Linux-Setup Digest #244, Volume #20 Mon, 18 Dec 00 08:13:09 EST
Contents:
How to restore Mandrake 7.2 to initial setup? (steve mcclue)
Re: Suggestions for Linux Modems (David)
Re: Question about KDE2 (ozetechnology)
Re: SoundCard ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Debian dselect problem: trn, leafnode, inews ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Mandrake 7.2 Dual Boot ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: which LINUX to choose (Anita Lewis)
Slow telnet and FTP with Redhat 7.0 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Need insights into Slackware setup.... ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: error on 'make bzImage', please help! ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Distribution for an old PC ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Netscape 6 for linux ("Beavis Christ")
Re: Kernel Panic, Please Help...I am Panicking Too ("Beavis Christ")
Re: winmodem ("Beavis Christ")
Okay, now that I've got my system finally installed. Build Question. ("Beavis
Christ")
Rage Fury Maxx 64MB (Jeanice Albertoe)
Re: Can you install Corel 2 over Mandrake 7.2 ? (Richard Storey)
Re: Kernel Panic, Please Help...I am Panicking Too ("Peter T. Breuer")
S3trio3D problem with Suse 7.0 (system hangs) (JanJaap van Benthem)
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From: steve mcclue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to restore Mandrake 7.2 to initial setup?
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 09:23:59 +0000
Dear All,
I have Mandrake 7.2 running on a dual boot PC, and while I like the
system very much I've had terrible problems with the soundcard (an
SB32 plug and pray) and my modem (Pace 56 internal). While they have
each worked occassionally, they have never worked at the same time,
and my poor old Mandrake configuration is now in a bit of a tizz as a
result of my efforts to try to make them do so.
Is there a way to return Mandrake to its initial setting without doing
a full re-install, or do I need to hose my hard drive once again? I
couldn't find anything on the Mandrake site to help me, and the distro
I have came without a user guide.
TIA
Steve
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Suggestions for Linux Modems
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 10:24:42 GMT
Lemuel Abarte wrote:
>
> I have an Intel i810 chipset with an AMR (winmodem system). Any suggestions for
> a good Linux modem, 36k or 56k? Old models are readily available in Thailand.
>
> TIA,
>
> Lemuel
I use a 3Com courier v.everything 56k v.90 x2 ISA and have no troubles
with it at all. I just have to change the initialization string to:
AT&F1 &U=32 &N=39
In a different system I use a usrobotice 56k voice/data/fax ISA and have
no problems.
--
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Completed more W/U's than 98.899% of seti users. +/- 0.01%
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From: ozetechnology <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Question about KDE2
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 11:03:02 GMT
Also just installed KDE2.01, which BTW is excellent, if does have a
windoze like memory footprint.
Anyway.
I take it you are trying to install from the rpm's and its complaining
about crypt and ssl libs? There are two things that you can do with this.
1. Install the open_ssl rpm's
2. Build it from source, which was my fix.
After these it will still complain but when forced seems ok.
As for the larger icons, I get this also on both my RH6.2 systems, one
from rpms the other built from source (now that was fun, not!). I
checked the actual image files used for xmms and up2date and both are
just larger image files, they are in /usr/share/pixmaps and the menu
default enteries are in /etc/X11/applnk
I have had all sorts of problem when I try and change the icons on some
menu items or add new ones with the menu editor, the icon change seems
to get ignored. Bug?? Has anyone else seen this? Now I have resorted to
hand hacking the files.
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I just bought Red Hat 7.0 and would like to upgrade to KDE 2.0.1. I
> downloaded all the files from their ftp server for it... Just have a
> few questions:
>
> 1. It complains about dependencies.. how do i fix?
>
> 2. I force the install, and some of the menu icons are bigger than the
> others. How do i fix it?
>
> 3. KDE is the default desktop on my system. How do i fix the login
> screen because it looks messed up? (some of the graphics arent there)
>
> Dave
>
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SoundCard
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 20:59:15 +0100
enness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> run 'sndconfig' from root. But I dont have sndconfig anywhere in my machine.
> I tried to install it from a RPM (which said sndconfig-x-y-z...) in one of
> the CDs, but the package installer says that an 'Unsatisfied
> dependency'(??) - "awesf" exists. I could not find naything like that in the
> CDs (That is asking too much of a Brand new newbie like me!!). Doe anyone
Then look harder, because nobody is going to do your looking for you.
Use rpmfind if you want to save yourself even that.
> I have anther simple question: How to know what all files are there in each
> linux partition. (Like where is root, /home, /etc, /usr) or the converse,
> which file is on which partition?
What do you mean, and why do you care? Man locate. Man find.
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Debian dselect problem: trn, leafnode, inews
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 23:23:42 +0100
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In this specific case, I'd probably use java-virtual-machine-dummy to
> sort out dependencies on java-virtual-machine, as the package is already
> there and its dependencies are maintained by one of the Debian Java
> people. I see that it doesn't provide jdk1.1-runtime, though, which jlex
> depends on, so you'll still need to create and install a third package
> for that.
Thanks for the explanation. I altered the java-virtual-machine-dummy to
provide jdk1.1-runtime also. I think I'll enter a bug report on the
dependency against either the dummy package or jlex.
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.2 Dual Boot
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 09:52:16 +0100
Tom Szczesniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Dec 2000 08:44:35 GMT, "Peter T. Breuer"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How do I step aside to another prompt? The cd gave me only the
Read the manual! You have at least 6 virtual consoles running during
the install, with different functionality on each of them.
> fdisk is dos, right? So should I have done this at a dos prompt?
No it isn't. No you shouldn't 'uv.
>>And you should have stepped aside to a command line prompt on another
>>console again.
alt-F[2-6]
> Getting my pci modem going (I found some of the areas to work in but
> no luck so far)
PCI "modems" are 99% of the time winmodem, not modems. They don't work
(in 95% of the cases) because there is no driver for them, by
definition. Check! Go to www.linmodems.org.
> Getting the Creative SB Live sound going.
Trivial. Load the driver. Run.
> Getting the HP9300 CD Writer going. One of the linux user group guys
Read the CD-Writing-HOWTO.
> My changes to add users don't show up at the log in screen
?? Edit /etc/passwd and run pwconv.
> When I first log in now. I can log in as root, but not as the first
> normal user I made for myself. I get an error message. It tells me
SOunds like a mandrake bug. Edit /etc/passswd yourself instead of
relying on some gui thing of mandrakes.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anita Lewis)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,at.linux,ger.pc.linux,linux.debian.qa,linux.debian.user
Subject: Re: which LINUX to choose
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 11:28:47 GMT
On Sun, 17 Dec 2000 21:12:59 -0800, Graham Wilson wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> I have a brand new 30GB desktop which came preinstalled with WinDoze ME.
>>
>> I want to setup a LINUX and a DOS/WinDoze partition. The availlable
>> Linux versions to me are
>> DEBIAN GNU/Linux 2.0
>> SuSE 6.4 Evaluationsversion
>> PC Magazin Linux 6.0 Easy Install Edition
>>
>> I do not want to create a "religious war" about Linux distributions but
>> would appreciate any input about recommendations on which of the above
>> mentioned versions I should pick.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> HP Staber/Salzburg
>
>Most of the advice you got so far is pretty good. I got Debian potato
>on 3 CDs from CheapBytes for about $10. If you are careful with the
>installation (i.e. read ALL the notes on the screen) everything should
>go smoothly. Go to the Linux Documentation Project for your
>informational needs, and get ready to start having "fun". Debian is a
>wonderful distribution, IMHO. G.
I had installed Debian 2.1 and there were lots of questions for which I
really did not know the answers. I just selected default. I was happy to
see in Debian 2.2 (It may have been in 2.1 and I missed it) that I could
choose to have it ask me only the critical questions. I did that and it
was much easier.
I remember having the problem with many of the packages not being installed
at first. I found this out when I installed a new package (joe as I recall)
and all these packages began to finish installing. It happened again when I
installed on another partition to upgrade to woody. I think doing
'apt-get --fix-broken' would have taken care of it too, but the installing
of the package did the same thing. It was like the install got short
circuited for some reason.
Anita
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Slow telnet and FTP with Redhat 7.0
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 11:15:37 GMT
Dear Redhat Guru,
Just installed Redhat 7.0 server and hit some problems on Telent and FTP
services.
Redhat 7.0 server and my Windows client are on the same LAN (no router)
with the same network/subnet. However, when telnet from client to
Redhat server, it takes about 5 minutes before the login prompt comes
back. Once login name and password are entered, it is fast.
Another problem is FTP client can NEVER connect to the Redhat server.
Error message is "connection closed by remote host" after more than 5
minutes.
These 2 problems do not happen when I use the Redhat 7.0 server's client
(i.e. do it on the same Linux box) to connect. Telnet and FTP come back
straight without delay.
The ftp config files are defaults.
My Windows web broswer can access the Redhat Apache server quick. It is
normal, but not the telnet and ftp services.
Have you seen these problems? Are there any config files not configured
properly for telnet and ftp daemons?
Thanks for your help in advance.
Regards,
Roger Luk
Sydney Australia
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need insights into Slackware setup....
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 08:15:57 +0100
Bob the old greybeard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On setting up the partitions, I use the entire disk, starting root
> at cylinder 0. Everything installs fine, but, when I get to the
Err, error. the first partition (which is what I think you mean)
does not start at cylinder zero and/or sector zero. Here's an E.G.
oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb/lang/java% sudo fdisk -l /dev/ide/disk/a/hda
Disk /dev/ide/disk/a/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 525 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/ide/disk/a/hda1 * 1 131 1052226 6 DOS 16-bit >=32M
/dev/ide/disk/a/hda2 132 393 2104515 83 Linux native
/dev/ide/disk/a/hda3 394 397 32130 82 Linux swap
/dev/ide/disk/a/hda4 398 525 1028160 5 Extended
/dev/ide/disk/a/hda5 398 401 32098+ 83 Linux native
/dev/ide/disk/a/hda6 402 405 32098+ 83 Linux native
...
If you prefer a sector count ...
oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb/lang/java% sudo sfdisk -l -uS /dev/ide/disk/a/hda
Disk /dev/ide/disk/a/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 525 cylinders
Units = sectors of 512 bytes, counting from 0
Device Boot Start End #sectors Id System
/dev/ide/disk/a/hda1 * 63 2104514 2104452 6 DOS 16-bit FAT >=32M
/dev/ide/disk/a/hda2 2104515 6313544 4209030 83 Linux native
/dev/ide/disk/a/hda3 6313545 6377804 64260 82 Linux swap
/dev/ide/disk/a/hda4 6377805 8434124 2056320 5 DOS Extended
/dev/ide/disk/a/hda5 6377868 6442064 64197 83 Linux native
...
The first cylinder is number zero. The first partition starts at sector
63 on it if it's a dos partition. A linux partition in that place would
probably need to start at sector 5 (from memory) but would
conventionally start from sector 63 too. Check the lilo docs.
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: error on 'make bzImage', please help!
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 08:18:04 +0100
Neil Guinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have Red Hat 7.0 installed on my computer. I'm trying to configure the
> kernel to put drivers for my network card. After selecting the necessary
> drivers, I did 'make dep' - success, 'make clean' - success, but the
> following are the errors(sniffet) returned by 'make bzImage';
Use the correct compiler? kgcc, not gcc (on redhat).
> make[2]: *** [ksyms.o] Error 1
What's the compile error that led to this report from make?
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Distribution for an old PC
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 21:46:01 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Where can I find a distribution suitable for a 386SX 16 MHz, 5 MB RAM
> and 80 MB hard disk?
In 1995, I think.
Your ram is unworkable for anything serious. A slackware 2.2 should be
suitable. I currently run some 486SX50s with 8MB ram and 80MB disk under
slackware 3.0. I do have an old 386Sx16 with 3MB ram and 20MB disk that
I run as a teminal from time to time. That's just got a stripped down
distro in 4MB of disk space (including 1MB swap!). It includes
networking and getty's, shells and editors. I.e., do it yourself.
It should take you all of half an hour to get things up and running.
Peter
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From: "Beavis Christ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape 6 for linux
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 05:54:22 -0600
I'll do you one better than that.
I installed 6, and the system hardlocked...(granted I'm using a 2.4 kernel,
but it something I couldn't avoid..)..anyway, X will not restart, and the
system hardlocks when I try and restart X.
(this is on a redhat 7 using the 2.4 source that came with....but it seems
they didn't use standard naming conventions on the source pkg.)
Anyway, I remember reading something about this in the Corel threads, (I
also have a Corel machine), I'll keep digging and see what I find
though....(but if someone has the answer in the meantime, I'd appreciate it.
"James Richard Tyrer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Hi to all,
> >
> > Does anybody has a clue, why after installation of netscape 6 with SuSe
> > 7.0 I get the following error-message when I try to run it:
> >
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From: "Beavis Christ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel Panic, Please Help...I am Panicking Too
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 06:05:38 -0600
Yeah Eric, but you're assuming he remembered to save his old kernel.
In other words, if he can't get booted, how can he look at the man pages?
"Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Have you heard of manpages?
> I never used rdev before, but I figure everything you need is in the
> manpages
>
> man rdev
>
>
> (I checked there, and found: rdev -h for examples)
>
> Eric
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From: "Beavis Christ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: winmodem
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 06:19:00 -0600
You know what's funny, Gary....
...when I said that SOMEONE would write a winmodem driver, (when they first
game out, under my old email of [EMAIL PROTECTED]), they all said I was nuts
and nobody would waste their time on it.
It's always nice to feel vindicated.
;-)
"Gary L. Dolan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:79GZ5.973$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I often see in this newsgroup that when someone asks about using a
winmodem
> with linux, he/she is advised it cannot be done, get a real modem, or only
one
> type of chipset is usable. Altho it might be smart to get a real modem,
this
> advice is not accurate. Let's direct them to www.linmodems.org or to the
> Linmodem-HOWTO for real information.
>
>
> --
> Gary Dolan
> Debian GNU/Linux, Kernel 2.4.0-test12
> FreeBSD 4.2
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From: "Beavis Christ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Okay, now that I've got my system finally installed. Build Question.
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 06:16:51 -0600
So that I don't have to go thru the hassle of installing an old version of
Linux that does support the bp6/HPT366. (Gentus/RH6.2), what FAQ's would one
suggest I read in regards to building an installation distro, so that I
don't have to go thru the headaches of putting a patchwork system together,
and then installing on top of it?
(I know, I know..."Shouldn't be a problem if you watch your dependancies
closely"...)..but in the unlikely event I just want to reinstall everything,
I want to know I can do it without having to go thru all that time and
hassle.
I know linuxfromscratch.org is a good place to start, but what I want to do,
is compile a kernel, make an RPM of that, then take the various RPM's or
Deb's and things that I want on my system, and make the install that way.
(so I can avoid having to download all that source, as I'm in a remote area,
and it would take weeks to download all that source code.)....hell just an
iso takes me about 4 days straight, and that's if I don't have to use the
phone. ;-)
(I'm not bitching here...hehe, I'm just voicing my concerns....I knew Linux
was going to be a little work when I decided to start playing with it 4
years ago, but I only played with it out of novelty, and now Linux and I
have matured to the point where it's time to get serious about it.)
Any information would be greatly appreciated.
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From: Jeanice Albertoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Rage Fury Maxx 64MB
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 13:29:59 -0800
Does Mandrake 7.2 support Rage Fury Maxx 64Mb ?
Thanx.
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From: Richard Storey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can you install Corel 2 over Mandrake 7.2 ?
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 12:47:54 GMT
Don Hinds wrote:
> I've installed MAndrake 7.2 but so far cannot get it to work with my AMD
> K6 3D processor (shares video RAM with the system).
>
> If Mandrake doesn't have an anwers, can I install Corel over Mandrake or
> do I
> have to remove Mandrake first? (assuming Corel supports my CPU).
>
> thanks
> Don
You should totally remove the old distro first.
Sharing RAM with an onboard video system is not a problem as it is handled
by your BIOS and Linux will pick that up when it boots up.
I've used Corel before (I use Mandrake 7.2 now & I have a shared RAM/video
situation too) and it does a great job of getting everything configured
automatically. Corel has done some great work putting together their
distro. However, as has been mentioned, Corel is getting out of Linux and
Mandrake 7.2 is, actually, a better distro than Corel. Your problems can
probably be solved under Mandrake.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel Panic, Please Help...I am Panicking Too
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 13:31:02 +0100
Beavis Christ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah Eric, but you're assuming he remembered to save his old kernel.
> In other words, if he can't get booted, how can he look at the man pages?
Use the web, or read his install cd, or boot from his install cd. And
if he's forgotten how to turn on his computer ...
Peter
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Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 13:54:10 +0100
From: JanJaap van Benthem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: S3trio3D problem with Suse 7.0 (system hangs)
I've installed suse 7.0 (default installation) on a IBM Pc 300GL.
The graphical adapter is a S3 trio 3D (on the motherboard).
When installing Linux the system hangs after cd nr 4.
Contr. alt backspace or contr.alt delete does not work.
System must be powered off en rebooted.
The suse installation program continues with resolution option. I have
chosen 1024x786 (17 " monitor). The system installation is at his end
and the system seeems too work good, however when choosing shutdown at
the welcome screen en choosing restart the X server the system hangs.
Restarting the X server with control alt backspace works properly.
Anyone can help me ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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