Linux-Setup Digest #177, Volume #20 Thu, 7 Dec 00 04:13:10 EST
Contents:
RH 7 FTP install on Compaq Prolinea (weirdness) (dd)
Attention NYC Shoppers & Visitors - Beware of Rip-off SY Stores!!! ...... oUXbWP4kS
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Loading kernel modules for scsi tape with RH 7.0 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Newbie: What should I set my hostname to? (Rupert Heesom)
Re: why can't one boot from /dev/hdb? ("Dan Jacobson")
LANGUAGE=en icewm, how at startup ("Dan Jacobson")
Re: XFree86 Confusion (cfish)
Re: environment variables problem 2nd post (Eric)
Re: environment variables problem 2nd post (Cristian)
Re: another newbie, trouble getting started ("Peter T. Breuer")
How to add a partition to an already partitioned HD? (Jc)
Can't install LILO because boot.b missing (nospam)
Re: Kernel won't mount raid0 (solved) ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Another Sendmail Question ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Death by Redhat 6.2 Installation (Jc)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (dd)
Subject: RH 7 FTP install on Compaq Prolinea (weirdness)
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 03:13:16 GMT
Hello, all.
Has anyone got an idea as to why the RH 7 install would insist that I've only
got 14 megs of RAM when the machine actually has 80? I'm trying to install on
an old Compaq Prolinea server with a 486/66 and an EISA bus with an Adaptec
2742 SCSI card and a 3Com 3c579 Etherlink III card. The problem rears its
ugly head when I choose to do either an FTP or an HTTP install - a box pops up
saying FTP/HTTP installs require a minimum of 20 megs RAM. Doing an Alt+F3 to
see the log shows messages that 14xxx KBytes of memory are available.
Weird thing is, I try the RH 6.2 FTP install and it doesn't even hiccup.
Anyone got any ideas?
Thanks,
davidd
Windows is Dead!
Long Live Tux!!!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Attention NYC Shoppers & Visitors - Beware of Rip-off SY Stores!!! ......
oUXbWP4kS
Date: 6 Dec 2000 23:37:09 GMT
SY stores have been around for about 50 years or so and have only one
objective - TO RIP YOU OFF!
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They are a constant source of frustration for the NYC Department of
Consumer Affairs, which has been trying to close them down for as long as
I can remember. SY's are the most ruthless merchants in New York. I should
know, I once worked as a stock clerk for one of them.
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The term "SY" refers to the ethnicity of the shopkeepers. They come from a
small and isolated region of Syria, where for centuries a cult of swindlers
has flourished. Approximately 60 years ago, they started to emigrate to the
U.S. and setup shop along Broadway at Times Square and later moved to some of
the less desirable locations along 5th Avenue.
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Not surprisingly, SY stores are usually found in areas frequented by tourists.
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You can always spot an SY store by the odd assortment of merchandise.
Radios, cameras and other assorted electronics on one side of the shop and
on the other; jade, ivory carvings, tablecloths, porcelain figurines,
oriental carpets, etc.
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SY stores are singular in their objective... To extract as much money from
the customer as possible, *buy virtually any means at all*. There is no set
price in an SY store. The salesman keeps 1/3 to 1/2 of the profit on everything
he sells (which is a strong incentive to overcharge) and overcharge he will!
It is not unusual for these merchants to charge upwards of 500 - 1000% profit
on an item, while leading you to believe that you're actually getting a bargain
(which is the cornerstone of their craft).
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These merchants are masters of deception and one should not try to match wits
with them. This is their lifelong profession... they've been doing it for
generations and most Americans are simply out of their league when it come to
trickery, deceit and high-pressure sales tactics.
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A couple of things that might clue you in to the fact that you may stumbled into
an SY store:
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If the staff speaks to one another in code words or in a language that you
don't recognize... if the words "Lot" or "C-Line" are used frequently in
reference to a specific item... if the price tag is marked with a price that
is demonstrably higher then it's being offered to you for, then chances are
your in an SY store.
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JUST LEAVE! It will be the best decision you made this holiday season and
both you and your checkbook (as well as your pride) will be all the better
for it.
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Merry Christmas!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Loading kernel modules for scsi tape with RH 7.0
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 23:46:13 -0500
Reply-To: tgm
On Wed, 6 Dec 2000 20:56:06 +0100, "Peter T. Breuer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<snip>
>> the tape drive. Will /dev/st0 automatically cause hardware
>> compression on an HP Surestore 6000 (DDS2) tape drive to be used, or
>> do I have to use some other device in /dev?
>
>It's up to the HP what it chooses to do. Hardware compression is just
>that.
>
In other unix variants you can select to enable/disable hardware
compression with the device file selected or at the application level.
It can also be selected at the application level on all the Windows
flavors. I was wondering if and how it could be accomplished in
Linux.
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From: Rupert Heesom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie: What should I set my hostname to?
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 23:07:25 -0500
Well, I have my Linux PC connected to the internet via DSL modem which is
probably similar to a cable modem. My ISP gave me my host name which is
along the lines of their domain name.
Do you have a static IP given by your ISP for your service? Along with
my static IP info, I got the hostname info.
regs
rupert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm running Redhat 6.2 on my computer at home. The computer is
> connected via ethernet to a linksys router which is connected to the
> internet via cable modem. The router does notwork address translation,
> though I'm not exactly sure what that really means.
>
> I don't know what to set the hostname to (currently valinux-system).
> Can I pick anything? How do I change it? I need to know in order
> to get sendmail working correctly.
>
> Thanks very much,
> Paul
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: "Dan Jacobson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,gnu.utils.help
Subject: Re: why can't one boot from /dev/hdb?
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 11:59:50 +0800
OK, looks good, but how do I say this in grub?
"Svend Olaf Mikkelsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> "Dan Jacobson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >boot=/dev/fd0
>
> boot=/dev/hdb
> >map=/boot/map
> >install=/boot/boot.b
> >vga=normal
> >default=linux
> >keytable=/boot/us.klt
> >prompt
> >timeout=50
> disk=/dev/hda
> bios=0x81
> disk=/dev/hdb
> bios=0x80
> >message=/boot/message
> >menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
> >image=/boot/vmlinuz
> > label=linux
> > root=/dev/hdb1
> > initrd=/boot/initrd.img
> > append=" hdc=ide-scsi"
> > read-only
> >other=/dev/hda1
> > label=windows
> > table=/dev/hda
> > map-drive=0x80
> > to=0x81
> > map-drive=0x81
> > to=0x80
I found the grub way to say 'map' [which I indeed had to remove to
boot windows from the floppy, it was already mapped apparently],
but I can't find the grub way to say disk=/dev/hda, bios=0x81...
I'm fairly sure then all I need to do is
# grub
root (hd1,1)..... #or wherever one's /boot is
setup (hd1) #write only the MBR of hdb
how does this differ from doing
# lilo
with the above /etc/lilo.conf?
Would lilo here also only write the MBR of hdb?
Just curious, grub is said to be more flexible than lilo.
Do we see any glimpses of these additional flexibilities in the above examples?
[my problem is/was: I want to set the bios to boot from hdb where linux lives,
hda is windows. I currently can boot from the floppy [not a rescue floppy, but
just a grub in the MBR floppy]
--
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Tel:+886-4-5854780; starting in year 2001: +886-4-25854780
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From: "Dan Jacobson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: LANGUAGE=en icewm, how at startup
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 12:28:20 +0800
How do I slide a
LANGUAGE=en
or whatever in front of whatever invokes icewm for me at bootup?
I can't even read any of its menus as of course the big5 Chinese
fonts are screwed on Mandrake 7.2.
I want to do
LANGUAGE=en icewm
intead of
icewm
at bootup. thanks.
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Tel:+886-4-5854780; starting in year 2001: +886-4-25854780
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From: cfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: XFree86 Confusion
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 06:30:57 GMT
if it doesn't start it must have said something, right? what does it
say?
did you forget xhost?
On Wed, 06 Dec 2000 21:39:37 GMT, "Joseph Dobransky"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Ok, I read the manuals, surfed the web etc, and either I'm brain dead, which
>is possible, or I have no idea what they are babbling about. I can start an
>x proggie from a term window in lets say gnome with lets say netcfg &.
>However when I try that from a command line, I get no display, tcl, python
>errors. Most frustrating. I use to be able to do that from a command line, x
>would start, and then the proggie would start. Now nadda. Ideas, ridicule,
>and suggestions welcome!
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: environment variables problem 2nd post
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 08:43:07 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I then went back and edited .profile to exactly the same as the qt
> example. Got the same complaint.
>
> Can somebody please help me out here?
Yes place it in the correct file.
If you use ksh shell, use $HOME/.profile
If you use bash shell, use $HOME/.bash_profile
I suppose you use bash, so edit the profile file bash uses.
(source the file after you made the changes, or logout, and login again)
Eric
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From: Cristian <c{ristian}h{umberto}[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: environment variables problem 2nd post
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 08:02:59 GMT
Robert Stia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello all,
> I am evidently missing something here. I really hope that
> somebody can set me straight. I also hope that I am in the
> right newsgroup for this question.
...
Do the following:
1. make sure you have the following lines in /etc/profile :
QTDIR=/usr/local/qt
PATH=/usr/local/qt/bin:$PATH
MANPATH=/usr/local/qt/man:$MANPATH
export QTDIR PATH MANPATH
2. add the following line to /etc/ld.so.conf, and then do ldconfig as root:
/usr/local/qt/lib
3. this should define the variables for all users and tell the linker to
look for libraries in the qt directory.
C.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: another newbie, trouble getting started
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 23:00:25 +0100
Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> And beggars also say that it's a simple request from a simple person
>> who is unable, through no fault of their own, to do work like everyone else.
> bite me. I looked all fucking day. This is why people hate geeks.
Then look harder, or more successfully. Beggars also say that they
can't find work. :o)
You'd have at least to work hard enough to _convince_ me. Saying "I
looked all day" convinces me not one millimetre. Stating the results
of your days hard research in a potted summary might get you there,
as well as being useful to yourself and the world.
Peter
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From: Jc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,Comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: How to add a partition to an already partitioned HD?
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 17:24:42 +0900
I have RH 6,2 up an running and would like to add a partition to my HD.
Right now it has only three, /, /boot and swap. The root partitioned was
created using Disk Druid and made to use up all available space ....
Since the root partition is mostly empty can I add a partition to my HD
and make it use space on the end of the root partition that is not in
use?
Jc
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Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 09:38:02 +0100
From: nospam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Can't install LILO because boot.b missing
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In SuSE linux 7.0, I try to install LILO, but it claims that the file
/boot/boot.b is missing. I want to install LILO in the boot record of
the Linux partition, because I have a parallel installation of Windows
NT and want to use the NT bootmenu (as is described in the SuSE
handbook). However, I suspect that my problem is not related to this.
I tried a 'find', but there apparently is no 'boot.b' file in the Linux
file system (there is /boot directory, but no boot.b file in it).
I installed Linux with YaST, and everything else worked fine.
Pascal
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In SuSE linux 7.0, I try to install LILO, but it claims that the file<font
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/boot/boot.b is missing</font>. I want to install LILO in the boot record
of the Linux partition, because I have a parallel installation of Windows
NT and want to use the NT bootmenu (as is described in the SuSE handbook).
However, I suspect that my problem is not related to this.
<p>I tried a 'find', but there apparently is no 'boot.b' file in the Linux
file system (there is /boot directory, but no boot.b file in it).
<p>I installed Linux with YaST, and everything else worked fine.
<p>Pascal
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Kernel won't mount raid0 (solved)
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 09:23:54 +0100
In comp.os.linux.misc Stephan A Suerken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> No speed increase on / as it is cached. It only contains libraries
>> (cached) and utilities needed at boot (not needed after boot).
> That's basically not true. On most linux based systems, there are a
> lot of binaries in the traditional root fs (i.e. in /bin and /sbin)
> that are heavily used, not only on bootup. If they are chached or not
I can't think of any offhand ... oh yes, shells. The rest is admin
stuff:
lm008:/bin% ls
arch dd fdflush login netstat run-parts tcsh
bash df fgrep ls nisdomainname sash tempfile
cat dir fuser lshells pidof sed touch
chgrp dmesg grep mkdir ping setserial true
chmod dnsdomainname gunzip mknod ping6 sh umount
chown domainname gzip mktemp ps sleep uname
cp echo hostname more pwd stty uncompress
cpio ed kill mount rbash su vdir
csh egrep ln mt rm sync ypdomainname
date false loadkeys mv rmdir tar zcat
cat, cp, mv, grep, touch, sleep will also be used continuously by
systems scripts.
> is just a question of what you "do" with your machine.
> No, I stripe "/". This of course includes /usr (and /home and ....).
Well, it shouldn't (;-).
>> /usr has advantages. But you lose heavily in robustness by striping
> Well sort of. However, my raid arrays until now NEVER failed on
> me. Secondly, I have a recovery plan that does not at all depend on a
> traditional small functioning root fs.
>> /! And you only gain in speed if you stripe over two controllers.
> According to the raid documents, you are likely to gain speed as soon
> as you have two partitions on two different hds. Different controllers
You may be likely to, but you won't. IDE controllers have a queue
length of 1 (pauses for thought .. that's better than 0!). But they can't
send commands to two different disks simultaneously.
> are the of course real thing, though ;).
That's what you need. Even then you will get at most a 30% speedup
(I've measured).
> Resizing, btw, afaik IS (or will be) possible with the new style
> raidtools, and it should be made easy using "lvm". I have not tried
> that, though.
I have. It was incomprehensible.
> So now, all questions striped!
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.mail.sendmail,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Another Sendmail Question
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 09:31:46 +0100
In comp.os.linux.misc Lamar Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> In comp.os.linux.misc Lamar Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > re-formatted two more times with the same results. Sendmail loads fine with
>> > no errors [OK]. It just will not receive e-mail. Any ideas? Thanks for any
>>
>> Configure it. It needs at least to know your host name and domainname
>> as well as to BE RUNNING. If you do not understand what those two words
>> mean, I strongly suggest you ask yourself before you ask me!
>>
> I know what a host name and domain name are, but WHERE do I configure them
> in RH Linux 6.2 and what is the syntax? I used the "Linuxconf" utility to
That's between you and RH 6.2. I presume it comes with a setup tool!
If you want to do it by hand, edit /etc/HOSTNAME and /etc/hosts. Then
run hostname `cat /etc/HOSTNAME`. And if RH don't use that file, use
whatever one they do use ... something under /etc/sysconfig/ probably.
> set the host name and domain name for the system. Is there some place that
That's all you have to do. Mind you, RH gets this wrong by default as
far as I have seen, adding them as aliases for localhost and leaving
them that way when you later add a NIC.
> I need to set it for sendmail?
In sendmail's configuration file. But if the system hostname and
domainname is setup correctly, it won't be necessary. So what does
"hostname -f" tell you?
Is sendmail RUNNING? Type "pstree" and look.
Peter
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From: Jc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Death by Redhat 6.2 Installation
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 17:52:57 +0900
My guess is that LILO was not written properly during your previous
installation.
One thing you can try is to boot from a floppy (you did make one right?). If
you made a boot floppy during your installation it will automatically know
where your root partition is and boot from your hard disk. If that works,
log in as root and run lilo. This will reqrite lilo to the boot sector and
you should have no problems.
If you didn't make a boot disk at installation but have one from before, try
the following option at the LILO boot prompt:
linux root=/dev/hdXY
where X is probably "a" (assuming you installed on just one IDE HD) and Y is
probably 5 is you only made the basic three partitions (/boot, / and swap).
If your installation was different try and figure out what partition you
installed / on.
But to be honest, since you said you ran fsck and got lots of errors,
depending on what they where, it might be that you HD is toast ...
Hope it helps,
Jc
Eric wrote:
> cfish wrote:
> >
> > are you sure you had enough room for that install. anyway it's dead it
> > doesn't matter anymore. might as well reinstall it.
> >
> > if you read LILO documentation, it will explain to you what lilo knows
> > and what problem it encounters if you see "LI" or if you see "LIL" or
> > if you see "LILO" now i can't remember them off the bat so you have to
> > look it up.
> >
>
> This wont help much. I can tell out front why LI appears.
> The linux loader cannot find the kernel anymore.
> Not so strange, considering he reinstalled :-)
> The new lilo wasn't written yet, so try the install again.
>
> Make sure that the hardware is still OK,
> check the partition table as it is right now, and make sure that the
> windows partitions still exist.
>
> Eric
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