Linux-Setup Digest #209, Volume #20 Tue, 12 Dec 00 11:13:11 EST
Contents:
Re: Netscape 6 for linux (John Peach)
Re: SpeedStar Diamond A50/A70 video card ("Gene Heskett")
Redhat represented by newbies? (cappie)
Help (Andrew Semenov)
Opti 82C924: cannot install (KNode Gnewbie)
Re: How to load linux if BIOS only boots HD? ("Aaron")
Re: Sendmail question (cappie)
Re: Linux and win2k (cappie)
Re: ports (cappie)
Re: Hello Out There! (cappie)
Re: SpeedStar Diamond A50/A70 video card (cappie)
Re: what's everyone favorite FONT? (cappie)
Re: Linux and win2k (Eric)
Re: Hello Out There! (Eric)
Re: Redhat represented by newbies? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: what's everyone favorite FONT? (Eric)
Re: Redhat represented by newbies? (Eric)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Peach)
Subject: Re: Netscape 6 for linux
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 14:31:12 GMT
...and having got it working, whether you will want to keep it is
another question entirely. It's even more bloated and slow than version
4.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
James Richard Tyrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
|>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|>
|>> Hi to all,
|>>
|>> Does anybody has a clue, why after installation of netscape 6 with SuSe
|>> 7.0 I get the following error-message when I try to run it:
|>>
|>> uwe@uweslinuxpc:/opt/netscape > ./netscape
|>> ./run-mozilla.sh ./mozilla-bin
|>> MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=.
|>> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=./Cool:.:/opt/kde/lib:/opt/kde2/lib
|>> LIBPATH=.:./Cool
|>> SHLIB_PATH=.:./Cool
|>> XPCS_HOME=./Cool
|>> MOZ_PROGRAM=./mozilla-bin
|>> MOZ_TOOLKIT=
|>> moz_debug=0
|>
|>Well the stuff above is not an error message.
|>
|>> moz_debugger=
|>> ./run-mozilla.sh: line 29: 2557 Speicherzugriffsfehler $prog ${1+"$@"}
|>
|>The script failed. I don't know why.
|>
|>I would try executing from your home directory with the full path. DH:
|>
|>/opt/netscape/netscape
|>
|>rather than changing to the directory. And, see if that helps.
|>
|>JRT
|>
|>
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Date: 12 Dec 2000 9:18:23 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SpeedStar Diamond A50/A70 video card
Unrot13 this;
Reply to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Wouter Duyck;
WD> Does anybody know how to install a SpeedStar Diamond A50/A70
WD> video card in linux... Xconfigurator doesn't do the job...
WD> Tanx.
Depends somewhat on your version of X. 3.3.3.2 needed a driver you
could get from SuSe, called xsis. Later, 3.3.6 seems to have
incorporated it into the SVGA driver.
This card uses the SiS-6326 chip, and XConfigurator (and even late X's)
treat it as a bit drain bamaged, like my 8 meg card is treated as if its
a 4 megger and nobody knows why.
The first thing you'll need to fix is the removal of the comment in
front of the memory specification line in your XF86Config file it
generates, and then _never touch that file with xconfigurator again_.
Use a normal editor.
Then you'll need to know the h-sync range your monitor can go up to,
because you'll need to change that line from a single frequency spec to
something that says 31-64 (or whatever that top range for your monitor
is. High end monitors can cheerfully go above 100khz, but most should
be held to 70 or below.
Ditto the v-sync range. By giving X a range of values, it can then pick
the highest scan range automaticly. If you don't do that, then the
usual message as X dies on startup is 'no suitable screens found'.
I have set it purposely so that the h-sync exceeds the monitors
abilities on the high end, as evidenced by the monitors beginning to
shrink, then reduced it by a couple of kilohertz at a time until an
unknown monitor was happy. X then picks the highest settings and keeps
them, and the log shows that it deletes those which exceed the monitors
range. Do NOT adjust the low end, the first figure left of the dash, as
that may be sudden death for the monitor, usually letting out some of
the smoke that makes all this magic work.
The existing 3.3.6 drivers can now use most of the acceleration options,
although the color limits are 24 bit tops. One of the options results
in destruction of the mouse pointer when anything on the screen scrolls,
but I've forgotten which one stopped that now. Going back to a 16 bit
mode seems to stop that.
I don't know how its supported under 4.0.1, sorry.
There were several posts offering suitable config files, or URL's where
they can be borrowed from, so use deja's search engine. Or with a valid
email address, I could supply the one thats currently running an NEC 5FG
monitor here.
Cheers, Gene
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From: cappie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Redhat represented by newbies?
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:36:56 +0100
I don't want to start a flamewar or anything, but why is it that almost
all of the stupid questions come from Redhat users? Are they _THAT_
technologicly impared by linuxconf and other tools?
For people who want to install linux as a server: USE DEBIAN OR
SLACKWARE.. (depends on if you want to make a secure internet gateway
(slackware) or a superb and secure webserver (debian))
Redhat isn't showing Linux's ugly head to its users.. Slackware does
(debian too, but debian is beginning to get easier to install and
maintain.. which is good ofcourse, but people who start with these kinds
of automated server don't really know how to fix something when their
autoconfigure scripts shit themselves..)
my five cents..
- cappie
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From: Andrew Semenov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.ibm-pc.hardware,comp.os.linux.hardawe,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.ibm-pc.hardware,comp.sys.pc.hardware
Subject: Help
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 16:42:04 +0200
Help.Who can give a pc to student of Ukraine contact me
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: KNode Gnewbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Opti 82C924: cannot install
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:29:44 +0100
Hi:
Long ago I bought a sound card based on the Opti 82C924
chip which always refused to run under Linux. Every year I try to install
it again in my spare (ha!) time...
This year my RedHat 6.2 sndconfig recognizes the card as an
OPTi Audio 16. Then the sound test fails and the manual config proposes:
Mozart/MAD16 (OPTi 82C928)
...which I tried and failed, then tried:
MAD16 Pro (OPTi 82C929/82C930)
...because it was also OPTi, but it failed too, logically, as the
chip is really an 82C924.
The Hardware Guide suggests using the "WSS" driver (without
specifying where to get such a beast) and isapnp. I tried:
Windows Sound System (AD1848/CS4248/CS4231)
...because somewhere else I found the WSS acronym associated with
it, but not know if it is indeed the famous "WSS" driver.
Anyways, it didn't work from sndconfig, so I started fiddling with
isapnp without knowing a thing Pnp-wise but trying combinations of IRQ,
IOPORT and DMA that were not used elsewhere.
I get various errors from resource conflicts, to resources busy, to
cannot load kernel modules. The number of possible combinations of all
my parameter guesses is astronomical... Is there any sort of diagnostic
feedback I can hope for, short of full success, to inch my way towards
victory and slay my personal Linux Sound bugaboo??
Thanx, even if you can't help.
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From: "Aaron" <bombarumba@hot*SpamMeNot*mail.com>
Subject: Re: How to load linux if BIOS only boots HD?
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:40:48 -0500
i'm not sure what exactly you're trying to do with the dos partition & how
you plan to set mandrake up...
but here's some info anyway.
ripping your hard drive out and installing linux from another machine can
work if the other. CPU/computer has about the same specs as yours does...
coz linux optimizes the install based on your hardware configurations (for
Red Hat 6.2 at least, as far as i know). That means you can't plug the hard
drive into your 550Mhz computer and install linux, and have it work in a
P120Mhz later.
why is it that you can't boot from a floppy? I installed linux once without
floppy, cdrom or network support coz i was nuts and have no life and was
trying to restore a really really old computer. It wasn't elegant, coz i
ended up making a bootable partition and stuffed the entire redhat
installation CD onto that partition. So i just rebooted, and booted into my
setup partition, and ran the setup from there. Well that almost sucked up 1
Gb of hard disk space that i thought i could delete later if i wanted to
anyway.
anyhow, you might already know that when making partitions, you can only
enlarge them if they were large before (you cannot make them larger than
they have ever been before), and you can shrink/downsize partitions, but if
you have data in it, safest would be to defragment, pack all the data into
the top of the partition, and chop off the end.
you can try ranish's partitions manager from www.download.com. That lets you
set partitions, and adjust the boot record/boot manager. It doesn't do linux
partitions or logical/extended partitions as well as fdisk though.
To make a partition bootable, it has to be a primary partition and within
the first 1024 cylinders of the hard disk (i think). So i don't know what
beyond 2gigs is for your hard disk, it should boot as long as its above 1024
cylinders.
if you downsize the NT partition, you would only be able to put the dos
partition (or whatever partition) at the end of your hard disk (if you don't
want to lose valuable stuff on the NT partition).
but if you have the freedom of wiping out your whole hard disk, just fdisk
your way to happiness!
what you could also try (although this isn't a very friendly option for
laptops) is plugging in your friend's hard drive onto your computer (instead
of yours to his), and booting into his, and using it to install on yours.
You can make it master, slave, pet, whatever.
An easy way to adjust partitions would be with that Ranish partition manager
program.
However, it does require you to have a floppy drive (why don't you have
one??!?!!) to boot out of any OS.
I think i see your problem now.
if you don't have a floppy nor a cdrom, best way is to do a hard disk
transplant.
get a floppy drive, or plug your drive into some box that has a floppy at
least.
every bios can be set boot a floppy (as long as i've been alive), if you
can't boot a CD rom.
hope that helps.
-aaron
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"Chris Boyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:914uhr$3fk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> steve mcclue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Have you thought of using a different boot loader, such as Partition
> > Magic's PQ Boot? This would allow you to install Linux to a HD
> > partition, then you would save Lilo to that sector (not the MBR), and
> > boot from that sector using PQmagic.
>
> Nice idea, but would I be able to set it up from within NT, with no
> floppy boots whatsoever? Would that then be able to load DOS even if it
> doesn't start in the first 2 gigs? Or would it be able to downsize the
> NT partition so I can put DOS starting within the first 2 gigs?
>
> Once I've installed Linux I'm home and dry anyway. The problem is I
> can't load linux to install in the first place, because...
>
> > Alternatively, you could use LoadLin, but I'm not sure whether this
> > works with NT.
>
> ...it doesn't. The aim of all these contortions to get DOS to work is
> one loadlin command to start the install, which can then get rid of NT
> and all the rest completely. I won't be sorry to see the back of it...
>
> > Why not look at this:
> > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/mini/Linux+WinNT
> > and see if that helps.
>
> It doesn't really, too much of it hinges on being able to boot from a
> floppy. If that was possible I'd just use a DOS bootdisk with loadlin on
> it. Thanks very much anyway...
>
> --
> Chris Boyle
> Winchester College
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: cappie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sendmail question
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:41:29 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
> Sendmail question
> I am running RedHat Linux 6.2. As my system boots up it loads Sendmail
> just fine and gives an [OK] status. When I log onto the system I can
> send out e-mail to friends and family fine. But when they send e-mail
> back to me they get the following bounce back:
>
> "This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason:
>
> Each of the following recipients was rejected by a remote mail server.
> The reasons given by the server are included to help you determine why
> each recipient was rejected.
>
> Recipient: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reason: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Relaying denied
>
> Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> if you feel this message to be in error."
>
> Can anyone help. What do I need to do to receive e-mail on my server to
>
> my local domain?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
>
>
>
try to find a file called "relay-domains" and add the hostnames or ip's
of the systems which can have access.. (wildcards (.bla.com or 10.0.0.
(something like that.. come on.. you're creative enough)) might work, I
think..)
also check your sendmail.cf and be sure that your local domain is
defined somewhere (thought it was one of the first 10 variables.. I
think it started with 'cw' or something)
this should get rid of that stupid shit..
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From: cappie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and win2k
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:46:10 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Jacob Hooysma wrote:
> >
> > Win2k uses not the NTFS as NT does.....
>
> I'm aware of that.
>
> But why should you care?
> Have you read the NT loader howto?
>
> Eric
>
hap hap hap..
geen ruzie maken he, jongens...
- cap
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From: cappie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ports
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:44:20 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
> Hi all,
>
> I have seen with netstat that I have some ports open:
>
> tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:1036 0.0.0.0:*
> LISTEN 742/gen_util_applet
> tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:1035 0.0.0.0:*
> LISTEN 740/gnomepager_appl
> tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:1034 0.0.0.0:*
> LISTEN 730/gmc
> tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:1033 0.0.0.0:*
> LISTEN 726/panel
> tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:1032 0.0.0.0:*
> LISTEN 725/
> tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:1025 0.0.0.0:*
> LISTEN 709/magicdev
> tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:1024 0.0.0.0:*
> LISTEN 656/gnome-session
>
> I see that these ports are related to gnome, but I don't know how to
> close them.
> If somebody can say me what I must change in my configuration.
> I work on red hat 6.2
> thank in advance.
>
> patrick
>
paranoia, cha cha cha..
who cares about those ports? they are only used on your 'localhost'
network object.. not on the internet or your lan...
you don't have to close EVERYTHING, ya know...
- cappie
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From: cappie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hello Out There!
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:48:00 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
> <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
> <html>
> Jay&Shell wrote:
> <blockquote TYPE=CITE>Is it the fact that no one uses Gnome, or the fact
> that this is a stupid question.
> <br>I run Gnome, and all I want to do is get rid of the Fucking clock.
> It's not an applet so right click does shit except give me a menu for Today,
> This Week, This Month and format. I would like it gone. I want to run an
> applet clock, but have no use for 2 clocks.
> <p>Anyone?
> <br> </blockquote>
> Got it thanks.
> <br>Just a little frustrated, but I'm focused now.
> <br>Yes I am replying to myself. So things are good :)
> <br> </html>
>
>
maybe you should stop using that crappy HTML code of yours in text-based
newsgroups....
I know the answer, but I'm not gonna tell ya.. RTFM! (that way you'll
actually LEARN something.. you lame windows user)
- cappie
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From: cappie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SpeedStar Diamond A50/A70 video card
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:42:39 +0100
In article <9150tq$2ja$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
> Does anybody know how to install a SpeedStar Diamond A50/A70 video card in
> linux... Xconfigurator doesn't do the job...
>
> Tanx.
>
>
>
have you tried xf86config? or are you one of those lame redhat users?
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From: cappie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what's everyone favorite FONT?
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:52:10 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
> What's your favorite fonts and where can I get them? Thanks.
>
>
> my current one is
> -greek-smserif-medium-r-semicondensed--16-10-72-72-m-70-iso8859-7
>
> I'm trying to get a more readable font, for using with emacs mostly.
>
>
I like Verdana, although its not a Linux font..
(I wonder why nobody made a fontserver which could load .ttf's.. why not
have the best of both worlds?)
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and win2k
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 16:06:53 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cappie wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> > Jacob Hooysma wrote:
> > >
> > > Win2k uses not the NTFS as NT does.....
> >
> > I'm aware of that.
> >
> > But why should you care?
> > Have you read the NT loader howto?
> >
> > Eric
> >
> hap hap hap..
>
> geen ruzie maken he, jongens...
>
</DUTCH_MODE>
Nee hoor cappie,
Dat komt wel goed.
Ik begrijp alleen niet wat jacob bedoelt
Wat zou het dat NTFS5 != NTFS4
In deze NG wordt wel eens botter gereageerd
</DUTCH_MODE>
My apologies to the non-dutch speakers,
Just some dutch guys playing around :-)
Eric
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hello Out There!
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 16:11:11 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cappie wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> says...
> > <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
> > <html>
> > Jay&Shell wrote:
> > <blockquote TYPE=CITE>Is it the fact that no one uses Gnome, or the fact
> > that this is a stupid question.
> > <br>I run Gnome, and all I want to do is get rid of the Fucking clock.
> > It's not an applet so right click does shit except give me a menu for Today,
> > This Week, This Month and format. I would like it gone. I want to run an
> > applet clock, but have no use for 2 clocks.
> > <p>Anyone?
> > <br> </blockquote>
> > Got it thanks.
> > <br>Just a little frustrated, but I'm focused now.
> > <br>Yes I am replying to myself. So things are good :)
> > <br> </html>
> >
> >
> maybe you should stop using that crappy HTML code of yours in text-based
> newsgroups....
>
> I know the answer, but I'm not gonna tell ya.. RTFM! (that way you'll
> actually LEARN something.. you lame windows user)
>
Wooh cappie, and you told me not to start a fight?
to the OP.
It's not a fucking clock.
But you can probably turn it off in the main menu?
BTW. gnome != windowmanager, it's a sort of library stuff, that can be
used by your WM.
Lot's of people use gnome apps, even without a gnome type of WM
(And cappie was right, post in plain text only. You will get far more
responses that way.)
Eric
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redhat represented by newbies?
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:24:27 GMT
cappie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't want to start a flamewar or anything, but why is it that almost
> all of the stupid questions come from Redhat users? Are they _THAT_
> technologicly impared by linuxconf and other tools?
Appears that way, though cause and effect aren't really that way round!
It's just advertising and auto-selection that does it. How many lame,
technologically impaired people TRY. let alone SUCCEED in installing
debian? No buy, no install. No install, no luser ..
Personally, I've always found slackware the easiest thing on earth to
install, but SuSE also is good. I've never been able to install redhat
on anything without stepping out of the install sequence over to the
other screen and fixing some amazing, huge, messups.
Peter
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what's everyone favorite FONT?
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 16:22:02 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cappie wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> says...
> > What's your favorite fonts and where can I get them? Thanks.
> >
> >
> > my current one is
> > -greek-smserif-medium-r-semicondensed--16-10-72-72-m-70-iso8859-7
> >
> > I'm trying to get a more readable font, for using with emacs mostly.
> >
> >
> I like Verdana, although its not a Linux font..
>
> (I wonder why nobody made a fontserver which could load .ttf's.. why not
> have the best of both worlds?)
Why do you think you cannot use them?
try XFree86-4.x, it renders it's own fonts, amongst which can be tt
fonts
(I know for sure, I use my windows fonts in X)
(There where tt fontservers for 3.x too, check freshmeat (xfstt ??))
Eric
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redhat represented by newbies?
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 16:42:41 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cappie wrote:
>
> I don't want to start a flamewar or anything, but why is it that almost
> all of the stupid questions come from Redhat users? Are they _THAT_
> technologicly impared by linuxconf and other tools?
>
> For people who want to install linux as a server: USE DEBIAN OR
> SLACKWARE.. (depends on if you want to make a secure internet gateway
> (slackware) or a superb and secure webserver (debian))
>
> Redhat isn't showing Linux's ugly head to its users.. Slackware does
Lot's of redhat users are VERY pleased with this feature :-)
> (debian too, but debian is beginning to get easier to install and
> maintain.. which is good ofcourse, but people who start with these kinds
> of automated server don't really know how to fix something when their
> autoconfigure scripts shit themselves..)
>
You know slackware, you like slackware
I know redhat, I like redhat
I don't use the last version of RH, 'cause it tends to have some
unexpected problems, but I still like it.
I hardly ever use linuxconf though. I don't like that approach
personally. I want to know what to change, where to change it and why.
But then again I'm no beginner anymore (Nor a pro for that matter) I
never used windows very much, so the start with linux wasn't that big a
change for me, but for people who come from a windows environment, and
just want to give linux a try (They don't have a clue on what it means)
the linuxconf like tools are the only way they can get a grip on the
system. Most people are not at all interested in the fine tuning
mechanisms you have with a unix. They just want a running system. I
actually expect that most people kick linux off there disc again, way
before they know how to tame the beasty. Those people are the ones that
usually get into RH, why? because it's there. Look in a shop, when they
have a linux distro, they will very likely have RedHat. When you start
to know the system, you recompile the kernel, and get the source from
kernel.org. Then What does it matter what distro you use? If you assume
default settings to be correct, you get fucked anyway, whatever distro
you use. Tune your system to your likings, and choose the distro you
like.
</dutch mode again>
Als je je hart wilt luchten: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Er is vast ook een ncola groep als je dat beter bevalt
</dutch mode again>
Eric
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