Linux-Setup Digest #237, Volume #20 Sun, 17 Dec 00 04:13:04 EST
Contents:
Debian dselect problem: trn, leafnode, inews (Timothy A. McDaniel)
Re: Mandrake 7.2 error (new install) (him self)
Re: Does kernel 2.2.18 need to be patched for raid??? (Godfrey Livingstone)
Installation instructions for RedHat 7 and NVIDIA Geforce2 chipset ("bigtiny")
Re: suggest me one which can handle multiple POP3 email addresses?
Too many crashes on RH6.1 (David Punsalan)
Corel linux install problem, screen flashes? (Reynold Tung)
AHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH Help! ("Soundman")
Re: Can lilo handle a drive with more than 1024 cylinders
Re: Too many crashes on RH6.1 (devren bennett)
Re: debian and netscape (David Richard Larochelle)
Re: CD not supported .. how to install? (devren bennett)
Re: Linux commands and webserver .....? (devren bennett)
Re: Mandrake 7.2 Dual Boot ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Configuration not working - 2.4.0-test11 (none)
Re: AHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH Help! ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Debian dselect problem: trn, leafnode, inews ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Can lilo handle a drive with more than 1024 cylinders (none)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy A. McDaniel)
Subject: Debian dselect problem: trn, leafnode, inews
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 05:44:11 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please forgive me; I'm a relative newbie to Debian.
I installed Debian 2.2, and tonight I did another
apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade
incantation so I had the latest.
Then I wanted to install trn. Yes, it's oldish. Yes, there are other
*rn programs that are more featureful: some have scoring, for
example. But I'm used to trn, so I want it (which probably makes me a
heretic, I suppose).
So I go into dselect. I forget how I got the listing of packages to
include trn, because it wasn't on the 3 Debian CDs I got (being
non-free) -- I think it was something with dselect [A]ccess and
[U]pdate.
Anyway, I'm in [S]elect, and I look for trn:
-- Opt non-free trn <none> 3.6-13
This is what it had for leafnode and task-dialup (q.v.):
*** Xtr news leafnode 1.9.9-4 1.9.9-4
*** Opt net task-dialup 0.3 0.3
I went to the trn line and hit "+". I got a dependency page like
-* Opt non-free trn
__ Xtr news inews
-* Opt news inewsinn
__ Opt news inn2-inews
I'm suspicious of anything connected with inn or regular inews. On a
previous system I ran leafnode and it handled everything, and every so
often I got configuration error messages popping up from inn (because
I hadn't configured it, I suppose).
So I go to the "inewsinn" line and hit R, and all of them go to -- or
__. Thought that R applied only to the current line; I guess not. I
go to the "trn" line and hit "+", and now it's selected again and only
it is selected, so that's what I want. I hit Q, then Q again.
I go to [I]nstall, and it says
The following packages will be REMOVED:
leafnode task-dialup
WHAT?! In my little looking ('cause I understand little) I didn't see
any dependences or conflicts or anything in leafnode vis a vis inews
or trn! task-dialup says it depends on leafnode, at least. Naturally
(not wanting to lose leafnode and any part-time dialup stuff) I hit N.
Eventually I went to the Debian Web pages, found the latest stable trn
package, downloaded it, and figured out how to do
dpkg --force-depends -i trn_3.6-13.deb
I have yet to see whether it *works* or not, mind you. ... Ah, no:
/usr/bin/Pnews: inews: command not found
Anyone with a good explanation of why asking to *install* trn and
*ignore* three others results in wanting to *remove* leafnode and
task-dialup?
Anyone willing to suggest which of inews, inewsinn, or inn2-inews I
ought to install?
--
Tim McDaniel is [EMAIL PROTECTED]; if that fail,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is my work account.
"To join the Clueless Club, send a followup to this message quoting everything
up to and including this sig!" -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jukka Korpela)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (him self)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.2 error (new install)
Date: 17 Dec 2000 06:10:31 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 17 Dec 2000 03:10:21 GMT, Don Hinds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I can't run anything. Booting into any GUI and the screen messes and then
> lock.
Are you saying it does not run in non-GUI mode?
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From: Godfrey Livingstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does kernel 2.2.18 need to be patched for raid???
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 19:13:06 +1300
Yes you need to apply mingo's patch to 2.2.18 to get raid to work.
Unfortunately the patch does not apply cleanly it is not hard to fix but
if you have problems email me and I will send you a repackaged patch
that does apply cleanly.
Godfrey Livingstone
Ps There is no need to post to so many news groups
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Does mingo's raid patch raid-2.2.18-A2 get applied to kernel 2.2.18?
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From: "bigtiny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Installation instructions for RedHat 7 and NVIDIA Geforce2 chipset
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 06:29:19 GMT
I've been struggling with this for a couple of weeks and finally got it to
work with help from different threads and people on several linux
newsgroups. Here's what I did (is there some way to have procedures like
this archived in a FAQ or something) ????
I am using an ASUS v7100 card with the NVIDIA Geforce2 MX chipset.
Either verify that you're running XFree 4.0.1 or later; or download and
install it. I'm running RedHat 7.0 so that's what came with the
distribution.
FTP to ftp1.detonator.nvidia.com/pub/drivers/english and download the
tarballs for the NVIDIA_kernal and NVIDIA_GLX materials (I think they are
version 0.9-5).
Now untar both sets (tar xvzf 'filename'). Go to the untarred directory for
the GLX stuff and look at the README for the M64 chipset (don't ask me
why...I just know it worked for me) and make the mod it talks about
(os-registry.c in the NVIDIA_kernel make directory).
Run make in both directories. In the NVIDIA_GLX* make directory you'll see a
file called nvidia_drv.o...copy it to /usr/X11R6/lib/drivers/video (you
should see nv_drv.o in the same directory...it's for the older nvidia
chipsets).
Your make for the NVIDIA_kernel might have encountered errors trying to do
insmod on the NVdriver file. To get around them I did this from the command
line:
modprobe agpgart agp_try_unsupported=1
modprobe NVdriver
You might have to modprobe the GLX module too....I didn't, but who knows?
Go to /etc/X11 and edit your XF86Config-4 file. In the devices section
specify 'nvidia' for the driver name.
This worked for me. At the beginning of the XF86Config-4 file there's a list
of modules that get loaded. On my system there was a call to load a module
called "v41" that didn't exist, so I commented it out.
I also put the modprobe commands in /etc/rc.local at the end so that they
will get loaded at boot time. I don't boot my system into the X environment
initially and this has worked for me. If you boot up directly into X, I
can't tell you whether doing the modprobes in the rc.local script will
work...there may boot chronology issues (you may need the modprobes executed
before rc.local gets run....) I don't have any experience with this, so I
don't know.
If someone does know of a place to archive this procedure and how to do it,
please let me know and I'll do it. I installed Linux to learn, and I learned
A LOT trying to get this card to work, but I think some of it was
unnecessarily painful. I think it's just because people are at such
different levels of experience and certain knowledge is just VERY hard to
find....anyway, thanks to all who responded various messages and threads and
I hope this explanation helps the next person who has to deal with this...
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: suggest me one which can handle multiple POP3 email addresses?
Date: 17 Dec 2000 06:54:27 GMT
I use kmail. (SuSE 6.4)
-- Gene Wiggins
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
news <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have installed RedHat 6. It's working fine. The KDE can handle dialup very
> efficiently. But I need an email client. I have visited the site.
> can anyone suggest me one which can handle multiple POP3 email addresses?
> Thank you in advance.
> Joarder
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: David Punsalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Too many crashes on RH6.1
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 00:49:05 -0600
Reply-To: David Punsalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi,
I have been running RH6.1 (GNOME Workstation installation) on my AMDk6 -
350Mhz 64MB ram (128MB swap) for a while now and I am tired of X apps
crashing/freezing on me. I run 2 maybe 3 apps at a time (Netscape, XMMS,
terminal, GIMP). I would think this should be no problem. Is this
relatively common for RH6.1?
I am beginning to think that in order to get these long uptimes I keep
hearing about in linux, I need to run X-less.
Is there a better distribution that runs X applications with more
stability out of the box? I just don't know where to begin as far as
manually making my system more stable against freezes/crashes besides
investing in ram. I was thinking about Mandrake 7.2. I tried installing
Debian 2.1 on my system but it just never worked.
Thanks for any input.
Regards,
David
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From: Reynold Tung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Corel linux install problem, screen flashes?
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 07:00:14 +0000 (UTC)
I installed Core Linux on D: drive of a Win98 machine, when I start Linux
it goes thru boot sequence OK, but when it get to root login the screen
starts flashing, so much that I'm unable to login, has anyhone else seen
this and is there a resolution?
thanks,
Reynold tung
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From: "Soundman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: AHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH Help!
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 07:00:53 GMT
Well I just installed red hat linuz 7.0 with the KDE desktop enviroment. I
am about ready to throw my monitor out the window as a result. I have
looked all over the web for basic help such as How to install a program
geting ar ound the system , etc. I am interested in all the power that linux
has but I cant seem to do anything. Please help this newbie.
I have had extensive expierence with windows 9x and nt but linux seems to be
a cryptic maze with no crear directions.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can lilo handle a drive with more than 1024 cylinders
Date: 17 Dec 2000 07:06:19 GMT
So long as you put the /boot partition entirely below the 1024th
cylinder, you should be fine. The rest of Linux can be on an
extended Linux partition.
-- Gene Wiggins
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
srinivas_vanjari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> I have a computer on which i am currently running windows and i wish to
> use linux also. But my hard disk is more than 1024 cylinders in size (
> 20 GB) and i am not sure whether i will be able to boot both windows
> and linux using windows. I also want to know whether the linux
> partition should start from the beginning or whether it can be anywhere
> else.
> I would be grateful if you can also provide me some info on how to set
> up linux for dial-up (red hat 7). I am a novice.
> Thanking you,
> --
> regards,
> srinivas_vanjari,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
--
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From: devren bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Too many crashes on RH6.1
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 23:53:45 -0900
rh 6.1 is pretty good. i run in kde, and don't have many problems. one
thing you might check is if your machine is keeping cool enough. also,
upgrade to netscape 4.76, not netscape 6.
my input
David Punsalan wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have been running RH6.1 (GNOME Workstation installation) on my AMDk6 -
> 350Mhz 64MB ram (128MB swap) for a while now and I am tired of X apps
> crashing/freezing on me. I run 2 maybe 3 apps at a time (Netscape, XMMS,
> terminal, GIMP). I would think this should be no problem. Is this
> relatively common for RH6.1?
>
> I am beginning to think that in order to get these long uptimes I keep
> hearing about in linux, I need to run X-less.
>
> Is there a better distribution that runs X applications with more
> stability out of the box? I just don't know where to begin as far as
> manually making my system more stable against freezes/crashes besides
> investing in ram. I was thinking about Mandrake 7.2. I tried installing
> Debian 2.1 on my system but it just never worked.
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
> Regards,
> David
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From: David Richard Larochelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: debian and netscape
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 03:25:29 -0500
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Michael Perry wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Dec 2000 02:13:58 -0500, David Richard Larochelle
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Hi all, when I try to run netscape on debian 2.2 I get:
> > ~ >communicator
> >grep: /etc/netscape4/config: No such file or directory
> >egrep: /etc/netscape4/config: No such file or directory
> >Netscape: Ignoring unsupported format code in mailcap file: %{
> >Bus error
> >
> >I can't seem to track this down. I've tried removing and reinstall
> >netscaoe but this doesn't work.
> >
> >Any suggestions?
> >
> >Thanks in advance,
> >
> >
> How did you install communicator? Did you do an apt-get install
> communicator? It grabs a lot of files. You may not have gotten all the
> netscape files like base or whatever.
>
I used dselect and selected the communicator package.
I tired reinstalling and selected every recommended package except foreing
language support. A quick check a after dselect showed the newly
installed packages to be:
communicator-base-476_4.76-1_i386.deb
netscape-base-476_4.76-1_i386.deb
communicator-nethelp-476_4.76-1_all.deb
netscape-base-4_1%3a4.76-1_i386.deb
communicator-smotif-476_4.76-1_i386.deb netscape-java-476_4.76-1_all.deb
communicator-spellchk-476_4.76-1_all.deb
communicator_1%3a4.76-1_i386.deb plugger_3.2-3_i386.deb
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From: devren bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CD not supported .. how to install?
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 23:56:29 -0900
boot into ms-dos with windows. go to the redhat cd. in there, you'll find a
dosutil directory, or something like that. run the autoboot program out of
there. that will boot a linux kernel and start the intallation.
Trebor wrote:
> I'm trying to come up with a plan to install RH on my system. But my CD is
> provided by my Sound Blaster 16 card .. I think this CD drive is not
> bootable, as it isn't available to Win95 until after the drivers are loaded
> during the boot process.
>
> The Red Hat compatability list has a big "?" question mark under the status
> column for this device. (that's not very encouraging).
>
> I'm wondering if, since I have two physical drives in my system (one already
> has Win95, and has about 5GB free space; the other will be receiving Red
> Hat), I thought it might be possible to copy the entire Red Hat installation
> CD to the free space of my Win95 disk, copy the Linux installer boot image
> to floppy, and then boot off that floppy to begin the install. After that,
> if I could point to the hard disk location to which I copied the entire
> CD-ROM in order to continue the installation, then everything would work.
>
> Does the installer allow this type of approach?
>
> Also, my BIOS doesn't support >500MB drives. I've been using Maxtor's
> Maxblast LBA translator to be able to work with my 12 GB hard drive in
> Win95. My 2nd physical drive is 20G. Will I need Maxblast at all? Even if I
> don't need a >504MB /boot partition?
>
> Also, would any of this be easier if I selected redhat 6.2 instead of 7.0?
>
> TIA,
> -Bob
> Andover, MA
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From: devren bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux commands and webserver .....?
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 00:03:46 -0900
tail -f /your/httpd/logs usually /var/logs/whatever or /var/adm/whatever
Louis Hajjar wrote:
> Hello to all,
>
> Allways I want'd to ask if there a commands in Linux to check the server who
> is in and all what is hapening in the webserver?
> I know just:
> w
> netstat -M
>
> is there any beter good command's.
>
> Thanks for your time
>
> Louis
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.2 Dual Boot
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 08:44:35 GMT
Tom Szczesniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> from dos? Anyway, I ran the linux install disk which gave two
> options: 1) install 2) more options. The 'more options' got me to the
Take no notice of the install. Step aside to the prompt on another
console. Ideally, run from a rescue disk or use the rescue option on
the cd if there is one so that there can be no "install".
> prompt which I believe is a linux prompt - the root with a "#"
> somewhere in it. At that root prompt I typed your command. It said
> "could not find kernel" and then it immediately continued with it's
No it didn't. You were clearly not at a prompt because if you had been
it wouldn't have gone on in any way. You would have had control, not
some other program.
And looking for a kernel is not the business of fdisk!
> normal installation from the cd (it looked at drives, keyboard, mouse
> and brought me up to the partitioning section again).
And you shoud have stepped aside to a command line prompt on another
console again.
> So that's what happened by using the command: fdisk -l /dev/hda at a
> linux prompt.
No it didn't. Try again, this time _correctly_. You have been,
metaphorically, holding the telephone handset upside down and
complaining that it doesn't work.
Peter
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From: none <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Configuration not working - 2.4.0-test11
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 01:01:43 -0800
For the ata/100 have you tried www.linux-ide.org? It has backports to
recent kernels (a backport is a patch to an older kernel with material
from the newer). As for your sound, I don't know of any sound backports.
Drew wrote:
>
> I hate to bother you with a newbie question - but I'm a newbie! Trying very
> very hard to learn Linux, but mostly alone. I'll begin attending a user
> group next week - hopefully that will help me pick up things faster.
> Here's my question. I have spent weeks trying to setup a Linux system, but
> every device I try to configure is a nightmare. I have just about given up
> on setting up the sound card. I am running kernal 2.4.0-test11 because it
> supports my new motherboard with its ATA100 controller but I am beginning to
> think that I may be having the problems I am having because this is a beta
> kernal (supposedly not stable yet). Maybe if I reverted back to my stable
> Mandrake 7.1 installation, and just patched or RPMed the ATA100 controller,
> and the driver for my new sound card (a Soundblaster Live), I could avoid
> all these problems. My problem is I can't find an RPM for the ATA100
> controller or the sound card. Can't find patches for them either. And I'm
> such a newbie that I don't know if the ATA100 driver is something that is
> even available as a patch or RPM. Does it have to come with the kernal, or
> can it be added into the kernal via patch or RPM?
> Any help or advice would be much appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Drew
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH Help!
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 09:04:37 GMT
Soundman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have had extensive expierence with windows 9x and nt but linux seems to be
> a cryptic maze with no crear directions.
Read a book. Your distros manual would be a good start. As would any of the
faqs. Cryptic maze? What do you mean? It's plain unix with a gui on
top.
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Debian dselect problem: trn, leafnode, inews
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 09:04:36 GMT
Timothy A. McDaniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I installed Debian 2.2, and tonight I did another
> apt-get update
> apt-get dist-upgrade
> incantation so I had the latest.
> Then I wanted to install trn. Yes, it's oldish. Yes, there are other
So do
apt-get install trn
> So I go into dselect. I forget how I got the listing of packages to
Major mistake (;-).
> -* Opt non-free trn
> __ Xtr news inews
> -* Opt news inewsinn
> __ Opt news inn2-inews
> I'm suspicious of anything connected with inn or regular inews. On a
> previous system I ran leafnode and it handled everything, and every so
> often I got configuration error messages popping up from inn (because
> I hadn't configured it, I suppose).
Well, it's probable. You should not have inn on the suystem at all.
> I go to [I]nstall, and it says
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
> leafnode task-dialup
Apparently they're not selected. I hate dselect.
> Eventually I went to the Debian Web pages, found the latest stable trn
> package, downloaded it, and figured out how to do
> dpkg --force-depends -i trn_3.6-13.deb
Surely it doesn't depend on anything .. let me see ...
Provides: news-reader
Depends: libc6, libc6 (>= 2.1), libncurses4 (>= 4.2-3.1), inews
Well, apparantly it does have a dependency on inews! I think that's a
dependency bug. It should depend on "news-server" or some other
virtual. Read the README and later, if necessary, talk to the maintainer
about it:
Maintainer: Matthew Vernon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Version: 3.6-11
> I have yet to see whether it *works* or not, mind you. ... Ah, no:
> /usr/bin/Pnews: inews: command not found
You must be forgetting to run it in remote mode. It's looking on your
system for a news server. You want it to look elsewhere.
> Anyone with a good explanation of why asking to *install* trn and
> *ignore* three others results in wanting to *remove* leafnode and
> task-dialup?
Presumably because they were only included in the first place because
of "suggested"s that you have now invalidated.
> Anyone willing to suggest which of inews, inewsinn, or inn2-inews I
> ought to install?
inews is what trn says it wants.
Sure you don't prefer tin to trn?
Peter
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From: none <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can lilo handle a drive with more than 1024 cylinders
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 01:08:02 -0800
If you use a newer lilo (you should, you are using RH7) it will be fine
(remove linear and add lba32 to /etc/lilo.conf).
As for your dial-up - check my guide at:
http://home.inreach.com/majackson/neomodem.txt
I think it should cover the basics. It wirks fine on my RH7 system so
everything is still current.
srinivas_vanjari wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a computer on which i am currently running windows and i wish to
> use linux also. But my hard disk is more than 1024 cylinders in size (
> 20 GB) and i am not sure whether i will be able to boot both windows
> and linux using windows. I also want to know whether the linux
> partition should start from the beginning or whether it can be anywhere
> else.
>
> I would be grateful if you can also provide me some info on how to set
> up linux for dial-up (red hat 7). I am a novice.
>
> Thanking you,
>
> --
> regards,
> srinivas_vanjari,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
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