Linux-Setup Digest #255, Volume #20 Tue, 19 Dec 00 22:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: winmodem (srinivas_vanjari)
Re: windows VFAT partitions too fat?! (Gill)
Re: Windows-ME dual boot ("PsYcHo CiRcUs")
setting up LPRng (Richard Kimber)
Please help with LILO mess in Mandrake 7.2 ("Peter S.")
Settiong up RH6.2 for Crash dump analysis. (Mike Lee)
Re: Please help with LILO mess in Mandrake 7.2 (olgnuby)
Re: /dev/hda this!!! (Bill Unruh)
Re: Question about KDE2 ("theFrog")
Re: Can you install Corel 2 over Mandrake 7.2 ? (Michel Catudal)
Re: another winmodem question (Tilak Balu)
Re: playing MP3's with linux (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?=)
Re: setting up LPRng (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?=)
Re: Dual boot help needed. ("Schuylar Marshall")
Re: setting up LPRng (Mark Post)
Re: Hello, I am currently running Corel linux and I am quite happy with it.
However, I have heard about how Corel may dump their distribution in the near
future. In addition, their progress has been slower than Debian. What I like most
about the Corel distribution is the package manager. I really like how dependencies
are handled automatically (through a nice GUI interface). I tried Red Hat and
Mandrake, but their package managers didn't seem to do this (maybe I just gave up on
the (Michael Perry)
Re: Gnome Control Panel (Michael Perry)
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From: srinivas_vanjari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: winmodem
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 00:03:59 GMT
Hi,
I tried to search for k56flex V90 data/fax modem to find out if it is
supported. Is there anyway to find out the name of the chipset so that
i can see whether it is supported or not ?
Thanks for your time,
--
regards,
srinivas_vanjari,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Gill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: windows VFAT partitions too fat?!
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 02:19:00 +0200
Eric wrote:
> It's really not that difficult. Just need to know the basic rule :
>
> Beware when using multiple OS's
>
Alas, I am using an archaic biblical right-to-left language for my every day
life, so I have no real choice...
> BTW. you can use linux' fdisk just fine for all your partitioning. You
> should know what
> you're doing though. Creating an LBA extended(0x0F) with linux' fdisk is
> really easy.
>
You are right of course on the subject matter but allow me to push it
towards a bigger point - I *knew* i was heading for trouble when i aimed to
install both systems together and still after major scrutiny i could not get
one coherent document to guide me through the process. no (mini) HOWTO,
nothing.
the painful facts (from the bios down to the fact that there are more than one
type of ext'd partitions) were learned the hard way.
inevitably, some fables also stuck along without (e.g. the 4GB win thing).
I hope somebody someday will write that doc up...
> Eric
>
-Gill
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From: "PsYcHo CiRcUs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows-ME dual boot
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 00:30:46 GMT
Millenium will boot as normal with LILO install. But LILO doesn't come up at
all.
I got a boot/partition manager and that allows me to choose either Linux or
Millenium
"Jim Bean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> hi listers,
> I have a new Dell machine that runs windows-ME. My previous machine,
> trashed sigh, ran windows-98 and RH 6.0 on a second disk, dual booted of
> course. The primary disk was FAT16.
>
> I put the second disk into the new machine and tried to re-install
> Linux on it. The result of loading LILO into the MBR was an unbootable
> system, which would say ME is like NT.
>
> The software guru at RH says that windows-ME is essentially windows-98.
> The microsoft website says its a version of windows-2000.
>
> Sooo is there a newer LILO that is safe to put on windows-ME or are the
> NT type solutions required? BTW the how-to's are hopelessly out of date
> on this.
> TIA Jim Bean
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From: Richard Kimber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: setting up LPRng
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 00:34:24 +0000
I'm setting up LPRng and have made some progress, but I'm obviously doing
something wrong. when I try to print (lpr filename) I get
cannot open '/dev/lp0' - 'Permission denied'
from lpq
I have
crw-rw---- 1 root lp 6, 0 Sep 27 11:31 /dev/lp0
should it be something else?
- Richard.
--
Richard Kimber
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.psr.keele.ac.uk
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From: "Peter S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Please help with LILO mess in Mandrake 7.2
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 01:12:38 GMT
For three straight linux installs (RedHat 6.1, 6.2, mandrake 7.1) I had no
problem with LILO loading linux. I have BootMagic in the MBR dual booting
Windows and linux. Now with Mandrake 7.2 something awful is happening to a
lot of people not being able to load linux with neither grub nor lilo. I
tried 7.2 installes in every conceivable mode (rec.,customize, expert) and
the result is always the same: the lilo (or grub) dialog pops up prompting
for an O.S. to load and when I select and <Enter> nothing happens. This
behavior is different from previous versions. previously I selected linux in
BootMagic and linus loaded, lilo having been in the first boot sector of
linux partition. Now I dialog is again asking what to load instead of
loading the blasted thing. Something is obviously different, changed and
that difference was not communicated to people who designed the
configuration and for sure not the users.
I'm asking someone with deeper knowledge to hop over to
alt.os.linux.mandrake and help us to sort out this mess with LM 7.2 that
many of us have with LILO/GRUB.
Thanks,
Peter
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From: Mike Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Settiong up RH6.2 for Crash dump analysis.
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 14:59:00 -0800
Hello:
I would like to setup a few RH6.2 boxes to save any crash information. In
Solaris one can enable crash dumps (to /var/crash) and/or use the savecore
command to dump it to a file. After which you can anaylze the dumps with
adb/kdb and other tools to determine the system's instructions leading up to the
crash.
I cannot seem to find any similar command or configuration in linux. I have
searched and read many documents, but have not found an answer. The closest I
have come was to find a crash dump analysis kit at:
http:://www.missioncriticallinux.com/technology/crash/
This requires recompiling the kernel with a core dump patch.
I am looking for a way to generate crash dumps without patching and recompiling
the kernel.. If anyone knows how to do this, could you please post/email me
instructions or point me to some documentation describing the procedure.
Thanks in advance,
Mike Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Systems Admin Homegain.com
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From: olgnuby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Please help with LILO mess in Mandrake 7.2
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 01:30:14 GMT
I'd always used PQ Boot Magic with LILO in the first boot sector of the
Linux partition.
But it don't work so good with Mandrake 7.2. So I've just resigned to
using Mandrake's boot loader installed in my MBR of the first disk. Not
as pretty as PQ, but it does a good job for me and picks up all the
other bootable OS that I have.
The depth of the thing is beyond my feeble knowledge, but I do know that
when I look at a partition that Mandrake sets up with Linux fdisk, the
identity of the partition is (85) it think, and different from an
ordinary ext2 partition set up with RH, Deb. or COL.
olgnuby
"Peter S." wrote:
>
> For three straight linux installs (RedHat 6.1, 6.2, mandrake 7.1) I had no
> problem with LILO loading linux. I have BootMagic in the MBR dual booting
> Windows and linux. Now with Mandrake 7.2 something awful is happening to a
> lot of people not being able to load linux with neither grub nor lilo.
> Thanks,
>
> Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: /dev/hda this!!!
Date: 20 Dec 2000 01:56:19 GMT
In <91okac$j14$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> jay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
]I have 3 drives. Each of them has about 5 partitions on there.
]So in my /etc/fstab I have
]/dev/hda1 <more junk here>
]/dev/hda2
]/dev/hdb5
]/dev/hdc3
]/dev/hdc5
]etc
]etc
]Without the contents of my /etc/fstab I cannot remember what drive has
So, print out /etc/fstab and paste them on the wall over your computer.
fdisk (or partition magic) will tell you what kind of partitions they
are.
fdisk /dev/hda
p
will print out the partition table and the ID (83=ext2, 82=Linux swap,
7=HPFS, 6=FAT16 a=OS2 Boot manager,...)
logical partitions are numbered from 5-... primary from 1 to 4.
]which partitions and which number is which? Is there some tool I can
]run (Windows or Linux). That will tell me what drives I have, what
]partitions each of the drives has, and what is the format type of each
]logical drive? Thanks.
]Sent via Deja.com
]http://www.deja.com/
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From: "theFrog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Question about KDE2
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 02:08:59 GMT
I found the easiest thing to do to get KDE2 going, is when you install RH
7.0 select Gnome as your desktop environment. Then open up the File Manager
and double click the KDE2 rpms. Do not force anything! The first thing you
should do is install htdig, then install QT. Then install the KDE2 files.
When there are no dependencies you are installing it in the correct order.
It should also let you know what files are dependent upon each other and you
can work your way up the ladder. OR you could read the correct order to
install the files on http://www.kde.org.
"David Liana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I just bought Red Hat 7.0 and would like to upgrade to KDE 2.0.1. I
> downloaded all the files from their ftp server for it... Just have a
> few questions:
>
> 1. It complains about dependencies.. how do i fix?
>
> 2. I force the install, and some of the menu icons are bigger than the
> others. How do i fix it?
>
> 3. KDE is the default desktop on my system. How do i fix the login
> screen because it looks messed up? (some of the graphics arent there)
>
> Dave
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Can you install Corel 2 over Mandrake 7.2 ?
Date: 19 Dec 2000 20:10:08 -0600
Don Hinds a �crit :
>
> I'm sure my shared video is the problem. It installed all the way through just
> fine, and it boots into the gui, but then the video gets messed up.
>
Change it to boot on the console instead and check the log when you do startx to get
into
the GUI. This seems like an X problem setup and not a Linux problem.
If you want to get a distribution that works you may want to try SuSE 7.0 professional.
--
Tired of Microsoft's rebootive multitasking?
then it's time to upgrade to Linux.
http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat
We hava all all kinds of links
and many SuSE 7.0 Linux RPM packages
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From: Tilak Balu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: another winmodem question
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 21:28:56 -0500
Can somebody tell me what chipset HSP Micromodem 56K uses? I'm guessing
PCTel. Am I right?
Tilak
E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I think you are out of luck. This winmodem is neither using the lucent or
> PCtel chip set which is usable under linux.
> I would email or write to the winmodem chip manufacturer to release the
chip
> specifications, or binary libraries so at least someone can program for
it,
>
> Simon Harvey wrote:
>
> > I have a "56K PCI Voice Modem SF-1156IV+ R9A" modem installed;
manufactured
> > by Conexant although I can find no ref to it on their website; anyone
else
> > using this modem with Linux or as a Winmodem is it definitely a no go
for
> > Linux? I tried the two sites suggested previously and got a bit bogged
> > down...
> > Any help gratefully received,
> > Regards (oh and merry christmas)
> > SH
>
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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: playing MP3's with linux
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 03:00:59 +0100
On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, R. Gerrits wrote:
> I want to use a old computer to play my MP3's.
>
> What is the minimum requirement to play mp3's with linux, and which
> (console)player is the best???
With mpg123 (console based) you should be able to use a 100MHz 486. With
downsampling even 66MHz. But I never confirmed that myself.
With xmms (graphical), the requirements are probably a little more...
--
Rasmus B�g Hansen
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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: setting up LPRng
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 03:03:45 +0100
On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Richard Kimber wrote:
> I'm setting up LPRng and have made some progress, but I'm obviously doing
> something wrong. when I try to print (lpr filename) I get
> cannot open '/dev/lp0' - 'Permission denied'
> from lpq
> I have
> crw-rw---- 1 root lp 6, 0 Sep 27 11:31 /dev/lp0
> should it be something else?
Is lpd running? It must be running first - and you need networking up (you
need the 'lo' pseudo-device for the local loopback interface).
--
Rasmus B�g Hansen
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From: "Schuylar Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual boot help needed.
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 19:34:59 -0700
Try installing SuSE then use YaST to set Lilo up in the MBR.Very easy and I
actually advise that.
You can also load SuSE up through Windows Menu system and. Read that section
in the SuSE installation book. Can't remember offhand, but instructions are
fairly straightforward.
Partitioning is a personal preference and since I have two harddrives, 1 for
Win and 1 for Linux, I use lilo in the MBR and decide at boottime which to
load, although I use Windows for only one thing--DvD.
Hope this helps.Sky
"Michael Radocha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi, me again,
> I think I may have found a somewhat easy solution to my problem by the
> means of Partition Commander 6.0 It is around 40 bucks and from the
> reviews I've gathered, it seems to work a little better than Partition
> Magic. I will still watch for an answer but will try this too and submit a
> reply soon.
>
> ~The only thing we have to fear is a furby loose in your house.
> F.J.Weezelsneeze 1943
>
>
> Michael Radocha wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > I am currently running WinMe on my machine and I want to add SuSE Linux
> > 7.0 I need to know the correct and simple way to dual boot/partition my
> > hard drive so I can comfortably use both Lin & Win. I have tried a
> product
> > called BootIt, but it's more for people who have several OS on their
> > machine. (I always seem to have someone suggest BootIt but I really
> don't
> > like it so don't bother). Partition magic for WinMe is too $$$. I'm
> using
> > a 533Mhz Athlon processor, a 13 gig Western Digital EIDE hard drive and
> > 196 Mb of ram. I have used Linux before and am familiar with Lilo and
> > basicially getting Linux up and running, I actually dualbooted before,
> but
> > with much trouble and reading. But I have recently run into the same
> > trouble again with partitioning. I just can't seem to break everything
> > down properly. The 1023 cylinder thing always stumps me. The SuSE hand
> > book was and is not exactly the easiest thing to understand. But I like
> > SuSE the best, although Red Hat 7.0 seems pretty good, so far. I also am
> > not a linux expert (obviously) so I need a *simple* way to do this. I
> just
> > plan to go online and listen to some tunes, nothing major here. I would
> > love and have yet to see a step by step example on how to partition a
> > Lin/Win box. Are there any sites out there that anyone can recommend to
> > do this? Any help would be greatly appriciated. Thanks in advance. ~m
> >
> > DID YOU KNOW?~~ Butterball recalled over 3 million of their turkeys this
> > past thanksgiving. Someone forgot to butter their balls.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Posted via CNET Help.com
> > http://www.help.com/
>
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Post)
Subject: Re: setting up LPRng
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 02:46:12 GMT
On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 00:34:24 +0000, Richard Kimber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I'm setting up LPRng and have made some progress, but I'm obviously doing
>something wrong. when I try to print (lpr filename) I get
> cannot open '/dev/lp0' - 'Permission denied'
>from lpq
>I have
>crw-rw---- 1 root lp 6, 0 Sep 27 11:31 /dev/lp0
>should it be something else?
Mine looks about the same:
ls -l /dev/lp0
crw-rw---- 1 root daemon 6, 0 Apr 27 1995 /dev/lp0
Mark Post
Postmodern Consulting
Information Technology and Systems Management Consulting
To send me email, replace 'nospam' with 'home'.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: Hello, I am currently running Corel linux and I am quite happy with
it. However, I have heard about how Corel may dump their distribution in the near
future. In addition, their progress has been slower than Debian. What I like most
about the Corel distribution is the package manager. I really like how dependencies
are handled automatically (through a nice GUI interface). I tried Red Hat and
Mandrake, but their package managers didn't seem to do this (maybe I just gave up on
the
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 18:51:54 -0800
On Tue, 19 Dec 2000 16:53:11 -0800, Ivan Milos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
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>Hello,
>
>I am currently running Corel linux and I am quite happy with it.
>However, I have heard about how Corel may dump their distribution in the
>
>near future. In addition, their progress has been slower than Debian.
>What I like most about the Corel distribution is the package manager. I
>
>really like how dependencies are handled automatically (through a nice
>GUI interface). I tried Red Hat and Mandrake, but their package
>managers didn't seem to do this (maybe I just gave up on them too
>fast). In addition, they both locked up my system several times. Maybe
>
>recompiling the kernel would have helped this. Anyway, I am thinking
>about moving to Debian. However, I was wondering if it is much trouble
>getting KDE2 running on Debian. If so, could somebody suggest another
>distribution based on Debian.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Ivan Milos
>
>--
Hi Ivan-
I would consider trying Storm Linux (www.stormix.com) if you want a debian
install with nice configuration tools, etc. OTOH, I use plain old debian
potato here with some unstable stuff thrown in and I like it. KDE2 is
available by simply apt-getting a task metapackage for kde I believe. I
don't use gnome or kde anymore. Check out the debian packages lists off off
www.debian.org.
--
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: Gnome Control Panel
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 18:55:14 -0800
On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 23:50:10 GMT, Richard Storey
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've just started learning to use Gnome. Been using KDE and find it slow
>sometimes. Thought Gnome seemed to respond a little faster on my pc.
>
>I can't find the following in the user's manual or in the control panel:
>
>I've got the panel at the bottom of the screen and set it to auto-hide for
>more screen area. When I move them mouse to the bottom of the screen it
>pops up again but does so behind the app that's running so that I must
>shrink the window of the app I'm in to view the panel. Surely it can work
>by poping up over the current app's window--right?
>
>How to?
>
>Thanx
>
If I remember arightly, there are some advanced configuration items for the
panel available that will allow it to be in front. Check out the panel
global configuration options or the configuration options for the panel you
are using. I have not used gnome in some time but I did mess with helixcode
for awhile and it seems its possible.
--
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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