Linux-Setup Digest #224, Volume #20              Thu, 14 Dec 00 18:13:12 EST

Contents:
  my mouse is a white square ("Paul Vannoni")
  USB Modem Install 2.4.12 ("Jason Stuart")
  Re: Dual boot WinME + Linux (Silviu Minut)
  Re: HPT370 and RH7.0 (Alexander Dalloz)
  Re: Mandrake 7.2 Dual Boot (Tom Szczesniak)
  Logitech wheel mouse 'TrackMan Marble+' in Mandrake 7.2 ("Dan Jacobson")
  how many startup services [daemons] should a typical dialup modem user have enabled? 
("Dan Jacobson")
  Re: How to start gpm ? ("ne...")
  Re: staroffice 5.2 /net setup problem (David)
  Re: Install redhat 6.2 whit 2.3.3 kernel ("ne...")
  Re: staroffice 5.2 /net setup problem ("ne...")
  Re: Dual boot WinME + Linux (Gary Sandine)
  Re: 64M instead of 128M with suze7.0 (Gary Sandine)
  Re: Problems with RedHat (Gary Sandine)
  Re: xterm and using backspace (lestat)

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From: "Paul Vannoni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: my mouse is a white square
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:13:43 +0100

with XFREE-4, and SUSE 6.3

Anyone know why ?




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From: "Jason Stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: USB Modem Install 2.4.12
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 16:25:27 -0500

I have read the how-to's but I dont understand it.....I compiled and
installed the test kernel 2.4.12, and I included USB support ACM....

I cant see my modem in HardDrake, but I can see it in USB view?

It is a Diamond Express 56k.....it's id = 045a:SUP2780

I did the whole mknod /dev/usb/ttyACM0 c 166 0     deal

but it still isnt recognized....is there something else I can do?

please help



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From: Silviu Minut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual boot WinME + Linux
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 16:29:09 -0500

Thanks! I feel much better to know that WinME behaves more like WinME and
there won't be problems with Lilo. I know how to dual boot Win9x and Linux.
So Win ME still uses FAT, right? Correct me if I'm wrong, Win 2000 uses
NTFS and so it's like WinNT. Sorry for my ignorance regarding the "other"
OS.

Thanks to all who answered!



Rod Smith wrote:

> [Posted and mailed]
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>         root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Are there any issues about WinME + Linux? Can I create all partitions
> > (including a dos partition) from the Linux install program, and then
> > install WinME in the dos partition? Where do I install Lilo? Are there
> > any documents about this, or is it the usual install?
>
> The issues are basically the same as those when dual-booting Linux and
> Windows 9x. As a general rule, it's safer to create the partitions (at
> least the Windows partitions) using DOS/Windows FDISK, and to change
> partition types as necessary with Linux's fdisk. LILO can go in the MBR
> or on the Linux boot partition (if it's a primary partition).
>
> As for documentation, there are several HOWTO documents about
> dual-booting Linux with various OSs, including Windows 9x. (I don't know
> if these have been updated for WinMe specifically, but as they're
> virtually identical from this point of view, there's not much need for
> it.) My own books, _The Multi-Boot Configuration Handbook_
> (http://www.rodsbooks.com/multiboot/) has lots of information on many
> aspects of multi-booting, although nothing WinMe-specific, since it came
> out before WinMe.
>
> --
> Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.rodsbooks.com
> Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration


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From: Alexander Dalloz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,redhat.kernel.general
Subject: Re: HPT370 and RH7.0
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 22:47:17 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <KW9Z5.59931$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Jurriaan:
> 
> Is this to say that I can also tweak the lilo.conf to get my HPT366 and
> HPT370 controllers able to allow Linux 7 to see the disks?  As you are
> aware, I cannot install Linux (any version or vendor) until I do something
> so that Linux will see the drives. (getting: No drives found)
> 
> My understanding is that you did something to enable Linux to see the disks,
> so it installed.  You did not have to bebuild the kernel because this method
> worked out for you.
> 
> What specifically did you do to tweak the lilo.conf?
> 
> FYI: I'm a Unix application developer who is struggling to get Linux 7 up on
> any one of the 6 ABit/Highpoint machines...installation does not complete-
> No drives found.
> 
> Any clues?
> 
> Thanks,
> DjM


check this:


How do I install Linux on my KT7-RAID?
This is based on installing Linux on a KT7-RAID using a 2.4.0-test 
kernel.  Thanks to D�nis Riedijk for this contribution (any questions to 
him not me please!)

Connect HD to the normal IDE controller 
Install Linux 
Boot Linux 
Get source to a recent kernel (I used 2.4.0-test8) & install version 
2.3.15 of modutils 
Configure the kernel (make xconfig / make menuconfig / make config). A 
config file is available here, save as .config in your kernel source 
directory. Make sure to include:  HPT366 support 
 Boot offboard chipset first support 
 USB support if you want it 
 other USB options. (for example see the config file above) 
 If you have a MS Intellimouse Explorer, and want to use all 7 buttons, 
use this version of mousedev.c (put it in the drivers/input directory of 
your kernel source) instead of the standard one in 2.4.0-test8 (this may 
be unneeded for later kernels) 
 If you want to use a USB mouse, make sure gpm will not run when booting 
up (in /etc/init.d in RedHat) otherwise, your keyboard will not function 
anymore 

Make clean dep bzImage modules 
Become root 
Make modules_install 
Copy arch/i386/boot/bzImage to /boot/2.4.0-test8 
Edit /etc/lilo.conf 
Copy from the standard kernel change /boot/linux to /boot/2.4.0-test8
(do not change the default setting yet) 
Run lilo 
Shut down 
Plug cable to HD on the Highpoint controller 
Boot, press <DEL> change bootup device to ATA100RAID 
Boot, press <CTRL + H> to enter highpoint BIOS, set mode to the right 
one, set the disk to boot 
Boot, on the lilo prompt type 2.4.0-test8 ide=reverse 
The kernel will now boot, if everything is alright. Your CDROM will be 
another device (For example : hdc -> hdg, hdd -> hdh) because the 
onboard controllers will now be ide2 & ide3. So change your fstab 
accordingly 
If you feel alright with the settings, change /etc/lilo.conf, set 2.4.0-
test8 as default, and add a line append="ide-reverse" below the line 
default-2.4.0-test8. Here is an example lilo.conf 
Run lilo, and don't forget to compile HPT366 & Boot offboard chipsets
first support into the kernel, in each new kernel you compile. 
Getting your usbmouse recognised upon use.
Run makedev /dev/input/mice 13 63 (CHECK NUMBERS) 
Edit /etc/modules.conf 
Add the following , or copy from this[modules.conf] one:
 alias char-major-13 explorerusb 
 alias explorerusb usb-uhci 
 post-install usb-uhci modprobe mousedev 
 post-install mousedev modprobe hid 

Run depmod -a. Make sure there is no mention of unresolved symbols. 
Now your mouse will be recognised when needed
-- 

Alexander Dalloz
Enger, Germany

PGP fingerprint: 2307 88FD 2D41 038E 7416  14CD E197 6E88 ED69 5653
PGP key valid: made 13.07.1999

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Szczesniak)
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.2 Dual Boot
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 21:29:27 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 14 Dec 2000 14:48:52 +0100, Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Please post to the NG too.
Okeedokee.   It's a pleasure to speak to you!

>put in the mandrake installation disc and run 'fdisk -l /dev/hda`
>When you can, drop to a shell <ctrl-alt-F(1 to 6, just try)>
>I would like to see the output of that. (0x44 is not a partition ID I
>know of, but it might be an error code of Presizer (Which I never heard of
>either)

Presizer's documents talk about an error.txt file, but it never came
with the zip file and it's not shown anywhere on his web page.  So it
could be an error code.

The install either runs or gives an option to (by memory here) #root
or something like that.  At that prompt I typed your command from
above and got "could not find kernel" there may have been more details
on the word kernel.  Immediately the install just ran again by itself
and I got the DiskDrake section so I wrote down the details.

DiskDrake shows a key at the top:

Red     Green   Blue    Light Grey      White
ext2    Swap    FAT     Other           Empty

The graphic section identified one drive: hde
Details were colored dark grey as in none of the above colors.
Device: hde1
Type: 68
Size: 19571 MB (99%)  (I have a 20GB)
(Then it said)
"Partition booted by default (for MS-DOS boot, not for lilo)"

Button Options were:
Mount Point
Resize
Delete

When choosing resize the message said: "After resizing partition hde1,
all data on this partition will be lost."

Options were:  OK     and     CANCEL

I chose cancel.  Please don't say, "Well go ahead and try it, you
should be ok"    : )      I love the challenge of doing it right the
first time.   If my boys were computer geeks, I take more risks and
than ask them to fix them.  Meanwhile I've got a business to run.

Still the wierd thing is that I just made a boot disk from window 98.
(add/remove programs - create startup disk)  I booted from it to try
the Presizer and before going to the a:/> got the message of an
invalid file system as mentioned in the other post - 3 possible
reasons.  1)invalid file system (win98 runs just fine/properties show
fat32) 2)Third party software (I just made the floppy from the win98
cd.) 3) Virus.

_______________________
Tom Szc....
at thomasz@jef(nospamminallowed)fnet.org

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From: "Dan Jacobson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.x,comp.emacs
Subject: Logitech wheel mouse 'TrackMan Marble+' in Mandrake 7.2
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 12:36:55 +0800

Hi, it's me, the jackoff who for the last three weeks told everybody to 'choose
intellimouse' in the Mandrake 7.2 installation, because that's what worked on
the 'test your mouse' part, instead of the distracting 'Logitech' choices given.
Well of course it doesn't actually work once one gets into daily use.  So, what
does an 'Logitech TrackMan Marble+' user actually do to get the scroll wheel
actually working?  Say even for netscape & emacs & emacs -nw...?   Sure, you're
gonna mention the usual links, but let's not be like me and not actually have
day to day proof of a working solution before posting...
--
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Tel:+886-4-5854780; starting in year 2001: +886-4-25854780



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From: "Dan Jacobson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: how many startup services [daemons] should a typical dialup modem user have 
enabled?
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 05:33:13 +0800

Just how many startup services [daemons] should a typical dialup modem user
have enabled here on Mandrake 7.2?  They sure don't give good hints when facing
the choices during installation.  Do I have too few, too many?  At least
I see that lpr/cups are redundant...  imwheel: I'm
not sure what turned it on but it doesn't work.  Me: I typically connect to the
net
1-2 hours a day via an ISP to get news & mail & browse.
$ pstree -a
init
 |-(atd)
 |-automount --timeout 60 /misc file /etc/auto.misc
 |-automount --timeout 60 /net yp auto.net
 |-crond
 |-cupsd
 |-(identd)
 |   `-(identd)
 |       |-(identd)
 |       |-(identd)
 |       `-(identd)
 |-imwheel -p
 |-(kflushd)
 |-klogd -k /boot/System.map-2.2.17-21mdk
 |-(kswapd)
 |-(kupdate)
 |-(lpd)
 |-master
 |  |-pickup -l -t fifo
 |  `-qmgr -l -t fifo -u
 |-(mdrecoveryd)
 |-(mingetty)
 |-(mingetty)
 |-(mingetty)
 |-(mingetty)
 |-(mingetty)
 |-(mingetty)
 |-named -u named -g named
 |-(pg_ctl)
 |   `-(postmaster)
 |-(prefdm)
 |   `-(autologin)
 |       `-(xinit)
 |           |-X :0 -auth /home/jidanni/.Xauthority
 |           `-(sh)
 |               |-icewm
 |               |  `-rxvt -ls
 |               |     `-bash
 |               |        `-pstree -a
 |               `-xcin
 |-syslogd -m 0
 |-xfs -port -1 -daemon
 `-(xinetd)
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From: "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to start gpm ?
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 22:05:07 GMT

On Dec 14, 2000 at 15:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] eloquently wrote:

>This is about a Synaptics TouchPad on a DELL I7500.
>
>When I issue the command
>
>     ps ax | less
>
>I see that gpm has been started by issuing the command
>
>     gpm -t ps/2
>
>But I have a Synaptics TouchPad and want to start gpm
>by issuing the command
>
>     gpm -t synps2
>
>so I can set the TouchPad parameters in /usr/local/gpm-syn.conf
>and control the features of the TouchPad.
>
>How and Where is the "gpm -t ps/2" command issued?  I have been
>studying the Red Hat Reference Guide's "Boot Process", but have
>yet to discover the secret.  If you know how, please post the
>answer.  Thanks.
Guessing that you use RH, you can make the change in
/etc/sysconfig/mouse.

-- 
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Look out!  Behind you!
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: staroffice 5.2 /net setup problem
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 22:08:24 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I was trying to run the setup program as the user... The docs seemed to
> reccomend that the following be done:
> 1) soffice_binary.bin /net
> 2) /usr/local/office52/setup <-- as user to copy the needed 1-2 megs
> over
> 3) ~username/office52/soffice  <-- to start star office after step 2
> 
> This works properly if all 3 are done for root.  As soon as #2 and #3
> are done as a user, all I can get in the case of #3 is the same setup
> program as #2 yeilds.... (ie, it wants to copy the files to my user
> directory again).
> 
> I've tried /net and -net.... I'm choosing the default install and
> sticking it in /usr/local/office52.  The user specific files do get
> copied into user (or root) directories, but only root can actually start
> star office.
> 
> Hope that clarifies..... Symlinking /usr/local/bin/soffice -->
> /usr/local/soffice/program/soffice doesn't really help.
> 
> Thanks for the help...... I swear I'd gotten this to work in whatever
> the latest release was before Sun took over, but it's been awhile....


Once you have it installed, 
(If you (root) installed it into /usr/local/office52) 
all you should need to do is to make a symlink
 
ln -s /usr/local/office52/soffice  /usr/bin/soffice  

Then login as a user and at a command line enter "soffice" this will
start the installation of the user files. For every user that wants to
run the program he/she will need to run "soffice" which if it is the
first time the user has run it, it will install the user files for that
user. 

I don't know where you came up with #2 about copying files over to the
user. The files have to be installed by the program.

-- 
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter.  http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
Completed more work units than 98.897% of seti users. +/- 0.01%

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From: "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Install redhat 6.2 whit 2.3.3 kernel
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 22:08:44 GMT

On Dec 14, 2000 at 20:31, Luke eloquently wrote:

>I have a PC whit ASUS P3BF motherboard and a UltraDMA66 13 GB hard-disk
>connected to the board whit a UltraDMA PCI card.  I'm not able to install
>Linux
>(Redhat 6.2). Linux couldn't recognize my Promise TechnologyUltraDMA card
>and conseguently the hard-disk.
>I've heard that kernel 2.3.3 supports this card. How can I get it and how
>can I install Redhat 6.2 whit it?
>Thanks in advance.
You need a boot disk with support for this. The easiest
way would be to attach the HD to the normal IDE controller
and install. Grab the kernel source and compile suitable
support for the card. Reattach the HD to the card and reboot.

Hopefully it works;-)

-- 
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                -- Dave Barry
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From: "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: staroffice 5.2 /net setup problem
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 22:13:30 GMT

On Dec 14, 2000 at 19:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] eloquently wrote:

>I was trying to run the setup program as the user... The docs seemed to
>reccomend that the following be done:
>1) soffice_binary.bin /net
>2) /usr/local/office52/setup <-- as user to copy the needed 1-2 megs
>over
>3) ~username/office52/soffice  <-- to start star office after step 2
>
>This works properly if all 3 are done for root.  As soon as #2 and #3
>are done as a user, all I can get in the case of #3 is the same setup
>program as #2 yeilds.... (ie, it wants to copy the files to my user
>directory again).
>
>I've tried /net and -net.... I'm choosing the default install and
This is done only on the initial install as root.
All subsequent installs (as users) do not do the
/net part.

[...]

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From: Gary Sandine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual boot WinME + Linux
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 22:27:28 GMT

Silviu Minut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks! I feel much better to know that WinME behaves more like WinME and
> there won't be problems with Lilo. I know how to dual boot Win9x and Linux.
> So Win ME still uses FAT, right? Correct me if I'm wrong, Win 2000 uses
> NTFS and so it's like WinNT. Sorry for my ignorance regarding the "other"
> OS.

We have made many WinMe/Linux machines.  One thing to be careful of
is that if you install WinMe second, it will overwrite LILO.  Be
sure to have a boot floppy for your Linux side handy so you can
easily boot the Linux side and reinstall LILO when WinMe is fully
installed.

We have also done "triple boots" with Linux/Win Me/Win2k Pro.
LILO controls all - choosing "dos" activates the NT loader
from which one choose Me or 2k.


http://www.lanm-pc.com (Cheap Linux boxes)

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From: Gary Sandine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 64M instead of 128M with suze7.0
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 22:30:41 GMT

Lutz Heermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Stef wrote:

> I can't tell you why, but put a line like

> append = "mem=128M"

> into your lilo.conf to avoid this problem.

If you boot another OS besides Linux with LILO, be sure to put
that line only in the section(s) pertaining to Linux, rather
than at the top (global).


http://www.lanm-pc.com (Cheap Linux boxes)

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From: Gary Sandine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problems with RedHat
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 22:37:07 GMT

root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I recently installed Red Hat Linux, and am having some problems with
> networking.  I can't connect to any of the xinetd services from another
> computer, I always get the error "No Socket".  Also, how do you disable
> the shutdown option in Gnome?  Thirdly, xdm always tries to run Gnome,
> despite adding a custom .xinitrc file to a user's home directory.  Is
> there some way to change this?  It is Red Hat 7.

I don't know about "No Socket" - when one logs in using gdm or xdm in
RH 7.0 the file /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession is used to start the X session.
It never looks for a .xinitrc file.  It does look for (in this order)
.xsession, .Xclients, and /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients.  I use fvwm2, so
I have

 exec fvwm2

in my ~/.xsession file.  Make sure .xsession is executable.


http://www.lanm-pc.com (Cheap Linux boxes)

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Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 23:28:11 -0600
From: lestat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: xterm and using backspace

try setterm=sane then
stty erase [hit backspace key]
this works on solaris running on sun work stations


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