fdisk id changes
.------------------. .------------------. Used dos fdisk to create
| Primary Partition| | Primary Partition| logical disks with lables.
| c: win9x | | c: win9x |
| 1.5 gig | | 1.5 gig | Used linux fdisk to change
`------------------' `------------------' logical disk ids to swap/ext2
.------------------. .------------------. ids for disk durid
| Extended | | Extended |
| Partition| | Partition|
| .-------------. | | .-------------. | /boot needs to be below
| |d: boot | | | | /boot | | 1024 cylinder
| | 64m | | | | 64m ext2 | | for dual booting by lilo
| `-------------' | | `-------------' |
| .-------------. | | .-------------. |
| |e: | | | |d: | |
| `-------------' | | `-------------' | Linux install needs to
| .-------------. | | .-------------. | know where "/" and swap
| |f: | | | |e: | | and "/boot" are to be installed
| `-------------' | | `-------------' |
| .-------------. | | .-------------. |
| |g: swap | | | | swap | | linux swap
| | 128m | | | | 128m swap | |
| `-------------' | | `-------------' |
| .-------------. | | .-------------. |
| |h: linux | | | | / | |
| | 4gig | | | | 4gig ext2 | | linux's main
| `-------------' | | `-------------' | partiton
`------------------' `------------------'
"Standard" or "Normal" mode in the BIOS: 1024 cyl = 528M
"Large" mode in the BIOS: 1024 cyl = 2G
"LBA" mode in the BIOS: 1024 cyl = 8G
Swap should be at least as big as your memory or 2x.
Extended partiton can be created on a second disk if you like.
You might want to select custom/expert type install.
Redhat and Mandrake will wipe the C: disk when you pick without
custom/expert installation.
The size of / depends on how much stuff you load.
I used up almost 4 gig with the Mandrake Deluxe 4 cd set.
Picked Development install, and loaded sql servers, Star Office,
4 or 5 window managers,......
=========================================================
http://cart.cheapbytes.com/cgi-bin/cart
under CheapBytes CDs (top left)
contains linux Install cds for ~2 and up + shipping
Redhat 6.2 x86 install and doc cd ($3.45)
Linux Mandrake 7.1 (GPL Version) (~$4)
For people accross the pond, http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk
Mandrake 7.1 is based on Redhat, has more utilities a much
better user friendly installer. Pick Workstation install.
For hardware compatibility
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/fhard.php3
http://www.redhat.com/corp/support/hardware/index.html
I get several people at work to go in on my credit card
and I get my shipping reduced to $1 a cd when we split
shipping.
--
The warranty and liability expired as you read this message.
If the above breaks your system, it's yours and you keep both pieces.
Practice safe computing. Backup the file before you change it.
Do a, man command_here or cat command_here, before using it.
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From: Chris Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Email help requested
Reply-To: Chris Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 22:23:06 +0000
On Fri, 01 Dec 2000 10:30:33 -0600, DJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have just installed RH 6.2, and am having difficulties with email. I
>have tried using pigmy (gnome) and kmail (kde) but cannot get
>attachments to save properly. In fact when multiple attachments are sent
>in an email, saving the file saves all the attachments in one file. Any
>help or pointers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>
>DJ
In kmail, right click on the icon for the attachment and select from the
pop-up menu. Or is that what you are doing and it doesn't work properly?
Chris Ward.
Apply ROT13 to get e-mail address
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From: Chris Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to start the Gnome GUI?
Reply-To: Chris Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 22:23:05 +0000
On Sat, 02 Dec 2000 14:52:02 +0000, "Vigil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Look in ~/.xinitrc and replace gnome with kde.
>
>"Bruce W.1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> had the audacity to claim:
>
>> Thank you. It worked. How do you start the KDE GUI?
Or, startx kde
Chris Ward.
Apply ROT13 to get e-mail address
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From: Chris Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FIPS Problems
Reply-To: Chris Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 22:23:06 +0000
On Sat, 02 Dec 2000 02:57:12 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I am tring to resise the Win98 FAT32 partition on my machine. The HD
>is 10GB and i would like to have a 2GB Linux Native partition and the
>rest for winblows. Now i have used FIPS on another machine with no
>problem. but for some reason this machine has a cluster that winblows
>defrag won't move close to the end of the drive. The result is that i
>can only get a 800M partition. I have tried turning off winblows swap
>file and re-defragin' but that damn cluster won't move. Can anyone
>help me with this?
>
Are you using the "consolidate free space" option in defrag?
Chris Ward.
Apply ROT13 to get e-mail address
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: SSH
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 22:31:48 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 2 Dec 2000, Alex Fitterling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I have a question according to a ssh-connect.
>What means following error-msg. (It appears right after login attempt
>with ssh 'name'@'host')
>
>warning: Need basic cursor movement capablity, using vt100
I wonder what your TERM is, maybe the server does not know
TERM=linux. Does it work any better from an xterm, which is more widely
recognized? I specifically have commands in my login on my ISP to change
TERM=linux to TERM=vt100.
>warning: Authentication failed.
>Disconnected; MAC error (Message authentication check fails.).
Do you have the same ssh major version that is on the other system
(version 1 or 2)? Do you have ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file on the remote
system containing the identity.pub file contents related to the
~/.ssh/identity file on your system?
Do you really have quotes within the 'name'@'host'? Maybe your box is
trying to connect to the wrong host or it doesn't quite know your
username because of the unusual quotes.
>Do I use a different ssh-version then then that one installed on this
>host ? Or what exactly is MAC ?
Sounds like a mnumonic for 'Message Authentication Check' which it
mentions in the error. One thing about ssh is that it is not supposed to
give much clue why it failed, to make it harder to crack.
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: e-mail problem - is it my setup ?
Date: 2 Dec 2000 17:43:40 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <90bq5h$5u3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Barry Samuels wrote:
> I've had some e-mails rejected by AOL recently with a message something
> like 'we are no longer accepting e-mails from dynamic IPs. You should ask
> your ISP to re-route your mail through their SMTP server'.
>
> I always thought that all my e-mails went to my ISP's mail server and was
> sent on from there. Is my setup wrong or have I missed something?
> Debian 2.2 running Procmail, Exim and Fetchmail.
You configure your MTA (exim) either (1) to deliver mail (more-or-less)
directly to the recipient's mail system, or (2) to forward mail to a "smart
host" (e.g., some machine at your ISP), which in turn takes care of sending
the mail on toward the recipient.
It sounds like you have chosen method #1, which some recipients might not
like because dynamic IPs are a common source of spam. An advantage to
method #2 is that the smart host is always on the 'Net, trying to forward
your mail in case of delivery problems.
--
Paul Kimoto
This message was originally posted on Usenet in plain text. Any images,
hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my consent,
and may be a violation of international copyright law.
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From: Larry Jansch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I need a good book on Sendmail
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 22:58:04 GMT
O'Reilly & Associates also has a good set of books on Sendmail:
Sendmail
- Bryan Costales w/Eric Allman
US$44.95/CN$65.95
1,000 pages, give or take a few... ;-)
Sendmail Desktop Reference
- (same authors)
US$6.95/CN$9.95
70 pages
Highly recommended.
-Larry
"Prasanth A. Kumar" wrote:
> "Lamar Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Anyone know of a good book for Sendmail? I am running RedHat Linux 6.2. I
> > just went out and bought "Sendmail 2nd Ed." by O'Reilly press and I know
> > that it is a good book, but is it good for a Linux 6.2 system? After all,
> > the book was published back in Jan. 1997! Is it still DA BOOK to have?
> > Thanks for your help.
> >
> > Lamar
>
> I also would suggest the Sendmail documentation which comes as part of
> the installation. I think Red Hat keeps it in a seperate sendmail-docs
> RPM if I am not mistaken. It is not a comprehensive book but helps you
> with the basic settings.
>
> --
> Prasanth Kumar
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Larry Jansch
It's official: Bush won, Gore lost. Get over it.
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From: "Lamar Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Is Sendmail working?
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 23:01:43 GMT
I am new to Linux and had a question about sendmail. I am running RH Linux
6.2 and did a custom complete install. When my system boots up I see the
"Sendmail" service start up as [OK]. I have a domain name (mydomain.com)
and an MX record in a DNS server. I can receive mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
can send e-mail out to anyone I want. Does this mean that "Sendmail" is
working?
If so, how would I pull my mail down via POP3 from another system over the
Internet? Thanks for your help.
Lamar
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: e-mail problem - is it my setup ?
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 23:54:33 +0100
Barry Samuels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've had some e-mails rejected by AOL recently with a message something
> like 'we are no longer accepting e-mails from dynamic IPs. You should ask
> your ISP to re-route your mail through their SMTP server'.
> I always thought that all my e-mails went to my ISP's mail server and was
> sent on from there. Is my setup wrong or have I missed something?
We can't tell from here! If you have a smarthost set in your
sendmail.cf, then indeed all mail goes via your ISPs mail hub.
Then it's up to them to set the mail headers appropriately. It might
be that they are leaving some vestige of your machines address in there
that AOL has started picking up on recently. Send yourself a mail and
look at the headers, then compare the ones AOL returned to you.
Peter
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From: Alex Fitterling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CORRECTION
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 00:17:19 +0100
ehm.. of course I ment SMTP-server instead of POP-server as stated in
posting before.
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From: Larry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sound Not Always Working for Users
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 23:31:50 GMT
I have a problem with sound for users. Sound would work for root for any
applications but only some application ( i.e. mtv ) will the sound work for
users. Other application being run by users do not work. Moreover, when a
user logins via kdm, the introduction chimes do not work but it does work
for root.
What is happening? I am running Redhat 6.2 with KDE 2.0. My sound card is
SoundBlaster.
Larry
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From: Alan Westhagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Re: Is Sendmail working?
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 15:26:36 -0800
Lamar Thomas wrote:
>
> I am new to Linux and had a question about sendmail. I am running RH Linux
> 6.2 and did a custom complete install. When my system boots up I see the
> "Sendmail" service start up as [OK]. I have a domain name (mydomain.com)
> and an MX record in a DNS server. I can receive mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
> can send e-mail out to anyone I want. Does this mean that "Sendmail" is
> working?
>
> If so, how would I pull my mail down via POP3 from another system over the
> Internet? Thanks for your help.
>
> Lamar
--
It sounds like sendmail is working. Does mail end up in the
/var/spool/mail directories of your individual users?
fetchmail is a good program for fetching mail from remote
pop3 servers.
-- alan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DTi4565459)
Date: 02 Dec 2000 23:39:57 GMT
Subject: STOP getty..............howto??
I still can't get rid of "respawning" error, and I think it is because getty
starts during boot, and then it ties up modem so I can't even use minicom.
I'm trying to migrate from W$h*t. Is there something like an autoexec.bat in
Linux so I can edit and rem out the instruction to start getty????
Thanks in advance,
dave
http://www.columbia.edu/~mdt1/
(1 = one, not little L; and don't forget the trailing / )
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From: "busware" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help with smb printing.
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 18:44:00 -0500
hello,
this one might be obvious. but i still need your collective input.
i setup a smb or remote printer using printtool. the setup looks correct due
to the fact
that i have successfully done this part before. this difference this time is
i have an nec superscript 870 laser printer. when i send a test print from
printtool it prints a page once and never again unless i delete the printer
entry and redo the setup.
of course the nec870 is not one of the choises of printers offered by
printtool.
when it prints the original test page the output says something like add
CR-LF/CR.
this occurs when i selected "text printer" as the driver.
if i select "postscript printer" then the output is also weird.
i have rh6.2 linux as the server and the printer is connected to a win98
client.
thank you,
kenny.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anita Lewis)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Re: Is Sendmail working?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 23:56:58 GMT
On Sat, 02 Dec 2000 23:01:43 GMT, Lamar Thomas wrote:
>I am new to Linux and had a question about sendmail. I am running RH Linux
>6.2 and did a custom complete install. When my system boots up I see the
>"Sendmail" service start up as [OK]. I have a domain name (mydomain.com)
>and an MX record in a DNS server. I can receive mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
>can send e-mail out to anyone I want. Does this mean that "Sendmail" is
>working?
>
>If so, how would I pull my mail down via POP3 from another system over the
>Internet? Thanks for your help.
>
>Lamar
>
>
I think you will want to set up fetchmail for that. In 'man fetchmail'
search on the word example. There are some configuration examples toward
the bottom that are very clear.
I used a program called 'install-sendmail' that I found at www.freshmeat.net
as I recall. That program will setup sendmail and fetchmail. It is clear
in its instructions. But since you have sendmail working, fetchmail should
do it.
After you configure fetchmail, the first time you run it, do 'fetchmail -k'
The -k is for keep and will keep a copy on the server, just in case
something goes wrong and it does not end up in your mail box.
Anita
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: STOP getty..............howto??
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 00:58:17 +0100
DTi4565459 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I still can't get rid of "respawning" error, and I think it is because getty
> starts during boot, and then it ties up modem so I can't even use minicom.
It would be extremely unusual for a distro to have a default setup that
included a getty watching the serial ports. (it would be mgetty = modem
getty if so). And mgetty wouldn't stop minicom running because mgetty
gives way to other lock files .. but you0d have had to set minicom up
to produce the right lockfile.
> I'm trying to migrate from W$h*t. Is there something like an autoexec.bat in
Yes. Man init. init is the first program run, and it is responsible for
starting daemons. Those include the "getty"s taht you log in to.
Look at /etc/inittab (and man 5 inittab). But you won't find a getty on
a ttyS device, I am pretty sure.
> Linux so I can edit and rem out the instruction to start getty????
Peter
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From: Cliff Sarginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Oh YUCK!!!
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 01:07:09 +0100
C. L. Lewis posited:
> Oops! ;-)
>
> Spoke too soon. Just upgraded it to a 2.4.0-test10 and got some minor
> glitches. My fault and not the distro's though.
>
> Yeah, it was almost sickening. I date back to RH 5 and have been playing
> with the various distros Deb, COL, FreeBSD etc, for a couple of years
> and always expected to have to tinker a day or two on my old opl3sa2
> sound card if nothing else.
>
> May not be the same on a different machine and I may have just hit a
> lucky one, but if it was all like this one was, I think it could damn
> near be called grandma compatable. ;-)
>
Be careful, you will end up on The Linux satisfied customer list .. lol :)
Philosophically speaking the whole of Linux/GNU .. (freebsd etc too) is
probably driven by disatisfaction. Nothing is ever quite right, but at
least with this stuff you know one day it may be, unlike some OSes we love
to bitch about..
--
no NAUGHTYSPAM if you email me :)
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From: Cliff Sarginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ppp script
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 01:09:05 +0100
Daniel Ng posited:
> Hello,
> I have a ppp script which has been working for me in RedHat 6.1.
> Recently, I have upgraded
> to RedHat 6.2, it does not work no more. When the connection is made,
> it is then terminated right after.
> Any suggestions?
>
> here is my scripts.
>
> #!/bin/bash
> # pppMyISP
> /usr/sbin/pppd /dev/ttyS3 -detach connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f
> /etc/ppp/myisp" &
>
> and my myisp file is
>
> TIMEOUT 60
> ABORT ERROR
> ABORT BUSY
> ABORT "NO CARRIER"
> ABORT "NO DIALTONE"
> "" "AT&FH0"
> OK "atdt1234567"
> TIMEOUT 75
> CONNECT
>
> my pap-secrets
> # client server secret IP addresses
> myname ppp0 mypasswd
>
>
>
>
>
>
Which version of pppd is it ?
--
no NAUGHTYSPAM if you email me :)
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From: Cliff Sarginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH62 vs RH70 config files diff
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 01:12:37 +0100
Gill posited:
>
> Hi,
>
> Im moving from a dying (3 month old) HD (Seagate ata II 20.4G, mind you)
> to a new (non Seagate) one.
> Im taking the opportunity to upgrade from RH6.2 to RH7.0.
>
> Can I simply take from my dying disk the tuned configuration files for my
> hardware (which hasnt changed)?
>
> for the video card / screen?
> the modem?
> the printer?
> sound card?
> more?
>
> If so I'd appreciate if you could tell me which files to take
> (unless i can do some recursive diff between the tow HDs)
>
> If this is stated all too clearly in any RH publication - just point me
> there.
>
> Thanks!
> -Gill
>
> PS I've had a friend tune the RH62...
>
>
Well in principle you must be able to do that .. with RH though I dont know
if you will run into oddities with linuxconf.
Since linuxconf crashed on me every time I used it, and I gave up running RH
workstations in favour of other distros I cannot help you much more than
that.
Cliff
--
no NAUGHTYSPAM if you email me :)
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From: "vertical profit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: cd player help???????redhat 7.0
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 00:40:51 GMT
Subject: laptop CD player problems
Date: Saturday, December 02, 2000 6:02 PM
I mount my cdrom from /mnt
but it gives me the error message that the cd, which is regular wav format
(or whatever the industry uses), is the WRONG MEDIA TYPE
also:
I get beeps from box when I do things in which you are supposed to be
getting beeps........
however, again, when I enter GNOME and use the cd player it still plays no
music.......
help would be appreciated
--
"Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind
on the present moment."
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Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 03:10:07 +0200
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: looking for video capture card for linux
hi
i'm looking for a good video card with an onboard tv tuner and that can
do decent video capture. (video capture must be preferably done at
352x288 or higher resolution captured at at least 24fps). A big plus
would be if the card could do real time mpeg compression (i dont even
know if there are cards that can do this).
i currently have an ATI card, but there's almost no support for the tv
tuner in linux.
any recommendations would be appreciated. please feel free to specify as
much detail about the card as u'd like or just leave a URL i can visit
to get more info :)
thanks
ali
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From: "HOMZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: boot disk? Re: How should I install Linux and Win2K (dual boot)
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 00:48:15 GMT
I'm having problems getting back into my LINUX partition. I do have a boot
disk that came with my package, but it's only purpose is to send you to the
CD-rom drive incase it is not bootable. I tried to use it without a CD and
it just freezes indefinately, and with the CD, it only wants to "install".
Is there another, better "boot disk" I can use when I want to boot into my
LINUX partition? Is there a way I can make one in Windows when I can't
access LINUX at all? Or maybe I can download somewhere?
I'm currently downloading explore2fs from
http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm to see if it helps me
at all.
Thank you,
Kim
"Leo Cambilargiu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> <snip>
>
> A very new and intersting approach. Thanks. I only have a *few
> comments/questions. (I am not familiar with Win2k)
>
> > Why not install lilo into the MBR ?
> > It has to do with having independant OS'es running.
> > Your boot block boots any active partition that is marked as such.
>
> Can linux fdisk mark a partition active? Last I checked it did but...
>
> > Eg :
> > At home I have this config:
> >
> > hda1 : /boot with lilo in first sector Active
> > hda2 : win2000 (NT5) on ntfs 5.0 Bootable
> > hda3 : Win98 fat32 Bootable
> > hda4 : Extended
> >
> > lilo asks me:
> > LILO:
> > linux nt5 win98
> >
> > Now for some reason,let's say I dd'ed 2 megs of 0's onto the hda1
partition
> > and destroyed lilo and the kernel file accidentally . I can't boot the
> > computer right ?
> > Wrong.
>
> You can get the linux boot disk (rescue disk set) you made earlier on and
> use it to bring up the linux system. You can then rewrite the boot sector
> using lilo and a modified version of /etc/lilo.conf.
>
> It does take a little hacking and a little time... depending on the
damage
> done.
>
> One last note. I am not sure if WIN2k requires special boot sector
> privilages which Win9x does not have.
>
> > get the partition magic disk, set win2000 as the active one, and
> > reboot.Win2000 comes up . I can boot 98 or win2000 from the NT loader,
> > download tom's root/boot disk and repair the damage.
> >
> > Or say win2000 dies. I can still use lilo to boot win98.
> > Or say I remove Redhat from the hdd ( which if you put lilo into mbr
would
> > require "fdisk /mbr" to remove ). I can still use the system.
>
> you can use lilo to write a boot sector which load only nt5 or win98
before
> you kill Redhat thus allowing a multiple OS's system if you do not like
> Win2k's boot loader.
>
> alternatively
>
> lilo -U (ininstall lilo and the original boot sector is replaced)
>
> > hth.
> >
> > Brando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > I have a 6 GB HD (Laptop) and I want to dual boot Linux and Win2K. I
have
> > a fresh disk to
> > > install on so I don't have to save any data.
> > >
> > > What's the best way to go about doing this? Which OS should I install
> > first and how should
>
> My recomendation:
>
> Bear in mind the limited knowledge I have about Win2k. Perhaps joseph can
> correct any mistake I may make in it's regards if it is significantly
> different from Win9x.
>
> 1. Make sure you are using Large Disk Mode/Access (bios setting I can't
> remember) so you HD does not pass the 1024 number lilo requires.
> 2. Using windows fdisk. Allocate the first partition for Win2k
> 3. Install Win2k
> 4. Install Redhat
> 4.1 During partitioning of HD set up at least 2 partitions: linux root
type
> (83), 2xRAM linux swap (type 82). Optionally you can set up extra
> partitions for mail directory, source code, /usr/local, /root, /home etc.
> I use /root, /usr, and /home. The more partitions you have, the safer
> those parts of data are from corrupting if something happens. However you
> pay the price with space because each partition requires a residual amount
> available.
> 4.2 When configuring lilo
>
> At this point you can take a "risk" and write the MBR, or you can play it
> "safer" and follow josephs ideas (which are good and seem to be easier).
>
> If you choose to take a risk and write the MBR you should be
> prepared/willing to hack the system using Linux rescue if something
> destroys the MBR. (virus perhaps) The rescue environment is rather
> unfriendly.
>
> Otherwise you need to reinstall linux (a major bummer) just to write a new
> MBR.
>
> Anyways, Thanks for listening. I hope some of this was helpful. I still
> think I am kind of a newbie but this is a topic I (think I) know about.
>
> REGARDS
> > > I set up the partitions. I want about 2.5 GB for Windoze and 3.5 for
> > Linux. I do have
> > > Partition Magic.
> > >
> > > Thanx
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DTi4565459)
Date: 03 Dec 2000 00:52:45 GMT
Subject: Re: STOP getty..............howto??
Thanks, Peter
I looked at inittab, and there is a line:
S:12345:respawn:/sbin/getty ttyS1
THe distro is Debian, which I downloaded and have tried to install on laptop
from floppies.
Newbie needs help!
TIA,
david
PS: How do you edit the ini file? (? vi ?) Where is it?
>> I still can't get rid of "respawning" error, and I think it is because
>getty
>> starts during boot, and then it ties up modem so I can't even use minicom.
>
>It would be extremely unusual for a distro to have a default setup that
>included a getty watching the serial ports. (it would be mgetty = modem
>getty if so). And mgetty wouldn't stop minicom running because mgetty
>gives way to other lock files .. but you0d have had to set minicom up
>to produce the right lockfile.
>
>> I'm trying to migrate from W$h*t. Is there something like an autoexec.bat
>in
>
>Yes. Man init. init is the first program run, and it is responsible for
>starting daemons. Those include the "getty"s taht you log in to.
>Look at /etc/inittab (and man 5 inittab). But you won't find a getty on
>a ttyS device, I am pretty sure.
>
>> Linux so I can edit and rem out the instruction to start getty????
>
>Peter
>
>
>
>
>
>
dave
http://www.columbia.edu/~mdt1/
(1 = one, not little L; and don't forget the trailing / )
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