Linux-Setup Digest #237, Volume #21 Wed, 16 May 01 03:13:15 EDT
Contents:
Re: Dell Optiplex 110 or Call Linux ("S h i s h i r")
Re: modprobe message ("Jerry W. Segers. Jr.")
Re: help with dual boot, dual drive setup? ("Jerry W. Segers. Jr.")
Re: A CPU cooler for Linux? (Angry Bob)
Re: configure kernel-2.4.4 (Angry Bob)
Xfree 4.0.3 and ARK2000PV ("Petr Halas")
Re: Returned mail: see transcript for details ("v.naga srinivas")
Re: DNS Setup (Jeff Muse)
In gvim is there any functionality like to show what all functions exist in a file?
("v.naga srinivas")
Re: Ready to Migrate... but ("Jerry W. Segers. Jr.")
Re: LILO 1024 cylinder limit (Sven Bovin)
Re: filename contains ":" characters in scp? (Sven Bovin)
Re: Help with assigning eth0/eth1 to proper NICs (Chris Bragg)
Re: filename contains ":" characters in scp? (Wayne Pollock)
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From: "S h i s h i r" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dell Optiplex 110 or Call Linux
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 10:53:23 +0530
Hi Edward,
I recently installed Mandrake 7.2 and Redhat 7.0 on my Dell Optiplex GX 110.
X works fine, but I was not able to configure sound inspite of it showing no
errors. I have installed ALSA drivers and utilities. As for Redhat 6.2, try
downloading the new XFREE86 server which has support for frame buffer built
into it. But I think a distro upgrade would be just fine. In case you need
the new RPM, I can mail it to you too.
- Shishir
"Edward Iglesias" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9drhpr$69q$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> After having an incredibly frustrating call with a Dell tech support
person who told me to "call linux" I am doing just
> that. It seems that Dell does not support any of its systems sold with
Windows 98 if you choose to upgrade to Linux.
> This being the case, is there anyone out there with experience putting
Linux Redhat 6.2 on a Dell Optiplex 110.
> Xconfigure wont read the correct vga card (intel 810E Chipset) and the
screen is apparently too new. I have ordered 7.0
> but being an educational institution things go a bit slowly around here.
Any help would be appreciated.
>
> --
> Edward Iglesias
> Librarian
> Delgado Community College--West Bank
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From: "Jerry W. Segers. Jr." <segers_remove_this_so_it'[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: modprobe message
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 01:15:10 -0400
Sorry for the weird spacing, my newsreader re-wraps my posts into a less
readable form (believe it or not) without them.
there are aparently 3 problems in your (/etc/modules.conf). Assuming that
you're using ALSA, the lines
alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1
alias sound-service-1-0 snd-mixer-oss
appear to be missing. This is needed for OSS emulation
and you need to run
$ depmod -a
as well.
sorry, I don't know what block-major-48 needs to be aliased to, do you
have a Mylex DAC960 PCI RAID controller? that's what a block major 48
should be (from <linux kernel source path>/Documentation/devices.txt)
<shrug>
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Martin Collins"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> System: OpenLinux 3.1, kernel 2.4.2
>
> I'm getting the following modprobe messages. Does anyone know what they
> mean?
>
> Can't locate module block-major-48
> /etc/modules.conf is more recent than /lib/modules/2.4.2/modules.dep
>
> Can't locate module sound-slot-1
> Can't locate module sound-service-1-0
>
> My sound card functions fine. So I guess the sound module is there?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Martin.
>
>
>
>
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From: "Jerry W. Segers. Jr." <segers_remove_this_so_it'[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help with dual boot, dual drive setup?
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 01:22:59 -0400
also, if you want df to work on the windows drive, or you want to be able
to read/write it from linux, you must mount it. to make it do this
automatically at bootup, check
$ man fstab
$ man mount
In article <9dcjj4$me$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Angry Bob"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What would you like to read? [[EMAIL PROTECTED] or ?*] this is a
> Kuenley Chiu scroll! it says:
>
>> I was hoping to set up lilo so that I could choose either one to boot
>> from -- but now, when I do "df" in linux, I only see the linux drive.
>> The windows boot can only see its drive also (actually it sees a new
>> hard drive, but can't open it).
>
> you can use 'linuxconf' or 'diskdrake' to figure out what your windows
> partition is (probably /dev/hdc2 or something like that)
>
> then you need to put an entry in your /etc/lilo.conf that points to that
> partition for booting.... I dont' remember the syntax off the top of my
> head, but you can do a google search for "dual boot howto" or "windows
> lilo" or something like that to figure out the syntax.
>
> after you've added the entry, run 'lilo' to read in the new lilo.conf
> file.
>
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From: Angry Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A CPU cooler for Linux?
Date: 16 May 2001 05:29:27 GMT
What would you like to read? [[EMAIL PROTECTED] or ?*]
this is a [EMAIL PROTECTED] scroll! it says:
> I noticed that my Windows with Waterfall Pro (CPU cooler software) keeps
> the CPU temperature low. In Linux, it is higher even when idled. I
> thought Linux had a CPU cooler code.
> Did I miss something? I am a Linux newbie, so hopefully I don't have to
> recompile Kernel. I am using RedHat Linux v7.1. I look forward to
> receiving replies soon. Thanks! :)
go download theyself the latest kernel source and compile APM into it.
<smile>
--
AngryBob Systems Consultant - http://www.trellisinc.com
I ust Mandrake Linux for the same reason I turn the light switch
on and off 17 times before leaving the room.... If I don't my
family will die. -- I wish I remembered.
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From: Angry Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: configure kernel-2.4.4
Date: 16 May 2001 05:38:05 GMT
What would you like to read? [[EMAIL PROTECTED] or ?*]
this is a Dave Uhring scroll! it says:
> Kevin Lee wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I am encountering a problem while removing dependencies for compiling
>> the kenel. I am running rh 6.2 with kernel-2.2.14. Following is the error
>> msg encountered. Is there anyway to get around it?
>>
>> /usr/include/bits/local_lim.h:27: linux/limits.h: No such file or directory
>> make: *** [scripts/mkdep] Error 1
> Download and install an up-to-date kernel, like linux-2.2.19. Those
> older kernels have some serious security problems.
This is true.... and then after you untar it into /usr/src/linux, you
should do this:
ln -s /usr/include/linux /usr/src/linux/include/linux
you may have to delete what was once there (in
/usr/include/linux).... you can save it somewhere else if you are
feeling cautious.
it makes your /usr/include/linux header files nice and fresh.
--
AngryBob Systems Consultant - http://www.trellisinc.com
You've never eaten a packing peanut?
--Nick Black
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From: "Petr Halas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Xfree 4.0.3 and ARK2000PV
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 07:27:06 +0200
Hello,
I own a Diamond Stealth 64 Graphics 2001, which uses an ARK Logic ARK2000PV
PCI
Graphics Chip, an ICS5341 GENDAC 24 bit DAC and a ICS5340/1/2 GENDAC
Integrated Clock. I am kind of new to Linux, and I must confess I was pretty
confused (and amazed), and I was only able to run X using a vesa driver (a
lot of flickering, poor performance and interlaced modes).
But I managed to use the ARK driver (OK, it wasn't difficult :-) Well, the
card is correctly detected (ARK Logic 2000PV), and I configured some video
modes. But when I start X-Window, max. resolution is 800x600 in 16 colors at
60 Hz
I have monitor Nokia 447X.
I've tried disabling acceleration (Option noaccel), putting a line
("Clockchip ICS5342"), in XF86Config file, among other things, without
results.
I would like to know if you can help me making my card to work with XFree86,
your help will be very appreciated. If this isn't the most correct place to
find help, I apologize and ask for some better directions.
Best regards,
Petr
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("v.naga srinivas")
Subject: Re: Returned mail: see transcript for details
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 05:41:41 +0000 (UTC)
Yah, the SuSE 6.3 kernel version 2.2.13( which i am using now)
supporting the ntfs filesystem........
I successfully mounted my hda1 disk which is having windows, and i tried
to write the disk, its writing but,while saving its generating
so many filename.swp files.. I could't understand this..
And here one more doubt came, i am having hda2 is a exteneded
partition..
How to mount onto linux and see the files there...Because i stored while
using
windows some important backups....
thanks in advance,
regards,
srinivas.
http://www.nagasrinivasv.com
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yvl software consultancy,
b4,q1,6th floor,
cyber towers, hi-tec city,
madhapur, hyderabad-500033
AndhraPradesh State,
INDIA.
visit me: http://www.nagasrinivasv.com
phone: 091-040-3110200
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From: Jeff Muse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DNS Setup
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 00:43:09 -0500
sang wrote:
> Hi, i am new to linux.
>
> After i setup NETWORK in LINUX same to NT, i cannot access internet.
>
> LINUX can access other NT computer in same LAN, and NT can access
> internet with one router.
>
> ping gateway is ok.
> but when i
> ping www.redhat.com
> the error is:
> ping : unknown host www.redhat.com
You should have a file called /etc/resolv.conf. This specifies addresses
for your name servers. You can just enter a name-value pair like this:
nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx. There are options for expanding domain names
as well - check the man page for these.
Make sure that the correct name server is specified and that it is
reachable from the linux box with ping.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("v.naga srinivas")
Subject: In gvim is there any functionality like to show what all functions exist in a
file?
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 06:21:25 +0000 (UTC)
Hi,
Is there any functionality in gvim, to show what all functions
exist in a file ( .c file) and the classes information (.cpp files)..
Any helpful script....
I am using gvim-5.7-78 and vim-5.4-15
and SuSE 6.3..
And also similarly for Advanced Editor coming with KDE, kwrite
0.98..
thanks in advance..
regards,
srinivas.
--
v.naga srinivas
yvl software consultancy,
b4,q1,6th floor,
cyber towers, hi-tec city,
madhapur, hyderabad-500033
AndhraPradesh State,
INDIA.
visit me: http://www.nagasrinivasv.com
phone: 091-040-3110200
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From: "Jerry W. Segers. Jr." <segers_remove_this_so_it'[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ready to Migrate... but
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 02:23:26 -0400
login as root in any valid run level
set up the new partitions
mount the new / partition somewhere, mount the new /foo partition under
it, repeat until finished.
cp -a /foo /<mount point for new />/foo
repeat until finished
edit /<mount point for new />/etc/fstab
_ADD_ the new disk to /etc/lilo.conf, and copy it to /<mount point for new
/>/etc/lilo.conf (make it such that if you screwed up, you can still boot
the old one)
run lilo, reboot, clean up the mess.
If you want the new disk to be on the same /dev/hdX as the old one, swap
the disks, install linux on the new disk, boot into single user mode,
mount the old one, cp -a what you want, and reboot.
Is there an easier way to do this??????
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Mike Martin"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm ready to migrate my Linux System to a new hard drive. One question I
> have to answer though:
>
> The current system is a 15Meg /boot partition a swap and everything else
> is in one big partition. i will be splitting this up between a number of
> different partitions on a different drive. I have created the new
> partitions and file-systems. How do I copy the current system onto the
> new drive? I can simply "cp" everything.... but I don't think I can do
> this from an active file-system. But how do I make it inactive?
> Everything is on that drive.
>
> Can I re-mount it read only? How?
> Do I need to use a boot disk? What needs to be on the disk? Should I
> reboot to single-user mode?
>
> Any help is appreciated! Thanks!
>
> (Its a Redhat 6.2 installation)
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From: Sven Bovin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.linux,alt.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: LILO 1024 cylinder limit
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 08:38:40 +0200
"Rene M�rten" wrote:
>
> Jan Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >1. In the first 1024 block of the HDD
> > >2. In the first ~8GB of the HDD if the BIOS can abstract disk sectors
> for
> > >LILO
> >
> > All wrong. LILO must beinstalled in the MBR (to be able to boot the
> > system) or in the first sector of the partiition on which linux will
> > boot if you intend to use a 3rd party loader. HOWEVER the partition
> > holding the boot components for linux must reside below the 1023rd
> > cylinder of the disk.
>
> Also wrong :=)
> With the newest LILO you can boot from any position on your harddisk.
IF your BIOS supports certain extensions to (IIRC) int13.
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sven dot bovin at chem dot kuleuven dot ac dot be
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From: Sven Bovin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: filename contains ":" characters in scp?
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 08:34:34 +0200
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.help Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 15 May 2001 18:53:29 +0200, "Peter T. Breuer"
> >> scp [-aAqQprvBCL1] [-S path-to-ssh] [-o ssh-options]
> >> [-P port] [-c cipher] [-i identity]
> >> [[user@]host1:]filename1... [[user@]host2:]filename2
> >>
> >>See it?
>
> > Hint for the clueless, one of the names for the local system is
> > 'localhost'
>
> awww ... a puzzle spoiler! Should have been written upside down at the
> bottom of the next page :-).
Yep, but you're probably one of the lucky bastards with an
LCD. It's such a PITA to turn my CRT upside down and look
in the backside :-)
Sven
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From: Chris Bragg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Help with assigning eth0/eth1 to proper NICs
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 08:48:38 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 15 May 2001 17:04:04 -0400, Brian Davis wrote:
> Hi,
> I've got 2 3c509s in a my Linux box (Mandrake 8). One is an ISA card, and
> one is built on the Motherboard. Anyway, they are being setup with one as
> eth0 and the other as eth1 (obviously). What I want to do is flip that
> assignment (long story having to do with cable provider and scripts I've
> already written). I want mac 00:10:4b:ce:11:55 to be eth0 and
> 00:c0:4f:c4:33:37 to be eth1. Here is the current output from ifconfig
> -a:
>
> eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:C0:4F:C4:33:37
> BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
> RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
> RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
> Interrupt:5 Base address:0x220
>
> eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:10:4B:CE:11:55
> inet addr:24.147.19.101 Bcast:24.147.23.255 Mask:255.255.248.0
> UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MTU:1500 Metric:1
> RX packets:43756 errors:4 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:4
> TX packets:19029 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> collisions:156 txqueuelen:100
> RX bytes:29961426 (28.5 Mb) TX bytes:1448254 (1.3 Mb)
> Interrupt:10 Base address:0x230
>
> I believe that the IRQs and IOs are being setup by PNP, especially since
> I've tried the 3c5x9setup executable, changed the IRQ and IO, and they are
> effectively ignored.
>
> I've followed the Ethernet-HOWTO regarding eth0/eth1 assignment and setup
> the /etc/modules.conf as follows:
>
> alias eth0 3c509
> alias eth1 3c509
> options 3c509 io=0x230,io=0x220
>
> But I get the following error output after running modprobe:
>
> [root@h00104bce1155 net]# modprobe 3c509
> /lib/modules/2.4.3-20mdk/kernel/drivers/net/3c509.o.gz: invalid
> parameter parm_io
> /lib/modules/2.4.3-20mdk/kernel/drivers/net/3c509.o.gz: insmod
> /lib/modules/2.4.3-20mdk/kernel/drivers/net/3c509.o.gz failed
> /lib/modules/2.4.3-20mdk/kernel/drivers/net/3c509.o.gz: insmod 3c509
> failed
> [root@h00104bce1155 net]#
>
> Any help/ideas is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Brian
>
>
>
Hey Brian,
>From what I understand, the assignment of which NIC gets eth0 and which one
gets eth1 has to do with their placement on the PCI bus. For example, in
most cases, from the top down in your computer, the first NIC in PCI slot 0
would get eth0, the next eth1, etc. Now, it would seem that since your
second NIC is an ISA card, it is looked at last every time, meaning it will
always be assigned as eth1. And, since your built in NIC is most likely
sitting on the PCI bus, and isn't actually in a slot, it is probably always
going to be seen as the first device on the PCI bus. One thing you may try
is to put in a 2nd NIC (a PCI one) and see whether choosing the different
available slots you have left allows that card to be recognized as eth0. Of
course, the last option would be to disable the built in NIC, and use 2 NIC
cards that you can put in whichever position suits you (but I'm sure you've
already considered that...).
Good Luck!
--
Chris Bragg, Founder
Geilenkirchen Linux Users Group (GKLUG)
http://www.gklug.org
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From: Wayne Pollock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: filename contains ":" characters in scp?
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 02:44:54 -0400
On the other hand, your physix <g> professor must make a choice:
either teach a simplified physics course that the majority can
understand and feel good about, or teach a tough course that only
majors will appreciate. (In my experience about 1 in 30 students.)
The simple approach is useless to those who plan a career in physics
and already understand the basics. (Notice how I avoid contention
by using physics not linux? :-) The expert approach leads to
student frustation and complaints.
The better schools have two courses, physics for majors and physics
for non-majors. But if your institution only has one course and
you must teach it, then you must choose which audience to teach
for. There is no approach that will satisfy all students.
In the early days of the Internet where there were only a few
dozen netnews groups, there were two unix groups only, "unix-wizards"
and another (the name escapes me). The experts with no patience
for newbie questions read and posted in the wizards group, those
who found newbie questions interesting (or amusing) used the
other. The system seemed to work, maybe its time for
"comp.os.linux.experts-only"?
Just my 2 cents, worth about $0.00000001 on the open market.
-Wayne Pollock
rdh wrote:
>
> On Tue, 15 May 2001 18:50:55 +0200, "Peter T. Breuer"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > So apparently "common knowledge" is not common to many
> >people.
>
> That's my point. Things that are "common knowledge" to UNIX admins
> aren't necessarily common knowledge to everyone else. If one has only
> heard of Linux within the last week, and only installed it yesterday,
> then one isn't going to know as much as Peter T. Breuer.
>
> These groups are full of new users, Peter. While your advice might be
> beneficial to me and to several other regulars, the majority of Linux
> newbies posting and lurking here might as well be sitting in a class
> with my old professors. There is nothing more frustrating than being
> a freshman undergraduate in a 101- or 102-level class, listening to a
> professor who seems to think he's delivering a refresher course to his
> fellow Ph.D.'s. That is the situation you put many of these newbies
> in.
>
> Don't get me wrong. I've been hanging around c.o.l.* for a while, and
> you're one of the most knowledgable people I've seen. You've given me
> numerous helpful tips (or given tips to others, which I read and found
> applicable). But many of your responses to newbies are less than
> helpful -- in fact, some of them go so far over the querent's head
> that the poor soul's only options are to become utterly confused, or
> to ignore your post entirely (an option made easier by the abrasive
> manner in which some of your answers are delivered).
>
> All I'm saying is that you might consider giving some of these people
> a break. They want to learn, but that takes time. They don't yet
> have the underlying concepts -- these *cannot* be glossed over when
> trying to teach them. You just can't jump straight to the advanced
> stuff. It will not work.
>
> --
> Russell rdh at salug dot org
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